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Hi everyone,
I recently purchased an unlocked T-Mobile version of the HD2 and am using it on AT&T.
I had a couple of questions:
1) The phone is registered as a blackberry 7290 so will I be required to get the data plan?
2) Is there any way to avoid the data plan while still using the phone? This really is a deal breaker for me since I don't want to shell out 30 bucks to AT&T. I don't need a data plan but if I would have to get it, I wouldn't use the phone and go back to my old flip phone.
Have any of you guys had any success in avoiding the data plan?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
P.S. I really don't care much for the data features or the social networking. Mainly wanted this phone for the beautiful screen and the great camera.
Call them up and tell them you changed phones and want the data plan dropped. Give them the IMEI of a dumbphone when they ask for it (Google for one if you have to.. people give them away on message boards all the time when they want to unlock their phones). Ask them to drop your data plan and add a data block on the line so you don't get billed for WinMo accessing the network on your behalf. From there, you're set.
I've done this and I can get away with AT&T's $10 data plan. I still get full 3G service.
I'll try that tomorrow. That sounds much better. I didn't tell them I have a smartphone obviously. But I did ask them if they can do such a block but they said that its dualband so their system registers it as a sort of "smartphone". Did your AT&T rep tell you that?
On a side note, isn't there a way for them to verify the IMEI? I mean I can give them my IMEI for an old Nokia Phone, but wouldn't they know that isn't the case since they can see the HD2 IMEI?
Thanks for the reply!
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I'll try that tomorrow. That sounds much better. I didn't tell them I have a smartphone obviously. But I did ask them if they can do such a block but they said that its dualband so their system registers it as a sort of "smartphone". Did your AT&T rep tell you that?
On a side note, isn't there a way for them to verify the IMEI? I mean I can give them my IMEI for an old Nokia Phone, but wouldn't they know that isn't the case since they can see the HD2 IMEI?
Thanks for the reply!
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No they didn't tell me that. Call and try again because that CS rep is an idiot or trying to get you some data charges.
At present they can't verify the IMEIs, not over the phone at least.
ATT royally screwed me, they said I had a black berry, I told them I did not. They said if I used any "smart phone" off contract I had to pay for data.
They forced me onto a black berry plan, and told me I had to take my phone to the store and prove it was not a black berry, and if it was in fact a smart phone they would "back" bill me
So then I asked to block the data plan, since I am off contract, they told me that they could not do it, so I told them I was changing carriers.
I will just sell my HD2 and be done with att, go to verizon and hope for better service.
I have been an ATT customer for over 8 years
friend'scatdied said:
No they didn't tell me that. Call and try again because that CS rep is an idiot or trying to get you some data charges.
At present they can't verify the IMEIs, not over the phone at least.
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The AT&T system does a scan every so often and updates the IMEI that is being used with the sim, that is how they can tell what phone you are using, The system can can only recognize ATT phones that is why it sees it as an old BB.
zelendel said:
The AT&T system does a scan every so often and updates the IMEI that is being used with the sim, that is how they can tell what phone you are using, The system can can only recognize ATT phones that is why it sees it as an old BB.
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Yes, my OLAM shows that I have a BlackBerry Bold 9700. Yet I am on $30 unlimited data/text for dumbphones since they have a different IMEI on file. AFAIK the only IMEIs AT&T can recognize ATM besides their own is that of HTC Google Nexus Ones of the T-Mobile variety.
I'll call today and see what they will do. AT&T sucks though and their CS in my experience are jerks soooo...yeah.
Thanks for all the help you guys.
@friend'scatdied: Are you using the Australian version to get AT&T 3G? aren't those different and perhaps totally unrecognizable by AT&T?
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@friend'scatdied: Are you using the Australian version to get AT&T 3G? aren't those different and perhaps totally unrecognizable by AT&T?
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Yeah, I'm using the Australian Telstra T9193 version. It's more complicated than that but suffice to say I will be among the last to be caught by them, if ever.
Called in today but it looks like they want proof of the phone since their system reads my phone as different. The CS was very polite but said there is nothing she could do since the system automatically scans for IMEI and the scan will change it to the BB 7290...guess I can't really keep the phone then without the lame data plan
Oh well thanks for all the help you guys, I guess I'm doomed to mediocre phones until I find one that I like which won't require a ridiculously expensive data-plan.
[email protected] said:
Called in today but it looks like they want proof of the phone since their system reads my phone as different. The CS was very polite but said there is nothing she could do since the system automatically scans for IMEI and the scan will change it to the BB 7290...guess I can't really keep the phone then without the lame data plan
Oh well thanks for all the help you guys, I guess I'm doomed to mediocre phones until I find one that I like which won't require a ridiculously expensive data-plan.
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That's just plain stupid. I never get abysmal customer service like that though I am on a FAN plan (so I get Premier Business CS). There should be no reason for them to disallow you from downgrading or removing your data plan.
Its just AT&T wanting to mooch off people. Its ok...I guess I can still use the HD2 as a super duper expensive PDA with a lot of cool features and a *****in' camera right?
[email protected] said:
Called in today but it looks like they want proof of the phone since their system reads my phone as different. The CS was very polite but said there is nothing she could do since the system automatically scans for IMEI and the scan will change it to the BB 7290...guess I can't really keep the phone then without the lame data plan
Oh well thanks for all the help you guys, I guess I'm doomed to mediocre phones until I find one that I like which won't require a ridiculously expensive data-plan.
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Yeah its a major downer considering that the HD2 is on edge only and has very few apps that pull much data.
Its reason enough for me to sell mine, I can't use tmobile as they dont have service where I live, so verizon here I come!
digitallysick said:
ATT royally screwed me, they said I had a black berry, I told them I did not. They said if I used any "smart phone" off contract I had to pay for data.
They forced me onto a black berry plan, and told me I had to take my phone to the store and prove it was not a black berry, and if it was in fact a smart phone they would "back" bill me
So then I asked to block the data plan, since I am off contract, they told me that they could not do it, so I told them I was changing carriers.
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That is absolute crap. I can understand requiring a data plan if they subsidize a smart phone, but if you are off contract and bring your own phone there is absolutely no reason they should do this. If I were you I would file a complaint with the FCC.
BAMF said:
That is absolute crap. I can understand requiring a data plan if they subsidize a smart phone, but if you are off contract and bring your own phone there is absolutely no reason they should do this. If I were you I would file a complaint with the FCC.
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Or go through retentions. I understand their retentions department wouldn't try to pull moves like this.
I was in the EXACT same predicament, att tried making me get the mandatory data plan which in fact I kicked and screamed about..What I found out is, that once you unlock the phone it doesnt register to att, basically it reads as the same phone you had currently registered with att. You WONT be required to but you will have wifi
chochard said:
I was in the EXACT same predicament, att tried making me get the mandatory data plan which in fact I kicked and screamed about..What I found out is, that once you unlock the phone it doesnt register to att, basically it reads as the same phone you had currently registered with att. You WONT be required to but you will have wifi
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Really? Do explain more please..
[email protected] said:
Hi everyone,
I recently purchased an unlocked T-Mobile version of the HD2 and am using it on AT&T.
I had a couple of questions:
1) The phone is registered as a blackberry 7290 so will I be required to get the data plan?
2) Is there any way to avoid the data plan while still using the phone? This really is a deal breaker for me since I don't want to shell out 30 bucks to AT&T. I don't need a data plan but if I would have to get it, I wouldn't use the phone and go back to my old flip phone.
Have any of you guys had any success in avoiding the data plan?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
P.S. I really don't care much for the data features or the social networking. Mainly wanted this phone for the beautiful screen and the great camera.
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I'm paying $15 / 200MB data plan with att. I once had no data plan, pay per use. I might just switch to tmo.
Just curious, if i install a custom rom on my hd2 do i still have to unlock it to use it on at&t?
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chip0 said:
Just curious, if i install a custom rom on my hd2 do i still have to unlock it to use it on at&t?
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yea you do, the ROMs don't unlock the device.
I really want to get one of these G2 phones. Att's phones are horrible and their service is going down hill as well.
THe only problem is their coverage in my area is far superior to TMO.
When the G2 is able to be unlocked how would popping a prepaid sim card in the G2 work?
Would the G2 all of a sudden be able to use all of the ATT network with only limitation being edge only? Or would I have to configure the phone to use ATTs data and or voice?
I'd like to just tape the pre-paid sim to the inside battery case and pop it in when needed, but if it's time consuming to make the swap I might reconsider.
I don't think the G2 supports AT&T's 3G bands, so while it will work you won't have any fast data. Why not just get an iPhone4? Granted it has iOS, but the hardware is better than anything Android. Having said that I still bought a G2 because I hate AT&T.
krayshunist said:
I don't think the G2 supports AT&T's 3G bands, so while it will work you won't have any fast data. Why not just get an iPhone4? Granted it has iOS, but the hardware is better than anything Android. Having said that I still bought a G2 because I hate AT&T.
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Thanks. I'm aware that I won't have 3G- that's not a problem since I'll only use the ATT sim card when I leave the city- not much.
That's why I ask if it's as simple as popping in the ATT sim card and being able to get SMS/MMS/Data etc without having to change a bunch of settings?
I'd just forward my TMO number to the ATT sim.
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I'd just forward my TMO number to the ATT sim.
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By this, I take it you mean to pay for 2 accounts? The only way you will have a TMo number is if you have service with them.
As for the settings, you could probably do it with an ATT sim if the radio bands overlap. As others have mentioned, you'll be limited to edge speeds at best, so it's probably a real bad idea.
Honestly, AT&T's network is pretty bad these days. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's better than Tmo.
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By this, I take it you mean to pay for 2 accounts? The only way you will have a TMo number is if you have service with them.
As for the settings, you could probably do it with an ATT sim if the radio bands overlap. As others have mentioned, you'll be limited to edge speeds at best, so it's probably a real bad idea.
Honestly, AT&T's network is pretty bad these days. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's better than Tmo.
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When I leave town i hit edge speeds on ATT anyways so what's the diff??
I would have a primary TMO line and a pre-paid ATT sim with access to data for when I hit the few spots that TMO doesn't cover.
I simply want to know if you have to mess with data settings to get data while switching between phones.
Once you swap SIM cards the phone should pick up the network automatically, but is it really worth it to swap sim cards (which includes shutting the phone down, removing battery, replacing card, putting battery back in, starting up phone, as I'm sure you know) just to get service out in the middle of nowhere? I mean I understand the need to be always connected, but is it really worth it?
No you don't have to do any switching. Just initial setup. You have to acquire an unlock code from t-mobile so your ATT sim works on it. Once you do that you can do voice calls. You need to add the APN for ATT in the network settings.
The APN which stands for Access Point Name is basically a collection of settings and variables to allow the phone to connect to the data network.
Since the G2 will already have the T-Mobile settings you just need to get the settings for ATT from ATT, unless you google it.
Hope i helped.
elmejor183 said:
No you don't have to do any switching.
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Just so nobody gets confused. Of course you have to switch the sim card, but apart from that nothing else.
LOOK AT THE SIGNATURE LINE! YA BABY!
I plan on using the att card when I know ill be in a remote area without TMO voice or data for extended periods. Long drive, the beach, the mountain, camping etc. I wouldnt switch in a situation that only warranted the need to do a quick switch.
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elmejor183 said:
No you don't have to do any switching. Just initial setup. You have to acquire an unlock code from t-mobile so your ATT sim works on it. Once you do that you can do voice calls. You need to add the APN for ATT in the network settings.
The APN which stands for Access Point Name is basically a collection of settings and variables to allow the phone to connect to the data network.
Since the G2 will already have the T-Mobile settings you just need to get the settings for ATT from ATT, unless you google it.
Hope i helped.
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Must have missed your post. Yes you answered my question. Thanks!
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Another question on this issue-
When I know I'll be out of TMO range for day or whatever and I forward my TMO number to my prepaid ATT sim card will txt/mms sent to the TMO number forward over to the ATT number??
If anyone needs a G2 unlocked. Hit me up I can get it done for you.
Thanks
Unlock me!
rhcp0112345 said:
If anyone needs a G2 unlocked. Hit me up I can get it done for you.
Thanks
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Already got mine unlock, but the cell won't pick up or register to any network something really wrong with this phone. Now I can't use my phone even with T-Mo sim. A lot of user oversea suffer from this issue, Bewarn.
bluemoko said:
Already got mine unlock, but the cell won't pick up or register to any network something really wrong with this phone. Now I can't use my phone even with T-Mo sim. A lot of user oversea suffer from this issue, Bewarn.
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Sounds like BS. How did you even unlock it? You may have had someone hack it up or bought it unlocked.
rhcp0112345 said:
If anyone needs a G2 unlocked. Hit me up I can get it done for you.
Thanks
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FYI- just like I pm'd you-
I just called T-MOBLIE and they are sending an unlock code within 24 hours.
Why would anyone pay 40.00? I guess you could call it the penalty fee for not using a search button. LOL
This is confirmed as I am using it right now. Got solid H+ with speeds of 7.5 down and 1.5 up. The only thing that I wonder now is if we should call at&t and provide them with the new IMEI. Hot spot feature works right out of the box as I was able to tethered my ASUS Transformer. This phone is a dream come true. 10 out of 10 folks.
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calin75 said:
.. The only thing that I wonder now is if we should call at&t and provide them with the new IMEI.
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I am missing some point here. WHY OH WHY do you feel you need to give ATT your IMEI? They do not care about your IMEI first, and second, they see your IMEI since you are on their network I think.
Thanks for the good news!
It does support 850.
Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13466935&postcount=482
calin75 said:
This is confirmed as I am using it right now. Got solid H+ with speeds of 7.5 down and 1.5 up. The only thing that I wonder now is if we should call at&t and provide them with the new IMEI. Hot spot feature works right out of the box as I was able to tethered my ASUS Transformer. This phone is a dream come true. 10 out of 10 folks.
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You don't need to supply them with anything, they don't need your IMEI for anything.
As to tethering, I believe AT&T actually monitors traffic to check if you are using tethering without some kind of special tethering plan, and will send you an SMS to tell you to get one. At least, that's what a USA friend told me.
Luckily no other country is crazy enough to do that...
Great news! Wonder if that's what the announcement will be tomorrow. May I ask where you ordered from and final price?
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The only thing that I wonder now is if we should call at&t and provide them with the new IMEI.
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You don't need to tell them anything. If anything, what you should do is put your SIM in some dumb phone, call them and say you don't need a smartphone plan (if you already are on smartphone plan like me $25 for 2GB data) and want $15 unlimited data plan.
They will ask for IMEI of you dumb phone and model and change your plan. After you hang up, take out the SIM from the dumb phone and enjoy it in S2 with your new $15 unlimited data plan. They will catch you only and when they get S2 on their network and it could be few months before that happens.
Holly Sxxx
Thanks Man, I order mine right after your post, and will get deliver tomorrow (FEDEX Tracking) cause it was before 4:00 PM in GB at that time
Catch you? No they want. International sgs2 will never be in there imei database. Once they carry the sgs2 they still will think your using a dumbphone. Just don't tell them.
Also does the sgs2 work with 4g. The op mentioned H+ working speeds.
kitsVA said:
You don't need to tell them anything. If anything, what you should do is put your SIM in some dumb phone, call them and say you don't need a smartphone plan (if you already are on smartphone plan like me $25 for 2GB data) and want $15 unlimited data plan.
They will ask for IMEI of you dumb phone and model and change your plan. After you hang up, take out the SIM from the dumb phone and enjoy it in S2 with your new $15 unlimited data plan. They will catch you only and when they get S2 on their network and it could be few months before that happens.
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Great news. my phone should be here tommorw after a Delay from fedex . I will be useing it on at&t. Yea but i wouldnt tell At&t anything, I would actually lie if they asked. I say it was a old phone not a smartphone.
Ok guys, fine!!! I won't tell at&t either. Shhh!!!!
where did you guys order from? I'm thinking I may jump on one....
So.. Once you give them the dumphone IMEI won't they see your SGS2 IMEI doesn't match the dumphone IMEI that you gave them? Just because they don't know it's a smartphone doesn't mean they don't know that your IMEI doesn't match.. right?
intruda119 said:
Catch you? No they want. International sgs2 will never be in there imei database. Once they carry the sgs2 they still will think your using a dumbphone. Just don't tell them.
Also does the sgs2 work with 4g. The op mentioned H+ working speeds.
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ker0zene said:
So.. Once you give them the dumphone IMEI won't they see your SGS2 IMEI doesn't match the dumphone IMEI that you gave them? Just because they don't know it's a smartphone doesn't mean they don't know that your IMEI doesn't match.. right?
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They don't care. They won't recognize the IMEI so will think it is another dumbphone.
Sometimes you get caught anyways even with a phone that was never sold by your carrier. I did with the nexus 1. Some say that was a shot across googles bow and other such things. I did run unlocked phone for many years before that without a problem. My experience though is once the carrier picks up a phone you might be in trouble regardless of it being an unlocked international version. Pretty much a crapshoot then.
intruda119 said:
Catch you? No they want. International sgs2 will never be in there imei database. Once they carry the sgs2 they still will think your using a dumbphone. Just don't tell them.
Also does the sgs2 work with 4g. The op mentioned H+ working speeds.
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The speeds the OP is reporting are what ATT calls 4G. So yes it appears to be so.
That's good news. I might have to try this method! I've been extremely reluctant to sign a contract with AT&T due to data caps and poor coverage but an international SGS2 is tempting!
nomisunrider said:
They don't care. They won't recognize the IMEI so will think it is another dumbphone.
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thanks for the confirmation with it working on at&t! time to order..
Related question.. If I sign a new dumbphone contract with unlimited data and use this plan with an unlocked SGS2, will any of the ports be restricted?
krabman said:
Sometimes you get caught anyways even with a phone that was never sold by your carrier. I did with the nexus 1. Some say that was a shot across googles bow and other such things. I did run unlocked phone for many years before that without a problem. My experience though is once the carrier picks up a phone you might be in trouble regardless of it being an unlocked international version. Pretty much a crapshoot then.
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the nexus one situation was unique because it was a USA phone sold by google in the USA. an international UK phone has a much higher chance of not being in any IMEI database that ATT gets.
kitsVA said:
You don't need to tell them anything. If anything, what you should do is put your SIM in some dumb phone, call them and say you don't need a smartphone plan (if you already are on smartphone plan like me $25 for 2GB data) and want $15 unlimited data plan.
They will ask for IMEI of you dumb phone and model and change your plan. After you hang up, take out the SIM from the dumb phone and enjoy it in S2 with your new $15 unlimited data plan. They will catch you only and when they get S2 on their network and it could be few months before that happens.
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if you do this, will you still get HSPA+ speed with the 15$ dumbphone plan, or just 3g?
This was posted before. It will NOT work once they do an IMEI dump. SO.. THIS is how it should be done. Yes, it works.
1) You must have an iPhone 2G, and a sim card that has never been registered to an iPhone 2G before
2)Register the iPhone 2G in iTunes.
3) Check online account to see if plan went through, or call 611 and confirm.
4) Use the phone for a day to show some usage
5) Put SIM card into your Atrix or whichever 4G device you'll be using.
6) Call AT&T and tell them you got new phone. You will be grandfathered in to new Unlimited data plan. $5 a month more.
5) Enjoy your unlimited data!
Again, if you use previous guide you will be put into a 2gb data plan when they do an IMEI dump and see you're using an Atrix on an Edge data plan. Activate Edge plan, then TELL THEM you upgraded. They may try to BS you, dont let them. They CAN and WILL grandfather you into an updated unlimited plan!!!
And you know this how...?
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I know this as I did it 3 months ago.
Worked for myself and others.
This has been around for a while. Seeing as an incorrect guide was posted I figured id post the CORRECT way
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Worked for myself and others.
This has been around for a while. Seeing as an incorrect guide was posted I figured id post the CORRECT way
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That "other" guide was not incorrect. It worked for many users. Fyi. Worked for me just fine.
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It will work yes. Until an imei dump. If you don't tell Att to upgrade you and they dump while you're using an Atrix on a 2G plan, they'll add a data plan but it won't be unlimited.
Okay, it wasn't incorrect... Just inaccurate and incomplete.
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It still works?
Does this currently still work? Just curious.
Worked for me on my step son's line today.
Andy_Thatcher said:
Worked for me on my step son's line today.
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Thank you for the update
I work for at&t
THIS IS STILL WORKING BUT JUST FYI AT&T KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND THEY ARE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT PROCEDURES as SEEN IN MYCSP.
twayneo said:
THIS IS STILL WORKING BUT JUST FYI AT&T KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND THEY ARE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT PROCEDURES as SEEN IN MYCSP.
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Do you remember the matrix id so I can look it up at work?
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hello,
When you call in to tell them you upgraded to a new phone don't you have to provide the IMEI# of atrix? So they would change your plan anyways?
joe3681 said:
This was posted before. It will NOT work once
they do an IMEI dump. SO.. THIS is how it should be done. Yes, it works.
1) You must have an iPhone 2G, and a sim card that has never been registered to an iPhone 2G before
2)Register the iPhone 2G in iTunes.
3) Check online account to see if plan went through, or call 611 and confirm.
4) Use the phone for a day to show some usage
5) Put SIM card into your Atrix or whichever 4G device you'll be using.
6) Call AT&T and tell them you got new phone. You will be grandfathered in to new Unlimited data plan. $5 a month more.
5) Enjoy your unlimited data!
Again, if you use previous guide you will be put into a 2gb data plan when they do an IMEI dump and see you're using an Atrix on an Edge data plan. Activate Edge plan, then TELL THEM you upgraded. They may try to BS you, dont let them. They CAN and WILL grandfather you into an updated unlimited plan!!!
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twayneo, what exactly are they doing?
twayneo said:
THIS IS STILL WORKING BUT JUST FYI AT&T KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND THEY ARE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT PROCEDURES as SEEN IN MYCSP.
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Several of us are very curious about this. What is your source? What specifically is ATT trying to change, and by what methods? I just ordered my 2g on eBay. I really hope I'm not gonna hit some new snag.
twayneo said:
THIS IS STILL WORKING BUT JUST FYI AT&T KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND THEY ARE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT PROCEDURES as SEEN IN MYCSP.
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Bump.
Twanyneo, several of us would like to know what AT&T is doing about it. Or was what you said a lie?
Well, I just got my unlimited data today. So, there's that.
lurchbyrep said:
Well, I just got my unlimited data today. So, there's that.
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I guess he was lying. Thanks for the update. Enjoy your unlimited.
Oh, they'll throttle you after 10-12GBs...
vastelectron said:
When you call in to tell them you upgraded to a new phone don't you have to provide the IMEI# of atrix? So they would change your plan anyways?
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I have the same question.
Yes, you provide the IMEI# of your ATRIX. but because you have the Iphone 2G unlimited data the computer grandfathers you in and they can upgrade your $20/month plan into the unlimited $30/month plan.
I am having an issue trying to activate the iphone. I got the iphone 2g and i wiped the data and plugged it in to itunes and itunes reconizes the iphone but does nto try to activate the phone. am i doing something wrong?
How are you folks.
As title says, I've experienced some ridiculously slow data from AT&T. I tried different APNs:
1. Cingular 410, the APN is wap.cingular. This is the default APN that the phone comes with. The first time I popped in the SIM card, this APN is preset.
2. APN setting I used on my previous N7000.
APN: PhoneMMSC: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
MMS Proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
3. APN setting discovered in the forum.
APN: phone
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
The first and third setup worked, but the speed is like 0.3Mbps... When I initially tried the third setup, the speed was good at ~6Mbps. Then, a day or two later, I found the speed becomes 0.3Mbps. So eventually I got a little mad and called ATT tonight. The rep made some good effort and *refreshed* my network, and had me revert back to default setting, i.e., the first APN. The speed is still 0.xMbps. I believe ATT is throttling my device because both no.2 and no.3 setup work flawlessly on my N7000.
So the issue is now at a deadend... The rep can no longer help me because she can't just switch me to i317's LTE network.
I just want to see what everyone else on AT&T's network is using for your N7100. I'll give it a try and see if my device is indeed being throttled by ATT by comparing my speed with yours. If I still get the same slow speed when using an APN that's proved to work on our phone, I can basically conclude that my device is throttled.
In that case, I guess I'll have to go into the store to find an IMEI
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I wasn't really. Here is the situation. Before my N7100, I used N7000 with HSPA+ perfectly on AT&T's network. Before all that, I was on iPhone's 3G plan. I don't know if I need to change a sim card or whatnot. I do hope it's just the wrong APN i'm using and not that my device is being throttled by AT&T or something
I have n7100 on AT&T and the speeds are excellent for me. I'm getting around 6to 7 Mbps download and around 2 upload. Go get a dumbphone imei and call AT&T and add it to your account, don't tell them it's Samsung note international!!!! Also get unlimited data plan for 15$.
U should be all set.
I am on AT&T and my d/l speed is average 7-8, and upload about 2. Good speeds overall. I put my sim from my S3 into the n7100 and off I went...They will show the n7100 as an 'unidentified phone' and will not provision it to 4g, only 2g if you you are getting a new sim for it...BUT they should be able to 'backdoor' your provision via the techs if you insist on it, so I am told anyway.
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I have n7100 on AT&T and the speeds are excellent for me. I'm getting around 6to 7 Mbps download and around 2 upload. Go get a dumbphone imei and call AT&T and add it to your account, don't tell them it's Samsung note international!!!! Also get unlimited data plan for 15$.
U should be all set.
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I did tell the rep about the international version. She told me she can't help unless I have an ATT device imei.
So I told her that I'll find one and have her call me back tonight. Are you actually suggesting a dumbphone imei? I was planning on getting on off of GNote2 at my att store.
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I am on AT&T and my d/l speed is average 7-8, and upload about 2. Good speeds overall. I put my sim from my S3 into the n7100 and off I went...They will show the n7100 as an 'unidentified phone' and will not provision it to 4g, only 2g if you you are getting a new sim for it...BUT they should be able to 'backdoor' your provision via the techs if you insist on it, so I am told anyway.
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I used to have that kind of speed on my N7000 and I did not need to do anything, i just popped sim card from my iPhone into N7000. But this time, it looks like the same thing can't be done again. I am still trying to find the root problem.
Do you mind telling me the APN settings of your devices?
Thank you guys
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I used to have that kind of speed on my N7000 and I did not need to do anything, i just popped sim card from my iPhone into N7000. But this time, it looks like the same thing can't be done again. I am still trying to find the root problem.
Do you mind telling me the APN settings of your devices?
Thank you guys
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I think somehow I deleted my last post. But anyway use the Cingular 410 apn setting.
Also, see if you can get an imei number from an AT&T android phone and use that.
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Thanks.
My only concern is...what if other people in my area go into the store and got the imei as well, in order to use their devices with AT&T...? It'd be funny for ATT to watch couple people reporting they have *this* device that has *this* IMEI number
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Thanks.
My only concern is...what if other people in my area go into the store and got the imei as well, in order to use their devices with AT&T...? It'd be funny for ATT to watch couple people reporting they have *this* device that has *this* IMEI number
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Do you have any other phones in your house?
Like a old prepaid phone or something? You can try the imei # on those phone.
I actually have a old se t610 and n79 laying around just for that reason...
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Do you have any other phones in your house?
Like a old prepaid phone or something? You can try the imei # on those phone.
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I sure have some phones around. But they are all *smartphones by definition. I thought about using N7000's IMEI, iPhone 4's imei, or even iPhone 3GS' imei. But I'm not sure if it'll work. Because i'm afraid that they'll change my division in accordance to the new imei i provide. The purpose of using an imei off one of i317 in the att store was to get me into the right provision (even though n7100 does not have LTE, i bet it can handle the HSPA+ that's also provided in the LTE provision in AT&T). So that was what i was trying to do.
But i'm really confused about this. I was supposed to be in whichever provision the iPhone 4 users are in (that was the last phone I signed through AT&T), and my N7000 could handle it well, but it now fails on my Note 2. Before the call to AT&T yesterday, I must have been in the "iPhone 4 provision", which I still got extremely slow data on my Note 2. So I'm now trying to update them with an i317 imei and see if my data speed gets better.
Also, as OP noted, the same APN settings from Note 1 can no longer be used on Note 2, the data network won't register with Note 2 at all.
I feel like i'm currently struggling in a s***hole.
Just an update.
I got a new IMEI from i317 today, and a new LTE SIM card from ATT store. They didn't bother asking why I need it for, just gave it to me.
And I came back home. The lady from ATT called me as promised. New IMEI is registered, new SIM is activated, everything is setup. I have the APN set to "pta" and it is working. Well, the speed is only a little better at 1.5Mbps... This is way much worse than what girlfriend is getting on his iPhone 5 at the same location. She has 6~7Mbps right next to me
I need to dig deeper I guess...
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Just an update.
I got a new IMEI from i317 today, and a new LTE SIM card from ATT store. They didn't bother asking why I need it for, just gave it to me.
And I came back home. The lady from ATT called me as promised. New IMEI is registered, new SIM is activated, everything is setup. I have the APN set to "pta" and it is working. Well, the speed is only a little better at 1.5Mbps... This is way much worse than what girlfriend is getting on his iPhone 5 at the same location. She has 6~7Mbps right next to me
I need to dig deeper I guess...
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Just wondering do you have any imei number from a dumbphone, if you do just use that and sign up for the medianet plan. It seem like AT&T want to give you extra trouble for being honest with them.
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Just wondering do you have any imei number from a dumbphone, if you do just use that and sign up for the medianet plan. It seem like AT&T want to give you extra trouble for being honest with them.
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Hi Sorry, I should've asked you earlier. I did not understand the process. Is medianet any good in speed? And how do I *sign up for it?
Also, I want to update. It is really weird right now. Out of 4 speedtest.net test I did tonight, 2 of them went up to 7Mbps (amazing), while 2 of them was up to only 1-2Mbps. I only have 200MB per month, so I can't go further on testing w/o knowing that it will likely to work good (7Mbps). I am really confused...
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Hi Sorry, I should've asked you earlier. I did not understand the process. Is medianet any good in speed? And how do I *sign up for it?
Also, I want to update. It is really weird right now. Out of 4 speedtest.net test I did tonight, 2 of them went up to 7Mbps (amazing), while 2 of them was up to only 1-2Mbps. I only have 200MB per month, so I can't go further on testing w/o knowing that it will likely to work good (7Mbps). I am really confused...
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Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446373
It's just a loophole that you can take advantage of (unlimited non smartphone data plan)with most imported phone.
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Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446373
It's just a loophole that you can take advantage of (unlimited non smartphone data plan)with most imported phone.
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Thanks man.
Two issues I discovered through that thread. 1. it looks like some people get flagged, but it is not my biggest concern; 2. my biggest concern is the speed, as I'm not a heavy user of the mobile data, i get fast wifi at school and kinda fast wifi at home. So unlimited data is not my first priority. i do need, however, as fast as possible whenever I use the data to find information on the internet when on-the-go. Thanks for your help btw
Here is screenshot of some speed test i did when i just got my note 2.
As far as getting flagged, its nnot really a big problem, cause when they actually know what phone you are using, you will be put on the correct plan.
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Here is screenshot of some speed test i did when i just got my note 2.
As far as getting flagged, its nnot really a big problem, cause when they actually know what phone you are using, you will be put on the correct plan.
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Thanks for the screenshot!
I guess I need to start calling att again. Just tell them that I want to switch to medianet because i have a dumbphone and here is the IMEI number?
Google for an Atrix IMEI.
Call AT&T, give it to them. Be specific and make sure they put you on a 4G HSPA+ plan (appropriate for an Atrix IMEI). This is required or you will get dumbphone (i.e. infuriatingly slow) speeds. The Atrix IMEI will allow AT&T's system to provision the proper plan (the Note 2 or any other imported phone's IMEI will not - it will force the slower plan).
Enjoy your fast data.
I had to do this with my GNEX. When I gave AT&T the real IMEI of the phone, the data was VERY slow. Like 300kbps slow. I googled a ton and discovered that they had put me on a regular 3g plan (not HSPA+) so my data was very slow. The GNEX I had was pre-Google Play and was imported from the UK, so it wasn't in their system at all as a HSPA+ capable phone/IMEI. After giving them a fake Atrix IMEI, (I created one and validated it online) my data now flies regardless of what unlocked phone my SIM is in. It's the best solution. My phone shows up as a flip phone online, so they don't even know/care what I'm using. I do pay $50 for 5gigs of data because I need legit tethering without faking browser agents, etc but oh well.
My N7100 on AT&T with the Atrix IMEI on my account flies. Like 8 mpbs, 6 average. Very fast.
http://gdgt.com/discuss/how-i-was-finally-provisioned-for-4g-on-my-atandt-galaxy-nexus-i8z/
Are you on the Unlimated Data Plan the older grandfathered plan?
If so your prob being throttled for using over 3GB or 5GB