where are the water damage indicators? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

A friend of mine is interested in getting a Nexus 4 as well but is thinking of getting a used one. Anyone know where the water damage indicators are so he can check for, well, water damage?

There might be one in the SIM card reader area, but I'm not sure. Couldn't see anything in the headphone/usb port, but that's just me.

red12355 said:
There might be one in the SIM card reader area, but I'm not sure. Couldn't see anything in the headphone/usb port, but that's just me.
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Is yours the red cross hatch design? It's hard to tell on mine. In the SIM card slot, theres a small strip of white about 1mm wide before it disappears below the sim card holder's metal frame box. It doesn't seem to be very well aligned either. Seems like an odd way to do it, hiding almost the whole thing. I guess there must be some additional ones inside the phone.

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[Q] Acer Protective case mod.

I have the Acer official case for the tablet. 2 things i noticed. it was really tight as everyone knows to fit the tab in the case. after a few weeks of taking it out to replace the sd card. or clean out the crap that gets in it (dust, crumbs stuff), the bottom right has torn a little bit. just enough that it does not fit well anymore and slides down as i hold it. any idea on a fix for that? and one more thing. does anyone think replacing the Velcro with small magnets will damage the tablet in any way? thanks
(if this belongs in another sub-forum, sorry, please move)
gh123man said:
I have the Acer official case for the tablet. 2 things i noticed. it was really tight as everyone knows to fit the tab in the case. after a few weeks of taking it out to replace the sd card. or clean out the crap that gets in it (dust, crumbs stuff), the bottom right has torn a little bit. just enough that it does not fit well anymore and slides down as i hold it. any idea on a fix for that? and one more thing. does anyone think replacing the Velcro with small magnets will damage the tablet in any way? thanks
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i ended up cutting a hole out for the sd card door. and i was worried about magnets too, so i ended up using a stronger velcro and it works pretty good. as far as your tear, you might try super glue to repair it, or try sewing it back together? if i think of anythingbetter ill let ya know
hey thanks! yeah my girlfriend left her sewing kit at my house. so i mite just try that. anyone know about magnets? i just wanna be sure because i feel like it would be a lot better then Velcro
My case (non an OEM case made by Navitech) has a small magnets at two corner that hold it closed. They aren't very strong, but they are strong enough to hold the case closed and I have never experienced any problems because of them.
i bought the 9$ gizmogeeks hardcase from amazon and I love it. Even has a net storage area for cables on the inside
Why are you having to take card in and out...?
shaun298 said:
Why are you having to take card in and out...?
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Some people use more than one card.
Plus the damn microphone is RIGHT THERE! Idiotic of the designers...
shaun298 said:
Why are you having to take card in and out...?
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i only have one sd card at the moment. and im passing at between my droid, atrix, and this tab. i just ordered 2 32gb cards for the tab and atrix. does anyone think that it would be harmful to use 2 semi strong magnets right in place of the cheap Velcro? i have the magnets. but i dont know if it will affect the mic, or god knows what else is in there.
I used some 3M command double sided tape to deal with the sliding issue. It isn't too sticky, and the pull to remove with no residue makes it a non issue for getting it out of the case and off the tablet when needed.
I have multiple msdhc cards, with a 32 in both my phone and tablet, so I don't often need to switch out cards.
I'd recommend cutting a hole out in the case for it. No, wait, I'd recommend something else...
Not using micro SD cards interchangeably. I'm baffled when I read review after review of tablet or phone where the auther comments on how the SD card is buried beneath the battery or the cover for the card slot is awful and will break if used too much. Of course they are like that...SD cards are not meant to be interchangeable. If you really are moving lots of data back and forth, such as watching a ton of movies, fine, stock your tablet with a large card, but use the port that's actually meant for interchangeability: your USB port. Plus, it's much cheaper for a high capacity USB drive than it is an SD card.
And to actually answer your question, weak magnets should be okay, but it really depends on where some of the parts are inside the unit. Try looking around for other cases that are meant for the Acer and see where they put the magnets.
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n1nj4dude said:
i ended up cutting a hole out for the sd card door. and i was worried about magnets too, so i ended up using a stronger velcro and it works pretty good. as far as your tear, you might try super glue to repair it, or try sewing it back together? if i think of anythingbetter ill let ya know
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Would you mind putting up a picture or two?
i bought the targus leather case/stand for mine. It's $30 from best buy, but it has 3 angles for the stand and seems well built.I'd always recommend it against the official case.
okay, so first i tried superglue on the case. as soon as i slid the tablet in, it ripped open again, so that's a no go. i was going to sew it but worried that would just make it weaker or tear worse. so i used the 3m tape idea because i happen to have it laying around. works great! so thanks ... still trying to decide what to do about the crappy Velcro. :/
Johnny0906 said:
Plus the damn microphone is RIGHT THERE! Idiotic of the designers...
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Actually, the mic points toward the back of the unit, not the front. Looking at it from the front though, the mic would be a little left of center according to the measurements. So, with that info in hand, looking at that location on the back of the Acer case, there are three little holes, right where the mic is at.
I call mystery solved!
under some very close inspection i found a small opening in between the glass and the top bezel that is right behind the mic, not sure if that's what it is for, but it makes sense to me.

Water Damage Indicators?

Hi guys, just going to RMA my phone for faulty volume rocker (intermittently stops working for periods of a few hours and then randomly starts working again), however a week ago I spilled some coffee over my device, it was in a silicone case at the time which I think helped a little in stopping coffee getting here, there and everywhere. I'm fairly certain the issue isn't water damage related as that was over a week ago and the phone has been working perfectly up until a couple of days ago. I took the back of the nexus 4 off to inspect for any coffee that may have gotten in there and caused the issue but it was dry as a bone with not a coffee stain in sight.
Just wondering if there are any water damage indicators on the phone that may show that coffee has been spilled on it? I have heard the white strip on the inside of the sim card slot is an indicator, mine is still white so if it is then it hasnt triggered that one, any others that I should know of? Just double checking before I RMA and they try and say its due to water damage then charge me. Any info is much appreciated, thanks.
Daley87 said:
Hi guys, just going to RMA my phone for faulty volume rocker (intermittently stops working for periods of a few hours and then randomly starts working again), however a week ago I spilled some coffee over my device, it was in a silicone case at the time which I think helped a little in stopping coffee getting here, there and everywhere. I'm fairly certain the issue isn't water damage related as that was over a week ago and the phone has been working perfectly up until a couple of days ago. I took the back of the nexus 4 off to inspect for any coffee that may have gotten in there and caused the issue but it was dry as a bone with not a coffee stain in sight.
Just wondering if there are any water damage indicators on the phone that may show that coffee has been spilled on it? I have heard the white strip on the inside of the sim card slot is an indicator, mine is still white so if it is then it hasnt triggered that one, any others that I should know of? Just double checking before I RMA and they try and say its due to water damage then charge me. Any info is much appreciated, thanks.
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Umm the indicator can only be seen when you take out the sim tray, there's a tiny tiny strip visible on the bottom (inside the sim slot), and that's the indicator. Red = water. White = nothing
Edit, Oh just read your full post.. So you know about the sim one, heh..
But yeah as far as we know, that's the only indicator, however, its not fully visible when you're looking at it through the sim card slot, but if you do RMA it, they'll take it apart thus seeing the whole strip, and part of the strip may show water damage.
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Umm the indicator can only be seen when you take out the sim tray, there's a tiny tiny strip visible on the bottom (inside the sim slot), and that's the indicator. Red = water. White = nothing
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Good stuff, when I take out the sim card tray the white bit in the slot is white still, should be ok then eh.
Daley87 said:
Good stuff, when I take out the sim card tray the white bit in the slot is white still, should be ok then eh.
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Hmm if you look through the taredown of the N4
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/2
It seems there are two indicators on the mobo protective plastic plating.. Cant be too sure though.
Since its so easy to open the N4 ( no screws), in my opinion it would be best just to take off the back, and make sure those two white squares are clear, and if not.. Just bleach them out
MrDarkKV said:
Umm the indicator can only be seen when you take out the sim tray, there's a tiny tiny strip visible on the bottom (inside the sim slot), and that's the indicator. Red = water. White = nothing
Edit, Oh just read your full post.. So you know about the sim one, heh..
But yeah as far as we know, that's the only indicator, however, its not fully visible when you're looking at it through the sim cad slot, but if you do RMA it, they'll take it apart thus seeing the whole strip, and part of the strip may show water damage.
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Hmm if you look through the taredown of the N4
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/2
It seems there are two indicators on the mobo protective plastic plating.. Cant be too sure though.
Since its so easy to open the N4 ( no screws), in my opinion it would be best just to take off the back, and make sure those two white squares are clear, and if not.. Just bleach them out
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Just cracked it open again and those indicators are also white, there is a red dot on the far left but im 99.9% positive thats red pen as other parts are marked in red pen inside the phone (random parts on the ifixit link phone were marked in pen also). I've attached a pic to show.
Daley87 said:
Just cracked it open again and those indicators are also white, there is a red dot on the far left but im 99.9% positive thats red pen as other parts are marked in red pen inside the phone (random parts on the ifixit link phone were marked in pen also). I've attached a pic to show.
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Yeah, should be fine And I'm also sure thats a random mark, water indicators are normally a more vibrant tint of red.
Good luck with the RMA :good:
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Yeah, should be fine And I'm also sure hats a random mark, water indicators are normally a more vibrant tint of red.
Good luck with the RMA :good:
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Thanks, should all go well.
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Thanks, should all go well.
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Sorry for use this post, but, how was the RMA? Everything ok? It's because i am going to open my nexus to see if its wet or not (damn heavy rain)

Place to store a spare MicroSD card

So on the non lte version of the tablet there is a slot that would normally hold the microsim card on the lte version. For us, that slot is filled by a plastic blanking plate. Anyone have any idea how to get it out? I've tried prising it but no joy. MicroSD cards cost more the larger they are and I'd like to experiment with keeping a spare in that slot if I can just open it up and snapping them over when needed!
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So on the non lte version of the tablet there is a slot that would normally hold the microsim card on the lte version. For us, that slot is filled by a plastic blanking plate. Anyone have any idea how to get it out? I've tried prising it but no joy. MicroSD cards cost more the larger they are and I'd like to experiment with keeping a spare in that slot if I can just open it up and snapping them over when needed!
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Honestly, I would place a guess, that if you remove the back cover, you would probably have better access to the module (which generally are removable in most tabs).
However, even it you were to remove the "Plug", so to speak, my guess is that your SD card would probably slide inside the tab, thus rattling around and more than likely short out something on the main board
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Honestly, I would place a guess, that if you remove the back cover, you would probably have better access to the module (which generally are removable in most tabs).
However, even it you were to remove the "Plug", so to speak, my guess is that your SD card would probably slide inside the tab, thus rattling around and more than likely short out something on the main board
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I'm sure that if we get the back of the tablet off, then it would be easy to enclose the microsim slot with hot glue or something so the SD can't come out and it could be cushioned with electrician's tape or something to reduce rattling. However, I don't want to spoil my lovely expensive tablet by taking it to bits! This would be much harder without dismantling and may be impossible without getting out the blanking plate anyway. At some point I'll just have to bite the bullet and buy the expensive 64GB MicroSD at some point if I run out of space for videos etc.

A2017G (LTE800 (20)) with 128GB

Do you know if exists the version A2017G (LTE800 (20)) with 128GB?
Where to buy it?
No.
As far as I know, only the chinese version has different storage options.
And since I have a 128GB sd card as well as 2 sim cards running.. I don't really see the need for it either
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As far as I know, only the chinese version has different storage options.
And since I have a 128GB sd card as well as 2 sim cards running.. I don't really see the need for it either
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Can you take a pic of your modified sim/sd ?
Not too difficult to do ?
Picture.. I'd rather not. I don't want to take it out/reinsert it without a good reason. It is a narrower/tighter fit than before. As far as being difficult.. it was a bit fiddly. I used an old unused sim card to try and get a feel for removing it from the plastic, but it was more difficult with my newer simcard. Didn't destroy it, though. Just took some patience. Then I was hoping the 3m doublesided adhesive tape that I have would be good enough.. and eventually it was, but it's not as firm as glue is and there is a certain amount of pressure that caused the sim card to be pushed back a bit, so I had to adjust for that. But at least I can take it off without any problems.
So.. I wouldn't say it's difficult, but it's definitely not without its risks and you absolutely *can* destroy the sim tray/slot on your phone with it (and obviously the sim card itself).
It should also be noted that there are some variables to this.. if there is more residue glue on the simcard when you remove the plastic, things get more difficult because it'll be thicker in some places.
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Picture.. I'd rather not. I don't want to take it out/reinsert it without a good reason. It is a narrower/tighter fit than before. As far as being difficult.. it was a bit fiddly. I used an old unused sim card to try and get a feel for removing it from the plastic, but it was more difficult with my newer simcard. Didn't destroy it, though. Just took some patience. Then I was hoping the 3m doublesided adhesive tape that I have would be good enough.. and eventually it was, but it's not as firm as glue is and there is a certain amount of pressure that caused the sim card to be pushed back a bit, so I had to adjust for that. But at least I can take it off without any problems.
So.. I wouldn't say it's difficult, but it's definitely not without its risks and you absolutely *can* destroy the sim tray/slot on your phone with it (and obviously the sim card itself).
It should also be noted that there are some variables to this.. if there is more residue glue on the simcard when you remove the plastic, things get more difficult because it'll be thicker in some places.
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Thanks.
I've some sim card to do some try.
But I'm scared to destroy my sd card.
Do you have sanded the sd card?
I did nothing to the sd card except sticking some very thin double sided adhesive tape on it. Though sanding it down a bit might be a good idea if that can reduce the thickness without destroying the card, since the thickness is really the only issue.

Popped out my SIM card tray to find it broken

I see this is a very common problem with these phones. Except mine had snapped in half, and I was barely able to get the microSD card out. Now my SIM is stuck inside, along with the lower half of the tray. Issue is it's no longer under warranty. I've tried a few things, like holding it upside down and lightly thumping the top of the back/front with my palm. but that ****er just won't pop out. I'm leery of sticking anything inside there for fear of damaging anything, let alone attempting to pull it out with a cut credit card and a sliver of glue. I'm thinking I'll take it to a repair shop, but I heard that once it's taken apart, it loses its waterproof seal. Can anyone confirm this? Or offer some other advice?
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I see this is a very common problem with these phones. Except mine had snapped in half, and I was barely able to get the microSD card out. Now my SIM is stuck inside, along with the lower half of the tray. Issue is it's no longer under warranty. I've tried a few things, like holding it upside down and lightly thumping the top of the back/front with my palm. but that ****er just won't pop out. I'm leery of sticking anything inside there for fear of damaging anything, let alone attempting to pull it out with a cut credit card and a sliver of glue. I'm thinking I'll take it to a repair shop, but I heard that once it's taken apart, it loses its waterproof seal. Can anyone confirm this? Or offer some other advice?
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With fricking care I put a drop of super glue on a toothpick and fished mine out is how I did mine 3 times. I've broke 4 trays. I got a feeling it's something to do with sd cards ever since I quit using a SD card I haven't broke not 1. It's a punk ***** and I don't know why Samsung wouldn't use the metal ttys like in the past. I have several posts on this issue myself.
Yes once disassembled you lose the water proofing. I had to send mine in for warranty and needed my sim out of it obviously. And those tards of coarse said of the tray is broke the warranty was voided so I did everything in my power to remove it. But I did 3 times over
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With fricking care I put a drop of super glue on a toothpick and fished mine out is how I did mine 3 times. I've broke 4 trays. I got a feeling it's something to do with sd cards ever since I quit using a SD card I haven't broke not 1. It's a punk ***** and I don't know why Samsung wouldn't use the metal ttys like in the past. I have several posts on this issue myself.
Yes once disassembled you lose the water proofing. I had to send mine in for warranty and needed my sim out of it obviously. And those tards of coarse said of the tray is broke the warranty was voided so I did everything in my power to remove it. But I did 3 times over
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I'm very leery of using anything to do with glue, to be honest. Though that looks like I will have to do exactly that, unfortunately.
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I'm very leery of using anything to do with glue, to be honest. Though that looks like I will have to do exactly that, unfortunately.
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I mean I literally used like a quarter drop on the very top tip. The credit card idea seams even better a bit more surface area. The second time my tray got stuck totally and I bit the bullet and forced it out and it split in the middle between the SD and sim. Left the second half in it. The eject button doesn't work any more when I put my tool in now I have to angle it and pull. I haven't broke it now in like 6 months since I put my SD card in my Ps vita
I have never rough housed mine in the end I have probably removed my trays about 15 times since owning this device.
This is one of the biggest flaws with this device imo and I can't find a compatible aluminum tray anywhere
Could try pinching it out with two sewing needles?
Have done this with an iPhone for someone before. :crying:
Just make sure phone's off to avoid shorting anything...
CoreyOS said:
Could try pinching it out with two sewing needles?
Have done this with an iPhone for someone before. :crying:
Just make sure phone's off to avoid shorting anything...
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I'm gonna get a pair of eyebrow pluckers, or whatever you call those really thin tweezers, and try to pluck it out that way. There is a small part of one side that is close to the top of the slot (as it broke off... diagonally, sort of), so hopefully I can grab ahold of that.
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I'm gonna get a pair of eyebrow pluckers, or whatever you call those really thin tweezers, and try to pluck it out that way. There is a small part of one side that is close to the top of the slot (as it broke off... diagonally, sort of), so hopefully I can grab ahold of that.
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Fingers crossed!!!
No such luck. It's really hard to see in there and even with a bright light and magnifying glass, I can't seem to find it. Looks like I'll have to take it to a repair shop and lose the waterproof seal, since they'll have to take it apart.
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No such luck. It's really hard to see in there and even with a bright light and magnifying glass, I can't seem to find it. Looks like I'll have to take it to a repair shop and lose the waterproof seal, since they'll have to take it apart.
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I guess I got lucky. Food for thought after the fact. Get a LifeProof case. Their water proof at least give back some of the resistancy. That's what I got on mine... I swapped frames and screens on Mine
get a new glass back with the ip68 tape. cost around $10 and waterproofing stays intact. pull the old one off and just make sure you clean the bonding area well.
I've done this 2x with mine and have no issues with water intrusion.
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get a new glass back with the ip68 tape. cost around $10 and waterproofing stays intact. pull the old one off and just make sure you clean the bonding area well.
I've done this 2x with mine and have no issues with water intrusion.
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Can you point me in the direction of a tutorial? For future reference and for anyone else who may have to do this as well? I've already had mine repaired and all's well, but I think this info would come in handy for others (including me if it happens again). The fact that people are having to do stuff like this multiple times with their phones is rather frightening.
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Can you point me in the direction of a tutorial? For future reference and for anyone else who may have to do this as well? I've already had mine repaired and all's well, but I think this info would come in handy for others (including me if it happens again). The fact that people are having to do stuff like this multiple times with their phones is rather frightening.
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Not sure on the rules for posting links, but if you search youtube for "S8 back glass replacement" you can find plenty of videos. I personally used the ifixit teardown guide just to familiarize myself with any cables or things to watch out for.
For the back glass itself, just make sure you get one with the camera lens pre-installed and with ip68 tape. Price for the one i bought is currently $10.02 on ebay.
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I guess I got lucky. Food for thought after the fact. Get a LifeProof case. Their water proof at least give back some of the resistancy. That's what I got on mine... I swapped frames and screens on Mine
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Yeah. I will second this. I do all my own repairs. But in this case I just don't care. I'm not interested in reselling. Or anything. This will be a backup in a few months. Time to move on. ???
It stays in the lifeproof so it's water resistant and I don't have to see it.
Solved!
1) Heat a needle, or a tiny flathead screwdriver, and stick it in.
2) Wait 1 minute.
3) Pull out needle or screwdriver to find sim attached and out!

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