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I'm still on my G1, but my contracts about to be up! yay!
I was thinking about upgrading to the g2, but it worries me that there is currently no permanent root.
the first thing that comes to mind is that I don't actually ever shut off my g1, so I may theoretically never have to reboot my phone, especially since this one has a nice improvement over battery life.
I find the hinge snapping down to be a bit annoying, but not too bothersome.
and having tethering removed is a major bummer, I haven't checked to see if you guys fixed this or not, but I suppose pda net would still work?
any other issues I should know about?
My main worry is that if a permanent root is not found then development for this device will never progress.
I guess it all depends on how likely this device is to get a perma-root
I'd like a devs point of view as to how likely he thinks it's going to happen.
also: i suppose another option is to wait a bit longer before I buy
pda net works. hinges on my phone arent bad. phone was designed, so that the keyboard could slide out easily with one finger. battery is great, performance is great, camera is great videos/pics, and this is on stock rom. this is my 5th smart phone and its def. by far my favorite. i think i have enough phones to compare and im a heavy user. i provide network support @ a FBO airport, which means phones gets USED alot.
that's great to know, thanks.
but I've just thought of something else:
of course it's probably a stupid question and T-mobile/HTC/Google(I can't tell if this is supposed to be a Google experience phone or not) probably already thought of this but theoretically: would the anti-root 'feature' prevent it from getting an OTA update for Gingerbread?
my main gripe with the phone is just the anti-root. I don't want to be locked into a phone for 2 years if it's software is going to become outdated
HTCs lock of the phone will not have any impact on OTA updates, so still expect gingerbread to be pushed to the phone, and likely not very long after release. Hopefully the OTA update can be captured and hacked by the community to allow for full unlock if it hasn't happened by then.
There are enough people working on it Im sure it'll happen, just a matter of time.
Even if you don't reboot, the phone will randomly lose root as the caches are flushed during normal usage.
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Even if you don't reboot, the phone will randomly lose root as the caches are flushed during normal usage.
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mine has never lost root thus far without a reboot
you should buy a G2, in fact, you should buy mine! $400 no contract
swee08315 said:
I'm still on my G1, but my contracts about to be up! yay!
I was thinking about upgrading to the g2, but it worries me that there is currently no permanent root.
the first thing that comes to mind is that I don't actually ever shut off my g1, so I may theoretically never have to reboot my phone, especially since this one has a nice improvement over battery life.
I find the hinge snapping down to be a bit annoying, but not too bothersome.
and having tethering removed is a major bummer, I haven't checked to see if you guys fixed this or not, but I suppose pda net would still work?
any other issues I should know about?
My main worry is that if a permanent root is not found then development for this device will never progress.
I guess it all depends on how likely this device is to get a perma-root
I'd like a devs point of view as to how likely he thinks it's going to happen.
also: i suppose another option is to wait a bit longer before I buy
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You should wait for November 8th when Samsung announces whatever they're announcing. It might be the Nexus 2. Google it, it sounds like an awesome device. It should be simple to root too. I might exchange mine for it if it comes out within 30 days (I'm in CA)
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You should wait for November 8th when Samsung announces whatever they're announcing. It might be the Nexus 2. Google it, it sounds like an awesome device. It should be simple to root too. I might exchange mine for it if it comes out within 30 days (I'm in CA)
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I bet money on the Samsung Galaxy Tab... maybe they want to discuss more of it or that off 2-screened Samsung Android phone
thanks for the heads up. I can wait for nov. 8th.
the g2 looks like it would be one of the best devices unless samsung does release a "nexus 2",
I had a G1 for two years, then upgraded to the Vibrant a couple months ago. I got sick of the abysmal battery life and switched to the G2 a few weeks ago, and I am very glad I did. The root issue is a minor annoyance at worst. Having to run the temp root app after the occasional reboot is a small price to pay for all the other benefits of the G2.
Samsung just came out with the galaxy S series. They're not going to do another high end smartphone this soon. Wait a couple days if you want to be sure, but I have no problem recommending the G2 now.
When I first got this phone I was happy initially but wasn't all that satisfied with its bugs, lag and wack GPS. I don't know exactly what bugs you may have encountered but mine on 2.1 went as follows
- Some live wallpapers caused my phone to crash and reboot if I tried to set it. One of them (Pano-planet) always forced closed on me
- I couldn't play Fruit Ninja's and Flick Kick Field Goal because half the time I tried to, it would crash my phone.
- Ever since the update to make the google maps have that 3d came out, every single time I launched the app it would crash my phone.
- Lag, Lag and more lag
- My gallery app when launched always crashed on me
- When on the phone and I'd get another call on the other line, my screen would stay black for like 5-7 sec before it showed me who was trying to call me
- Battery life sucked.
Despite all of these issues, I got used to them and patiently waited for the Froyo update. Finally it came out and from what I've read, its a total mixed bag. A lot of people on hear said it wasn't worth it. So I personally was disappointed and didnt want to get the official update, afraid it may make my phone worse. Until I found out about custom roms. I'm a total noob but did research on custom roms and long story short flashed my phone to the Bionix-V by teamwhiskey. I should've done this a loooooooooooooong time ago. Not only is every bug that I mentioned fixed, but something that I thought was a hardware issue apparently isn't. The GPS on my phone is the best its ever been since I got the Vibrant. And the battery life on this phone is beautiful.
For the first time since I've had the phone, it functions and runs the way I expected it to run when I got it. I was thinking about getting another phone that I thought would be supported better but changed my mind cuz my work runs so well now. It functions so well, that I'm afraid to try out other roms because I don't want to mess up things. Which brings me to my next point.....SAMSUNG!! Its soooooooooooo sad that they have a line of phones that are capable of running so well get backed up/supported or lack thereof with TERRIBLE software. Thats like Sony backing and putting ps2 like quality games out on the ps3....makes no sense.
Anyway for those of you who are still running 2.1 software and are on the fence about which way to go (official or custom), take it from a noob like myself, who a week ago didn't know nothing about flashing a phone and custom this and that. FLASH FLASH FLASH....SCREW THE OFFICIAL UPDATE. ONCE YOU FLASH YOU WON'T GO BACK.
same here, once I got fed up with the waiting and the bugs, I rooted, then eventually popped a custom ROM on my phone and it has been great seeing how well the phone can work with proper software
I love the developers here. It's amazing what they can do, especially considering samsung doesn't really seem to care.
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Dont u just love the porn on super amoled screen? Isnt it like their right there?!?
Jk
Yeah its a great phone
It really is a great phone once the right software is pushing it.
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Thanks again xriderx66, your review on the roms helped a great deal
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This is a great phone and when the Vibrant 4G comes out we will be able to kite off what we need from them to make this phone even better
I just switched from an at&t x10 to the vibrant. Couldn't be more happier, i'm in love with this device!
Was hesitant to root for a while. Had a rooted G1 and loved it but I figured I would just let this one pan out. The T-Mobile OTA bricked my phone... So after learning how to use ODIN I decided to root it and see what I could get going on this and wow what a difference it has been. Still on Nero V3 and my phone runs smooth as butter. Amazing development community around here.
i'm new to this phone and someone recomend me to buy it. this rly is a surprise for me all this android stuff and the devs here are rly cool. i love my vibrant phone, won't change it even for an apple 4.
Ever since upgrading to stock 2.2 this phone has been the epitome of unreliable. It's like a pretty bad winmo phone running an android skin. Have to soft reset it (hole power down) like 5 times a day because the screen doesn't turn on. Pretty bad because you can think the phone is fine when you're really missing phone calls emails and notifications. Have tried factory reset switch batteries etc. Nothing works. It worked fine before the update but right now this phone is utterly unreliable and robust is not a term to describe it...
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xriderx66 said:
Dont u just love the porn on super amoled screen? Isnt it like their right there?!?
Jk
Yeah its a great phone
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LOL yes it's great to have Adobe Flash 10.1 too! xD xD xD
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Ever since upgrading to stock 2.2 this phone has been the epitome of unreliable. It's like a pretty bad winmo phone running an android skin. Have to soft reset it (hole power down) like 5 times a day because the screen doesn't turn on. Pretty bad because you can think the phone is fine when you're really missing phone calls emails and notifications. Have tried factory reset switch batteries etc. Nothing works. It worked fine before the update but right now this phone is utterly unreliable and robust is not a term to describe it...
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This is true. When the 2.2 official update came out I reverted back to stock so that I could update and see how well Samsung did. When I did, I saw the horrible ****tiness everywhere... slow and unstable... only had it running for 10 minutes before I just went back to custom software
It surprises me how Samsung ****ed up the official Froyo update when all the leaks we've been getting for our ROMs have been stable and acceptably fast.
Right now I'm using Bionix-v 1.2 and Dragon kernel 3.2 (a well optimized Voodoo-supported kernel that allows a maximum overclock of 1.4 Ghz and many more improvements!!)
im using bionix-v 1.2 by team whiskey myself and can't wait for stable froyo 2.2.1. im especially excited for voodoo sound that will bring our phones the highest quality sound output through headphones (thanks supercurio) and will soon be available to us without sacrificing battery life. i truly appreciate all the efforts devs here put into all these things.
anyone who hasn't been around here for long, please think twice before asking questions in dev threads.. i started flashing just about a month ago, flashed a number of kernels, roms, modems, custom frameworks, etc., and never had to ask a single question and never had any troubles just by researching, reading op and following instructions prior to flashing anything to get a sense of whatever i was doing. i understand a noob doesn't mean to be a noob. but seriously if you try, you can avoid getting problems unless there really is a bug. good questions encourage devs for sure, but a majority of noob questions don't and make serious devs leave us. i just really hope the devs who are working day and night trying to bring us good stuff without any rewards stick around and continue to produce quality creations as we've seen so far as long as my vibrant is still working and usable.. im so thankful.
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This is true. When the 2.2 official update came out I reverted back to stock so that I could update and see how well Samsung did. When I did, I saw the horrible ****tiness everywhere... slow and unstable... only had it running for 10 minutes before I just went back to custom software
It surprises me how Samsung ****ed up the official Froyo update when all the leaks we've been getting for our ROMs have been stable and acceptably fast.
Right now I'm using Bionix-v 1.2 and Dragon kernel 3.2 (a well optimized Voodoo-supported kernel that allows a maximum overclock of 1.4 Ghz and many more improvements!!)
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Honestly it didn't surprise me one bit. Samsung probably made an exceptionally buggy release on purpose, part of their way of trying to shut people up and convince us that they weren't ready. I gave up on samsung support a long time ago and probably wont get another phone until the N2 comes out (I'm through with manufacturer support).
I switched to custom roms after 1 month of having this phone and i have to say i absolutely love it. I personally favor Master's roms. But all in all the devs here are absolutely amazing. They allow this phone to reach its potential in ways samsung never did. I'm excited to see what comes out of Eugene's source kernel.
Thank god for all the devs who do all this stuff for free.
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Honestly it didn't surprise me one bit. Samsung probably made an exceptionally buggy release on purpose, part of their way of trying to shut people up and convince us that they weren't ready.
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Samsung software engineers dont know what they are doing. Period.
it is a good phone...the Bionix upgrade definitely made my phone run better but it gives me some slight problems on the vibrant that i have to work out
I had a Behold 2 and upgraded to the vibrant a month ago. I told my sister she have 10 minutes to play with the stock rom before I dismantle the POS rom and rooted it. 10 MINUTES guys!! that's how long the stock rom lived on my phone. i never even consider running stock.. currently running Eugene froyo 2.2 final r2 build with gingerbread theme.
I had a battery life hiccup for a bit. The A2SD caused the sd card mount to get hot and burns battery life. So i took all apps off SD and into internal storage and i'm now back to 24+ hours battery life.
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Was hesitant to root for a while. Had a rooted G1 and loved it but I figured I would just let this one pan out.
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It's funny because I said the same thing when I came from G1. "This time i'm gonna wait before I root". I ended up rooting it 3 hours later. Lol.
And yes as much as we ***** and complain about this phone, it's still a wonderful device. It's still 2nd best in terms of raw CPU/GPU power, with the best now being dual core tegras.
Before I start, let me say that I am happy owner of GTab 10.1 running task650 & Phantom's "In Paris v2" ROM. Now on to my story.
Waiting for the release of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 was something I anxiously did the moment it was announced. Once released, I was in love with my first tablet and spent the majority of my time on it. The lack of apps didn't bother me because this seemed perfect in every aspect. The only thing missing was an Otterbox case (instead of waiting, I got something similar with the Gumdrop Drop Series). Everything was fine until a week later, when I encountered the "Sleep of Death".
Relatively new to XDA and hacking, I had no idea what to do with the recovery and downloading screens that I could access occasionally thru hard button combos. So what I did was send it in for service to Samsung (I had yet to root or do anything illegal). I sent it 8/1/11 before I went on a cruise with the wife. After getting back, I expected to have my GTab waiting for me. Was it there: no. I promptly called Samsung, and found out it was notation the service center. After some complaining, I found that they had received it the same day. After being reassured that it would be there within the week, I relaxed that week. Still no sign TWO weeks after the call.
Many calls had led to nothing, until I was directed to Executive Customer Relations. They told me that my motherboard had crashed and the one put in as a replacement had ALSO crashed. I asked for an new exchange and was guaranteed a new one. Two weeks later, I received a refurbished GTab 10.1 with the bottom screws missing and screen misaligned. A call back to ECR had me sending it back, but it took another two weeks of calls to finally get a new one.
It has finally arrived and I don't think I could have waited any longer. The moment I got my hands on it, it was rooted and ROM'ed with the "In Paris v2" and Pershoot's kernel. I couldn't be happier. Just thought you would all want to hear about the story of my piece of coal slowly formed into a diamond.
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1 now "In Paris"
Just to clarify: rooting your tablet is not "illegal," nor is putting a custom ROM on it. Voiding your warranty is not the same as breaking the law.
Glad you're finally up and going. I strongly suggest upgrading to Paris v4 before you get too much further, though. It's much faster and has the full-screen power menu tweak (but you'll need to install pershoot yourself).
Damn, considering the number of reports describing people having issues with their GTab 10.1 I either am very lucky to not having any, or people are complaining too much. No sleep of deaths, no newton rings, no battery drainage, no lags for me. No nothing.
*knocks on wood*
My first table had the oil slick so i took it back to best buy and i haven't had a problem since.
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I like the tab but until I have rooted and modded it with Overcome mod I was not entirely happy with its performance. It is a great tablet but some of Samsung software sucks a bit.
I definitely needed to modify my GTab 10.1 after seeing the pre- and post-Touchwiz changes. The update seemed to add a bunch of redundant apps like multiple video, book, and music apps. One I switched to task650 and Phantom's "In Paris" ROM, I knew I would never be going back to stock. Now on v4 of their ROM and loving the SPEED
Everything has an ending, and so does my adventure with my beloved Nexus S. I have never had a boring moment with this phone from the first day I bought it on December 16, 2010. It was my first true smartphone ever (I didn't consider my Blackberry Perl was the true smartphone), and boy.. was I glad I made the right first choice with the OS and the phone. I have always been a big fan of open source, and Android was just what I looked for. Having looked at the Nexus One (almost went for it), Samsung Vibrant, Samsung Epic 4G, and then the rumors about the NS came out. My patience to wait paid off. Got it on the first day it came out.
A tinkerer at heart (been a tinkerer since the Moto RAZR and their P2K proprietary OS), I wasn't content with the stock GB on the NS. Googling.. Gooling.. Recovery.. Clockwork Mod... Bootloader.. Flash.. Risk of bricking.. What the heck are those? Then I found MIUI ROM pretty screenshots. I was sold (a sucker for pretty UI :laugh: ).. More Googling.. Gooling.. Got my NS bootloader unlocked with the help of the guides at nexusshacks.com. Flashed CWM... Accidentally wiped out the sdcard when I meant to wipe/factory reset (expected nub mistake...).. Then flashed MIUI.us ROM.. Rebooted.. Waited for good 15 mins.. Still looking at the boot animation.. Time to pull the batt (or so I was told in all the Googling).. But the anim disappeared.. a brand new UI.. ran to the fridge and grabbed a cold one.. set up wizard was a breeze.. Flashed update every Friday. Tried gazzillion themes to my heart content.. MIUI ROM was my only ROM until ICS came out.. I switched to AOKP/CM9.. then chose AOKP as the daily driver until today.
My many thanks to all the tireless and awesome devs for making Android more versatile. My thanks go to MIUI.us devs, awesome kernel devs: morfic (Trinity), mathkid (Matr1x), thalamus, bedalus (Marmite), CM devs, AOKP devs, XDA devs and members for all your great support.
Enough ranting.. Now the reason for my goodbye... I ordered the GS3 today and it's expected to arrive next week. I will have new things to deal with this new adventure (flash counter, triangle away, two scary things I read so far about this phone).. My brother will use my NS. I will still stay around this forum for a while, but the visit frequency will be less.. Good luck to everyone! Long live the NS!
You will probably have less flashing with the S3 as its not a Nexus devices and roms are as high quality and it don't get the latest version as soon, but since its so fast you will be able to flash quicker. Overall its a good phone and you will enjoy many aspects of it like the camera, notification led and quadcore 'GPU' (assuming you're getting the international version).
For flash counter, its not really a problem, you can use Chainfire's triangle away app. I think flashing stock odin images reset it also, or at least it did for me. Samsung devices use Odin so its very easy to restore the phone from software bricks. The main thing is getting used to MTP transfer mode which sucks compared to UMS mode.
My advice is to use double screen protector and always have it in a case.
Hello guys, since our XSP is already 2 years old, I wanted to know some of your thoughts on this phone. Do you regret buying it? Do you think it's still a good phone? Share your opinions here.
PD: Sorry for any mistake, English isn't my native language
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Hello guys, since our XSP is already 2 years old, I wanted to know some of your thoughts on this phone. Do you regret buying it? Do you think it's still a good phone? Share your opinions here.
PD: Sorry for any mistake, English isn't my native language
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In short, it's still Awesome to me!
The best thing is; there's so many stable ROMs to try, I don't think much of 2013 device has any development going now at all. So yeah I'm pretty satisfied.
I think it is a good phone today, but at this time i can say that only if i have stock debloated rom or cm11, lp roms have too much problems and freezes to use it as daily driver for a long time.
Btw i suggest you to try every single rom on this phone if you are getting to it now
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I think it is a good phone today, but at this time i can say that only if i have stock debloated rom or cm11, lp roms have too much problems and freezes to use it as daily driver for a long time.
Btw i suggest you to try every single rom on this phone if you are getting to it now
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Try CM11 by Bagyusz [v150826] if you haven't yet.
It's the smoothest 4.4.4 ROM I've ever used!
I have never even flashed phone than the SP.
The only reason i still have it, i like the colour lights.
Soooo sloww, android 6 rom fixed it but maybe too late?
I still regret buying it. It has been a disappointment for me from the beginning and has given me so much frustration. Honestly I think this phone actually made my life incredibly hard at the worst moments as if it could sense it. If I would have had a good working stable phone, I think I would have been happier the last two years. I'm not kidding and not exaggerating. I really mean this. So I'm very glad that I'm buying a new phone soon... I just have to figure out which one... But when I have one I'll be throwing this ****ty stupid thing against a wall, kick it a few times and throw it in a fire. I've literally had blue knuckles from hitting this phone hoping it was going to do what I wanted it to do. I even flashed and unlocked it and everything which I don't even want and like to do. And then somehow all roms slow down within a week even without installing anything other than whatsapp which seems to work fine for on phones of my friends. So I might even leave android and go for the new Lumia 950. Anyway, never a Sony again because I'm still blaming them for not giving us a stable stock rom and kitkat. I'm done with them, I'm done with this phone and I might be done with android.
So yeah... that is basically the rage this phone has given me.
edit: usually I'm a really, really calm and patient guy... really... but this phone got under my skin so many times, I can stand some amount of lag, but not this amount. I'm traumatised for life.
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I still regret buying it. It has been a disappointment for me from the beginning and has given me so much frustration. Honestly I think this phone actually made my life incredibly hard at the worst moments as if it could sense it. If I would have had a good working stable phone, I think I would have been happier the last two years. I'm not kidding and not exaggerating. I really mean this. So I'm very glad that I'm buying a new phone soon... I just have to figure out which one... But when I have one I'll be throwing this ****ty stupid thing against a wall, kick it a few times and throw it in a fire. I've literally had blue knuckles from hitting this phone hoping it was going to do what I wanted it to do. I even flashed and unlocked it and everything which I don't even want and like to do. And then somehow all roms slow down within a week even without installing anything other than whatsapp which seems to work fine for on phones of my friends. So I might even leave android and go for the new Lumia 950. Anyway, never a Sony again because I'm still blaming them for not giving us a stable stock rom and kitkat. I'm done with them, I'm done with this phone and I might be done with android.
So yeah... that is basically the rage this phone has given me.
edit: usually I'm a really, really calm and patient guy... really... but this phone got under my skin so many times, I can stand some amount of lag, but not this amount. I'm traumatised for life.
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could you just try this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/general/lagfree-want-lagfree-4-days-battery-t3245164
Sometimes I don't like how it lags.
But it's cool to use custom Roms on it.
I have it since 2013, but I want to buy a new one, lag free.
as long as i get new ROMS to try .. i love xsp
using one right now, rooted but with JB 4.3 and stock ROM. it gave me quite a headache at first due to some lag/freezing issues. was able to resolve those issues after deleting the built-in Facebook app.
I love it. It might not be the best phone but I love it. It can easily cover my needs ( mainly lots of video streaming) and I recently went back to stock 4.1.2 (from a 5.1.1 rom) that I've modded on my own. I just can't find something really bad to say about this phone. I'll keep using it as my daily driver until it can't cover my needs.
I have been using mine for 2 years and it is still a really good phone, yes it sometimes very occasionally gets the yellow fading and the memory management could be a bit better but in general it does everything you can ever need. Recently I have been a bit a bored though as I have had no justification to get a new phone So just started playing with the lollipop roms. Definitely given it a new lease of life!
Well i have this phone for a little more than 2 years i fell in love with it's compact design and of course the unique illumination bar,
it's still like day one on the outside, i bought it because my Neo V had dropped of my pocket and went to heaven.
But after 2 years i really got bored with,i didn't have many lags maybe because i don't use it more than average but the worst was that the keyboard kept disappearing and it didn't show up.
With XSP i am doing my first steps at heavy modding flashing etc,i remember those day that i was super happy cause i did made it to change the menu icons in my K800i and i was showing of at school ,anyway,i am afraid to get it bricked but i read tons of pages with one purpose the goal for me with custom roms is to find the battery drain, and the stability (ok ... sort of) of the original version, hopefully.
I definitely won't regret buying it, it worth's it's money, i comfortable keeping it even more, and i am still angry with Sony for not getting 4.4kk .
Peace !
I have it since last 2 years. Sold it last month to try Xperia M5, returned M5 (Because its a horrible phone) and re bought my SP with loss of 10 pounds
Best feature Notification LED and yup Gaming on XSP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M5
very laggy phone, would not recommend it to anyone