Ho is this possible? On my GS3 the screen is always less and it makes sense because if the screen is on the phone is awake but also the phone wakes up when the screen is off if there are background processes waking up the phone for network activity or something. On the Nexus 4 (or maybe it's a 4.2 thing) the Screen on time is always more.
Any ideas?
Mine shows the same. Maybe it's just an error in that graphic? I've looked back after using the phone for a while and it didn't show that is was awake in the graph but did show screen on.
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Mine shows the same. Maybe it's just an error in that graphic? I've looked back after using the phone for a while and it didn't show that is was awake in the graph but did show screen on.
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It's very annoying because I used to check it a lot on my S3 to check to see if the phone has been waking up a lot during screen off but now I can't use it. Yes there are alternatives like BetterBatteryStats and I do use that but this provided an easy and quick way to just see it.
What bothers me is not knowing if this is an actual bug or if Google has changed the way things work?
Using betterbatterystats is a good idea to get a second set of eyes on things, and then compare.
Edit: looking at the chart again I bet it only shows awake times on the awake chart when the screen is off. Screen on implies it's awake so it eliminates some redundancy doing it this way.
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Actually it all makes sense. It is more useful for us to see the times the phone is awake when the screen is off. This is what it is showing. It's assumed awake when the screen is on, no need to track it separately.
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Using betterbatterystats is a good idea to get a second set of eyes on things, and then compare.
Edit: looking at the chart again I bet it only shows awake times on the awake chart when the screen is off. Screen on implies it's awake so it eliminates some redundancy doing it this way.
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Actually it all makes sense. It is more useful for us to see the times the phone is awake when the screen is off. This is what it is showing. It's assumed awake when the screen is on, no need to track it separately.
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I had a feeling Google changed how things worked. Thanks for confirming.
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I had a feeling Google changed how things worked. Thanks for confirming.
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No this is clearly a bug. You were right in your original post. Besides, go to the wake lock thread and look at those screenshots. It is NOT reporting all of the time that the phone is awake when the screen is off.
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No this is clearly a bug. You were right in your original post. Besides, go to the wake lock thread and look at those screenshots. It is NOT reporting all of the time that the phone is awake when the screen is off.
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I wonder if the devs know about this. I'm running AOKP and it's the same thing as on stock.
It's a partial wakelock preventing your phone from sleeping. Use betterbatterystats to debug what it is and let us know whats the wakelock.
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It's a partial wakelock preventing your phone from sleeping. Use betterbatterystats to debug what it is and let us know whats the wakelock.
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That's not what we are talking about broseph. Look at attached screenshot. My phone has been off charger for a long time, screen on for about 2.5 hours. But notice how it shows the phone hasn't been awake AT ALL, even when the screen is on. Clearly that's a bug - the battery stats graph is failing to show when the phone is awake. You see this literally in every 4.2 battery screenshot.
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That's not what we are talking about broseph. Look at attached screenshot. My phone has been off charger for a long time, screen on for about 2.5 hours. But notice how it shows the phone hasn't been awake AT ALL, even when the screen is on. Clearly that's a bug - the battery stats graph is failing to show when the phone is awake. You see this literally in every 4.2 battery screenshot.
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I think what's going on is, as stated earlier, it doesn't show "awake" anywhere in that chart because your phone was never awake and with the screen off for any significant period of time.
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I think what's going on is, as stated earlier, it doesn't show "awake" anywhere in that chart because your phone was never awake and with the screen off for any significant period of time.
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And as I said earlier, that's wrong. Go to the thread about the hsic wake lock. Those people have wake lock for like 30% of the time they are off charger, even if screen is never on, but even their screenshots look like the one I posted (ie, very little awake time).
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On my S3/Note 2, every time I use my phone, both Screen On and Awake will be reflected.
On Nexus 7 however, when I'm using the tablet, even though Screen On is reflected, Awake isn't. Is this a bug or a new thing on Jellybean 4.2 or simply a nexus/stock android thing? If it's a stock android thing, then what does Awake actually mean?
Tried googling but I can't find any answers..
Awake means CPU isn't at idle. Like background processes running.
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Awake means CPU isn't at idle. Like background processes running.
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Oh so the Awake only appears strictly for background processes on the Nexus 7?
Seems different from the Note 2. Is this a stock android thing?
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Oh so the Awake only appears strictly for background processes on the Nexus 7?
Seems different from the Note 2. Is this a stock android thing?
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I'm not too sure exactly. On my phone it was always on with screen but may have something to do with 3g radio consuming power. It does seem real low compared to my phone. Even on cyanogen on my phone it shows constant with screen on and off. Maybe since there is no radio the CPU can idle most of the time.
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Battery on my new 32 gig sucks. 4-5 he's of use
Same here
If I helped out, hit the thanks button.
My question is not really about the battery life but on how to actually interprete the meaning of Awake on the nexus 7 as it seems different from my Samsung phone..
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I wonder why that is. I get at least 8 hours screen on time with stock 4.2. Right now I'm at 4 hrs 6 min screen on time with 51% battery left. Also have the 32g version.
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My question is not really about the battery life but on how to actually interprete the meaning of Awake on the nexus 7 as it seems different from my Samsung phone..
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I too am curious as to exactly why. I can only guess. I do know awake has to do with the phone doing tasks and pulling the cpu out of an idle state. My inspire seems to always show as awake even when the screen is off. I do notice though when I shut off mobile data on my phone, awake and screen on basically are in sync. The inspire has an old single core snapdragon though so as soon as I use my phone I'm sure the CPU is maxed out. However on the nexus, awake is only little slivers here and there even when the screen is on all the time. Maybe the tegra 3 is just that good Lol.
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I wonder why that is. I get at least 8 hours screen on time with stock 4.2. Right now I'm at 4 hrs 6 min screen on time with 51% battery left. Also have the 32g version.
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I too am curious as to exactly why. I can only guess. I do know awake has to do with the phone doing tasks and pulling the cpu out of an idle state. My inspire seems to always show as awake even when the screen is off. I do notice though when I shut off mobile data on my phone, awake and screen on basically are in sync. The inspire has an old single core snapdragon though so as soon as I use my phone I'm sure the CPU is maxed out. However on the nexus, awake is only little slivers here and there even when the screen is on all the time. Maybe the tegra 3 is just that good Lol.
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Haha same here on the Awake being little slivers here and there on my nexus 7.
Ideally, when the screen is off, the phone shouldn't be Awake for too long a period or too many times. It's an indication of partial wakelocks caused by some apps or processes in the background, which causes unnecessary battery drain. On my phone, comparing the Awake and Screen on allows me to quickly identify if there's any partial wakelocks. I can't do the same on nexus 7..
Hope someone can enlighten us soon on how exactly to interprete Awake on the nexus 7. Still not too sure if it's a stock android thing, a bug or a JB 4.2 thing. Haha
I, not sure why mine is like that. I am not a noon to android tablet and my Acer iconia get 10 hours battery use for a couple year old tab.
My nexus is setup with almost everything off and WiFi NFC of as well. The only thing I can think of is I did not do a factory reset after ota update to 4.2.1. I'm going to do reset after I do a full charge. If that doesn't work then I will flash a new to, and kernel
I believe the whole "awake" under battery is just a 4.2 bug. Because ever since my G'nex updated it's the same way even though it used to have solid lines in accordance with screen on. As long as both my devices continue to get normal (for me) battery life I don't worry about it. Though I do hope Google fixes it because I do find it slightly annoying.
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I believe the whole "awake" under battery is just a 4.2 bug. Because ever since my G'nex updated it's the same way even though it used to have solid lines in accordance with screen on. As long as both my devices continue to get normal (for me) battery life I don't worry about it. Though I do hope Google fixes it because I do find it slightly annoying.
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Thanks for confirming! Haven't been able to get anyone else's confirmation I was starting to think it's a stock android/nexus thing. Battery life wise I'm unable to compare because I got my nexus 7 with 4.2 out of the box.. No points of comparison.
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Thanks for confirming! Haven't been able to get anyone else's confirmation I was starting to think it's a stock android/nexus thing. Battery life wise I'm unable to compare because I got my nexus 7 with 4.2 out of the box.. No points of comparison.
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I also think it is a 4.2 issue. My friend told me that his Nexus 7 suffers from poorer battery life since he flashed a 4.2 ROM, he reverted back to 4.1.x for his daily driver.
Maybe it only shows partial wakelocks called from applications (not screen)?
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I also think it is a 4.2 issue. My friend told me that his Nexus 7 suffers from poorer battery life since he flashed a 4.2 ROM, he reverted back to 4.1.x for his daily driver.
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I don't think this is causing any extra battery drain though.. Battery drain when idle is very minimal which is a good thing..
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Maybe it only shows partial wakelocks called from applications (not screen)?
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That's what I'm more inclined to thinking too. Was it like this before on 4.1 or earlier versions? This is my first nexus device so I can't tell if its a android OS version thing or nexus device thing.
From the attached screen shot I'm guessing sweep to wake uses a fair amount of battery? Screen on time is 10 mins at time of screen shot.
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From the attached screen shot I'm guessing sweep to wake uses a fair amount of battery? Screen on time is 10 mins at time of screen shot.
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Looks pretty normal to me , the first 15% always gets sucked down quick , its pretty normal even without s2w , disable s2w bet u get about the same , s2w isn't a finished product yet u should expect " issues " for a while
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Looks pretty normal to me , the first 15% always gets sucked down quick , its pretty normal even without s2w , disable s2w bet u get about the same , s2w isn't a finished product yet u should expect " issues " for a while
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That screenshot wouldn't tell you anything. You'd need to post a screenshot of the kernel wakelocks from the app BBS.
Log the battery usage with the currentwidget then update please.
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Log the battery usage with the currentwidget then update please.
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How would that tell you anything? You need to determine power usage while the screen is locked and off, and if there is anything that is activating wakelocks. Ideally, you should test with and without the swipe feature by setting a "custom reference point" in BBS and locking the screen for 2-4 hours and posting both screenshots for a decent before/after comparison.
I shall take all your advice on board and report back. I'm running AOKP and faux kernel beta7 on power save mode. Will wait till this charge dies then do a charge cycle with S2W running and one without
Cheers
PS the only reason i posted so soon is usually before i stayed using S2W my battery wouldn't have dropped by that much already
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How would that tell you anything? You need to determine power usage while the screen is locked and off, and if there is anything that is activating wakelocks. Ideally, you should test with and without the swipe feature by setting a "custom reference point" in BBS and locking the screen for 2-4 hours and posting both screenshots for a decent before/after comparison.
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It would tell you if the phone is sleeping or awake. Yes BBS is better, but there is nothing wrong with taking a round about way either.
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It would tell you if the phone is sleeping or awake. Yes BBS is better, but there is nothing wrong with taking a round about way either.
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From what I remember, current widget is only a widget. Correct me if I'm wrong. So, you would need to have your device on and awake in order to read it. Or, does it graph awake times over time?
floepie said:
From what I remember, current widget is only a widget. Correct me if I'm wrong. So, you would need to have your device on and awake in order to read it. Or, does it graph awake times over time?
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I am correcting you because you are wrong
Current widget logs the current every set seconds. 300 is my choice btw.
Wake up in the morning, check the log and do this without s2w next day.
have you waken up? =P i'd like to see some results. thanks in advide to those who test this.
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I am correcting you because you are wrong
Current widget logs the current every set seconds. 300 is my choice btw.
Wake up in the morning, check the log and do this without s2w next day.
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Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
If your saying you left the screen on over night, meaning the phone never went into deep sleep.. If you slept for let's say 6 hours and the phones screen was on for that whole time it's normal that it went down to sixty percent battery.
Maybe I'm understanding your post wrong? Btw I cannot see the picture you posted.
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Turn off mobile data and lower the screen brightness to 0 during the day. Also disable WiFi when you're sleeping. I also make sure all apps are closed using the app manager button on the far right.
Mine's been fine following this logic.
Oh sorry, I should meant sleeping overnight, whilst I slept cosily in my bed.
I'll reattach the image in a second
Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
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Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
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lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
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lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
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This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
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This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
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My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
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Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
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Actually No the "Screen" should not always be at the top of the stat list. If you use the phone more than it idles, then yes... but if you are like me, mine says "Phone Idle: 20%" (which is on top) and "Screen" is 4th on the list with 12% (Wi-Fi and Cell standby above it) [this is my personal phone, and I mostly use my work phone. hence the high Idle & standby]
I was having an issue with my phone running out of battery, with very little usage from it. I mean very little, I might make 2 calls from it each day, and respond to an email now and then. I found that an App was preventing my Screen from going into "Deep Sleep" or even "Sleeping" possibly. So I uninstalled all apps (well I only had like 4 additional apps installed), except for 2 that I need (Google Voice & Drive). Powered off the phone, charged it fully, then powered back on. Its been running on the same charge for 24+hrs now and reads 68% battery remaining.
So check the apps you have installed, some use background data, and might be causing problems...
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My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
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And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
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What else would you like to know?
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A longer battery graph would help a lot. If yuppy want top search XDA there is a free app called better battery stats that will help you diagnose if something is running in the background eating battery or even if your phone I'd properly entering deep sleep.
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Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
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Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
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See now it is much easier to see that you actually do have a problem and what it is. You have the wakelock problem as you can see from Better Battery Stats which falls under Android OS on the other screen. It also appears that you have somewhat weak signal which could cause the wakelock to drain battery even more. There's not much you can do about that wake lock, some kernels have patches for it but those have their own issues as well.
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Could I just install any kernel on stock android and be OK with it? As I've said I've no idea what's best for me; just something nice and clean that doesn't have issues like this. I live onsite where I work so my WiFi is pretty much on all the time if that helps in anyway whatsoever
I'm gonna let it run down completely tonight and charge it, but I don't expect it to help much.
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And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
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I never told him to install a kernel. The advice I gave is to do a reset then I asked if he was rooted or running a custom rom or kernel because that might of been the problem.
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Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
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Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
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The battery on the n4 seems horrible.
I'm completely stock I just got my phone yesterday, I charged it to 100% now its at 64% battery with only 47 minutes of screen on time.
on the s3 I would be around 83% with 47 minutes of screen on time.
I'm gonna unlock the boot loader and root soon and try Franco kernel I've been reading good things about it.
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The battery life on the stock kernel isn't great because the CPU management isn't optimized well. It ramps up the CPU (frequency, number of active cores...) very easily and keeps it there long, which removes the occasional lag but sucks more battery. Flashing a more battery friendly kernel would definitely help you if that is the root of your battery issues and not a badly coded app.
Franco's kernel is a very popular one, and very battery friendly compared to stock (and that doesn't mean you lose performance). It is the one I'm currently using. Most people report of screen on times of 4 or 5 hours. With not so heavy usage and wifi (not 3g) I can also pass 5 hrs.
To install a kernel you need to unlock your boot loader and install a custom recovery. No need to root, but.. why not since you're at it
You can try different kernels with the stock ROM. You don't necessarily need a custom ROM. Just be careful to read the dev's OP and instructions, and definitely not to flash a kernel for another device.
Also another thing that reduces battery is your mobile data, if there are a lot of programs that sync on the background. You can use a program that turns off your mobile data when your screen is off and switch it back on just for a sync every xx minutes. Juice Defender is such app, though I like to use Tasker for that. If you use Tasker and are interested in that project, ask or send me a pm. It works great.
Hello i had this battery drain problem the battery was draining so bad.İn seconds it was dropping from %49 to %46
So i changed my battery to a mobile technicer.But same problem is keep happening, he told me i should charge my phone for 10 hours on my first charge and i did it but its all same.
My charge wont last even 2 hours screen on time.
Pls help me i tried to calibrate but it just made it worse.
You need to figure out what's drainng the battery. Get gsam or betterbatterystats to figure out what's causing it. Anything else is just a guess.
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jd1639 said:
You need to figure out what's drainng the battery. Get gsam or betterbatterystats to figure out what's causing it. Anything else is just a guess.
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They all seem quite normal
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They all seem quite normal
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If you don't see anything unusual after a few hours of using GSAM/BBS, no extreme wake locks or times held awake, I would then do a factory reset and see if the problem continues, if it does then you may have a bad battery and it will need to be replaced, it is not difficult to do, a simple YouTube search will show you tons of examples of how to do it.
If that isn't it, although it is rare, you would have bad hardware and need to get the device serviced or replaced.
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If you don't see anything unusual after a few hours of using GSAM/BBS, no extreme wake locks or times held awake, I would then do a factory reset and see if the problem continues, if it does then you may have a bad battery and it will need to be replaced, it is not difficult to do, a simple YouTube search will show you tons of examples of how to do it.
If that isn't it, although it is rare, you would have bad hardware and need to get the device serviced or replaced.
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İ was using pa but i unrooted and stocked my devixe yeaterday but its the same.My other battery was way worse but this one is annoying too.Could it be the brand of the battery?
Download and install from the playstore the app Wakelock detector, let your N4 get to 100% in battery and unplug it and try to use it as usual. When it reaches 10 or 5% take a screenshot of wakelock detector and post it here. Try also to take a screenshot of GSAM or Betterbatterystats.
do you try to change kernel or rom ?
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do you try to change kernel or rom ?
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Kernels and roms make very little difference. It's how you use the device and the wake locks you get. Without something like gsam or bbs it's only a guess what's causing the issues.
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maybe there is some kind of secret service that runs on the background and drains the battery ?????? well thats pretty weird.....
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maybe there is some kind of secret service that runs on the background and drains the battery ?????? well thats pretty weird.....
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what kind of battery life are you getting from your phone? screen on time?
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Kernels and roms make very little difference. It's how you use the device and the wake locks you get. Without something like gsam or bbs it's only a guess what's causing the issues.
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this, absolutely right. battery life depends on how you personally use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you have installed, and mostly on the quality of the phone/data connection that you have.
İ dont think its a software problem guys.My newest stats: http://i.hizliresim.com/rLNLAB.png
Any calibrating suggestions?
We need more detailed information than this to troubleshoot this... Without that information we can't really help. We need screen shots of Wake lock Detector, BBS, or GSAM. GSAM is the easiest to interpret, so shots of the main screen, app sucker set to time held awake, screen and radio would be needed to assist further, in English if possible.
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We need more detailed information than this to troubleshoot this... Without that information we can't really help. We need screen shots of Wake lock Detector, BBS, or GSAM. GSAM is the easiest to interpret, so shots of the main screen, app sucker set to time held awake, screen and radio would be needed to assist further, in English if possible.
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There you go:
http://i.hizliresim.com/kr8WqA.png
http://i.hizliresim.com/NV21a5.png
As i told,everything looks fine.
Everything does not look fine...Two things that's bothering me looking at this is the GSAM shot, it is showing you drawing 1500+ma off the battery... Seems very excessive, I usually see 350-900ma at most (433ma at moment). And the 41% of usage by the screen in just over an hour use seems kinda high, what is your screen brightness set at, and what does the GSAM Screen usage screen say, anything in the Medium or higher category is using very significant battery.
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Everything does not look fine...Two things that's bothering me looking at this is the GSAM shot, it is showing you drawing 1500+ma off the battery... Seems very excessive, I usually see 350-900ma at most (433ma at moment). And the 41% of usage by the screen in just over an hour use seems kinda high, what is your screen brightness set at, and what does the GSAM Screen usage screen say, anything in the Medium or higher category is using very significant battery.
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Screen brightness is set on auto and
gsam screeen page says Discharge will on/off: %10/%4(the screen was on for 10 mins.
Should i calibrate or try something else?
As i told its a new battery but the same issue
Btw i had red ligth of dead 4 times could that matter?
korkuadam said:
Screen brightness is set on auto and
gsam screeen page says Discharge will on/off: %10/%4(the screen was on for 10 mins.
Should i calibrate or try something else?
As i told its a new battery but the same issue
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"Calibrate" is a misnomer, it will not affect battery life or current draw, years ago in the Froyo/Gingerbread days you would wipe the battery calibration file to reset the display and estimated run-time remaining, it doesn't affect actual battery use or life, just how it is displayed and runtimes are calculated. You can always download a Battery Calibration app from the Play Store and use it, it won't hurt anything but I believe most require root access. I have seen some discussion that this is irrelevant in KitKat since the file is rebuilt on each boot, but I can't verify that.
Honestly though, when I look at your GSAM screen with 2:40 average screen time and just over 3 hours max, this part doesn't look unusual, but it doesn't jive with the screen shot showing 1:19 screen time using 42% of the battery... you are at 12% after 10.5 hours, the phone is obviously sleeping properly (only 28min held awake over 10+ hours is quite good), but at the same time you are showing 5%+ per hour drain. A little puzzling but not outside of the realm of normal.
I'm not really sure what else to say, every phone is different, this may be normal for your device, without screen shots of app sucker and screen usage in GSAM I can't really say anymore... try the standard stuff like switch to Device Only in location services to stop Google Play Services drain, lock the screen brightness at 20-30%, disable syncs, etc.
Of course, this could be something in hardware too... I had a Samsung once that no matter what would drain 5-10% per hour well sleeping even in airplane mode, yet no one else in the forums ever commented that theirs did, turned out it was just a lemon, a replacement would drain less than 1% per hour.
Nexus 6p running 7.1.1 beta. Rooted, but running stock ROM and kernel. Only modifications are Pixel launcher and Google Assistant. Brightness at 10-15%. Wi-Fi is on while the screen is on only, but Bluetooth and mobile data are always off. Location services are set to battery saving. Screen timeout set to 30 seconds. Adaptive brightness and ambient display is off. I'm only getting 3hrs SOT, but standby time is great. Only watch one hour of YouTube altogether and use social media often. Is this good or is there something wrong with my battery? ?
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Nexus 6p running 7.1.1 beta. Rooted, but running stock ROM and kernel. Only modifications are Pixel launcher and Google Assistant. Brightness at 10-15%. Wi-Fi is on while the screen is on only, but Bluetooth and mobile data are always off. Location services are set to battery saving. Screen timeout set to 30 seconds. Adaptive brightness and ambient display is off. I'm only getting 3hrs SOT, but standby time is great. Only watch one hour of YouTube altogether and use social media often. Is this good or is there something wrong with my battery? ?
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Install a battery app like GSAM and you can see what is using it, or things that may be causing wake locks.
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toledodj said:
Nexus 6p running 7.1.1 beta. Rooted, but running stock ROM and kernel. Only modifications are Pixel launcher and Google Assistant. Brightness at 10-15%. Wi-Fi is on while the screen is on only, but Bluetooth and mobile data are always off. Location services are set to battery saving. Screen timeout set to 30 seconds. Adaptive brightness and ambient display is off. I'm only getting 3hrs SOT, but standby time is great. Only watch one hour of YouTube altogether and use social media often. Is this good or is there something wrong with my battery? ?
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Try a factory reset. Factory reset mostly fixes such issues of wakelocks.
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Try a factory reset. Factory reset mostly fixes such issues of wakelocks.
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Tried that and wiped the cache partition. No luck. I'm pretty sure it's poor optimization on Nougat. Hopefully Google will fix it.
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Tried that and wiped the cache partition. No luck. I'm pretty sure it's poor optimization on Nougat. Hopefully Google will fix it.
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Even i was on stock Nougat for a long time...but i didnt face such issues yet. Infact i think Nougat optimizes better than Marshmallow. As battery backup has substantially increased...a bit.
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Even i was on stock Nougat for a long time...but i didnt face such issues yet. Infact i think Nougat optimizes better than Marshmallow. As battery backup has substantially increased...a bit.
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Oh well, maybe the next update will make it better
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Oh well, maybe the next update will make it better
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Well it may also depend on ur battery life..not all phones work the same as they must .
I seriously thought that such a big battery and the optimization that I 've witnessed on many other Huawei devices would mean that I would get better battery life.... How to fix this people.... Help!
Sulieman 91 said:
I seriously thought that such a big battery and the optimization that I 've witnessed on many other Huawei devices would mean that I would get better battery life.... How to fix this people.... Help!
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A little info, please. What is that you want to fix?
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istperson said:
A little info, please. What is that you want to fix?
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I have a problem with battery life on Nexus 6p running Android Nougat 7.1.1..... How t9 optimize my battery for better SoT and how to fix the battery drain?
It drains in such a short time.... I would've sent you some screenshots but it says network error...
Sulieman 91 said:
I have a problem with battery life on Nexus 6p running Android Nougat 7.1.1..... How t9 optimize my battery for better SoT and how to fix the battery drain?
It drains in such a short time.... I would've sent you some screenshots but it says network error...
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Private messages are not for chats, more so if it concerns others too, if it can help others.
You can write thenumbers that bother you, and we then can say if those are bad or not.
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istperson said:
Private messages are not for chats, more so if it concerns others too, if it can help others.
You can write thenumbers that bother you, and we then can say if those are bad or not.
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I get 4 hrs of SOT
Average use daily is checking e-mails - checking Facebook and Twitter - Youtube and Music streaming - no games.... Sometimes, it drains without even doing that and I barely pass a day without charging it.....
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The Screen on time is inconsistent as it might be just 2 hrs or 3 hrs and it would be consumed completely!
Is there a ROM or an app or anything that can help me get better SOT?
Thanks and apologies for the message, I now know that it was unnecessary.
Sulieman 91 said:
I get 4 hrs of SOT
Average use daily is checking e-mails - checking Facebook and Twitter - Youtube and Music streaming - no games.... Sometimes, it drains without even doing that and I barely pass a day without charging it.....
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The Screen on time is inconsistent as it might be just 2 hrs or 3 hrs and it would be consumed completely!
Is there a ROM or an app or anything that can help me get better SOT?
Thanks and apologies for the message, I now know that it was unnecessary.
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As I said earlier, and I can't stress it enough, install a better battery monitor such as GSAM. You can see exactly what is using your battery and what is causing wake locks. It is the best first step in trying to fix drain.
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ultyrunner said:
As I said earlier, and I can't stress it enough, install a better battery monitor such as GSAM. You can see exactly what is using your battery and what is causing wake locks. It is the best first step in trying to fix drain.
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Okay.... I'll install it right now.... Thanks and would get back with some better results, I hope!
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ultyrunner said:
As I said earlier, and I can't stress it enough, install a better battery monitor such as GSAM. You can see exactly what is using your battery and what is causing wake locks. It is the best first step in trying to fix drain.
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57.2% of the battery used by combined app CPU
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Sulieman 91 said:
Okay.... I'll install it right now.... Thanks and would get back with some better results, I hope!
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57.2% of the battery used by combined app CPU
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12.7% per hour of use (that's what the GSAM says)
Sulieman 91 said:
12.7% per hour of use (that's what the GSAM says)
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Make sure you let it run for a couple full cycles and you have to read it correctly. You can't get useful stats the minute you install it because it needs to run through full cycles while charging and unplugged, as it can only provide information for the time it's been installed. The longer you run it, the more accurate it is. Second, the App Usage stat is a percentage of the percentage of battery used. So if your battery is at 70% when you look at app usage and it says those things used 57% of the battery, that's 57% of the 30% used to that point.
You also need to look at the Held Awake stats because that will tell you what, if any, processes are keeping your phone awake and thus contributing to drain.
I have found that the system in Nougat does tend to use more battery than it did in MM. However, doze implementation is better and it deep sleeps more and does a better job of saving battery. In fact since Nougat, I've stopped using Greenify because it actually seemed to make my battery worse. Since I've been on Nougat I get well over a day on a charge with about 5-5:30 SoT. However, battery also comes down to what ROM and kernel you use and how much you do processor and screen intensive tasks. Music streaming doesn't tend to use much battery, but if you spend a lot of time web surfing, Youtube and games, you'll cook your battery no matter what. If you use the Facebook app, nothing you can do will help as it's a dreadful battery suck.
Here are the numbers provided by the GSam App
Are these numbers good or bad?
The average use gets me through the day but if I use it heavily, it would last 3hrs max.
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