Mp4 files in Google drive... - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been using the 5gb of free space to load a few movies and watch with my GN7. After the files are loaded in the cloud and I click on one in GDrive on my tablet it takes forever to load. Like it is downloading onto my tablet. I thought after it was loaded in the cloud it would just play. What am I not understanding?

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Is there a way to use the cloud drive as a real cloud drive (i.e. dropbox)? It's cool that it sync's docs, music, and apps automatically, but what if I want to put some stuff in there from my PC and have it available on my kindle fire to download (or not) when i wanted to?
Anyone got any ideas or alternate apps?
Sugarsync works great and was just released on the kindle. I like it better than dropbox. Holds a reasonable bandwidth so I can actually play video files as I download them. 5GB free. Reasonable rates for more space.
ccrooks said:
Is there a way to use the cloud drive as a real cloud drive (i.e. dropbox)? It's cool that it sync's docs, music, and apps automatically, but what if I want to put some stuff in there from my PC and have it available on my kindle fire to download (or not) when i wanted to?
Anyone got any ideas or alternate apps?
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To upload files directly into Cloud Drive from your computer:
Goto https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive#path=/ on your computer and log into your amazon account.
1.Click on the "Upload Files" button on the top left corner of the page.
2.Click on "Your Cloud Drive" to select a destination folder for your files. If you do not select a folder at this time, your files will be uploaded into the "Your Cloud Drive" root folder. You will be able to move or copy your files into a different folder once your upload is complete.
3.Next, click on "Select files to upload." Select one or more files from your computer to upload.
4.Confirm your selection to begin uploading your files. ​You can now access your files from any computer or Kindle Fire. You can also use Cloud MP3 player to play music from your cloud dive music folder on your computer.
I know that it's possible to access my music, apps and books on the cloud on my kindle fire.
BUt if i have photos, personal docs, etc on my cloud drive, there isnt a cloud option on "docs" on Kindle Fire and there is no way to access them on fire. You can view all the files by silk browser but you cant download them i think.
I think amazon screwed really bad on that.
If you go to the Amazon Cloud Drive location via Silk Browser you can download the document you placed on the Cloud Drive. You'll need to tap the name of the document to initiate the download to the Kindle. Selecting the checkbox for your doc and clicking the download button will not work. You'll need to tap the name of the doc. The file will appear in your Downloads folder. I was able to upload a Word doc via my PC and download that file via Silk Browser to my Fire. Unfortunately Quick Word was unable to open the file, but I was able to open the document using 'Documents To Go'.
rad3 said:
Sugarsync works great and was just released on the kindle. I like it better than dropbox. Holds a reasonable bandwidth so I can actually play video files as I download them. 5GB free. Reasonable rates for more space.
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does it matter what file type to do streaming with sugarsync? Should I keep movies under a certain size?
I got sample from a movie to work for streaming, but the whole movie wouldn't work. The file size was like 1.25 or 1.5 gig though.
Makes me wonder why Amazon Cloud Drive doesnt have an app...
nednarb said:
does it matter what file type to do streaming with sugarsync? Should I keep movies under a certain size?
I got sample from a movie to work for streaming, but the whole movie wouldn't work. The file size was like 1.25 or 1.5 gig though.
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I've had no problem streaming 600kbps video from sugarsync. Guessing the file you were streaming was a bit more than that.
I can't say enough good things about sugarsync. I can simply drop files in a synced folder on any PC and access it from any other PC or mobile device. I can also upload files from one mobile device and access from another (use this all the time to move apk files from my phone to my Fire).
Interface look could use some work, but its as easy as it gets.
ccrooks said:
Is there a way to use the cloud drive as a real cloud drive (i.e. dropbox)? It's cool that it sync's docs, music, and apps automatically, but what if I want to put some stuff in there from my PC and have it available on my kindle fire to download (or not) when i wanted to?
Anyone got any ideas or alternate apps?
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Use minus, its easy, and give us 10gb of free cloud drive
FoibleOfHumanity said:
Makes me wonder why Amazon Cloud Drive doesnt have an app...
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I think amazon's idea was to implement cloud drive on kindle fire features.
You can listen music from your cloud drive on music section on kindle, you can watch videos and apps on cloud too, i think they failed on documents, cause there is NO cloud option...
if there is an cloud option on docs section on kindle fire, you can access all your files on your cloud drive, but using that sections - music, videos, docs, apps.
therethere said:
I think amazon's idea was to implement cloud drive on kindle fire features.
You can listen music from your cloud drive on music section on kindle, you can watch videos and apps on cloud too, i think they failed on documents, cause there is NO cloud option...
if there is an cloud option on docs section on kindle fire, you can access all your files on your cloud drive, but using that sections - music, videos, docs, apps.
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Actually, The only Amazon cloud feature that makes sense is audio. You have an interface for playing any uploaded audio (or Amazon purchased audio) from their interface as well as the ability to move files back and forth from the cloud.
With video, images and other files and docs, there is no intelligent way to interface with these files.you can't play an uploaded video from the cloud, you can't view an image directly from the cloud, and you can't manage other files directly from the cloud. Files have to be downloaded before you can do anything with them. And cloud videos are not accessible from the video page, and cloud images are not accessible from the gallery.
I'm actually using mp3s in Amazons cloud, videos in sugarsync, and images in Flickr. Additional docs are managed in sugarsync. Would rather have one, but this setup actually gives me accessible, playable and manageable files for all.
Can't you do all those things with Dropbox? There's no defacto reason they couldn't set it up that way.
What's the rule or offer with uploading your own music to Amazon?
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Actually, The only Amazon cloud feature that makes sense is audio. You have an interface for playing any uploaded audio (or Amazon purchased audio) from their interface as well as the ability to move files back and forth from the cloud.
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Not only audio, but also apps and books are working good with the cloud. You can read and use books and apps from the cloud and download to device.
Only videos and docs (images, documents, etc) are not streaming from the cloud, neither accessible with that 2 options CLOUD/DEVICE that the others have.
I'm using picasa for photos and sugarsync for videos too.

Using the cloud to stream movies etc - How?

Since the Nexus doesn't come with an SD slot I was wondering what the best way is to use the cloud as a storage medium for movies and stuff like that. I know Google has things such as Google Music but those aren't available in my country.
I'm planning on getting an OTG cable and an app to mount an USB Flash Drive but if there's other ways I'd love to hear them.
The idea with the streaming movies is to buy them from the Play Store and stream them that way. I'm sure there are other websites, but the problem is with the flash player not being built in, you have to side load it which can be tricky sometimes.
If you want to use Google Music outside the US, there is a thread here about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757991
I recommend using tunnelbear. I tried various proxys for an hour and couldn't get any to work. Tries tunnelbear and sorted it in a few mins. Already uploaded 3,000 songs to it
Jon565G said:
The idea with the streaming movies is to buy them from the Play Store and stream them that way. I'm sure there are other websites, but the problem is with the flash player not being built in, you have to side load it which can be tricky sometimes.
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I see, well guess OTG it will be than. The day I start paying for a stream of bytes without actually getting to own that stream of bytes is the day hell freezes over. I have an extensive movie (DVD) collection and I'm not about to buy everything again.
If you want to use Google Music outside the US, there is a thread here about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757991
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Yea I tried that (using a SOCKS proxy to my hosting server in California), I could access music.google.com but apparently you need to install an application on your PC to use it, which might be a problem (linux user). Gonna look at it again later tonight.
Amon_Re said:
I see, well guess OTG it will be than. The day I start paying for a stream of bytes without actually getting to own that stream of bytes is the day hell freezes over. I have an extensive movie (DVD) collection and I'm not about to buy everything again.
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I agree totally. I've converted some of mine to AVI so that I can watch it on my PS3 external HDD without having to use the disc. So it's quite easy to just copy them to the N7 and use MX Player.
I do have another option for you if you own a Wifi direct phone. (Mainly android 4.0 +). It's called Wifi Shoot! : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.budius.WiFiShoot&hl=en. You can just pick the file you want off your phone and transfer it to the N7, like you would Bluetooth a file
If you can't do that, like me (Stupid Sony deleting that feature from ICS) you could use Airdroid. Get your phone to act as a Wifi Hotspot and connect to it with the N7. You can then transfer files as to your tablet the same way you would your PC if you use Airdroid. (It doesn't use any data and can transfer very fast). I used this when I was on Holiday and didn't have a laptop.
That app looks very cool, thx!

Nexus 4 and the Cloud

I have resisted the cloud to this point. I mean, Photobucket has a bunch of my pics, but my main backup is still a physical 2.5" HDD in an external enclosure. I always worried about security or a cloud server going down and losing my data (pics, videos, etc). With my recent order (which has been shipped), I am now interested in converting. The lack of microsd on the Nexus 4 forces my hand.
What are you guys using for cloud storage? Most secure? Most dependable? Storage (GB)? Cloud expense (free vs paid)? You cloud experts... send a little advice my way. Thanks.
I think Box offers the most free cloud storage. You get 50GB once they recognize you have a Nexus 4 (or any LG phone). You can only upload 200MB at a time, though...
Dropbox is the most popular. Starts you off with 3GB, I believe, and they offer a variety of ways for you to increase storage.
There's also Google Drive, which starts you with 5GB.
Those are the three I currently use. I jump between Dropbox and Drive.
BONUS: If you have a lot of music, you can upload 20,000 songs to Google Play Music. That's my favorite cloud medium, at the moment.
Also if you're going to pay, Drive has the cheapest price per GB. I'm running 100GB for $5/month, that with Google Music backs up everything but my videos (and those are, ahem, easy to reacquire). The Drive app for Android is nice and has native support for PDF, DOC, and XLS files.
I use Microsoft's Sky Drive. It's great.
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Personally I use the following. All of which is free as well.
Google - Music and Books. I've been pretty impressed with Google Music, and have only just started using it recently (I converted because I had to as well, what with the Nexus 4's small storage). I choose both the above because I like the corresponding apps, and have been happy with prices of Google boobs on the play store. All my music is backed up on my home server.
Dropbox - Small files and some photos. I've been using dropbox for ages now, well before Google Drive came about. It's very easy to access (apps on just about every platform and a web browser interface as well). Truth be told, if I was to start now I would probably just use Google Drive, for consitency with the other Google services I use. One less password at the end of the day to remember. Having said that, I am satisfied with Dropbox. I wouldn't upload anything highly secure there pesonally, as these things can be hacked. Drop box kind of backs it self up if you use the desktop app, since it allows you to automatically download all your files from their server and just leaves it in a dropbox folder on your computer. I think Drive does the same thing mind you. I keep some photos on facebook as well, which I suppose is an option for keeping photos in the server.
I personally don't keep tv shows and movies in the cloud, the cost of steaming it would kill my bandwidth allocation. I keep these all on my home server, and if I go away for the weekend I'll either take them on a usb, laptop, tablet or my phone.
I use Google Music as the cloud service for my music. I use Google Picasa Web and Google + albums for my pictures. I use Play movies for my television shows and movies.
I use Amazon Kindle and Play Books for my cloud services for books. I use Box for the kitchen sink to save all my documents and pertinent information. You cannot go wrong with 50 GB of storage
Mostly all these services are free for me.
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The only active cloud service I'm using at the moment is Google Music.
I also have Box and Drive accounts but I can't find a use for them really.
I honestly hope Google allows developers access for apps to use Google Music. Pretty annoying.
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The benefit of signing up for cloud accounts when they first come out?
I've got 20GB of Google Drive space.... for $5/year.
I've got 25GB of SkyDrive space.... for free.
I use SkyDrive, Google Drive and Photobucket for my photos.
I use SkyDrive almost exclusively for my documents, because Google Drive still just can't figure out how not to **** up Office Documents. I use Google Drive as a backup to store my documents saved to SkyDrive, but never work on documents out of Google Drive.
I use Google Play Music to backup my music. Although I keep about 5GB of my favorite music on my N4. I only use Play Music to stream a song or two on occasion.
I use a DVD player/Blu-Ray player for my movies. I mean, really, I rarely want to watch a movie so badly that I'll watch it on my phone. Tablet, maybe, but definitely not my phone.
If Box is offering 50GB for LG phone users, I'll be signing up for that too. That way, if it changes, I'll likely be grandfathered in.
ownCloud
I'm very keen on trying ownCloud.
It's not easy to set up but it's free and I feel a bit weird about paying a stranger to host my files.
My cable internet connection is very good and my home computer is on all the time.
The upspeed is obviously not as great but I don't think it matters that much.
Is anyone using it already or can share an experience with it?
I can't believe there isn't a way to drag songs instead of selecting a folder. What a pita, I don't want the whole album, I want to listen certain songs.. And more importantly I want to drag and drop from foobar instead of given gay choice itunes or WMP. Uhhh, Google...

Cloud Storage

I need help with Cloud Storage for my N4. I have an 8GB model and I have like 3 GB left of space, but I don't want to use that up since I have to leave some room for rooting with CWM, Titanium Backup, and a few ROM's. I want to put my music into cloud storage. How would I do that? What about my photos, documents, etc? I have Box and Dropbox for now. The music part is something that is important because I want to listen to my tunes on my phone.
nviz22 said:
I need help with Cloud Storage for my N4. I have an 8GB model and I have like 3 GB left of space, but I don't want to use that up since I have to leave some room for rooting with CWM, Titanium Backup, and a few ROM's. I want to put my music into cloud storage. How would I do that? What about my photos, documents, etc? I have Box and Dropbox for now. The music part is something that is important because I want to listen to my tunes on my phone.
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You don't need to leave room for rooting, just your backups.
Far as cloud stuff, Google Play Music. Can just stream all your music that way (as I got over 24GB of music, I wouldn't put it all on my phone but I can stream it no problem with google music. )
Music is probably going to be the bulk of your storage, aside from that probably movies, which I'd stream too, either from cloud or from home PC.
I wish the Nexus 4 was compatible with USB-OTG (without the extra power adapter) because then I would just use an 8GB Thumbdrive like I do with my Nexus 7 and TWRP Recovery (which supports USB-OTG), since it will save my backups directly to the thumbdrive, as well as install roms and such from it, no space taken on the device to do it.
kbeezie said:
You don't need to leave room for rooting, just your backups.
Far as cloud stuff, Google Play Music. Can just stream all your music that way (as I got over 24GB of music, I wouldn't put it all on my phone but I can stream it no problem with google music. )
Music is probably going to be the bulk of your storage, aside from that probably movies, which I'd stream too, either from cloud or from home PC.
I wish the Nexus 4 was compatible with USB-OTG (without the extra power adapter) because then I would just use an 8GB Thumbdrive like I do with my Nexus 7 and TWRP Recovery (which supports USB-OTG), since it will save my backups directly to the thumbdrive, as well as install roms and such from it, no space taken on the device to do it.
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How do I use Google Play Music to store it?
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How do I use Google Play Music to store it?
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You have to download it onto your computer and sign in with your google account. It will let you pick which source it will sync and upload music from (in my case it takes from my iTunes library and uploads it into google). I think currently the limit is like 20,000 of your own songs on the cloud that you can stream to wherever you sign into be it the web or on google's music app on android.
If you go here: https://play.google.com/music/ you should see an "upload music" button on the top right, which on a PC or Mac will download the Music Manager.
It's similar to how iTunes match works, except free (but only supports Mp3, it'll convert aac and such to mp3 as it's uploading to the google cloud). You can set it to only upload that first time, or to upload each time you add new songs like if I add new songs to my iTunes library, it'll upload.
Just remember, on your phone if you "pin" an album, it saves that album locally to your phone so it will take up space if you pin it, but not if you just stream it.
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You have to download it onto your computer and sign in with your google account. It will let you pick which source it will sync and upload music from (in my case it takes from my iTunes library and uploads it into google). I think currently the limit is like 20,000 of your own songs on the cloud that you can stream to wherever you sign into be it the web or on google's music app on android.
If you go here: https://play.google.com/music/ you should see an "upload music" button on the top right, which on a PC or Mac will download the Music Manager.
It's similar to how iTunes match works, except free (but only supports Mp3, it'll convert aac and such to mp3 as it's uploading to the google cloud). You can set it to only upload that first time, or to upload each time you add new songs like if I add new songs to my iTunes library, it'll upload.
Just remember, on your phone if you "pin" an album, it saves that album locally to your phone so it will take up space if you pin it, but not if you just stream it.
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Ok, thanks. 8 GB with no SD has people moving around to manage space. At least my apps don't eat up all my memory like some other people. I couldn't afford the 16 GB edition, but the 8GB model is fine enough for me. I love my N4 since I have been using it for just a week.
PS: The main annoying thing about Google Music is that they tend to add a "free" track/song to your library every so often. Which I guess isn't necessarily a bad thing, if it was music that I actually liked. But you can always go over to the left on their site to "Free and Purchased", and just delete the free tracks you don't want as opposed to sorting thru your entire library.
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nviz22 said:
Ok, thanks. 8 GB with no SD has people moving around to manage space. At least my apps don't eat up all my memory like some other people. I couldn't afford the 16 GB edition, but the 8GB model is fine enough for me. I love my N4 since I have been using it for just a week.
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Yea I know the feeling, I have both a 16GB Nexus 4 and 16GB Nexus 7 (I didn't have a choice on which Nexus 4 T-Mobile was selling, but 17/month for the phone ain't bad if you look at the 60$ higher price as interest on a loan).
For music on android, Google Music (I use iTunes Match for my iPad, but I haven't used it in a while since I got the Nexus 7, and I already have an iPod Nano 6th Generation that's 16GB).
For movies or videos, I usually stream off my home computer using Plex, it's rather handy once you get used to how to organize the folders and file names (Plex seems to prefer Files like "Movie Name (year)", and if there are any subtitles you just name them the same, TV series are usually "Show Name - s##e## - Optional Episode Name.avi")
But course now days a lot of people use stuff like netflix, hulu, crackle, etc, but plex is nice if it's something not available on those (plus it's free outside of the app for android/iOS/WindowsPhone).

External Storage Netflix/Play Movies Download

Does anyone know how to get a usb drive to work with the pixel so i can download netflix and google play movies to it? it seems that no matter how i format the drive, netflix and google play movies does not recognize it as external storage and i can not download to it.
to the best of my knowledge they will only look for internal storage locations for allowing the files to download. I don't think there is a way to split a drive into internal/external that the phone will accept. it has to be one or the other when formated.
Damn. Yeah no matter how I format it as internal or external, netflix only sees internal. Same with Google play movies

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