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Two threads confusing

Why is there TWO developemnt threads. Which is the one to use. Very confusing.

because this makes it easier to find which kind of development your searching for as original mean AOSP,GM9 , KERNELS, miui and other original stuffs and not only zipedited roms like touchwiz roms where the rom maker just added stuff they liked without buildning from scratch

It was done to separate real development threads from photoshop and winzip roms.

Read this: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
And deal with it.

I don't like it, in my opinion. Real dev threads were naturally on the top of the development forums, its not like you had to go digging. Now its just multiple clicks to check on what ROMs are available and adds more forums to the 120341230123 amount of forums on XDA.

wanna know the difference with some funny screenshots? here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612

better stick with original. here is trueeeeeee developer.

ascariz said:
better stick with original. here is trueeeeeee developer.
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wrong logic mate!! both developers/cookers contribute to the community just in a different way...

Why checkrom evohd v3 is in original android dev section? It's samsung based rom!

There is only one original and that is Cyanogenmod (they build from scratch). The rest are samsung or CM9 derivates. Correct me if i am wrong

gee2012 said:
There is only one original and that is Cyanogenmod (they build from scratch). The rest are samsung or CM9 derivates. Correct me if i am wrong
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Nope AOKP is also built from source like Cyanogenmod..
Wait... AOKP should be in the original section..I think

gee2012 said:
There is only one original and that is Cyanogenmod (they build from scratch). The rest are samsung or CM9 derivates. Correct me if i am wrong
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You're mostly right, but it's difficult where to draw the line. AFAIK AOKP for instance, also uses the AOSP source code, but incorporates many (if not all) CM9 features. So, is it based on CM9 or AOSP? You see what I mean?
I think it's safe to say that the original developers build their stuff from source (either pure AOSP or CM9 as a base), whereas most other developers use winzip (or extract APK's, but not using the source code). That's why I can understand why Checkrom is in the original section (using a self-made OTA tool). But it's mostly subjective and difficult to judge what goes where...

It is only confusing when it seems that certain roms should be in the opposite section and vice versa.

Nabobalis said:
It is only confusing when it seems that certain roms should be in the opposite section and vice versa.
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most of the kitchen roms will end up in original section as it has something unique apart from the samsung rom stuffs

123shree said:
Nope AOKP is also built from source like Cyanogenmod..
Wait... AOKP should be in the original section..I think
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AOKp on our sgs3 is dead

It would be nice if they were named . AOSP based Development, Samsung based development. The mix is all wrong at the moment.
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Why is this thread in a development section?
Should be in general
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Moved to General, there is a portal post here about the issue.
Keep the discussion on topic and civilized and this thread will stay open.

Running make doesn't make (heh) your work original.
So if I went and grabbed the CM9 repo and built it my subsequent ROM wouldn't be original. If I'd made lots of changes to the source code then built it, it would be original.
How is it you lot struggle with what the word "original" means, I don't get it.
As for whichever idiot said "IT'S TOO MUNNY CLICKZ", what? It's one extra click you numpty.

CheckROM should be in Original. Why? Apart from being the first to materialize Kitchen on ROMS (Kudos to Leomar), the team do also have its own Kernel which is the DarkKnight.

[REQUIRED] BETA Testers for my upcoming Kernel

Hello,
Introductions: I am a 15yr old Kernel Developer. Mainly for Samsung Devices. Hacking Kernels and programming is my hobby
I planned to maintain a Kernel for Galaxy NOTE N7000. However, I do not own the device and I want some BETA Testers who can help in testing out my initial Kernel builds.
Testers should-
-Know how to use adb, pull logcats
-And pull dmesg/kmsg logs for me
-Also, do some General Testing
You can have a look at my previous works by clicking links in my sig.
Interested testers, first post in the thread, then send me a PM :laugh:
Looking forward to maintaining some Good Kernels for this device :good:
Cheers, have a good day.

Dangerous lol do you know about the mmc_cap_erase bug for this device?
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Even more dangerous if you come to think of that the recovery on the Galaxy Note is baked into the kernel . So when your kernel is borked, your recovery will probably won't work too . Great!

I know about the eMMC bug, and that's the first thing I will get rid of before sending it to anyone for testing.
Edit: please stay on topic
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Your gonna brick a lot of phones of people that volunteer you need to get your own note and JTAG unit for resurrecting the many hard bricks in your future... what you need is some donations to get setup and do this properly. I would look into obtaining the funds to do this. Hats off to u for using your skills to build a kernel
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TO make things more clear,
I am using Samsungs Update 4 sources(As per Entropy512, it is safe) + clearing eMMC bug to prevent a hard brick.
If anyone wants to test send me a PM.
I do not want to go offtopic anymore, if nobody is volunteering to test. I will close up the thread.
Thanks.
All known Gingerbread kernels for the Galaxy Note and other affected devices listed above
Kernels built from the GT-I9100 Update4 source code release - this includes XplodWILD's CM9 release and my DAFUQ release, hopefully more kernel choices will become available soon
Kernels with MMC_CAP_ERASE removed from mshci.c should be safe - look for it in the listed features of any kernel based off of N7000 Update3. (N7000 Update3 source code without this change made to render it safe is dangerous.)
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A Sample commit of MMC_CAP_ERASE removed from my GT-I9103 KERNEL which uses same partitioning scheme.
[URL="https://github.com/franciscofranco/GT-N7000-ICS-3.0.y/commit/a1837cda4331d4822d8a3ba3caca8ff0d53f3b64"]Also, this commit by franco.
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hey Adi, thanks for coming to our community-- much appreciated ! Developing kernels for the Note has been a challenge.
if you deem it proper release your work openly to our members,
you will know by the number of downloads, and feedback in the thread if your work has been appreciated/accepted/lauded...
i would come forth to test but im not an expert. just a request, be open to feedback - share your focus - safety, overclocking, root , battery or all
thanks again.

rraaka said:
hey Adi, thanks for coming to our community-- much appreciated ! Developing kernels for the Note has been a challenge.
if you deem it proper release your work openly to our members,
you will know by the number of downloads, and feedback in the thread if your work has been appreciated/accepted/lauded...
i would come forth to test but im not an expert. just a request, be open to feedback - share your focus - safety, overclocking, root , battery or all
thanks again.
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I am always open to feedback! Now a couple of testers are ready to test.
My aim is to make a completely stable kernel, good and smooth , safe for daily use and make this device fly.
I have completely disabled the MMC Brick bug, will send the Kernel for testing to my BETA Testers, once it is good enough for a Release I will post this in the Android Dev. section. I thought of posting this here because I didn't want to pollute Android Dev. section.
Thanks!

make a thread in orignal development section maybe you get much more attention there..
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No offence but you shouldn't have written that you are 15.
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SuperMane said:
No offence but you shouldn't have written that you are 15.
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Yeah, makes me feel like a complete waste of space !:crying::crying:
Coz I'm 17 with absolutely no real contribution to XDA.

Android 4.2 for Xperia 2011

I recently heard that FXP will stop developing for the whole Xperia 2011 series, when just around the corner, Android 4.2 was standing with a bag of goodies, for which FXP has a valid reason, that these devices lack ram to support features of 4.2. I decided to build 4.2 from source for 2011 devices, for those who'd want to try out the latest version of android. I can handle compiling ROM. But need some help with kernel. if you can help out, or if you wanna be a part of the project. Leave a comment at this thread or PM me. After public release, Dev's can submit their patches / fixes for the ROM to that thread....
I do this because i don't want us to be stuck with stock based ROMs forever and because 4.2 looks awesome . All in all, Thankyou FXP for your work.

one thing that our xperia 2011 devices (especially neo/v ) lack is kernel developers ,we dont have linux 3.0 kernel which which would have made the user experience of JB 4.1 or 4.2 better , linux 3.0 supports many advanced features of JB ,but due to lack of these kernels our user experience will be incomplete , building & testing out these kernels will take hell of time and patience.
i hope this doesn't disappoint's any user or dev just a suggestion
linux 3.0 kernels would be awesome on our phones
i wish you all the best for taking such a great project

vimjam said:
one thing that our xperia 2011 devices (especially neo/v ) lack is kernel developers ,we dont have linux 3.0 kernel which which would have made the user experience of JB 4.1 or 4.2 better , linux 3.0 supports many advanced features of JB ,but due to lack of these kernels our user experience will be incomplete , building & testing out these kernels will take hell of time and patience.
i hope this doesn't disappoint's any user or dev just a suggestion
linux 3.0 kernels would be awesome on our phones
i wish you all the best for taking such a great project
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look here https://github.com/ExPeacer/CAF_android-msm-3.0/commits/master
progres stoped for 1 Month dont know what is problem , can you resume it ?
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emwno said:
I recently heard that FXP will stop developing for the whole Xperia 2011 series, when just around the corner, Android 4.2 was standing with a bag of goodies. I decided to build 4.2 from source for 2011 devices. I can handle compiling ROM. But need some help with kernel. if you can help out, or if you wanna be a part of the project. Leave a comment at this thread or PM me. After public release, Dev's can submit their patches / fixes for the ROM to that thread....
I do this because i don't want us to be stuck with stock based ROMs forever.
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officaly thay will stop at january 2013

Guys atleast try to make the linux kernel
I can be the tester of any Rom/kernel
If you want!
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XtremeSilencer said:
Guys atleast try to make the linux kernel
I can be the tester of any Rom/kernel
If you want!
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all andoid kernel are linux (andoid is based on linux )

I want to participate in, I am not a dev but I can test all ROM fast and give ideas

n1kolaa said:
all andoid kernel are linux (andoid is based on linux )
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I meant linux 3.0
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I don't really need any testers if that's what your saying. I need people who can work, who can help me out.

emwno said:
I don't really need any testers if that's what your saying. I need people who can work, who can help me out.
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then pm peaple like jader maxio fxp zackconsole pandemic ... i hope you accomplish this project!!

XtremeSilencer said:
then pm peaple like jader maxio fxp zackconsole pandemic ... i hope you accomplish this project!!
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1. I'm not forcing any one to work on this
2. Jader, Maxio, pandemic are all greats devs but they build themes / stock, and I need help with kernel building
3. I was planning to ask FXP for some sources
4. Zack already has his hands full, look at his work.

+1

+1

emwno said:
1. I'm not forcing any one to work on this
2. Jader, Maxio, pandemic are all greats devs but they build themes / stock, and I need help with kernel building
3. I was planning to ask FXP for some sources
4. Zack already has his hands full, look at his work.
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Hey. Why cant u ask nobodyatall. Aka naa. He has brought minicm10 to 2010 xperia Minis. Which is more stable than our cm10. I can help you with patches once you start compiling Rom. Cheers.
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+1

+1
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yeah the +1 counter thread

I would like to help, though I'm not of that much use YET.
Right now I'm mainly into developing apps, currently learning myself the basics of Kernel Development, I'm also capable of compiling Android.
Going to mess around a bit today, haven't compiled Android for my Xperia Pro yet.
Dympy.

Ok so.. Half way through compiling it failed, because of low storage or something. I read up online and found out that I need atleast 30gigs for compiling, where as I only have around 15-20 free on my laptop, lol unlucky I guess.. So project delayed - until I get more storage for my pc or if someone compiles for me if I give them the sources (if want 4.2 faster). And as for the kernel, instead of building a kernel (which may take long). I'll be modifying the current JB kernel for 4.2
~emwno

emwno said:
Ok so.. Half way through compiling it failed, because of low storage or something. I read up online and found out that I need atleast 30gigs for compiling, where as I only have around 15-20 free on my laptop, lol unlucky I guess.. So project delayed - until I get more storage for my pc or if someone compiles for me if I give them the sources (if want 4.2 faster). And as for the kernel, instead of building a kernel (which may take long). I'll be modifying the current JB kernel for 4.2
~emwno
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I'm almost done with re-setting up my Linux Install, it got wiped when I installed Windows 8 on my laptop..
Anyway, I have about 800GB of storage left, if you sent me a PM with some directions and such, I'll try to compile when the install is done.
Dympy.

emwno first dev to go for 4.2
you rock
+1 pleease

leaked firmware

what leaked Rom should i go for aokp jb aosp aokp jb milestone 1 out of them what is the best Rom to go for and if there is any other Rom that look like nexus jb and is better Ron let me know sorry for my bad English

You need to read some more.... none of those are leaked firmwares.... Also asking which one you should go with is my allowed. Test them out for yourself. And everyone else who reads this thread. Don't give him answers to which is the 'best'. There isn't a best ROM.
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Were can i get the jb aokp Rom sorry if i am asking for to much

By searching, looking in development...
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All the Roms are good because someone has taken time and alot of effort to make them, No Such Thing as The Best Rom
Everyone has different preferences so the choice is entirely up to you.
Common sense & research will give you the answer you need, and remember without the dev's there would be no Rom's
:good:

Use the search function and read about all the ROM available and their current state to find what you want.

I'll be kind to get you started, check out this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943391 and read the first few posts (see if you like all the features the ROM has). It's a mix of AOKP, AOSP (CM10) and ParanoidAndroid settings to have per app dpi, follow the steps to flash it if you like what you see.
Note: There are lots of polished ROMs out there but I'm using it and I like it, so it all goes down to your preferences in the end

Wasn't this locked?
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You could read all about it here, mate. A very good all in one thread by siberian tiger http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286

closed, try them and see

Aosp roms discussion thread. [Minor FAQ inside]

This thread is for discussing aosp roms, like Slim, Carbon, etc. except for CM though since it has its own thread. This is meant to keep the unhelping chit-chatter out of the development threads where bug reports best reside. When posting here, clarify what aosp rom you're on. Do not post bug reports here, post them in their respective development threads!
One more thing! While this thread progresses, use search and/or read the faq to see if your question has already been posted before, to avoid repetitiveness and us older lads becoming grumpy.
F.A.Q: (frequently asked questions)
I would like to dualboot, what should I do?
Flash siyah kernel
Help! I flashed siyah and now my rom doesn't boot!
It's because whatever rom you use has a newer mali driver which most kernels aren't updated for. Especially siyah which hasn't seen some dev love in ages.
What rom should I flash?
We don't know, you have to try them out yourself!
What's gapps, and is this inside xx rom?
Gapps is short for google apps, which is the Play store and some other apps you sorely need. Go too http://goo.im/gapps and download the gapps package for whatever version you have. Newer aosp roms are most certainly 4.2.2. Some roms, like Slim, have their own separate gapps packages specially made for those roms. In those cases, the standard gapps from goo.im will not work!
Help! I flashed xx rom but now it doesn't boot!
Try making a factory reset in the recovery and reflash whatever rom you were on. Also, in most cases, CWM works better for rom installations. Twrp craps out for unknown reasons.
Help! I wiped data and reflashed the rom but it still doesn't boot!
That sounds like a rom issue. Try flashing an earlier version of the rom.
Help! Something screwed up and now my phone doesn't boot anymore!
Well, reboot into recovery and see if a reflash helps. It is always recommended to regularly keep your system backed up in case something nasty happens. Perform a nandroid backup every once in a while.
What is a nandroid backup?
It's like a screenshot of your current state which you can return to if something bad happens. A nandroid backup backs up the system, boot (kernel) and data and, if specified/selectable, it also backs up cache and recovery. Maybe even efs (in twrp). However, it doesn't back up the modem!
I flashed xx kernel and I now get a black screen upon reboot!
That is because the rom you flashed has the new mali driver from the 4.2.1 leak and the kernel you flashed isn't updated with this driver. Stay on the provided kernel for now.
Thanks to:
I forgot to give thanks where due, and I'm so sorry for that. If I got an advice from you, hit me up and your name goes on this list.
C_tho; for mentioning the mali driver stuff.
Noble Sir Slaphead20; for suggesting I'd maintain an FAQ and suggesting I'd make an entry covering gapps.

great..let me fire up first noob ?...other than siyah any other kernel supports dual boot of cm & sammy rom/ cm or aokp...
edit i know its kernel ? but still related to cm or aokp...

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kevinarjun said:
great..let me fire up first noob ?...other than siyah any other kernel supports dual boot of cm & sammy rom/ cm or aokp...
edit i know its kernel ? but still related to cm or aokp...
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Nope, only siyah
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@Theshawty....maybe as the thread develops you can add a FAQ?

kevinarjun said:
great..let me fire up first noob ?...other than siyah any other kernel supports dual boot of cm & sammy rom/ cm or aokp...
edit i know its kernel ? but still related to cm or aokp...
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Only Siyah, and Siyah only supports the older aosp roms.
Speaking of aosp, I just had an urge to flash Carbon. Think I'll do it, because I'm a bit bored of running touchwiz and I've run CM for so long I need change. I didn't like RootBox that much (too many settings, lol. I like a "leaner" setup) and there's no official aokp for our device. I also didn't like Slim, so I'll give Carbon another go.
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Nope, only siyah
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@Theshawty....maybe as the thread develops you can add a FAQ?
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Yeah, I had in mind to add a smaller faq.

would suggest you also try JellyBam...

kevinarjun said:
would suggest you also try JellyBam...
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not gonna happen
jellybam isnt a welcome rom here

kevinarjun said:
would suggest you also try JellyBam...
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DSA said:
not gonna happen
jellybam isnt a welcome rom here
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What DSA said. We do not welcome JellyBam here anymore because the developer broke a lot of rules of XDA. Plagiarism and violating the gpl, amongst others.
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I updated the op with a small faq. More to come in the following days.

In the Faqs it might be worth mentioning in the gapps bit that some Roms ie slim, have their own gapps, and others won't work

Just flashed Carbon 1.5, not regretting it thus far! This ROM gives the word buttery smooth a whole new meaning!
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Not sure this goes here, but ill give it a go anyways.
In the Slimbean thread there was a lot of talk about mali drivers. Now could someone please give me some info on the matter cause seems like I missed something.
Basicly what im wondering is whats up with the mali drivers and why do I want them?
Sorry if this is off-topic or has been answered somewhere else.
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looking to switch to a AOSP ROM, what do you think about Super Nexus? Seems like the definition of AOSP

Glebun said:
looking to switch to a AOSP ROM, what do you think about Super Nexus? Seems like the definition of AOSP
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Slim is definitely worth a go as well

slaphead20 said:
Slim is definitely worth a go as well
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Agreed, running it now with no problems.
Carbon is nice as well..
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Jns said:
Not sure this goes here, but ill give it a go anyways.
In the Slimbean thread there was a lot of talk about mali drivers. Now could someone please give me some info on the matter cause seems like I missed something.
Basicly what im wondering is whats up with the mali drivers and why do I want them?
Sorry if this is off-topic or has been answered somewhere else.
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They fix the graphics glitches and completely without memory leaks.
Glebun said:
looking to switch to a AOSP ROM, what do you think about Super Nexus? Seems like the definition of AOSP
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I think you should give Carbon a try, it's THE definition of buttery smooth and come with some neat customization.
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Glebun said:
looking to switch to a AOSP ROM, what do you think about Super Nexus? Seems like the definition of AOSP
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The only problem with SuperNexus is it is updated very slowly. Also Faryaab has exams to do now, so it will not get updated at least until he is done with them.
If you want a super light rom I would reccomend SlimBean it's fast, and light, battery is acceptable, and it's easy to change settings like screen density and navbar settings without having to edit build.prop and decompile framework-res.apk, which you will have to do on SuperNexus.

what about the smoothness of it?

Another one there to vouch for Carbon, running it on both phone and tablet
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I love AOSP Roms and thank you for starting this thread. Unfortunately I am afraid that I can't use such Roms as a daily driver because of the camera problems. Bluetooth also seems to be a problem for some users.

Guys I am facing Memory leak problem with the Slim bean 4.2.2.....is it normal? cant seems to find any solution....

you'd be better off asking in the slim thread