Anyone know how to get permanent root?What i mean by permanent is when i reboot the phone i still have it.
I usually update to D107 then root phone using one click root method,install magic aosp rom,go to SuperUser(which i placed in /system/app folder) it ask me to update to newest version,i click ok and it works,i get root access in Estrong File Manager and other root apps,i can delete and modify /system folder from Estrong file manager.
After reboot i go to Estrong file manager and it doesnt work any more,SuperUser looses its update and any root app i install after reeboot dont get SuperUser prompt for root access anymore.And if i try to update SuperUser it says that update was successful but at the bottom i don't see new version.I still get root if i adb shell su,but on android i don't get asked for su anymore and i dont think i have root on the phone.Can anyone post step by step instruction for getting "permanent root",Thanx in advance.
I think you do have root, but the issue is that root has to be re-enabled after every reboot (it is done automatically and doesn't require user intervention). Don't ask me why, but that seems to be how root in the Epic currently works with the jk method. The superuser app will work only the after it is installed, and subsequent to a reboot, will loses its ability to control permissions, and any new apps that need (or want) to get superuser status will do so without a prompt from the superuser app, which could be bad depending on the app.
Check this thread where they found a work around: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788939
jokarak said:
I think you do have root, but the issue is that root has to be re-enabled after every reboot (it is done automatically and doesn't require user intervention). Don't ask me why, but that seems to be how root in the Epic currently works with the jk method. The superuser app will work only the after it is installed, and subsequent to a reboot, will loses its ability to control permissions, and any new apps that need (or want) to get superuser status will do so without a prompt from the superuser app, which could be bad depending on the app.
Check this thread where they found a work around: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788939
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Thanx man,that definetly looked promising but dint fix the problem.I wondrer if its just certain phones that have this problem because I don't see many people complaining or is it just certain roms and kernels.
lviv73 said:
Thanx man,that definetly looked promising but dint fix the problem.I wondrer if its just certain phones that have this problem because I don't see many people complaining or is it just certain roms and kernels.
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Hey bro, this is what i did because last night i installed the mix kernel and was getting to many dropped calls even in voicemail.
I re-flashed my epic to complete stock, i then ran the Andro/koush one-click method to get clockwork recovery. Then i flashed the Bub's AOSP Magic rom, now i tried to install Andro kernel to get superuser but this didn't work (couldn't gain root), so then i removed superuser.apk and install fluff kernel power saver one and have perm root.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...uffkernel-epic-4g-version-1-0-1-2-8-1-mflops/
If i remember correctly those was the steps i did.
mykenyc said:
Hey bro, this is what i did because last night i installed the mix kernel and was getting to many dropped calls even in voicemail.
I re-flashed my epic to complete stock, i then ran the Andro/koush one-click method to get clockwork recovery. Then i flashed the Bub's AOSP Magic rom, now i tried to install Andro kernel to get superuser but this didn't work (couldn't gain root), so then i removed superuser.apk and install fluff kernel power saver one and have perm root.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...uffkernel-epic-4g-version-1-0-1-2-8-1-mflops/
If i remember correctly those was the steps i did.
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Thanx man,that fixed my root,you saved me alot of trouble,i guess it was the kernel.Oh and the fluff kernel is probably the smoothest kernel i used so far,now my root is there all the time,thanx again.
Ok, so I'm trying to root my phone via the guide, however I'm hitting a major snag.
and this happens with either visionary or z4root. whenever i run them to temp root to start off with the instructions, they either cause the phone to completely reboot and then it is painfully slow. like so slow that i swipe the screen to goto another home screen and have to wait for it to catch up. end with me having to pull the battery and starting over. this has happened several times in a row and is starting to make my head hurt from the frustration.
now, if either app comes back with the "you are now temporarily rooted" success screen and i hit the home button. it seems i still don't have root. for example, if i run z4root and hit the temp root button. it'll do its thing. give me the success screen. i hit home. but if i go back into the z4root, it says "temp root" or "perm root" again. not "reroot" like it should. also checked with titanium backup and it says i do not have root access despite z4root just saying it was successful. Same thing happens with visionary as well.
so i'm stuck. what is going on that is keeping it from temp rooting? i'd like to be able to perm root the thing and be done with it.
also doesnt help that with every boot i have to sit through that long as hell 4g boot screen. why is that so long?
still trying to figure this out. tried rooting while in airplane mode, didnt work. tried doing a normal reboot twice in a row without trying to root in order to get as clean of a boot as possible. figured a reboot from an already normally booted phone was as good as it was going to get. still, the temp root either resets the phone where it becomes slower than a snail in ice. or it "says" it's temp rooted but yet any app that needs root says "unable to obtain root access" or "this will only work on a rooted phone". ugh.
When I temp rooted with Visionary and tried to load Titanium, I couldn't either. I clicked problems and downloaded busybox. Seemed to work after that.
that sort of worked. The first time it didn't do anything. kept saying no root access. so i hit the "unroot" button in vinsionary and let it reboot and then tried temp rooting again and it worked after i did the "problems?" option. So thanks for that tip. gonna leave my phone rooted like this till i get home where i can perm root it.
Uninstall Z4, Visionary, and Superuser
Reboot
Reinstall Visionary
Run temproot
Verify Superuser is present
open Titanium Backup and if you still are having issues click on the problems button as previously selected
got it working! and now I'm permanently rooted. thank you all!!
viperv303 said:
got it working! and now I'm permanently rooted. thank you all!!
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Awesome! Congrats
Hey guys, noob here and am kind of hung up...
I d/l TB from the Market some time ago, I used it maybe 2 or 3 times to go through and delete a few unwanted apps. I went through a little tough period where I accidentally deleted 'Google Talk', I found the apk's and fixed that whole issue; however it seems ever since that incident TB will not fire up (correctly). It is telling me it cannot get root access (though I KNOW my phone is rooted). When I goto Problems>Get Busy Box it seems to d/l, but then I get an Error at the top of my device stating that it failed and to see the website for more trouble shooting. I have un-installed TB, re-installed and still noooo luck.
Does anyone have any idea whats going on? Thanks in advance!
Open superuser, tap on TB and "forget " su access. Reboot. Reopen TB and grant su access again.
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Open superuser, tap on TB and "forget " su access. Reboot. Reopen TB and grant su access again.
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Oddly enough it doesn't show any Apps on the 'apps' tab in su?
Hmmmm... looks As if my phone may not be rooted any longer? I originally did it through z4root, and now that app isn't in the market.. am I missing something here?
Think it was that EA28 update that did all this. Trying to figure out how to manually root now.
Probably the easiest way to get back to a stock rooted image would be to download an odin image and install it that way. Or are you trying to just get root access back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867648 - DI01
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956289 - EB01
The EA28 does remove root access. I tested it on my wife's Fascinate.
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Probably the easiest way to get back to a stock rooted image would be to download an odin image and install it that way. Or are you trying to just get root access back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867648 - DI01
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956289 - EB01
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Seems weird man, I actually downloaded CWMRecovery_DJ05_DL09.tar.md5, flashed it via Odin....went to settings>>about phone>>and still shows I am running EA28...
Any idea what I may be doing wrong?
EDIT: Another thing I noticed is when i go into Boot Recovery (using vol down+up+power, wait till 2nd samsung logo, vol d...the text is blue, when I hit apply sd:update.zip it goes to red and says its VoodooLagFix at the top?? This was supposed to be an update.zip that got me rooted+busybox... I am getting alittle confused here lol
Awesome !! Got EB01, Froyo 2.2 with Super Clean 2.4... thanks a lot man. My first custom ROM ever haha
You will have to try out Super Clean 2.5! It is compiled of nearly 75% of EB16 source code. The 2.4 I have had some battery life issues. About 12-14 hours tops on a full charge. I am hoping that super clean 2.5 will help with the issue. It might be something to look into.
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You will have to try out Super Clean 2.5! It is compiled of nearly 75% of EB16 source code. The 2.4 I have had some battery life issues. About 12-14 hours tops on a full charge. I am hoping that super clean 2.5 will help with the issue. It might be something to look into.
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i will keep an eye out. Like stated this is all relatively new to me, but boy am I impressed with the speed opposed to my stock 2.1 eclair I was running just an hour ago! lol
Currently Running Miui 2.7.1.3 i believe the numbers are, whichever the latest version of the rom is. It installed no problem, was merely updating to try to fix theme issues from 2.6, and here is where the problem begins:
So i was browsing my phone and realised that i didn't have superuser on there, wondering why because usually every rom i ever ran had it automatically on there, installed it off of another site, the elite version, and from there everything got screwed up, i don't know what happened or why it started but, i could no longer run busybox, TBU, setcpu, nothing that requires root, due to the fact that superuser was denying root. I had no clue why, i've been reading threads for hours similar to "Superuser denying root" and such, and to no avail, the problem is still there, i have set superuser to both prompt and allow when asking for root, and neither worked, so i figured a clean fresh reflash of MIUI would help, however even after wiping and a clean install, root does not work, ive read some articles describing to just unroot and root again however it's been so long since ive rooted a phone, can anyone direct me to the best way to do this without having to do an ODIN and set up my phone allover again, keep in mind that it is still S-Off. What am i doing wrong?
I also have tried to clear data for superuser, as well as install multiple versions, neither have worked.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
ROBLEM SOLVED:
To those with similar problems to this who have ruled out other reasons, described in this thread, abandon Superuser and download SuperSU instead, it fixed my problem.
Odin is for Samsung Phones and if u lost root redownload the rom or Google super user and download the binaries and just flash them.
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I tried all that, anyway im in the middle of a stock restore right now and trying to reroot but stuck at the damn visionary step >.<
I am now stuck with S-on and back in a stock rom, downgraded, and visionary still doesnt work, i give up
Try gfree method
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You're very likely doing so much wrong..
MIUI has an option in settings - "allow superuser privileges". You didn't turn it on, and it's off by default. That's it. And from there you went to a whole new level of going the wrong way.
No amount of restoring to stock and re-rooting can help you. Root privileges aren't phone-specific, they're ROM-specific, and relevant only for the ROM currently on the phone. Reflash the ROM with something else - and existence or inexistence of root will depend on this "something else". Thus I fail to understand, what were you looking for when restoring to stock. It was as irrelevant as could possibly be.
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You're very likely doing so much wrong..
MIUI has an option in settings - "allow superuser privileges". You didn't turn it on, and it's off by default. That's it. And from there you went to a whole new level of going the wrong way.
No amount of restoring to stock and re-rooting can help you. Root privileges aren't phone-specific, they're ROM-specific, and relevant only for the ROM currently on the phone. Reflash the ROM with something else - and existence or inexistence of root will depend on this "something else". Thus I fail to understand, what were you looking for when restoring to stock. It was as irrelevant as could possibly be.
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I believe you got two troubleshootings steps backwards.
After you have searched and exhausted every troubleshooting step you found (which obviously wasn't thorough), you should have posted in the MIUI thread about the problem. They might have scolded you a little before answering, but you would have gotten your answer.
Flashing back to stock is ALWAYS your last resort. It should only be done after scouring the web for answers, then asking for the answer, and when there is no other alternative - FroYo PD15IMG.zip.
Jack is blunt, but as he's as right as always.
I'm not one to deny mistakes, that sure was stupid of me not to look, i guess i just thought there were deeper problems than just the rom having it turned off, anyway i'm doing the downgrade now and it should work, thank you for the help its appreciated
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You're very likely doing so much wrong..
MIUI has an option in settings - "allow superuser privileges". You didn't turn it on, and it's off by default. That's it. And from there you went to a whole new level of going the wrong way.
No amount of restoring to stock and re-rooting can help you. Root privileges aren't phone-specific, they're ROM-specific, and relevant only for the ROM currently on the phone. Reflash the ROM with something else - and existence or inexistence of root will depend on this "something else". Thus I fail to understand, what were you looking for when restoring to stock. It was as irrelevant as could possibly be.
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Could you point me to this "allow superuser privileges"? I have restored with recovery and have yet to find such a setting.
If you are referring to the permission guard, it allows everything, and there is no setting to simply turn it on
No, not this one. It's been some time since I sold my Nexus One, which was running MIUI back at the time, but I understand that in the newer MIUI there is an app or setting, called LBC guard, which controls both Superuser access and app permissions. Try looking it up.
P.S. I remember CM team member post, saying that the newer CM9 also come with root privileges turned off by default, because they decided it's a safer way.
Right, and the Permission Guard is run by LBC guard, there is no way to set anything different from what i have, i believe its a problem with the busybox binaries and superuser binaries, i'm trying to use this SuperSU instead of superuser to see if that will work. If i remember correctly before all this happened i may have hit uninstall busybox by accident and that may be why its not working, could be that ive never had busybox working and haven't been able to install it due to the SU problem
EDIT: Yes i have solved it now, SuperSU actually makes the prompts for superuser come up now, im using it instead of superuser entirely, must be deeper problems with original superuser
If you had SuperSU installed on the system and additionally installed the regular Superuser, or the other way around - these two are incompatible on binaries AFAIK, and mixing the applications without cleaning up the build and using the correct binary could cause what you were experiencing.
Yes your probably correct only i had two separate versions of superuser that didnt overwrite and that must be where the binaries got messed up
The 1st thing I usually do when I install a new rom, is install SuperSU, update the binaries then I use Titanium to uninstall Superuser.
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Currently Running Miui 2.7.1.3 i believe the numbers are, whichever the latest version of the rom is. It installed no problem, was merely updating to try to fix theme issues from 2.6, and here is where the problem begins:
So i was browsing my phone and realised that i didn't have superuser on there, wondering why because usually every rom i ever ran had it automatically on there, installed it off of another site, the elite version, and from there everything got screwed up, i don't know what happened or why it started but, i could no longer run busybox, TBU, setcpu, nothing that requires root, due to the fact that superuser was denying root. I had no clue why, i've been reading threads for hours similar to "Superuser denying root" and such, and to no avail, the problem is still there, i have set superuser to both prompt and allow when asking for root, and neither worked, so i figured a clean fresh reflash of MIUI would help, however even after wiping and a clean install, root does not work, ive read some articles describing to just unroot and root again however it's been so long since ive rooted a phone, can anyone direct me to the best way to do this without having to do an ODIN and set up my phone allover again, keep in mind that it is still S-Off. What am i doing wrong?
I also have tried to clear data for superuser, as well as install multiple versions, neither have worked.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
ROBLEM SOLVED:
To those with similar problems to this who have ruled out other reasons, described in this thread, abandon Superuser and download SuperSU instead, it fixed my problem.
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Anyone else with this problem go in the permissions app and enable root as miui uses its own root for security reasons.
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MIUI uses a customized superuser app. Use it and follow the instructions. Cnote ports the ROM. He knows what he's talking about.
Hello, I am a newbie and looking for a miracle. I am going to apologize for the length of this message in advance. Couple days ago I perm rooted the HTC Glacier Mytouch 4g using the instructions at //wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_glacier . As instructed, I downgraded the software to 1.17.531.2 and then perm rooted with S-Off on the device. Then, I installed the cyanogenMod 7.2.0-glacier (stable version) with the google apps. Everything worked great and was happy.
Right after I installed AdFree from Googleplay, I had issues but problem may not be caused by this app. Googleplay gave me a message of an “error no connection”. I got a message that the “ADWLauncher failed to launch” over and over again which prevented me from doing anything else. I was able to reboot the phone in between the notifications of the ADWLauncher failure. When I was back up and running, I got the same message of Googleplay “error no connection” and ADW failure very quick after start up. I pulled the battery and did a hard power up (volume down plus power button at same time). This is when things got worse. The Hboot starts up and wants to update, which I did but then I could not choose recovery mode to install a backup. If I choose not to update Hboot, then I only have the option to restart the phone. I can see on top of the screen “Glacier PVT SHIP S-OFF” .
Wait – things get worse. I am no longer running the cyanogenmod ROM but am back to the downgraded ROM 1.17.531.2. I still can’t download from googleplay because I get the message “Error no connection”, even though I am running on the old ROM. I can’t download apps from the phone, but I can push apps to phone from my googleplay account. I did push the ROM Manager app to the phone. When I start the ROM Manager, I get the message “You must root phone for ROM to function. Superuser was not found at “/system/bin/su” or “/system/xbin/su”.
I tried to start the recovery through adb using “adb reboot recovery”, but I get a power off symbol (a red circle) and phone freezes. I need to pull the battery to reboot.
Again sorry for the length. I am hoping for a miracle. Since I can’t do anything in the hard power up mode, I need to find a way to fix through adb or fastboot. Does anyone know how to get the Superuser installed through adb or fastboot? Is there a way to flash another custom ROM that has a superuser installed through adb or fastboot?
BTW. Gmail works fine.
thanks
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Hello, I am a newbie and looking for a miracle. I am going to apologize for the length of this message in advance. Couple days ago I perm rooted the HTC Glacier Mytouch 4g using the instructions at //wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_glacier . As instructed, I downgraded the software to 1.17.531.2 and then perm rooted with S-Off on the device. Then, I installed the cyanogenMod 7.2.0-glacier (stable version) with the google apps. Everything worked great and was happy.
Right after I installed AdFree from Googleplay, I had issues but problem may not be caused by this app. Googleplay gave me a message of an “error no connection”. I got a message that the “ADWLauncher failed to launch” over and over again which prevented me from doing anything else. I was able to reboot the phone in between the notifications of the ADWLauncher failure. When I was back up and running, I got the same message of Googleplay “error no connection” and ADW failure very quick after start up. I pulled the battery and did a hard power up (volume down plus power button at same time). This is when things got worse. The Hboot starts up and wants to update, which I did but then I could not choose recovery mode to install a backup. If I choose not to update Hboot, then I only have the option to restart the phone. I can see on top of the screen “Glacier PVT SHIP S-OFF” .
Wait – things get worse. I am no longer running the cyanogenmod ROM but am back to the downgraded ROM 1.17.531.2. I still can’t download from googleplay because I get the message “Error no connection”, even though I am running on the old ROM. I can’t download apps from the phone, but I can push apps to phone from my googleplay account. I did push the ROM Manager app to the phone. When I start the ROM Manager, I get the message “You must root phone for ROM to function. Superuser was not found at “/system/bin/su” or “/system/xbin/su”.
I tried to start the recovery through adb using “adb reboot recovery”, but I get a power off symbol (a red circle) and phone freezes. I need to pull the battery to reboot.
Again sorry for the length. I am hoping for a miracle. Since I can’t do anything in the hard power up mode, I need to find a way to fix through adb or fastboot. Does anyone know how to get the Superuser installed through adb or fastboot? Is there a way to flash another custom ROM that has a superuser installed through adb or fastboot?
BTW. Gmail works fine.
thanks
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I would download a recovery image and use fastboot to install it. Maybe something is wrong with your recovery.
fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img
Then wipe system, do a factory reset, and wipe dalvik-cache before flashing a ROM. Also, re-download your ROM.
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I would download a recovery image and use fastboot to install it. Maybe something is wrong with your recovery.
fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img
Then wipe system, do a factory reset, and wipe dalvik-cache before flashing a ROM. Also, re-download your ROM.
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Thanks - I will need to try this later