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Hi guys
Had to make a new account for here as lost my old one.
I have a motorola defy mb525 on t.mobile completly standard and i want to update my android version as its stuck on 2.1 with no updates coming according to t mobile so am going to have to root and rom it i have done this before on a t mobile g2 touch and i had shed loads of problems and i dont wanna mess this phone up as dont.get a new one.till december so can anyone point me in the right way to get a better version of android on this? And if it messes up can i get it back to standard?

start from here. Almost everything is mentioned clearly.. Read and understand properly before doing anything. If troubled, just ask..
Happy Modding..

Thanks for that link
I've now rooted my defy and installed 2ndinit now unsure what to do, all i basically want is a better version of android on my defy but am getting confused with sbfs and recoverys etc can anyone help me out?

1. Dowload preferred rom
2. Go to stable/custom recovery from 2nd init
3. wipe data, cache, davlik cache.
4. Install zip from sdcard
5. Reboot
Done!!!
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Is that all i have to do? I've read about flashing sbfs and all sorts?
Also i installed 2ndinit and booted into it selected boot normal and now i can't get back into it i get a red triange again?
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Also when i use a new rom will i loose all my apps phone numbers etc?
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m0nk3yb0y94 said:
Is that all i have to do? I've read about flashing sbfs and all sorts?
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Flashing sbf is a different thing. Sbf's are flashed through RSDLite by connecting your phone to a pc..
Custom ROM's(flashable zip) are flashed through the phone recovery itself
.. Flashing a zip is a better way of doing it..
Also, while flashing, before doing a wipe, don't forget to make a backup from recovery..
m0nk3yb0y94 said:
Also when i use a new rom will i loose all my apps phone numbers etc?
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Yes.! You will lose your apps, if your contacts are synchronized with you google account, you can get those back after..but for apps , make backup with Titanium backup or Mybackup root etc. so that you can restore those back..
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Remove 2nd init

I need to get my defy back to stuck cause I'm having issues with the camera (it is always getting an error «cannot connect to camera») and I need to have it replace.
I restored nandroid of my original stock rom, removed 2nd init, unroot the device, I even factory reset and format my sd card.
Thing is when I turn the phone on, led blinks blue and if press volume down it goes to but menu, is there any option to remove that as well?
Can't flash full sbf because non of them is the same as my stuck rom and if they notice anything and they always check everything, I won't get the phone replace.
Thank you for helping me
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Any help?
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JakeOcn said:
Any help?
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just full SBF Help u. try
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordan/list.php

jalal-jap said:
just full SBF Help u. try
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordan/list.php
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Is there any other way to fix that? because my usb port is broken so I cant flash an sbf :/

In Bootmenu you have a option to remove it. Once you entered the bootmenu on blue led, goto System and choose to uninstall BootMenu.

[Q] Help With 2ndinit

I've rooted my wifes regular Defy (red lens). She'd like to try CM10 out, which I've been running for the past couple months on my Defy.
She's on stock T-Mobile US ROM and rooted. Installed Defy 2ndInit 2.3, granted it superuser permissions, clicked the install button, and was told "success" (green led was also on).
However, after rebooting her phone, the blue or green led never turns on like it does on my phone.
We've both been running custom ROM's for so long that I've not had to do this in a long time. Updating her from CM7 to CM10 didn't go well so I had to flash an SBF to her phone.
Any idea what I did wrong? Should I just try a different version?

Did you follow the instructions regarding USB debugging before installing 2ndinit?
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thekguy said:
Did you follow the instructions regarding USB debugging before installing 2ndinit?
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Yah, USB debugging is turned on. In fact, it won't even let you install the recovery if USB debugging isn't enabled.

All you can do is: full wipe and flash stock sbf. use the latest version of 2ndinit. Beyond that I have no ideas
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See thats the thing, I already flashed a stock SBF and used the latest version of 2ndinit.
I didn't do a full wipe prior because I was unable to enter custom recovery. Is there an option to do a full wipe in the stock recovery? I don't even recall how to get into it.

To enter stock recovery, press the volume up key while starting and hold. when you see a background hold both volume keys to get the menu for data wipe
IMO I think something is not getting wiped in the flash. You can try a legacy version of 2ndinit too. Select the ti blank flash option in rsdlite. Stock sbf+ data wipe + rooting is sufficient for 2ndinit. It certainly is a queer problem
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thekguy said:
To enter stock recovery, press the volume up key while starting and hold. when you see a background hold both volume keys to get the menu for data wipe
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My man! That's it. Was just going to search on how to do it but you saved me.
Will do this tonight and flash the stock sbf again and see if that helps.
Will report back to let you know if I get it working.

Ok; I'm off for a couple of hours too
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thekguy said:
Ok; I'm off for a couple of hours too
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OK, just to update you.
I guess I was using Android 2.1 SBF, which you can enter recovery on by touching the bottom-right of the screen.
Anyway, after updating to 2.2 OTA, I was able to get custom recovery installed via 2ndinit. So all is good.
My wife is now running CM10 like me.

tlongren said:
OK, just to update you.
I guess I was using Android 2.1 SBF, which you can enter recovery on by touching the bottom-right of the screen.
Anyway, after updating to 2.2 OTA, I was able to get custom recovery installed via 2ndinit. So all is good.
My wife is now running CM10 like me.
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if possible, could you share the process you followed with me? I am having a defy eclair MB525 and it's not going to the recovery mode on rebooting. It's stuck on the triangle.

niv_defy said:
if possible, could you share the process you followed with me? I am having a defy eclair MB525 and it's not going to the recovery mode on rebooting. It's stuck on the triangle.
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OK, if you want to get to stock recovery and you've already got the little android guy with the triangle on the screen, just touch the bottom right corner of your screen.
That should bring you into stock recovery if you're on eclair.
There's probably an OTA update available for you. To check for that, go to Settings, About Phone, and then Check For Updates (may be worded slightly different). I don't know if vodaphone ever did an update for the Defy though in India. But I suppose they probably did.

i have only four options available.
* Reboot System now
* Apply SDCard:update.zip
* Wipe data/factory reset
* Wipe Cache Partition
last night i tried with all the options and the only thing happened, just got all my data and app wiped. When I reboot the device, i got my eclair back and restored all the data using titanium. Am I doing something wrong here?
In fact, my device is not vodafone dependent. There are no updates available till date. In addition, i was trying to flash it using ICS CM10.

tlongren said:
OK, just to update you.
I guess I was using Android 2.1 SBF, which you can enter recovery on by touching the bottom-right of the screen.
Anyway, after updating to 2.2 OTA, I was able to get custom recovery installed via 2ndinit. So all is good.
My wife is now running CM10 like me.
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Glad to know you're up and running:good:

niv_defy said:
i have only four options available.
* Reboot System now
* Apply SDCard:update.zip
* Wipe data/factory reset
* Wipe Cache Partition
last night i tried with all the options and the only thing happened, just got all my data and app wiped. When I reboot the device, i got my eclair back and restored all the data using titanium. Am I doing something wrong here?
In fact, my device is not vodafone dependent. There are no updates available till date. In addition, i was trying to flash it using ICS CM10.
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OK, what exactly are you trying to do? Get custom recovery installed via 2ndinit?

PLEASE HELP. Boot loops to recovery

I installed the HORSEMAGEDDON ROM and it worked - for the most part. But it kept giving me annoying errors about different apps that were attempting to update every time I turned it on. So I tried to restore my backup that I had made with CWM 6.0.2.8. However the backup apparently did not restore properly because it now boot loops back into CWM any time I try to start it. I get the errors:
E:Can't open cache/recovery/log
E:Can't open cache/recovery/log
E:Can't open cache/recovery/last_log
E:Can't open cache/recovery/last_log
So I tried to reflash HORSEMAGEDDON but it still loops back into the CWM recovery screen.
I have wiped everything according to the instructions on the HORSEMAGEDDON thread.
HELP!! This happened to me on another U8800-51 phone and I wound up hard bricking it trying to get back to stock.

Anybody???
Does anybody have any ideas on how I can fix this?

Did you wipe cache/dalvik cache?
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iheartsamsung said:
Did you wipe cache/dalvik cache?
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Yes. I did a wipe of data and factory reset as well.

What I would do is get an SD card with a custom rom on it and try installing it from recovery menu
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Obviously you have been having problems with that rom, so go with something different.
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iheartsamsung said:
Obviously you have been having problems with that rom, so go with something different.
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Okay. Here is what I did step by step:
1. I was on Stock 2.2.2 Froyo and flashed HORSEMAGEDDON successfully. But I had some errors related to updates since it was such an old ROM the updates were all for much newer versions of the apps tied to 4.x.x.
2. I attempted to restore my backup made with CWM 6 to return to the stock. It said it completed successfully but when I rebooted it just looped into the recovery screen with the error messages posted in my first post.
3. So I tried to reflash HORSEMAGEDDON and it said it completed successfully. But it still bootloops into recovery.
4. I can access most of the features of the recovery. I can access the pink screen and swap recovery versions. I can access my SD card from my PC when I mount it from recovery.
5. Yes, I did do full wipes with each attempt to reflash.
The ROM was not the problem. It worked and worked well other than update issues for apps. It was only after attempting to restore to stock I ran into issues.
The problem appears to be something was corrupted when I tried to restore my backup, even though it said it completed successfully.
So if I try to flash yet another custom ROM, even if I could find one I trust given all of the version issues etc., I don't think it would act any differently. But if somebody can recommend one I am all ears. Keep in mind I have a -51 phone so it will have to be for that or the PRO.
Given that, how can I get back to stock? Am I the only person who has ever had this problem? I don't believe that is the case, so somebody must know how to fix it or can point me to a procedure to repair the internal memory.
Help!!

I'm new at xda so it's not letting me post an external link. Google "bootlooping" and the first one in list is from xda, just follow the instructions
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Thanks but.....
iheartsamsung said:
I'm new at xda so it's not letting me post an external link. Google "bootlooping" and the first one in list is from xda, just follow the instructions
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None of the fixes on this link seem to apply to my situation.
When I said "bootloop" I may have misused the term. What happens is I power up, it goes to logo screen for about 10 seconds, shuts down and restarts to logo screen then goes into recovery after about 5 seconds. From other info that I have found it is due to a corrupt bootloader and I need to reflash the bootloader. Problem is, reflashing the bootloader i.e. CWM, does no good at all.
I am also hampered by lack of info specific to the -51 model. And I cannot find a copy of the stock ROM anywhere that is for the -51.
So essentially I am screwed. All of that said, I have found a new phone for $40.00 so all is not lost. It's a U8800 but not the -51 or PRO. I don't plan on customizing it, I'll just stick with stock. After trashing two phones even after following the advice to "BACKUP" I think enough is enough. Backing up did me no good whatsoever in both cases.
In my estimation, the culprit is CWM, or at least the versions I used.
If anybody has any advice I'm all ears.

Can't upgrade from 2.2

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Help, I downgraded from 2.3 to 2.2 for various reasons,but now when I try to upgrade again I just get the pink screen ,if I try using the option from settings/storage,it says key data couldn't be backed up , the installation will stop. Also if I boot into the system it runs fine for about a minute then locks up completely so I can't even continue to use it in 2.2 can anyone advise ?
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Try to put the 2.3 dload folder to a sd card, then remove the battery, plug in a USB cable to the computer and the phone, volume up+down+power (if I remember right lol). See if it will update that way.

no, that's the usual way I've been flashing it, I can get to the image folder ,but it won't boot into recovery either
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totsy1972 said:
no, that's the usual way I've been flashing it, I can get to the image folder ,but it won't boot into recovery either
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Odd. Maybe try to flash the ICS pink screen unlocker? I had weird issues at some point too, then I flashed that and the problems went away. Afterwards flash ICS.

Just tried that,still no luck,it doesn't even get to the unpacking screen,it just stays pink. beginning to think its beyond repair
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totsy1972 said:
Just tried that,still no luck,it doesn't even get to the unpacking screen,it just stays pink. beginning to think its beyond repair
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I think it's still possible to fix it. I was loosing hopes too, but I messed around with it anyway and got it working. Just try different dload's, different methods and maybe you'll get it running. Maybe other users will have some ideas too.

CrysisLTU said:
I think it's still possible to fix it. I was loosing hopes too, but I messed around with it anyway and got it working. Just try different dload's, different methods and maybe you'll get it running. Maybe other users will have some ideas too.
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I've been trying all different ways, this is what I get when trying it from storage menu
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@Moihack maybe you have any ideas? You've written this to me before:
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As long as your phone still gets power and pink/blue screen shows there is nothing to be afraid of yet,since this isn't a hardbrick.
Contact me on hangouts telling me what you have done resulting in the above issue.
I have bricked my u8800pro in every possible way both soft and hard brick (thank god warranty was still active back then).
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Hi there!
I think when you upgrade from software menu there is an option for data back-up.
Uncheck this option and the error should go away.
Also what do you mean with this: "Also if I boot into the system it runs fine for about a minute then locks up" ?
What do you mean it locks up? Touchscreen is not responsive for example?
My suggestions:
1) Do a factory reset and then check if you can upgrade
2) Try re-installing your recovery(use cwm 5.0.27 by geno for best compatibility) or even replace the whole image folder with the froyo one from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146856
Your phone is not beyond repair that's for sure. Since it boots fine.

Moihack said:
Hi there!
I think when you upgrade from software menu there is an option for data back-up.
Uncheck this option and the error should go away.
Also what do you mean with this: "Also if I boot into the system it runs fine for about a minute then locks up" ?
What do you mean it locks up? Touchscreen is not responsive for example?
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I haven't noticed an option for data backup,will check again later on. And yes when it locks up touch screen becomes unresponsive and none of the buttons respond either. Also when I try to enter recovery ,both custom and stock, it displays the kernel logo then vibrates with a black screen for a second then back to kernel logo and continues to boot.
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Ok guys,I copied over the stock image folder and now it works ok, however I still can't upgrade from froyo. At least I can use it again though so thanks for your help, its much appreciated. Incidentally, there wasn't an option to back up data when upgrading, but that error has now gone, except it now just reboots instead, so I will just keep trying.
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[Edit] Finally I've managed to upgrade to GB , had to put both step 1 and step 2 in the same dload folder and it worked. So cheers for the tips

You've put all steps in one folder?

DarkSkyGhost said:
You've put all steps in one folder?
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Steps 1&2 in dload folder ,step 2 renamed to UPDATE_G.APP.
Didn't use step 3 as I was updating to ICS after that
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