Rooting and rom questions - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys
Had to make a new account for here as lost my old one.
I have a motorola defy mb525 on t.mobile completly standard and i want to update my android version as its stuck on 2.1 with no updates coming according to t mobile so am going to have to root and rom it i have done this before on a t mobile g2 touch and i had shed loads of problems and i dont wanna mess this phone up as dont.get a new one.till december so can anyone point me in the right way to get a better version of android on this? And if it messes up can i get it back to standard?

start from here. Almost everything is mentioned clearly.. Read and understand properly before doing anything. If troubled, just ask..
Happy Modding..

Thanks for that link
I've now rooted my defy and installed 2ndinit now unsure what to do, all i basically want is a better version of android on my defy but am getting confused with sbfs and recoverys etc can anyone help me out?

1. Dowload preferred rom
2. Go to stable/custom recovery from 2nd init
3. wipe data, cache, davlik cache.
4. Install zip from sdcard
5. Reboot
Done!!!
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Is that all i have to do? I've read about flashing sbfs and all sorts?
Also i installed 2ndinit and booted into it selected boot normal and now i can't get back into it i get a red triange again?
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Also when i use a new rom will i loose all my apps phone numbers etc?
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m0nk3yb0y94 said:
Is that all i have to do? I've read about flashing sbfs and all sorts?
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Flashing sbf is a different thing. Sbf's are flashed through RSDLite by connecting your phone to a pc..
Custom ROM's(flashable zip) are flashed through the phone recovery itself
.. Flashing a zip is a better way of doing it..
Also, while flashing, before doing a wipe, don't forget to make a backup from recovery..
m0nk3yb0y94 said:
Also when i use a new rom will i loose all my apps phone numbers etc?
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Yes.! You will lose your apps, if your contacts are synchronized with you google account, you can get those back after..but for apps , make backup with Titanium backup or Mybackup root etc. so that you can restore those back..
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[Resolved] dx moto logo boot error

hello all
sorry if this is in the wrong section.
today i decided i didnt like my old rom and tried to install fission using the fission rom manager. in the install screen, i forgot to check the wipe box by mistake.
now my phone WILL NOT go any farther than the white moto logo at the very beginning of the boot animation. Is there anyway I can fix this? i am not that experienced at this stuff, so a good explanation is needed. please help!
i just figured out how to get to (stock) recovery from boot, but even after wiping and retryin a few times, it still wont work....
i have also not upgraded or updated really anything since i got my phone months ago, except root, and deodex, and flyx rom
-matt
You won't lose root, and when you sign back into google all your apps will come back. Did you make a recent backup? If so you can use it from recovery
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You can even wipe and reinstall if you still wanna try fission since you're in recovery.
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google has all of my tons of apps? sik. but from recovery there is no option to restore/backup nandroid, like bootstrap
the options are reboot, apply sdcard update.zip, wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache partition
Oh you're in stock recovery... Just wipe and reboot.
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well thanks for helping, but even after i wiped 3 or 4 times trying, it still desnt work. any ideas?
idk if fission requires 2.3.32 or somethin, but i dont think i hav updated anything since i got my phone a long time ago, just thought id add that
Try pulling the battery, should reboot to clockwork recovery when you put battery back in, then you can restore a backup or flash a rom from sd card.
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mattmartin77 said:
well thanks for helping, but even after i wiped 3 or 4 times trying, it still desnt work. any ideas?
idk if fission requires 2.3.32 or somethin, but i dont think i hav updated anything since i got my phone a long time ago, just thought id add that
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Most roms require .320/.340. You definitely wanna upgrade if you plan on flashing in the future.
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well neither of those solve my problem, i am debating on whether on not to take it to verizon, but idk if they will even help me.
if you can get to clockwork recovery you can download a rom by computer and transfer to your sd card, or put your card in another phone to download it. Then flash that rom. Be sure to mount the system before flashing
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Hi matt.. soon after getting my X, I got stuck in your situation while flashing a rom. I took it to verizon and after trying to troubleshoot it for a few minutes, they decided to just overnight me another one. I told them that I woke up and the phone was stuck at the M. I didn't mention anything about being rooted or trying to flash a rom.
The phone was also within the one year warranty though. You might want to try this route if all else fails.
Good luck!!
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If everything else fails you can sbf. I'll pm you a link for the 2.2315 full sbf, just download rsd lite 4.8 and google how to do a sbf if your not familiar. Then you can do the official ota and be up to date
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thnx everyone. ive never sbf'ed before, but ill give it a shot. i wish i could get to clockwork, it would make everything so much easier.
i triedflashing a new sbf, but rsdlite gives me the error- could not find initial values in the ini file or somthin... any ideas? its my fisrt time putting on a new sbf.
mattmartin77 said:
i triedflashing a new sbf, but rsdlite gives me the error- could not find initial values in the ini file or somthin... any ideas? its my fisrt time putting on a new sbf.
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What version of rsd are you using? you can just sbf .320 full then .340 system only and it will be updated no need to sbf an old file.
i am using the newest rsd i could find. 4.9 right? and it seems as if i need pst_flash.ini according to the sbf installation instructions i found here
edit: hey thnx everyone for the help. i took it to verizon and the techs said it was a "complete software crash". yay i bricked my phone:/... the good news is that verizon is overnighting me a new one.
when i get it i am going to root it. i also want it to be the latest sbf or whatever its called so i can get either fission or gummyjar on there. now i need 2 more questions answered.
1. which option in about is the one that tells me what sbf im on?
2. i kinda need a really good tut on how to flash a new sbf and get it to .340 because i clearly failed miserably at it last time, so anyone have a link or willing to write it up?
It should have.340 on it or be ready to update. You can check by going to settings, about phone, build number. It should say 2.2.340
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oh build number. thnx bro, so many confusing numbers, why cant there just be simple names? lol
Full SBF isn't out yet for 2.3.340 you will need the SBF for 2.3.320 and then the patches to get to 2.3.340. Keep it handy just in case!
yah i have the .15 sbf right now for safe keeping but i cant find the .32 or the .34 patch, but it isnt urgent since i heard that the new phone that is coming will be preloaded with the newest everything.
can i just use z4root to root my new phone? or do i have to do the doroot thing in adb like i originally did on my first dx?
I also wanted to know if i could use one of the kernels i saw in the fission rom manager with a rom other than fission, such as gummyjar.

[Q] What next?

So i ended getting stuck in a reboot loop while trying to use droid x recovery bootstrap. Ultimately, i used rsd lite and sbf 2.3.320. So the question is what next? i tried to get the ota gingerbread update from verizon by updating through my phone, but it says that it is up to date. Do i need to re root my phone and flash a current version of gingerbread.
I did make a full titanium backup before is crashed my phone. I am still a little root shy after my first experience.
Try rebooting a few times and checking again. You could always just do a Gingerbread SBF if need be, though.
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Thanks. i will try that. If i end up using a gingerbread sbf, do i need to be rooted? Otherwise, just follow the same sbf directions i used before?
SBFing does not require root, if that is what you're asking.
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I ended up sbf back to 602 and got an OTA update to 605. Then rooted with 1 click root. Reloaded app from titanium back up.
Feeling a little more comfortable with the whole rooting thing. I think i ended up in a boot loop because i used droid x bootstrap which is not compatible with gingerbread.
So now i want to make sure i understand what i am doing. droid 2 bootstrap will prevent my stock rom from loading and instead will allow me to replace the rom manually. Once i reboot, it will boot into the new rom. i downloaded rom manager which will essentially automate to process of using a new rom.
One question though. Can i use rom manager to back up the stock 605 rom and go back to that if i want?
Hope this noob is starting to learn
You definitely should be able to.
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From personal experience I have had problems with ROM manager on gingerbread...i would download Droid 2 bootstrap from the market and press (bootstrap recovery) then (OK) followed by (reboot recovery)
That should get you right into Clockwork mod Recovery without problems....then use the volume down button and go to (backup and restore) then just press your camera button to select backup...
Once finished just hit the back button and reboot and you should have a perfectly good Nandroid backup of your current system
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Boarder277 said:
From personal experience I have had problems with ROM manager on gingerbread...i would download Droid 2 bootstrap from the market and press (bootstrap recovery) then (OK) followed by (reboot recovery)
That should get you right into Clockwork mod Recovery without problems....then use the volume down button and go to (backup and restore) then just press your camera button to select backup...
Once finished just hit the back button and reboot and you should have a perfectly good Nandroid backup of your current system
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This is the method I use and it has worked fine.
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Thanks for your help. I got the the phone running on liquid rom. Pretty cool. I guess the 2nd init roms only work on older, rooted versions for the dx? I will do a manual rom flash also, just to understand what i am doing with the rom manager.
Gadget_Guru said:
Thanks for your help. I got the the phone running on liquid rom. Pretty cool. I guess the 2nd init roms only work on older, rooted versions for the dx? I will do a manual rom flash also, just to understand what i am doing with the rom manager.
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2nd init can work on either Froyo kernel based (older) or Gingerbread kernel (newer) roms.
Check the rom's thread to find out what kernel it uses and for installation instructions.
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[Q] Defy doesn't boot

Hi all,
i had installed cyanogen mod on my defy and all was perfect.
After that i tried to install defy_recovery-1218-0326-signed.apk and it says that was installed successfully.
I tried to boot in recovery mode and when i power up the phone it stays on the initial logo forever (cyanogen mod 7..).
I tried to flash my version founded here sbf.droid-developers org but it make the same things on boot...
What should I do?
Please help me, i bought that phone yesterday!
did u do a whipe cache and wipe data ?
didcv said:
did u do a whipe cache and wipe data ?
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yeah, i tried it now, i didn't know this method and it works...
But sorry man, what version should i install? Now I have 2.3.6 (i don't know why, it's the only version that work that i tried) but i would like to install Cyanogen Mod V7...
Can you explain me what should i do? Thank you very mutch!
So you flashed and 2.3.6 sbf? Do you have a Defy+ or a normal defy?
If you have a normal defy and you have a green lense, you can't use your camera anymore (kernel limitation) even not on CM.
To install CM7, download a Defy+ nightly (even if you have a normal defy, cause you are on defy+ kernal) form here: http://www.defy-cm.net/
You must not use defy_recovery-1218-0326-signed.apk any more.
Use 2nd init form: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
When you have installed 2nd init: reboot, wait for blue led, press volume up,go to custom recovery, install the zip downloaded earlier.
But to install 2ndInit i have to get the root permission, how can i do it? With oneClick it doesn't work....
Yes I have the Defy MB525...
EDIT:
yeah, i get root permission and i installed 2ndinit but what should i do to get into recovery mode? I don't understand
RE-EDIT: I had to press power down button, not up...
I did the same mistake on my Moto defy ... did you get it to boot back up and if so how ? Ty to whom ever helps
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Arc ur post says u have a HTC Vision do have a stock Nandroid backup of your HTC Vision u can pass along? I know I'm off topic but this was the first search result that came up for my query "HTC G2 Vision wont boot up" So i thought id ask.
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Sorry bro I don't back up my phone much cause I don't put much stuff on it ... something wrong with ur Vision ?
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Yeah it doesn't get past the HTC screen when I try to boot it, I've tried everything, it unrooted and stock right now. I can't use adb but I can use fastboot, I've tried the T-Mobile updates and ruu but nothing helps. I don't know what else to try.

[Q] Help With 2ndinit

I've rooted my wifes regular Defy (red lens). She'd like to try CM10 out, which I've been running for the past couple months on my Defy.
She's on stock T-Mobile US ROM and rooted. Installed Defy 2ndInit 2.3, granted it superuser permissions, clicked the install button, and was told "success" (green led was also on).
However, after rebooting her phone, the blue or green led never turns on like it does on my phone.
We've both been running custom ROM's for so long that I've not had to do this in a long time. Updating her from CM7 to CM10 didn't go well so I had to flash an SBF to her phone.
Any idea what I did wrong? Should I just try a different version?
Did you follow the instructions regarding USB debugging before installing 2ndinit?
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thekguy said:
Did you follow the instructions regarding USB debugging before installing 2ndinit?
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Yah, USB debugging is turned on. In fact, it won't even let you install the recovery if USB debugging isn't enabled.
All you can do is: full wipe and flash stock sbf. use the latest version of 2ndinit. Beyond that I have no ideas
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See thats the thing, I already flashed a stock SBF and used the latest version of 2ndinit.
I didn't do a full wipe prior because I was unable to enter custom recovery. Is there an option to do a full wipe in the stock recovery? I don't even recall how to get into it.
To enter stock recovery, press the volume up key while starting and hold. when you see a background hold both volume keys to get the menu for data wipe
IMO I think something is not getting wiped in the flash. You can try a legacy version of 2ndinit too. Select the ti blank flash option in rsdlite. Stock sbf+ data wipe + rooting is sufficient for 2ndinit. It certainly is a queer problem
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thekguy said:
To enter stock recovery, press the volume up key while starting and hold. when you see a background hold both volume keys to get the menu for data wipe
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My man! That's it. Was just going to search on how to do it but you saved me.
Will do this tonight and flash the stock sbf again and see if that helps.
Will report back to let you know if I get it working.
Ok; I'm off for a couple of hours too
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thekguy said:
Ok; I'm off for a couple of hours too
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OK, just to update you.
I guess I was using Android 2.1 SBF, which you can enter recovery on by touching the bottom-right of the screen.
Anyway, after updating to 2.2 OTA, I was able to get custom recovery installed via 2ndinit. So all is good.
My wife is now running CM10 like me.
tlongren said:
OK, just to update you.
I guess I was using Android 2.1 SBF, which you can enter recovery on by touching the bottom-right of the screen.
Anyway, after updating to 2.2 OTA, I was able to get custom recovery installed via 2ndinit. So all is good.
My wife is now running CM10 like me.
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if possible, could you share the process you followed with me? I am having a defy eclair MB525 and it's not going to the recovery mode on rebooting. It's stuck on the triangle.
niv_defy said:
if possible, could you share the process you followed with me? I am having a defy eclair MB525 and it's not going to the recovery mode on rebooting. It's stuck on the triangle.
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OK, if you want to get to stock recovery and you've already got the little android guy with the triangle on the screen, just touch the bottom right corner of your screen.
That should bring you into stock recovery if you're on eclair.
There's probably an OTA update available for you. To check for that, go to Settings, About Phone, and then Check For Updates (may be worded slightly different). I don't know if vodaphone ever did an update for the Defy though in India. But I suppose they probably did.
i have only four options available.
* Reboot System now
* Apply SDCard:update.zip
* Wipe data/factory reset
* Wipe Cache Partition
last night i tried with all the options and the only thing happened, just got all my data and app wiped. When I reboot the device, i got my eclair back and restored all the data using titanium. Am I doing something wrong here?
In fact, my device is not vodafone dependent. There are no updates available till date. In addition, i was trying to flash it using ICS CM10.
tlongren said:
OK, just to update you.
I guess I was using Android 2.1 SBF, which you can enter recovery on by touching the bottom-right of the screen.
Anyway, after updating to 2.2 OTA, I was able to get custom recovery installed via 2ndinit. So all is good.
My wife is now running CM10 like me.
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Glad to know you're up and running:good:
niv_defy said:
i have only four options available.
* Reboot System now
* Apply SDCard:update.zip
* Wipe data/factory reset
* Wipe Cache Partition
last night i tried with all the options and the only thing happened, just got all my data and app wiped. When I reboot the device, i got my eclair back and restored all the data using titanium. Am I doing something wrong here?
In fact, my device is not vodafone dependent. There are no updates available till date. In addition, i was trying to flash it using ICS CM10.
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OK, what exactly are you trying to do? Get custom recovery installed via 2ndinit?

rooting problem in defy+

hi all I tried rooting defy+ using superoneclick 2.3 and was successful. i then backed up user apps using titanium backup.then i tried the unrooting option in superoneclick. when unrooting was in progress superoneclick stopped responding & crashed.i tried again but its stopping in middle,a message data/local/tmp/bomh file not found at step 1 and stops responding.i checked if its still rooted but getting message you're phone is not rooted when using root explorer.now i am not able root it again too getting same file not found.
can some help me to rectify this issue.
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jackajay said:
hi all I tried rooting defy+ using superoneclick 2.3 and was successful. i then backed up user apps using titanium backup.then i tried the unrooting option in superoneclick. when unrooting was in progress superoneclick stopped responding & crashed.i tried again but its stopping in middle,a message data/local/tmp/bomh file not found at step 1 and stops responding.i checked if its still rooted but getting message you're phone is not rooted when using root explorer.now i am not able root it again too getting same file not found.
can some help me to rectify this issue.
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try rooting after data wipe from stock recovery
If not then you'll have to flash a stock sbf
thekguy said:
try rooting after data wipe from stock recovery
If not then you'll have to flash a stock sbf
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how to do data wipe,will i lose all installed app data?. i hv nandroid backup will it help in any ways.kindly brief me.
thanx,
jj
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jackajay said:
how to do data wipe,will i lose all installed app data?. i hv nandroid backup will it help in any ways.kindly brief me.
thanx,
jj
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If you have a nandroid backup, just restore it. If you were rooted when you backed up, you will be rooted again.
Factory reset - power up while holding Volume Down, then press Vol-Up and Vol-Down together when you see the little Android icon. This is stock recovery. Then select Wipe Data and cache. Yes you will lose all your data and apps.
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If you have a nandroid backup, just restore it. If you were rooted when you backed up, you will be rooted again.
Factory reset - power up while holding Volume Down, then press Vol-Up and Vol-Down together when you see the little Android icon. This is stock recovery. Then select Wipe Data and cache. Yes you will lose all your data and apps.
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thanks for the info,will restoring nandroid backup too will result in lost of apps & data?
for restoring nandroid backup boot to recovery then select back & recovery then select restore from backup option. this is the step right?
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If you have a full nandroid backup, then restoring will not lose your apps
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i selected backup(full) option when taking backup & its size is 0.98gb is it a full nandroid right?
also do i hv to do anything to more other than clicking unroot button in superoneclick?
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Ya its fine
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If you have BL7 it could be the problem. The solution here seems to work though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956
pls find the error i am getting while trying to root.
i tried to boot in recovery by pressing power button wihile holding vol key down i could see android symbol(android mascot) with exclamatory mark.how to go to cmw recovey from there i couldnt see any menu?
jackajay said:
pls find the error i am getting while trying to root.
i tried to boot in recovery by pressing power button wihile holding vol key down i could see android symbol(android mascot) with exclamatory mark.how to go to cmw recovey from there i couldnt see any menu?
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You probably can't get into CWM recovery now (you are not rooted at the moment). When you see exclamation mark just press vol - and + simultaneously. Then you will get into stock recovery. Just wipe data from here (factory reset) and try again with rooting.
i google for the issue i am getting /data/local/tmp/boomsh file not found. i could see many cases where people have reported the problem. can anyone say if there is any solution for this or only factory reset is the only option. if i do factory reset will i be able to be back on track. i dont want to lose my datas
Pls help me solve this issue also i would like to thank all of you for giving me information whenever asked.
Thanks a lot,
jj
jackajay said:
i google for the issue i am getting /data/local/tmp/boomsh file not found. i could see many cases where people have reported the problem. can anyone say if there is any solution for this or only factory reset is the only option. if i do factory reset will i be able to be back on track. i dont want to lose my datas
Pls help me solve this issue also i would like to thank all of you for giving me information whenever asked.
Thanks a lot,
jj
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Only one note: as far as you have TB of your apps + data, you will be able to get them back after successful root.
If you need your sms messages, then backup them with any SMS backup app from GooglePlay
If you have your contacts synced with google account, they will be back after new sync.
It will take some time but most important data will be safe to restore.
And for next time: make a nandroid backup before any bigger changes in the system - then you will be able to get back quite fast with all system settings.
When resetting the system do not erase your SD card.
So sorry for bad news but probably resetting the system is now probably best step to do. If it doesn't work next step would be flashing of full sbf.
i have a nandroid backup but couldn't able to get into custom recovery since my phone is not rooted now.i took nandroid back couple of days before when i managed to root my mobile.
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jackajay said:
i have a nandroid backup but couldn't able to get into custom recovery since my phone is not rooted now.i took nandroid back couple of days before when i managed to root my mobile.
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Then you loose nothing.
- Wipe data/factory reset
- try to root
- if successfull install 2nd init and restore from nandroid backup (all) - then you shall have a phone in a state that you had before
- if not successful, then give me your current kernel (settings>about phone) and I'll try to show you which sbf from a list I send in message should be the best. Then you will root it, install 2ndinit, restore nandroid backup or flash any CMxxx and restore from your TB backup.
my defy+ info,please find me a suitable SBF.
System version-45.0.891.MB526.AsiaRetail.en.03
model number-MB526
android version-2.3.4
Baseband version-EPU93_U_00.60.00
Kernal [email protected]#1
build number-4.5.1-134_DFP-891
Thanks,
jj
jackajay said:
my defy+ info,please find me a suitable SBF.
System version-45.0.891.MB526.AsiaRetail.en.03
model number-MB526
android version-2.3.4
Baseband version-EPU93_U_00.60.00
Kernal [email protected]#1
build number-4.5.1-134_DFP-891
Thanks,
jj
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Here's the link to all sbfs for defy and defy plus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
Enjoy
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vedang81 said:
Here's the link to all sbfs for defy and defy plus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
Enjoy
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I couldnt find the SBF corresponding to my stock ROM in that link you have provided.
Can someone help me find the 4.5.1-134_DFP-891 SBF since i cant find it in the list of SBF's shared by vedang81
jackajay said:
Can someone help me find the 4.5.1-134_DFP-891 SBF since i cant find it in the list of SBF's shared by vedang81
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Maybe some other forums have the file, just try any other BL6, with numbers 4.5.1-134_DFP from 125 up to 161.
Just try and give feedback.

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