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Windows Phone 7 on the EVO

I know WP7 is going to be GSM-only until next year, but is there any chance of it running on the evo?
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Hrshycro said:
I know WP7 is going to be GSM-only until next year, but is there any chance of it running on the evo?
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Really? You cant search?
To answer you, no. It will pretty much positively never-have-i-ever happen.

Why would you want it to? Lol
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Leukay said:
Really? You cant search?
To answer you, no. It will pretty much positively never-have-i-ever happen.
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lol, bad day??
To the OP:
In short, no. Micro$oft will charge carriers to load Windows on phones. So without a pre-activated Windows phone, you will not have the correct validation to load WM7 on a non Windows phone. But of course... with money you can do anything. Such as buying Windows Mobile software...then configuring all the hardware...etc etc. But I think you catch my drift. lol Just a big hassle.
You can do it vice versa because Android is open sourced.

mbaseball3 said:
Why would you want it to? Lol
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Because he's not a hater and choice is always better?

You can get the Zune Home launcher app thing. Makes it very WP7.

actually it most likely will be possible, thing is the radio probably wont work till the cdma version comes out. seeing as it has been ported to the hd2 it seem very possible. android is a great os but if you have a device that allows you to test an other os why not i would love to try wp7 out.
engadget.com/2010/03/28/htc-hd2-gets-early-windows-phone-7-os-port-could-be-released-be/

Most importantly, it would be illegal since you would not have a legit license. There is no retail version of Windows Phone 7 nor will there ever be. It's one thing to use an OEM licence on a phone that already had an authorized OEM license... but it is another thing to use an OEM app on hardware it was not designed for. It would be considered piracy at that point and I doubt this site (or other popular sites) would condone that activity.
Also... if you want to make your EVO crappier, why wait for windows mobile 7 to come out? Just wipe your ass with it.

that endgadget video is sketchy as ****. there was a guy who posted almost identical video of him running iOS on sprint instinct when it first came out. It showed him holding the phone in front of the monitor just like that. In the end it was all faked, dont know why but the guy just disappeared.
so ya, till i see it, i won't believe it. + the OS looks bloated and slow. It will probably drain battery faster and lag/shutter.

well, at least in that case... its running on an intended platform... but yeah, win phone 7 is pretty much done before it starts. I am betting that MS will give up on the phone business after this. Maybe they will sell their employees to Apple. Apple will become the next MS after Android holds its king seat for a year or two.

i know once windows phone 7 comes out im still going to stay on android tho honestly i think wp7 is going to come out good microsoft has been doing pretty good with everything lately, windows 7, ie9 the kin was a fail lol but i think wp7 will be a pretty strong player in the smart phone market and problem is most of you are calling it a piece of **** before using it i think it deserves a chance and if you guys are right and it is **** then i will accept your i told you so's lol

edufur said:
Most importantly, it would be illegal since you would not have a legit license. There is no retail version of Windows Phone 7 nor will there ever be. It's one thing to use an OEM licence on a phone that already had an authorized OEM license... but it is another thing to use an OEM app on hardware it was not designed for. It would be considered piracy at that point and I doubt this site (or other popular sites) would condone that activity.
Also... if you want to make your EVO crappier, why wait for windows mobile 7 to come out? Just wipe your ass with it.
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wow fanboy alert. Yeah no one wants to see choice...............also all the sense roms on here are illegal to by the way

edufur said:
Also... if you want to make your EVO crappier, why wait for windows mobile 7 to come out? Just wipe your ass with it.
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lol.....that's pretty damn funny.

well regardless of what you android fanboys have to say about windows phone 7, as soon as it get released on sprint with a 4.3 inch screen and some decent hardware i will be switching. I was originally an windows mobile user and made the switch from the tp2 to the evo. I just couldn't pass up on the specs of the EVO and the hd2 wasn't released for anyone but t-mobile. I never thought i would like android but after using it i actually like it alot but with that said i definitely will give windows phone 7 a try before i make a final judgement

BrianDigital said:
wow fanboy alert. Yeah no one wants to see choice...............also all the sense roms on here are illegal to by the way
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Exactly. And when has MS come and knocked your door down for stealing W7...probably never, and have any of their products ever not been cracked or hacked before within a week of them being out...probably not.
I like Android, but it's still a diamond in the rough when compared to iOS. I think WP7 will be a good mid ground for most people. Android is pretty rough (especially without sense) for most non-techy types of people.

They won't sell wp7 as a stand alone so that means its not pirating because they don't sell the software. The software is preloaded into a phone you buy.
I think it would be HTC who we would be pirating....
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Wow... you all don't get it. You didn't really read my post as to what would make it illegal.
First... let me say this. I love Android... and I guess I don't mind being called a fanboy. But before I got my EVO, I stayed true to Windows Mobile for YEARS and shouted about how it was way better than anything out there. So I was an MS fanboy until it just became a reality that MS is filled with idiots who don't know how to develop.
Now.. when it comes to legality of software and licensing....
Windows Mobile comes installed onto many handsets. Those handsets by definition are licensed as OEM. Hacked Windows Mobile ROMS are OEM and when re-used on a Windows Mobile device, it is a gray area that has no illegal definition. But it is because those devices had the OEM license FOR Windows Mobile.
BUT... Android phones NEVER had an OEM license to use Windows Mobile... which makes installation on those phones (assuming someone can figure it out) a technically illegal act. IF, however, MS sold retail versions of just the Windows Mobile software (wont ever happen), then and ONLY then, could you legally install that software on any handset you could force it onto.
As for HTC and sense... and the ROMS that use sense being illegal. On what basis are you saying this? We buy phones that have sense on them. So using a ROM that still has it on there is perfectly fine.
I hope this clears things up...

edufur said:
Wow... you all don't get it. You didn't really read my post as to what would make it illegal.
First... let me say this. I love Android... and I guess I don't mind being called a fanboy. But before I got my EVO, I stayed true to Windows Mobile for YEARS and shouted about how it was way better than anything out there. So I was an MS fanboy until it just became a reality that MS is filled with idiots who don't know how to develop.
Now.. when it comes to legality of software and licensing....
Windows Mobile comes installed onto many handsets. Those handsets by definition are licensed as OEM. Hacked Windows Mobile ROMS are OEM and when re-used on a Windows Mobile device, it is a gray area that has no illegal definition. But it is because those devices had the OEM license FOR Windows Mobile.
BUT... Android phones NEVER had an OEM license to use Windows Mobile... which makes installation on those phones (assuming someone can figure it out) a technically illegal act. IF, however, MS sold retail versions of just the Windows Mobile software (wont ever happen), then and ONLY then, could you legally install that software on any handset you could force it onto.
As for HTC and sense... and the ROMS that use sense being illegal. On what basis are you saying this? We buy phones that have sense on them. So using a ROM that still has it on there is perfectly fine.
I hope this clears things up...
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what he means, is android by design and default is an OPEN SOURCE project. (AOSP), which means it can be modified, used, and redistributed (in a nutshell), and Google HAS to release all source codes.
I think we all know WM is NOT open source, everytime WM or a Windows OS gets loaded onto a device/computer, somehow the manufacturer is paying for the OS. (again, in a nutshell)
On the contrary, Sense is HTC proprietary software, and NOT open source.
This is the reason why cyanogen refuses to put anything Sense related into his CM6 roms, because HTC hasnt OFFICIALLY given anyone the rights to modify and/or redistribute its code.
Is it "illegal" (for lack of better term)? Sure the modded Sense roms are..Will HTC out cease and desist letters to anyone here? I can almost guarantee they wont unless someone is profiting from there code. Just my .02 cents

Windows 8 is now stable on ARM!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-5...-on-arm-going-to-developers-soon-say-sources/

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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-5...-on-arm-going-to-developers-soon-say-sources/
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Yes but it requires 40ish Gb of space, a secure boot image and OEM branding to function... none of which we have so stop posting about it

evil secure boot: if you get one of those, it won't run Android on it (unless someone cracks their keys)

mrevankyle said:
Yes but it requires 40ish Gb of space, a secure boot image and OEM branding to function... none of which we have so stop posting about it
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so what i dnt think the op was saying it was stable on the tf101so stop being a rudeinconsiderate jerk

Completely off-topic; this thread should be moved to a forum that has anything to do with Windows 8.
And incidentally, Win8 will be the next Vista. It will flop, badly. Microsoft has never managed an even slightly successful touch-screen OS, and Win8 has significant design limitations that will put people off once they finally get to try it.

As much as I agree that Windows 8 may flop, I also disagree about MS never building a decent touchscreen OS. Before Windows 7, absolutely - however the Acer running Windows 7 worked extremely well to my surprise. It worked just as a tablet should and the response time was impressive. Any tablet that has a fan is a fail though, so if it works well on ARM - maybe.....
If Microsoft can make Windows 8 work and improve on the "tiles" portion, I think it could be a reasonable tablet OS.

neofreek01 said:
so what i dnt think the op was saying it was stable on the tf101so stop being a rudeinconsiderate jerk
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I am sorry that you think that that was inconsiderate it just irritates me when someone opens a new thread for a topic that has already been discussed multiple times in the form of a device that will never get that operating system. There is an entire windows 8 section of XDA and i think that this post would have better served to start a discussion there

caseyc said:
As much as I agree that Windows 8 may flop, I also disagree about MS never building a decent touchscreen OS. Before Windows 7, absolutely - however the Acer running Windows 7 worked extremely well to my surprise. It worked just as a tablet should and the response time was impressive. Any tablet that has a fan is a fail though, so if it works well on ARM - maybe.....
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What percentage of Windows7 users are even aware it can operate with a touch screen, much less use it that way?
I rest my case.

What percentage of iPad users know that tablets can be used for things outside of Angry Birds and porn?
The point isn't that Windows necessarily suck at touchscreen capability, it's just that they don't seem to have attracted much attention with it. Whether it's because they also believe that bull**** Apple has created around tablets and want to be seen as a more serious company... or if they're just too damn slow and big to move quickly, who knows?
(By the way, slightly off topic, but where is the best source to gather all past financial history on Apple and Microsoft??)

I wonder how many people will think that Windows 8 on tablets will run Windows applications... Windows 8 is heading for disaster consumer confusion will be the order of the day when Microsoft release 2 versions of Windows 8 that are totally different OSes that run different binary apps.
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CrazyPeter said:
I wonder how many people will think that Windows 8 on tablets will run Windows applications... Windows 8 is heading for disaster consumer confusion will be the order of the day when Microsoft release 2 versions of Windows 8 that are totally different OSes that run different binary apps.
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Yeah, i really do wonder, how many people are going to buy some w8 tablet thinking that they might run any .exe files from their computer I believe there will be many flames thx to it. Not to mention the catastrophic amount of application after the launch....
And the impossibility to dualboot any other system -> w8 will be doomed and forgotten on arm.

asdfuogh said:
What percentage of iPad users know that tablets can be used for things outside of Angry Birds and porn?
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A pretty good percentage, I'd say, and the same is true of Android users. However, that straw man has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is that Microsoft has had nothing but dismal failure with touchscreen features of every product they've offered.
CrazyPeter said:
I wonder how many people will think that Windows 8 on tablets will run Windows applications... Windows 8 is heading for disaster consumer confusion will be the order of the day when Microsoft release 2 versions of Windows 8 that are totally different OSes that run different binary apps.
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This is one of the key problems I alluded to, and given the number of people in this very forum who don't understand that issue, the answer is "a lot".

CrazyPeter said:
I wonder how many people will think that Windows 8 on tablets will run Windows applications... Windows 8 is heading for disaster consumer confusion will be the order of the day when Microsoft release 2 versions of Windows 8 that are totally different OSes that run different binary apps.
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I'm one. That's actually what I was expecting =[
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blestsol said:
I'm one. That's actually what I was expecting =[
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Apparently, I am one, too. I am sadly mistaken, and was quite bigoted to have thought otherwise.

We have a ASUS see slate at the hospital that I work at. It runs Windows 7 64bit with a Solid state drive and 2 gigs of ram, able to go to 4 gigs. It is actually a very solid machine, And cost effictive for our hospital. Most doctors have dell xt2 tablets they carry around that are POS, cost around 3500. For like 1200 you can get a slate a eeeslate and keyboard.
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knoxploration said:
What percentage of Windows7 users are even aware it can operate with a touch screen, much less use it that way?
I rest my case.
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Uh, what? I get that the marketing sucks and they only have like 3 tablets out that run Windows 7 (if that), but that doesn't mean it doesn't work well. I'm obviously not saying it is or ever will be as popular as Android/iOS tablets, hahahah.
Microsoft is an OS developer, and until they manufacture the hardware as well (which won't happen) they're going to have to license Windows to tablet manufacturers who actually want to make them. How many manufacturers want to pay a license for Windows when they can just as easily slap Android on any piece of hardware for free? Not to mention they've had to build Windows tablets using x86 architecture all along which isn't cheap when it's not mass-ordered by every other OEM.
That said, my point was that Windows 7 works surprisingly well as a tablet OS, not that it's going to compete for 1st place with the big boys.
Just as Windows Phone 7 is a relative dud, I'm sure Windows 8 ARM will be as well. Not because the OS doesn't work well on a tablet, but because they are FARRRRRR too late in the game. Popular app developers are just now starting to port their catalog to Android, it's not likely that they are going to consider also porting to Windows on ARM when the user base will be virtually non-existent.
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I wonder how many people will think that Windows 8 on tablets will run Windows applications... Windows 8 is heading for disaster consumer confusion will be the order of the day when Microsoft release 2 versions of Windows 8 that are totally different OSes that run different binary apps.
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That's a great point, and I'm sure 90% of the people who buy Windows tablets are going to be people who want to take their desktop applications to a mobile platform.
I guess I just saw a glimmer of hope with the Windows 7 tablet I was surprised by in the store, but I'm being reminded how unlikely it is that Microsoft will ever succeed with any sort of a mobile product for regular consumers.

It's unfortunate, but both Windows 8 in it's tablet form, and Windows Phone 7 are relying on consumer ignorance to succeed.
The Tech news community are the ones at fault here, not highlighting these critical problems with the products, instead banking Microsoft's lucrative "advertising" payments in exchange for saying nice things.
Corporate America ****ing disgusts me. Almost as much as the lack of action by the US government in Microsoft's anti-trust practices.
Looking at the list of categories here, Microsoft have violated most of these at one time, and many they still continue to do so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-competitive_practices

I am waiting for win 8 Arm tablet
I am one waiting for an arm tablet on windows 8.

I was at one point looking forward to Win8 on ARM but after reading about how MS is going to be locking down ARM systems that run Win8 I have no desire any longer. When will MS and for that matter HW manufacturers understand that an ARM tablet is NO different than a white box PC. Leave it open and unlocked and if someone chooses to install Windows, Android, iOS, Linux, etc... let them.

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[Q] Windows 8 & Ipad 2 Dual Boot?

What does anybody think about Windows 8 and Ipad 2 dual booting ??Will it every happen?

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What does anybody think about Windows 8 and Ipad 2 dual booting ??Will it every happen?
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I highly doubt it what with apples tight grasp on drivers and everything really
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no, it won't be.
W8ARM will not be available to consumers, only manufacturers, making liscences for ports almost, if not completely impossible to obtain. It will also require an encrypted bootloader and specific hardware, which the iPad 2/3 quite possibly won't meet up with. Even if those were able to be worked around, you'd need to create drivers for windows, and, as the idroid project as shown, creating new drivers for iOS devices is incredibly hard.
So no. give up all hope of W8ARM on existing Android/iOS/WebOS hardware now.
it MAY be possible to get W8ARM on a WP7/WP8 device, maybe even the HD2, seeing as they (should) have compatible drivers and since they're all Microsoft, there are theoretical loopholes for the licence. but that's still going to be difficult, and may never work properly.
TL;DR version - if you want Windows 8 ARM, buy a device that comes with it.

mtmerrick said:
no, it won't be.
W8ARM will not be available to consumers, only manufacturers, making liscences for ports almost, if not completely impossible to obtain. It will also require an encrypted bootloader and specific hardware, which the iPad 2/3 quite possibly won't meet up with. Even if those were able to be worked around, you'd need to create drivers for windows, and, as the idroid project as shown, creating new drivers for iOS devices is incredibly hard.
So no. give up all hope of W8ARM on existing Android/iOS/WebOS hardware now.
it MAY be possible to get W8ARM on a WP7/WP8 device, maybe even the HD2, seeing as they (should) have compatible drivers and since they're all Microsoft, there are theoretical loopholes for the licence. but that's still going to be difficult, and may never work properly.
TL;DR version - if you want Windows 8 ARM, buy a device that comes with it.
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Damn, was hoping that my girlfriends iPad would eventually be able to do something useful however I never held high hopes! Goddamn Apple.

I still love my iPad 2 3G + WiFi 64GB any day, any time.

just wont happen. needs an UEFI bios

No It Will Never Happen...

on iPad never because of Apple's "simplicity" but maybe on some android tablets

no, it won't. the secure boot hardware, liscenceing, and drivers will make it impossible, unless you want to start soldering circuit boards and dealing with lawyers.

The two ( 2 ) people that want to dual boot ios/w8 are disappointed.
The rest of the world, ie, ipad owners...ask them if they want to boot w8 on their ipad. If they don't run away screaming "I hate Microsoft Office and got an ipad to get away from worrrrrrk!!!" Then you may be able to get more responses from them.
How many slates, er wait, we're calling them tablets again ? Have you seen in public ? Now how many ipads ? There will be no interest from the public, and even less from developers.

It wont happen that i am sure of

It can't happen since there is no bootrom exploit for the A5 chip. And Microsoft isn't likely to release an ISO or whatever for Windows on ARM either way.

seamless remote desktop to my w8 desktop
Because icons and touch imput are simular this would be a good work around.
Can you do this now with w7?

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ill go one up on you and say Win8 and OSX. ive been watching a group shove OSX on my windows tablet, the project still has a few hurdles, but it boots!
check this out:
http://www.tonymacx86.com/viewtopic.php?f=170&t=39461

[Q] Kindle Fire with Win 8?

I've read a number of posts regarding the many difficulties involved in porting Windows 8 to the Kindle Fire. Is it conceivable that a future incarnation utilize the Windows 8 os?

Will not be possible. Ever. Hardware using windows 8 must be blessed by Microsoft themselves, and there are many, many other protections with it to ensure that it is only installed on authorized hardware. Sorry, its not going to happen.
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Will not be possible. Ever. Hardware using windows 8 must be blessed by Microsoft themselves, and there are many, many other protections with it to ensure that it is only installed on authorized hardware. Sorry, its not going to happen.
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I would not jump to that, yet. Windows, by definition, is more of a universal operating system VS Mac OS X. Windows can run legally in a Mac, but OS X cant be run legally on a PC. Windows was made for a wider range of hardware, and likewise, in theory, could run on a completely unauthorized device, maybe through hardware bypass. Let us see. Earlier, no one thought this $200 amazon tablet could run ICS (nearly) perfectly. They thought it was absurd. But we, as a community, of devs, contributors, and noobs, proved them wrong. And we could do it again with Windows 8
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.... But we, as a community, of devs, contributors, and noobs, proved them wrong. And we could do it again with Windows 8
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I beg of you , community, please don't do this.

I would much rather see Linux on here. Even if Windows 8 got ported to the Kindle Fire, it would STILL be Windows, and by definition would be a step (or two) down from Android.

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I would much rather see Linux on here. Even if Windows 8 got ported to the Kindle Fire, it would STILL be Windows, and by definition would be a step (or two) down from Android.
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I guess so. I too hate windows, but there are a few people who want this.
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It would be interesting to know the reason why someone would like to have Windows on the Kindle. Kindle is cool. Android is cool. Windows is not that cool any more. I am a user, a noob from my head to the tail. I judge by coolness.

Windows 8 is not Window Desktop
Just to be fair, you can't really compare Windows 8 on a fire to Windows and in what you have seen for years on the desktop computer. It will not have any of the Win32 code in it because a Fire is a non-Intel CPU. Instead Windows 8 where talking about here will be the predecessor to the Windows Phone OS that you see on the Windows 7 phone. Here you are talking about a completely different experience. A Windows 7 phone can be argued as a much better touch interface than Android and possibly even the famous iPhone. It hasn't gotten much popularity because Microsoft missed the ball in the "phone war", but anyone I've seen who has a Windows Phone loves it and swears by it. So porting Windows 8 to a fire if it can be done would be actually be pretty awesome. If you don't believe me go to your nearest cell phone shop and play with a Windows Phone.
As for me, I have an android phone myself and like it very much. So I'm not preaching Windows 8. It was just sensing a slanted opinion of the topic based on Microsoft's flaws in a complete different market, which it has nothing to do with this topic.

Windows RT is supposed to support ARM architecture processors which means that, technically yes, it could work.
Now considering that drivers are proprietary, porting may be much more difficult unless Microsoft already did their legwork.
Functionally, the KF may be underpowered based on the hardware requirements for Windows RT.
Which leads to the question of, do you need Windows RT for your KF, or do you just want too say that it can be done?

Even if you still believe Windows is some unstable, immature operating system, in what possible way would porting it to any platform be detrimental to you? Name one. If you don't like it, don't do anything. How easy is that? Personally, I'd love to see it running on existing hardware simply because it's that much less I have to spend on more test equipment for development. It wasn't that long ago people were *****ing and complaining about porting "that Android garbage" to their Windows Mobile devices like it was the end of their world. I doubt it'll ever happen but if it did, I'd be first in line to see if it ran on any of my devices.

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Even if you still believe Windows is some unstable, immature operating system, in what possible way would porting it to any platform be detrimental to you? Name one. If you don't like it, don't do anything. How easy is that? Personally, I'd love to see it running on existing hardware simply because it's that much less I have to spend on more test equipment for development. It wasn't that long ago people were *****ing and complaining about porting "that Android garbage" to their Windows Mobile devices like it was the end of their world. I doubt it'll ever happen but if it did, I'd be first in line to see if it ran on any of my devices.
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Wooaahh. Hold on there Discussion Police. No need to get all bent out of shape over this. I don't remember seeing anyone here being personally attacked for their interest in using the Kindle Fire to run Windows 8. I only see people sharing their opinions on whether it would be a good idea or not. It's strange, how you took it so personally.
That being said...
Besides the potential of modifying Microsoft's software and porting it to a device that's not approved being ILLEGAL, you still have do deal with the lack of support, sketchy business practices (legitcheck, anyone?) and serious privacy concerns.
So, it is my absolutely permitted yet Not So Humble Opinion that supporting a company that has probably done more to damage the open source community than all others combined is probably not a good idea. Or maybe that's just me.
But hey, if you'd like to continue paying $300+ for a sub standard OS....
(getting off my soapbox now)

Just to share my opinion, I have never touched Windows OS for a long long time and my life was so much better after that (productivity). My old lappy was so crappy the last time I loaded it with Windows, it's slow and so limited in what it can do. After I loaded my lappy with Arch Linux, all I can say is WOW, the speed was way way superior compared to Windows, and there're basically nothing you can't do with Linux. So yeah, I don't think Win 8 is a good option for Kindle Fire, especially with limited ram size like 512MB. I'd go crazy if someone able to bring a pure linux distro to Kindle Fire though

If you want windows 8 to say that you have it, it makes sense. But the developer who does port it will probably get sued by Microsoft.
Next, based on system requirements, performance with the OS is most likely going to be unbearable.
Which then again leads me to the question of what are you expecting out of a port of windows 8/RT?

If windows 8 gets ported to kindle fire, the viruses won't be far behind. I'm a pc tech shop owner i love windows for the fact it keeps me busy.
Curious as to what os you guys run.
I use osx and Linux mostly & windows for scanning hard drivez from other computers.
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Well I've been using Windows 8 for awhile now, and I love it. Now would I want out on my kindle fire, not sure. The version of windows 8 that will support hardware the fire hasn't been released yet, all we have is Intel based version. I can tell you thou as a tablet based Os is its brilliant, and when the full version is released, I will be picking up a windows 8 tablet. Haven't made decision yet whether I will go will arm or Intel based. Arm will have limitations over its Intel counterparts, but I'm sure the battery life will be far better.
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Personally I think that android is better because it's open source and has a great app store.I would suggest that if any one likes the windows 8 ui,he or she should wait for a theme to get the best from both worlds.
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Being that the hardware inside the KF is so cheap, I wouldn't bother. And I love Windows 8.

Windows 8 for Nexus 7- What're our chances?

Windows 8 CAN run on arm, we know that. Or at least, a modified version can anyway. What do you reckon our chances of getting a Windows 8 port to our devices? Maybe a port from Microsoft's Slate Tablet? Maybe the only thing preventing this would be legal issues?
I realise some XDA members may find this proposal ridiculous, but I thought I'd just put it out there anyway .
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Windows RT isn't open source and comes only preloaded onto devices; I don't think it's happening
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Surely Microsoft would be happy to sell Nexus 7 owners a license. Its worth asking xD
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but HTC HD2 got windows phone 7 port...

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Surely Microsoft would be happy to sell Nexus 7 owners a license. Its worth asking xD
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Wouldn't happen for a couple reasons. First and foremost is that the Nexus 7 does not meet the minimum hardware requirements set forth by Microsoft for Windows RT tablets. Secondly, it would further undercut their OEM contracts since RT is currently only licensed to them. Thirdly, there's a lack of drivers for our hardware. Fourthly, the bootloader would need to be locked down tightly with no way to unlock.
Finally, I highly doubt you'd ever see it ported, as any dev who did try would find themselves on the losing end of a rather substantial lawsuit coming out of Redmond.
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Why would you want to downgrade your N7 anyway? That's like installing Windows 95 on your 3rd gen Core i7 desktop.
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najaboy said:
Wouldn't happen for a couple reasons. First and foremost is that the Nexus 7 does not meet the minimum hardware requirements set forth by Microsoft for Windows RT tablets. Secondly, it would further undercut their OEM contracts since RT is currently only licensed to them. Thirdly, there's a lack of drivers for our hardware. Fourthly, the bootloader would need to be locked down tightly with no way to unlock.
Finally, I highly doubt you'd ever see it ported, as any dev who did try would find themselves on the losing end of a rather substantial lawsuit coming out of Redmond.
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While I don't technically disagree with what you're saying (Port is unlikely), I do disagree with some of your reasoning. The requirements of Windows 8 compared to the Nexus 7 are irrelevant, XDA is all about getting devices to do things they were never designed to do in the first place. The HD2 is a great example of this, as it runs ports of every major mobile OS out there (as well as a few not-so-major ones). This kind of shows that how it affects OEMs is somewhat irrelevant as the same thing can be said about most devices from the Windows Phone/CE days. Even if that were true, the numbers of people who would actually buy a Nexus 7 just to install Windows 8 on it (or who WOULDN'T buy a Windows 8 tablet because they can use their N7) are probably very small.
Similarly, I don't think Microsoft has ever taken any of our developers to court. A C&D might get sent out, but that's probably the height of it. It certainly hasn't prevented developers from trying before.
I think the bootloader is completely irrelevant as well, why does the bootloader have to be locked down? To meet Microsoft's licensing requirements? That doesn't make any sense, nothing would be licensed (Which is what makes the whole thing a grey area for sure) so licensing requirements don't matter. The fact that we have reasonable control over the bootloader is actually a massive advantage.
The real issue that you've mentioned is regarding drivers. There's very few RT tablets out there right now so there isn't a lot of drivers we can pilfer (Although it probably will help that Surface is based off of Tegra 3 - which is what the N7 uses, albeit not the same type). Never mind that, not a lot of research into RT has happened just yet so the ability to pilfer ANYTHING is up for debate right now - surface is certainly going to be locked down to a large extent and as far as I'm aware there aren't going to be any System Dumps lying around that we can use either so there's a lot to do before even considering porting to something like the N7. I doubt anything like that would happen any time soon and by the time it does (assuming it ever does), the N7 might be old hat. None the less, I wouldn't rule it out as a definite no, just more of an extremely long shot for now.

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surface is certainly going to be locked down to a large extent and as far as I'm aware there aren't going to be any System Dumps lying around that we can use either so there's a lot to do before even considering porting to something like the N7. I doubt anything like that would happen any time soon
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Lol it's a Microsoft/Windows device. With their track record, there'll probably be a system dump before customers even start receiving devices
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Then again since when have we ever seen windows mobile os's ported over to android devices on this site, I've seen an ipod touch run android in my lifetime, but never any ports of Windows mobile 5, 6, 7 to any devices, but we ran android on windows mobile devices using haret.
I've toyed around with Windows Mobile 8 and Windows 8, it kinda reminds me of what windows ME was supposed to be ( being sarcastic) , it's a good OS but nothing to loose sleep over. By next year we will be asking for a Windows Mobile 9 port that will also never come to light.
At least we have Ubuntu running unoptimized on our N7............
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put win8 on desktop
http://www.splashtop.com/home
^install that
Profit

HD2 Can, why not Nexus?!
Cotulla, from this very forum!
HTC HD2 runs Windows RT...
http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/htc-hd2-refuses-to-die-now-runs-windows-rt/

Very talented developer. He got further than I ever expected.
Wake me if he ever makes it do anything useful.
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You can always use Splashtop 2 to mirror you windows 8 PC to your Nexus 7.It works surprisingly well.

matb321 said:
You can always use Splashtop 2 to mirror you windows 8 PC to your Nexus 7.It works surprisingly well.
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So I can remote into a Mac, does that mean it can run Mac OS as well. This is useless.

wondows architecture is x86 based. windows rt is arm based. on nexus7 impossible to running windows desktop os. however, its possible to running windows rt on nexus7 if it's bootloader unlocked and customized for booting win rt.

I can run Windows 7...
Theoretically, I am able to run Windows 8 Developer/Consumer Preview or Windows 8.1 PAE/NX Patched.
BUT THIS IS SO... SLOW