Shere folder in 4.2 - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Need help..how to shere folder or application in android 4.2..because i only have limited space for music, picture, and some application like file explorer..
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Use the search, there is already several thousand threads about your exact question *sigh*

lanyinx said:
Need help..how to shere folder or application in android 4.2..because i only have limited space for music, picture, and some application like file explorer..
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Are you referring to a folder that will share files between multiple profiles or something else? Free apps are only stored once, other profile users just go to Play to authorize the app on their profile, but it doesn't download again. Perhaps this thread can help:
How can I access files across users

The only thing I have in my "cher" folder is "Turn Back Time" :laugh:
But to "share", use Dropbox, or the Google or Amazon cloud to store "big" files. Or any explorer app to share with your PC.

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How to hide pictures?

Hello,
I have some pictures of my girlfriend when shes naked on my phone and i dont like that when i open my photos & videos first thing you see is my girlfriend naked. Its pretty annoying if my friends uses my phone and i cant let them go see pictures becouse im not that kind of boyfriend So is there any way to hide pictures / make folder with password? And sorry for my bad english i hope you guys understand.
like your honesty!!!
using file explorer.. go to...
(depending where your pictures are stored)
cut and paste the pictures contained in DCIM\100media\
into a new folder somewhere else on the storage card.. and it will no longer appear in the image gallery
nutmegy said:
using file explorer.. go to...
(depending where your pictures are stored)
cut and paste the pictures contained in DCIM\100media\
into a new folder somewhere else on the storage card.. and it will no longer appear in the image gallery
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That doesnt work, when i click "all albums" you can see those pictures.
Mate - have a look at this, in the hits & tips thread linked in my sig...
64. Disable Unwanted Folders From Showing in HTC Album
It just hides a folder from the album app. You can still manually browse to it with file explorer, for example, and open images from there.
Hope this helps
johncmolyneux said:
Mate - have a look at this, in the hits & tips thread linked in my sig...
64. Disable Unwanted Folders From Showing in HTC Album
It just hides a folder from the album app. You can still manually browse to it with file explorer, for example, and open images from there.
Hope this helps
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Thanks man =) that helped
lol i forgot to add that bit!!, anyway your "Friends" shouldn't be rooting around your phone anyway!!!! heheh
simple..send them to me and I'll hide them for you
twisted-pixel said:
simple..send them to me and I'll hide them for you
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Haha =D you wish
i edited thet registry key but i'm having troubles.. while it is actually hiding pictures in htc album, they are still showing up in manila's tab, am i doing something wrong?
WinRar the files. You can even put a password on it so that if you loose the phone no one can see the pics. I found it the easiest and most secure way to hide your girlfriends pictures.
RReckless
Free app to protect pictures
Hi,
Search for an app called FreeOTFE4PDA. It allows you to create a fully encrypted, password protected folder on your card. This can then be mounted as a storage card when needed. Within this you can create folder and do anything else you can do on a storage card. The important part is of course that you can not mount it if you do not know the password.
Regards
i run both windows and android, so what i'm trying to do is to hide android's gallery cache files (why did developers think that using readable jpg files as cache would be a good idea in the first place?)
that's the reason i want them to remain accessible for android use, but still don't want them to fill my windows photo tab with duplicates, so no rar storing can solve my problem
i fear i'll have to give up the 3d glory of android's gallery due to this stupid issue...
Use Total Commander, find the pictures, press & hold a picture, tap Properties, check the box "Hidden", press OK. The pictures can only be accessed through Total Commander.
It's a good thing my 900th post went to a good cause!
l30 said:
i run both windows and android, so what i'm trying to do is to hide android's gallery cache files (why did developers think that using readable jpg files as cache would be a good idea in the first place?)
that's the reason i want them to remain accessible for android use, but still don't want them to fill my windows photo tab with duplicates, so no rar storing can solve my problem
i fear i'll have to give up the 3d glory of android's gallery due to this stupid issue...
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That's exactly the problem i'm having. You just have to keep the photos rarred while you using android. Not the perfect solution, if you find a better 1 i'm interested too.
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1)Change the extension to some other (from jpg to ipg in example). So no one program will open it. When you need it change again to jpg.
2)make it hidden or system

Dropbox for Android - Access your pc files

I have just installed Dropbox on both my PCs and on my Desire. This is a great way of synching files between 2 computers without the need for emailing them to yourself or continually copying them between computers.
THe PC version is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTc1MjQzMTQ5
For the Andriod version search 'Dropbox' in the market.
With Dropbox on your Andriod you can access files from your home PC without having to actually have them installed on your device. Never forget a file again and save valuable space on your SD card!
How did I ever manage without it?!
If you install keepass on your android and pc and save the file to the dropbox folder, you can have a synced pc and phone password app.
Rob
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Excellent idea - I was already putting passwords in there, but better to have them protected!
Thanks for the tip!
The dropbox for android app is a bit useless. It only lets you upload certain file types. I was trying to upload a zip file. Why not just allow any file to be uploaded instead of showing you that silly menu of images, videos, music or text files (which didn't even work)? For the other way round, it is useful yes.
There is a work around (forgot it...) but yeah I agree... though it's only a beta, had to be expected.
The dropbox for android app is a bit useless. It only lets you upload certain file types. I was trying to upload a zip file. Why not just allow any file to be uploaded instead of showing you that silly menu of images, videos, music or text files (which didn't even work)? For the other way round, it is useful yes.
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My thoughts exactly. Sorely requiring updates. Basic rar, pdf, txt and such files don't even upload. Nor did vids with mine, after 2 hours on WiFi, the file size was still 0 KB. There's no obvious way to link to someone over Android for them to download the aud/vid (not stream, which it defaults to). At the moment, I'm only using it to manage already uploaded files from my PC/laptop, and to retrieve them from the phone.
As I've posted in previous threads, I've been using this app for just over 2 weeks now.
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Have you reached 8gigs of space now?
ascot17 said:
I have just installed Dropbox on both my PCs and on my Desire. This is a great way of synching files between 2 computers without the need for emailing them to yourself or continually copying them between computers.
THe PC version is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTc1MjQzMTQ5
For the Andriod version search 'Dropbox' in the market.
With Dropbox on your Andriod you can access files from your home PC without having to actually have them installed on your device. Never forget a file again and save valuable space on your SD card!
How did I ever manage without it?!
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th3 said:
My thoughts exactly. Sorely requiring updates. Basic rar, pdf, txt and such files don't even upload. Nor did vids with mine, after 2 hours on WiFi, the file size was still 0 KB. There's no obvious way to link to someone over Android for them to download the aud/vid (not stream, which it defaults to). At the moment, I'm only using it to manage already uploaded files from my PC/laptop, and to retrieve them from the phone.
As I've posted in previous threads, I've been using this app for just over 2 weeks now.
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ya, dropbox app for android pretty much sucks, but you can download Droidbox from the market, which allows you to upload all kinds of files, even the ones in the cell memory
https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTc4MDcyNzg5
There if you guys want, you can sign up and get me 250 more megs!!! :$ I'd appreciate it!!
zkyevolved said:
https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTc4MDcyNzg5
There if you guys want, you can sign up and get me 250 more megs!!! :$ I'd appreciate it!!
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Estrongs file manager is ALL you need, plus no restrictions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680992

Odd gallery issue

My gallery app has a horrible tendency of creating folders that definitely don't exist on my internal memory.
I have at least 20 folders simply named things like:
1
10
11
12
15
18
This has been going on for a while now, but it's never REALLY bothered me until now. Any idea how to fix it?
This happens to me sometimes. I think they are thumbnails from the web or some other source.
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I agree ^
One of your apps might be creating folders, to name a few examples Heroes of Sparta creates a folder with a new video. NFS downloads a whole bunch of music, Bestube downloads a lot of pictures (useless), etc. So it might not be the gallery but a third party app.
It's not any of my apps.
The pictures in that folder are pictures I've taken with my camera or downloaded from people who have texted them to me. They just appear as duplicates in the gallery, even though when I look at the files on the memory stick and phone, they only exist once in the Camera/Downloads folder.
Edit: Some of these pictures SHOULD be in my downloads folder because I saved them from an MMS but aren't.
I can't seem to find the folder they're actually stored IN, though...
You can try backing up the files you know you want to keep, format the internal sd through the phone, then restore your files. That should remove any dupes on your sd. You may want to do the same with the external sd as well.
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Br1cK'd said:
You can try backing up the files you know you want to keep, format the internal sd through the phone, then restore your files. That should remove any dupes on your sd. You may want to do the same with the external sd as well.
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That's a great idea, thanks!
Before I do that though, there are pictures that SHOULD be in the downloads folder, but are in those weird folders. However, I can't find those anywhere with any file managers. Any idea how to find those pictures and move them to the downloads folder?
Guticb said:
That's a great idea, thanks!
Before I do that though, there are pictures that SHOULD be in the downloads folder, but are in those weird folders. However, I can't find those anywhere with any file managers. Any idea how to find those pictures and move them to the downloads folder?
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That I don't have a clue, I'm ocd about my files, they get put where I need them as soon as they hit my phone. If you're seeing them in the gallery, they have to be stored somewhere, sorry I can't offer any advice on that part.
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New to smartphone, various questions

I have several questions that hopefully some of you could answer for me.
1. I tried to put some .pdf's on my phone via PC cable. I placed them under "Download" folder. But they do not appear there. Other .pdf's which I have downloaded with the phone are there, but the ones I copy there via PC do not appear up.
2. When using google maps, is it not possible to set a destination or target by using the map, and without having to actually know the address? Just like dekstop google maps "From here/To here"
3. Is it not possible to navigate by only using the GPS? It makes no sence really to require an internet connection as I have saved parts of the map in use for offline use. I tried the navigation but it wouldn't find the destination.
4. I would like to set "Tasks", but I could not find a proper way to do it. When I do it via calendar, the reminder is not a proper alarm (just a small ding or so, very easy to miss). Id like an alarm similiar to the watch alarm.
5. I've read several methods to root my phone. Which one is the easiest and "cleanest"? And a way to allow me to un-root my phone right after. Would this be a good guide: http://www.howtogeek.com/115297/how-to-root-your-android-why-you-might-want-to/
And should I unlock the bootloader?
6. Does the phone not have the stock capability to record sound? And to record a phone conversation? I come from a flip phone, and those did. Do I really need an app for that?
Thank you all.
I. Send the .pdf's to your email instead. Very easy. Or save them to your sd card.
2. To set a destination jurt long press where you want to go and a menu will pop up. From the menu you can choose route or navigation. You can then input the from address.
3. You can navigate using just the map - follow the blue line- without a data connection as long as you input and download the from and to adress before you swithch of the data connection.
4. I do not use tasks so much but the Google calendar works for me and the reminder is loud enough. I even get an email with sound as a reminder.
5. I can't help you here. I have a Note II and see no reason to root…just yet.
Hope this helps.
^Since he can't answer 5, I'll try. Firstly do NOT use a toolkit. They may be the easiest way of rooting, but if you run into issues (and trust me, if you take advantage of root you probably will at some point) a toolkit won't help you at all. Take the time to do it manually, so that when it comes to the worst you'll know how to sort your phone out. If you look in the stickied threads there's definitely a full guide somewhere (I think in the N4 General forum).
Thanks for the replies.
1. Thata is not really an options. I have some pdf's several mb's big. Nexus 4 also does not have an SD card. There must be a folder where I should place them (or any other files for that matter). I copied over my music and video files in the appropriate directories and those work fine.
2,3. Without internet, I only get "Loading address..." or "Getting driving directions" loading sign, and just stays that way. My location is found via GPS, and the map grid is saved for offline usage. When I save the map grid, does that not save all the addresses in that grid?
I have also added another question in the OP.
Messerschmitt262 said:
Thanks for the replies.
1. Thata is not really an options. I have some pdf's several mb's big. Nexus 4 also does not have an SD card. There must be a folder where I should place them (or any other files for that matter). I copied over my music and video files in the appropriate directories and those work fine.
2,3. Without internet, I only get "Loading address..." or "Getting driving directions" loading sign, and just stays that way. My location is found via GPS, and the map grid is saved for offline usage. When I save the map grid, does that not save all the addresses in that grid?
I have also added another question in the OP.
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1) Do they appear on your PC ? Can you see them with a file explorer (ES File Explorer, for example) ?
2/3) To set a destination, you have to be connected to the internet, whatever you do. I think it's because Maps need internet to set the itinerary and download the part's map that will be cached on your device.
5) I think too that rooting it manually is the best solution.
6) No, it's not possible without having to install an app. If you wan to, I suggest you to install Hi-Q MP3 Recorder. The Lite version should be enough, unless you want to record 10+ minutes. I don't have a clue about recording a phone conversation.
Pickout said:
1) Do they appear on your PC ? Can you see them with a file explorer (ES File Explorer, for example) ?
2/3) To set a destination, you have to be connected to the internet, whatever you do. I think it's because Maps need internet to set the itinerary and download the part's map that will be cached on your device.
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Yes they appear in my phone "Download" directory when I look at it via Windows Explorer on my PC. Maybe they need to be put in another directory and not "Download"? Like videos go into Video. And pictures into DCIM/Camera
Slightly disappointing in regards to the navigation. I guess I'm SOL if I go outside of coverage area . I mean I'l have the map and GPS location, but I'l have to manually navigate, and keep looking at my phone while driving...
When you want to open a .PDF from your phone, do you use a file explorer or a PDF viewer ?
Pickout said:
When you want to open a .PDF from your phone, do you use a file explorer or a PDF viewer ?
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You need something that can decode and display PDFs, i.e. some sort of PDF viewer.
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steviewevie said:
You need something that can decode and display PDFs, i.e. some sort of PDF reader.
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Yes but some PDF viewers require you to put the PDF files in a specific folder. For example, adobe reader will only "see" files in Download/Adobe Reader but you can change settings so that you can search your PDF through a built-in explorer.
Pickout said:
Yes but some PDF viewers require you to put the PDF files in a specific folder. For example, adobe reader will only "see" files in Download/Adobe Reader but you can change settings so that you can search your PDF through a built-in explorer.
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If you use a file explorer to try and open a PDF, then if you haven't set a file type association, the OS will ask you which program you want to use to open it, then you can choose Adobe Reader. It doesn't matter if it isn't in a particular folder.
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steviewevie said:
If you use a file explorer to try and open a PDF, then if you haven't set a file type association, the OS will ask you which program you want to use to open it, then you can choose Adobe Reader. It doesn't matter if it isn't in a particular folder.
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Yep, that's why I asked him if he was using a file explorer or a PDF viewer
PDF Viewer on the phone you mean?
On the phone, when I go to downloads (the only location I know off where I can view PDF's), apparently it uses Quickoffice to open those PDF's (the one I donwloaded). As I mentioned it does not see PDF's I put there manually via the USB cable from my PC -> Nexus 4 via Windows Explorer.
Just to make sure there isn't any confussion, I can see the PDF I put on my phone in Windows Explorer. But when I use my phone, that PDF will not show up in my "Download".
Is there another place I should put it?
So move the PDFs to a different folder and try again. All I know is I can view them using Adobe Reader in any folder
And if it still not working download adobe viewer and try with.
At last, you could download a file explorer app such as ES explorer and open your file with it, it will ask you which app do you want to open the file with
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Messerschmitt262 said:
PDF Viewer on the phone you mean?
On the phone, when I go to downloads (the only location I know off where I can view PDF's), apparently it uses Quickoffice to open those PDF's (the one I donwloaded). As I mentioned it does not see PDF's I put there manually via the USB cable from my PC -> Nexus 4 via Windows Explorer.
Just to make sure there isn't any confussion, I can see the PDF I put on my phone in Windows Explorer. But when I use my phone, that PDF will not show up in my "Download".
Is there another place I should put it?
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The Nexus 4 quickoffice is just a file viewer (it doesn't even have an app icon), so you'll need to use another application to locate your files to open them in Quickoffice.
I recommend using Astro or ES. I've used both and absolutely love them.
Obligatory Sales pitch: There's also a file manager built into the Quickoffice Pro app (and you can connect cloud accounts too) - It's available for $15 here, and it supports PDF annotation for Adobe 5-9 files.
yep that was the problem. I have installed ES and now I can access my phone files just like on my computer (why wouldnt this be standard?)
I have also installed adobe reader, so I could found the .pdf file too via that app.
Thanks.
Quick side question: I have set-up an email account using the "Email" built in app. However, it changed some privacy settings (stuff like being able to change phone settings, etc) and I clicked accept. Now I would like to review them. Where would those be found? I checked all options in the "Email" app but couldn't find anything.
Messerschmitt262 said:
yep that was the problem. I have installed ES and now I can access my phone files just like on my computer (why wouldnt this be standard?)
I have also installed adobe reader, so I could found the .pdf file too via that app.
Thanks.
Quick side question: I have set-up an email account using the "Email" built in app. However, it changed some privacy settings (stuff like being able to change phone settings, etc) and I clicked accept. Now I would like to review them. Where would those be found? I checked all options in the "Email" app but couldn't find anything.
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I think (and mind you this is all my own thoughts through observation/reading news), Google is working towards a life in the "cloud", so storage on the device itself kind of defeats the purpose. there's Drive for file management and gdocs, Quickoffice for when you need Office, Google Play Music, Books, Movies, etc.
You can review app permissions under Settings>Applications>All, then select the application you'd like to see the permissions for.
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I have several questions that hopefully some of you could answer for me. [...]
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3: Google maps uses internet to calculate the best route to your destination. While you can view your location offline, any searching does not work - in other words, the actual addresses are not stored in your phone. Only the "picture" of the map is.
4: you can download some app (any.do is awesome), or set the calendar notification sound to something longer. It will still be only a popup, but it will "ring" for longer.
6. yup, you have to find an app for that..
About navigation, as soon as your phone has calculated the route you can turn data off. As someone have said, Google Maps use data for calculating the fastest route, but afterwards only GPS is required to track your position.
I just got my N4 a few days ago and used this guide to root my phone (stupid easy to follow... even has a video if you need it)
Click HERE
Unfortunately, Android doesn't offer a free offline navigation system like Nokia did (OVI maps was great!) but there are some paid alternatives in Android.
I bought Sygic (http://www.sygic.com/en) and it allows you to download all the maps onto your phone and navigate without internet. Maps for Germany are about 700MB. If you are in the US for example, you can just d/l by State.
Hope that helps!
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wngmv said:
About navigation, as soon as your phone has calculated the route you can turn data off. As someone have said, Google Maps use data for calculating the fastest route, but afterwards only GPS is required to track your position.
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Doesn't Google need internet to recalculate if you zoom in or zoom out?

Kit Kat 4.4 and external SD cards

I have read and I like the new restrictions on "external SD card" use. It will prevent a lot of apps from leaving crapola all over your device.
It does not restrict your use of data etc. It just keeps you organized. If you want to uninstall an app and still keep its data, you can simply move the data to a new folder.
mangurian said:
I have read and I like the new restrictions on "external SD card" use. It will prevent a lot of apps from leaving crapola all over your device.
It does not restrict your use of data etc. It just keeps you organized. If you want to uninstall an app and still keep its data, you can simply move the data to a new folder.
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You must be stock and unrooted....Kit Kat is a major pain in the rear to root users..
jauger said:
You must be stock and unrooted....Kit Kat is a major pain in the rear to root users..
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True - I only root my devices when they are out-dated.
I don't think the 8013 has reached that point yet.
I am still happy with its performance.
But what I am understanding is apps are corralled to their own folders. This implies to me that some I rely on will cease to work. Example:
I use folder sync to keep lecture notes synced between my 10.1 and S4. By my read of KitKat, folder sync will be prohibited from writing to the lecture notes folder.
What about photos? Different apps to adjust photos depending on what I want to do.
And what about ES File Explorer. Won't it become useless?
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jauger said:
You must be stock and unrooted....Kit Kat is a major pain in the rear to root users..
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Sorry if I may be asking the obvious, but in what way is KitKat a pain for root users?
starbuckk said:
But what I am understanding is apps are corralled to their own folders. This implies to me that some I rely on will cease to work. Example:
I use folder sync to keep lecture notes synced between my 10.1 and S4. By my read of KitKat, folder sync will be prohibited from writing to the lecture notes folder.
What about photos? Different apps to adjust photos depending on what I want to do.
And what about ES File Explorer. Won't it become useless?
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We don't have all the answers, but I'd bet dollars to donuts there will, at least, be work-arounds" for any on these problems.
mangurian said:
We don't have all the answers, but I'd bet dollars to donuts there will, at least, be work-arounds" for any on these problems.
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There aren't. I've had KitKat since weeks after release (S4 GPe). I've been in touch with many developers and made them aware of the issue before it went mainstream. Bottom line, here's the limitation in the simplest of terms.
-An app can read any file on the MicroSD Card.
-An app can only modify contents within a self contained subfolder
So, file managers won't work if stock and unrooted (read only, no writing). FolderSync doesn't work. ES doesn't work (it will tell you that it created/deleted/modified the folder, but then when you refresh, the change never happened).
A good example of how this works would be with a bare bones gallery application. If you store your photos in a random folder within the SD card, the Gallery app can view them. However, if you try to delete a picture, it will only remove from the gallery and remain on the SD card. After a device reboot, it will reappear in the gallery (this also happens with Google Photos and the stock Gallery app).
Another way to do this would be for the gallery app to copy all photos to the gallery subfolder and ignore photos outside of this folder. And if you remove the app? Photos are gone (except what was at the original location). But, this just causes duplication issues.
Lastly, applications can be given permission to read/write to VERY specific ContentProviders and folders. So eventually, you'll have a shared folder called "Pictures" that any gallery application can modify as needed. However, this function is, again, for very specific usage and still prevents file managing apps from doing what they're intended to do.
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There aren't. I've had KitKat since weeks after release (S4 GPe). I've been in touch with many developers and made them aware of the issue before it went mainstream. Bottom line, here's the limitation in the simplest of terms.
-An app can read any file on the MicroSD Card.
-An app can only modify contents within a self contained subfolder
So, file managers won't work if stock and unrooted (read only, no writing). FolderSync doesn't work. ES doesn't work (it will tell you that it created/deleted/modified the folder, but then when you refresh, the change never happened).
A good example of how this works would be with a bare bones gallery application. If you store your photos in a random folder within the SD card, the Gallery app can view them. However, if you try to delete a picture, it will only remove from the gallery and remain on the SD card. After a device reboot, it will reappear in the gallery (this also happens with Google Photos and the stock Gallery app).
Another way to do this would be for the gallery app to copy all photos to the gallery subfolder and ignore photos outside of this folder. And if you remove the app? Photos are gone (except what was at the original location). But, this just causes duplication issues.
Lastly, applications can be given permission to read/write to VERY specific ContentProviders and folders. So eventually, you'll have a shared folder called "Pictures" that any gallery application can modify as needed. However, this function is, again, for very specific usage and still prevents file managing apps from doing what they're intended to do.
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Seems like the android team need to add some sort of "firewall" implementation, for apps users WANT their old ability back and still provide their users with this security for the majority of their other apps, it doesnt have to be all or nothing, .......make the most secured option as default, for basic users, while giving the power users the option to "fine tune" it, i.e. the "firewall" analogy
jaykresge said:
There aren't. I've had KitKat since weeks after release (S4 GPe). I've been in touch with many developers and made them aware of the issue before it went mainstream. Bottom line, here's the limitation in the simplest of terms.
-An app can read any file on the MicroSD Card.
-An app can only modify contents within a self contained subfolder
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Just to be clear, if I write an app and want to write (not modify) to an external SD card I must write to the self contained folder.
Is that correct?
mangurian said:
I have read and I like the new restrictions on "external SD card" use. It will prevent a lot of apps from leaving crapola all over your device.
It does not restrict your use of data etc. It just keeps you organized. If you want to uninstall an app and still keep its data, you can simply move the data to a new folder.
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I don't see how you think it doesn't restrict a user's data but keeps the card organised, when I have all my data (a LOT of work PDFs and docs, plus some photos), all nicely filed away and synchronised with my NAS, and other tablets; and now I cannot do this. I cannot organise my content at all (actually I am struggling even to put it on the SD card, except by taking it out out plugging it into a USB adapter into my PC). Until now, I have never had any apps leave crapola on my SD card. I used to be able to save lecture recordings direct to a nice "recordings" file on the SD card. Now it has to put it somewhere obscure (android/data/.somthingrandomthatisapaintofind).
It seems this works on some apps and not on others. For example foldersync doesn't seem to be able to write to the external sd card anymore, nor does X-plore, however, Es file Explorer seems to be fine about it, and happily writes files to the sdcard?! So if ES can do it, why can't the others?
jenacadabra said:
I don't see how you think it doesn't restrict a user's data but keeps the card organised, when I have all my data (a LOT of work PDFs and docs, plus some photos), all nicely filed away and synchronised with my NAS, and other tablets; and now I cannot do this. I cannot organise my content at all (actually I am struggling even to put it on the SD card, except by taking it out out plugging it into a USB adapter into my PC). Until now, I have never had any apps leave crapola on my SD card. I used to be able to save lecture recordings direct to a nice "recordings" file on the SD card. Now it has to put it somewhere obscure (android/data/.somthingrandomthatisapaintofind).
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I'm on kitkat for over month now and I don't know what is big buzz about. I did not notice any different behavior from my external card. I can read and write whatever I want using pc explorer. Es works fine. Stock my files is fine too. So can somebody explain problem litte more please?
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norbarb said:
I'm on kitkat for over month now and I don't know what is big buzz about. I did not notice any different behavior from my external card. I can read and write whatever I want using pc explorer. Es works fine. Stock my files is fine too. So can somebody explain problem litte more please?
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I see - you are just using the USB cable I assume. The functionality I have lost is to:
a) wirelessly synchronise multiple pdf/document files in multiple folders and multiple subfolders, whether edited on the Note or on PC (or both).
b) Used a file management app to organise files & folders on my home network between my PC and external SD card. It was even able to wirelessly copy my work direct from the NAS.
None of the apps I used stored any files on my SD card and because they have taken away my access to my SD card I cannot sync my files properly. I realise I could just plug the cable in, but that is not practicable when I am editing 100s of documents in 100s of different subfolders a day - an automatic sync is fantastic. Android is strongly geared towards the "leisure" side of the market and I am going to have to take another look at Windows tablets if they don't fix this (except I would miss the S Pen!)
The_mitch said:
It seems this works on some apps and not on others. For example foldersync doesn't seem to be able to write to the external sd card anymore, nor does X-plore, however, Es file Explorer seems to be fine about it, and happily writes files to the sdcard?! So if ES can do it, why can't the others?
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What device are you using that can write to SD using ES? I have the Galaxy S4 GPe (i9505G) and ES cannot do anything with the SD Card.
Have you updated ES? I heard they upated to fix it.
As I understand there is something called storage access framework that is supposed to be the replacement for direct file access.
I haven't seen kitkat. FolderSync is my biggest concern.
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jaykresge said:
What device are you using that can write to SD using ES? I have the Galaxy S4 GPe (i9505G) and ES cannot do anything with the SD Card.
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I'm on a Samsung galaxy note 3, with kitkat 4.4.2 and ES file Explorer 3.1.1
Yes, thanks to a post somewhere on XDA I am now using ES file manager, which as you say, will work with the ExtSD on Kitkat (though I still prefer Astro myself).
I still can't sync my content though which is the bigger problem. I used to use SyncMe. A fantastically easy to set up App that would seamlessly sync content across multiple devices (still works fine on my Note 8). I can't find anything to replace this at present.
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The_mitch said:
I'm on a Samsung galaxy note 3, with kitkat 4.4.2 and ES file Explorer 3.1.1
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What ROM are you using? Are you on stock 4.4.2 OTA without root?
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What ROM are you using? Are you on stock 4.4.2 OTA without root?
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Yes, stock unrooted Samsung kitkat 4.2.2
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Yes, stock unrooted Samsung kitkat 4.2.2
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On my device, ES 3.1.1 allows me to create a folder but I cannot edit or delete the folder. I cannot create, edit, or delete files. If I delete folders, they will initially disappear, but will not actually delete. They reappear upon a refresh.

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