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Hello everyone,
Today I have root my i9500 today through this topic http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...exynos5-root-android422-xxuamde-jellybean.htm
I did this because I want to flash to another country firmware. So I root the phone and I flash it back to an official firmware. When I go to Dowload Mode to check the binary counter status, I see this :
Current binary: samsung official
System status: official
how is it possible? I thought that when we root the device once, the counter is not zero anymore, do I miss something? Is there somewhere else that showing Binary Counter? Could the Current binary be official even if the counter is not zero?
Can we reset the binary counter with Triangle Away for the i9500? People report that it works for i9505, but does someone try if it works for i9500?
Thank you in advance.
I think binary counter increases when we use twrp or cwm
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Madawcisrich said:
Hello everyone,
Today I have root my i9500 today through this topic http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...exynos5-root-android422-xxuamde-jellybean.htm
I did this because I want to flash to another country firmware. So I root the phone and I flash it back to an official firmware. When I go to Dowload Mode to check the binary counter status, I see this :
Current binary: samsung official
System status: official
how is it possible? I thought that when we root the device once, the counter is not zero anymore, do I miss something? Is there somewhere else that showing Binary Counter? Could the Current binary be official even if the counter is not zero?
Can we reset the binary counter with Triangle Away for the i9500? People report that it works for i9505, but does someone try if it works for i9500?
Thank you in advance.
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Triangle Away only works on the I9505 atm unfortunately.
Zahid Ali said:
I think binary counter increases when we use twrp or cwm
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Thank you for your answer. Sorry for my noobiness, but I don't know what is twrp. So clearly, does my counter increase or not? If i send my phone to samsung, will they notify that I have already root once my phone? Thank you in advance
Zahid Ali said:
I think binary counter increases when we use twrp or cwm
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It will always say 1 after each reboot if you have custom recovery, even if you could reset the counter to 0.
gee2012 said:
It will always say 1 after each reboot if you have custom recovery, even if you could reset the counter to 0.
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So you mean that my counter is zero now, since my binary status is samsung official?
Madawcisrich said:
So you mean that my counter is zero now, since my binary status is samsung official?
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No, it is most probably 1. Most servicecenters however rarely check the counter. I once turned in a rooted S2 with a custom rom on it and it got fixed under warranty. They wipe it and reflash a stock rom after repair.
binary counter is hidden in s4
you do not need to root for flashing official firmware!
samersh72 said:
binary counter is hidden in s4
you do not need to root for flashing official firmware!
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Correct, didn`t know that. First time on a Samsung device
Does the counter show up in Triangle Away on the I9505?
samersh72 said:
binary counter is hidden in s4
you do not need to root for flashing official firmware!
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ha, didn't know that. So according to you, will I have some problem if I return the phone to Samsung?
Madawcisrich said:
ha, didn't know that. So according to you, will I have some problem if I return the phone to Samsung?
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flashing unsigned stuff by samsung (cwm, rom..) via odin only, turn your status to custom and increase binary counter. i see that your status is official. but i think you dont have 0 count since when you rooted your phone you used odin.
if samsung look at your counter, so there is a problem
samersh72 said:
flashing unsigned stuff by samsung (cwm, rom..) via odin only, turn your status to custom and increase binary counter. i see that your status is official. but i think you dont have 0 count since when you rooted your phone you used odin.
if samsung look at your counter, so there is a problem
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So at the moment there is no solution for the i9500 to reset the counter to 0, right?
Madawcisrich said:
So at the moment there is no solution for the i9500 to reset the counter to 0, right?
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not by using triangle away (waiting CF for solution). but i dont know if there is other solution. search
Hi all ,
I have bought a new device which is I9500 and I ve been thinking about rooting it.
My device is still in warranty and I want to ask if there is a way to root it (like a zip file to install in stock recovery) without increasing the binary counter as there is no way yet to reset it.
Anyone to help ?
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Styrke said:
Hi all ,
I have bought a new device which is I9500 and I ve been thinking about rooting it.
My device is still in warranty and I want to ask if there is a way to root it (like a zip file to install in stock recovery) without increasing the binary counter as there is no way yet to reset it.
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Well. As Of Now There is No Way to Reset or even See the Hidden Binary Counter for I9500. So if you root Using Either the CF-Root method or Coffaces method the Binary Counter would Increase. The Officali Status would also Change but that we can Change.
manu44 said:
Well. As Of Now There is No Way to Reset or even See the Hidden Binary Counter for I9500. So if you root Using Either the CF-Root method or Coffaces method the Binary Counter would Increase. The Officali Status would also Change but that we can Change.
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Thanks for your response.
I got an idea that I want to try which is taking stock pda extract it adding su file then tar it and finally md5 signing it.Will this make the device think that its an non modified stock rom ?
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Styrke said:
Thanks for your response.
I got an idea that I want to try which is taking stock pda extract it adding su file then tar it and finally md5 signing it.Will this make the device think that its an non modified stock rom ?
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That is already done by XDA member Head over to this Post
You Can download the Pre-rooted Firmware of your choice and even he has given the Software to Make Tar Files.
manu44 said:
That is already done by XDA member Head over to this Post
You Can download the Pre-rooted Firmware of your choice and even he has given the Software to Make Tar Files.
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Actually Ive done many searchs without finding anything usefull. Thanks for the links.:thumbup:
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Styrke said:
Actually Ive done many searchs without finding anything usefull. Thanks for the links.:thumbup:
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I would say use Pre rooted firmware or use CF root method and enjoy Roms mods etc
Mostly chainfire should come with a option of TA for i9500 finger crossed
manu44 said:
Well. As Of Now There is No Way to Reset or even See the Hidden Binary Counter for I9500. So if you root Using Either the CF-Root method or Coffaces method the Binary Counter would Increase. The Officali Status would also Change but that we can Change.
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Bump up... Has this been fixed ? how can i view the binary counter count i9500 E300S ? Thanks
Hello guys, i have recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I switched from ios to android and i am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions: I want to root my device. Does this affect the binary counter? Also if i have a problem with my device and i have warranty, will i be able to format my device (un-root)? Also will this affect binary counter? I don't want to loose my 2 years warranty. Thanks!
PS: While i was on IOS i received a lot of support on reddit but when i asked for android stuff, i never got any response. Is this the right forum for a beginner like me?
Arjoni said:
Hello guys, i have recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I switched from ios to android and i am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions: I want to root my device. Does this affect the binary counter? Also if i have a problem with my device and i have warranty, will i be able to format my device (un-root)? Also will this affect binary counter? I don't want to loose my 2 years warranty. Thanks!
PS: While i was on IOS i received a lot of support on reddit but when i asked for android stuff, i never got any response. Is this the right forum for a beginner like me?
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1)Yes rooting will affect your binary counter.
2) Yes you can unroot your device to gain back warranty.
BUT the binary counter is HIDDEN!
So you can just reset the STATUS(which is official for stock n custom for unofficial)
There is an app called Triangle away which resets this counter but it only available for i9505 n not for i9500.
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
AIkizov said:
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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Yes absolutely a problem. I forgot to mention it. If any unofficial stuff is flashed then this knox pox is triggered.
Mandark52 said:
1)Yes rooting will affect your binary counter.
2) Yes you can unroot your device to gain back warranty.
BUT the binary counter is HIDDEN!
So you can just reset the STATUS(which is official for stock n custom for unofficial)
There is an app called Triangle away which resets this counter but it only available for i9505 n not for i9500.
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AIkizov said:
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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Where do you live? In the UK, for example, (and I believe the EU as a whole) then it doesn't matter if you trip Knox.
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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First have a look on the stickies of Knox discussion. You wont get official software updates if you trip knox(as recovery is custom aftr rooting) n there are knox friendly rooting methods. But I dont really care about knox and after rooting it is upto you that you aint flashing anything wrong or not following the instructions. All the best.
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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I personally am currently with stock firmware
Twice my phone was in service for Knox experiments that I did
Had twice to change the motherboard, but it was replaced under warranty because I have a version that my phone and just motherboard died and there is nothing to see in the Samsung service centre
Knox is a major obstacle
The choice is yours
andyjg247 said:
Where do you live? In the UK, for example, (and I believe the EU as a whole) then it doesn't matter if you trip Knox.
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Mandark52 said:
First have a look on the stickies of Knox discussion. You wont get official software updates if you trip knox(as recovery is custom aftr rooting) n there are knox friendly rooting methods. But I dont really care about knox and after rooting it is upto you that you aint flashing anything wrong or not following the instructions. All the best.
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AIkizov said:
I personally am currently with stock firmware
Twice my phone was in service for Knox experiments that I did
Had twice to change the motherboard, but it was replaced under warranty because I have a version that my phone and just motherboard died and there is nothing to see in the Samsung service centre
Knox is a major obstacle
The choice is yours
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i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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your warranty will void
AIkizov said:
your warranty will void
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so samsung doesn't allow you to format your device? well i think i am going back to ios... -_-
Arjoni said:
so samsung doesn't allow you to format your device? well i think i am going back to ios... -_-
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have the ability to format, but the stock rom allows do not have permission to freely manipulate software - Void your warranty
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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As I said previously that you should know what are you flashing and what will happen after it. If you flash anything by not following the correct procedure then you ll pay for it. I rooted my s4 3 months ago and immediately took a backup of my OS through a custom recovery. This backup helps me if something gets wrong. And I really dont care about about Knox because what you lose is only OTA updates and nothing else. So after rooting even you can backup your OS n stay on stock as long you want. Choice is yours. All the best.
Mandark52 said:
As I said previously that you should know what are you flashing and what will happen after it. If you flash anything by not following the correct procedure then you ll pay for it. I rooted my s4 3 months ago and immediately took a backup of my OS through a custom recovery. This backup helps me if something gets wrong. And I really dont care about about Knox because what you lose is only OTA updates and nothing else. So after rooting even you can backup your OS n stay on stock as long you want. Choice is yours. All the best.
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Triggered Knox not prevent for receive OTA updates
AIkizov said:
Triggered Knox not prevent for receive OTA updates
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As stock recovery of the phone changes there will be no OTA updates for that device it ll say THE DEVICE SETTINGS HAS BEEN CHANGED or something similar to it. And stock recovery is replaced by philz touch or cwm while rooting. And side by side this knox pox is also triggered.
Mandark52 said:
As stock recovery of the phone changes there will be no OTA updates for that device it ll say THE DEVICE SETTINGS HAS BEEN CHANGED or something similar to it. And stock recovery is replaced by philz touch or cwm while rooting. And side by side this knox pox is also triggered.
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now just talking about root that does not alter RecoverŅ
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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If your warranty will be void depends strongly on in which country you live. There is no yes or no answer.
Flash anything but an official Samsung package through Odin and it will trigger the Knox flag and change the device status to Custom. OTA updates will stop.
Re flashing an official Samsung package afterwards will change the device back to Official and OTA updates will resume. But the Knox flag will still show as triggered. Theres no way to reset it.
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Hello,
i have SM-N900 Galaxy Note 3 with Exynos processor, i got this phone around 6 months or more. In these past 6 months, i never root doing any tweaks with Odin / any other HH tweaker because i dont have the courage to do so. I want to root it since i have this phone, but knowing there is Knox tripping and such, i never try to root.
And then, i just read some articles to check out your Knox warranty, because i'm curious about 'if' there is any Knox Warranty void on Exynos version, i tried to install Phone Info - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo - and then i checked out, my Knox warranty void is 0x1.
I also getting inside Odin Mode, and the Knox warranty Void is 1, but my Phone status is Samsung Official, the rest is Official.
I read this helpful post to reset KNOX counter on SM-N900: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52329946&nocache=1 , on those steps, it said it needs to flash Stock ROM to remove the Custom status of your device to back into Official, after you flash the bootloader for resetting Knox warranty void.
Question:
1) I wonder, can we only go through the 1st step, just only flash the bootloader with odin to my Galaxy note 3, only to reset the Knox warranty void back to 0, without flashing the stock Rom afterwards? because i don't want to wipe out my phone and lost all my data (I know i can backup it via Kies), and my phone status is already Official.
2) Does flashing the bootloader itself, will wipe your data inside your phone?
Thanks before for any answers!
Hello, sorry for bumping my thread, just hope someone can answer the questions
djangosteen said:
Hello, sorry for bumping my thread, just hope someone can answer the questions
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if i am not wrong ... and as i used to do with note 1 back then
installing a stock rom over another stock rom does not require to wipe data but maybe this is different since u have to flash a bootloader
sorry ... i know i did not help much
Its imposible to reset Knox from 0x1 to 0x0. Unfortunately.
passenger77 said:
if i am not wrong ... and as i used to do with note 1 back then
installing a stock rom over another stock rom does not require to wipe data but maybe this is different since u have to flash a bootloader
sorry ... i know i did not help much
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So it won't remove my data at all?
verny94 said:
Its imposible to reset Knox from 0x1 to 0x0. Unfortunately.
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Only SM-N900 device working, other version like SM-N9005 isn't working (link provided above is already tested), i tried to PM that guy who does the trick, but still no respond.
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djangosteen said:
So it won't remove my data at all?
as i said .. if u install a stock rom over another one . u dont have to wie data at all and u wont lose any thing ..
but since u gona use another file with the stock rom (( the bootloader )))
u better see the steps for this way .. maybe it is require ti wipe and format .
better ask the man who wrote that ........
Only SM-N900 device working, other version like SM-N9005 isn't working (link provided above is already tested), i tried to PM that guy who does the trick, but still no respond.
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RuchRha has given all the instruction in his thread...just follow them...also check my post in q&a section...you may need the official firmware with bootloader file.
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so....if I reset knox counter and put everything to official will it reset my flash counter?and will I bee able to use knox again??
This guy is resetting knox back to 0x0 on he's exynos note 3. Looks real, should it work on a snapdragon note 3?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vmvuixd3LY
TonyM77 said:
This guy is resetting knox back to 0x0 on he's exynos note 3. Looks real, should it work on a snapdragon note 3?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vmvuixd3LY
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No
Sent from my leanKernel 3.13 powered stock 4.4.2 (NF9) SM-N900T
Hey to me it seems that it does not factory reset the device until you have to move on to the the step
See this link: http://blog.flexispy.com/how-to-downgrade-a-samsung-galaxy-note-3-from-os-4-4-2-to-4-3/
Scroll down to where they begin flashing the bootloader itself. They instruct you to wipe after the bootloader is flashed.
Only way to find to find out is to just do it.
How did Kox get tripped btw? You said you never rooted mainly because of that reason.
If it is already tripped you should just root it, install cwm, do a nandroid backup and try the method in the second link you posted.
So if it fails you just recover your nandroid backup and back to square one.
Hope this helps!
Hi. I have a question about knox counter or any other method that samsung use to find if i rooted my phone.
If i change my ROM to cm12 is there any way i can reset some counter to restore my warranty? I want to try CM12 but i don't really lose my warranty because alot can happen in 1.5 years and if something happens, will i be able to reinstall stock firmware and restore warranty?
BloodStream said:
Hi. I have a question about knox counter or any other method that samsung use to find if i rooted my phone.
If i change my ROM to cm12 is there any way i can reset some counter to restore my warranty? I want to try CM12 but i don't really lose my warranty because alot can happen in 1.5 years and if something happens, will i be able to reinstall stock firmware and restore warranty?
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Use Triangle Away
Triangle Away won't work on devices with Knox counter