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First things first, if you flashed a previous version of Clockwork Recovery using Odin, FLASH BACK TO A STOCK KERNEL using this Odin package:
http://koush.tandtgaming.com//test/kernel-captivate-stock.tar.md5
This recovery is *very* safe to use. It does NOT flash your kernel; it is a completely uninvasive recovery method.
How it works: The recovery is packaged as an update.zip that you run from STOCK recovery. The update.zip unpacks Clockwork Recovery onto the ramdisk and restarts recovery. When you reboot, it reverts back to the original, unmodified, stock recovery. So, you will need to keep the recovery on the root of your SD card as an update.zip, and apply the zip every time you want to start Clockwork.
HOWEVER, if you use ROM Manager, all of the recovery installation and management instructions are done for you!
Installation instructions:
Download ROM Manager from the Market.
Flash Recovery.
Choose Captivate as your phone.
Accept the Superuser prompt.
Use ROM Manager to create a Backup.
On the very FIRST boot of Clockwork, you may need to manually select "reinstall packages" if Clockwork does not start. You should only ever have to do this once. It will be automatic from then on.
Watch the backup go!
That's it! This is completely painless and safe! There is no need for Odin anymore to replace the recovery or flash updates!
If you appreciate my work, please buy the Premium version of ROM Manager!
Sweet!
Nandroid'd!
Ah yeah....smooth like butter baby!!! Great work once again. Remember to donate people!!!
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Ah yeah....smooth like butter baby!!! Great work once again. Remember to donate people!!!
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For us Noobs, can we get more information on where and when to use this?
In reading everything I get some of it, but not all. This is my first hackable android phone, so I am still learning the lingo.
With other phones, I would just Flash a custom ROM or Flash Factory ROM back.
So how do ROM Manager and Clockwork recovery come into play?
Are there any tutorials - not that just give step by step (like above) but explain what is happening in each step or why?
alphadog00 said:
For us Noobs, can we get more information on where and when to use this?
In reading everything I get some of it, but not all. This is my first hackable android phone, so I am still learning the lingo.
With other phones, I would just Flash a custom ROM or Flash Factory ROM back.
So how do ROM Manager and Clockwork recovery come into play?
Are there any tutorials - not that just give step by step (like above) but explain what is happening in each step or why?
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The long and short of it is that you can now flash ROMs and make backups, and restore, without your computer.
The recovery is the tool that lets you do the backups and installations. ROM Manager is a convenient Android front end to the recovery.
After these steps you won't really have to "hack" your phone lol. Root your phone and download Rom Manager from the Android market...then have it flash a recovery (the first selection at the top) choose your device when prompted. Now after that finishes select "reboot into recovery" and as the above post states you may need to select "reinstall packages" (I did). Once that goes through, you'll see your new custom recovery menu. DO A NANDROID BACKUP of your current Rom as soon as you can....then (as long as your current rom isn't messed up, if its stock your fine) from there on out you can play as much as you want with very little risk of bricking your phone. There are others who can explain it better but your stuck with me till they chime in lol. Its a very easy process and nearly foolproof.
Koush said:
That's it! This is completely painless and safe! There is no need for Odin anymore to replace the recovery or flash updates!
If you appreciate my work, please buy the Premium version of ROM Manager!
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Awesome work! Premium version has been purchased by me. Thank you for the efforts.
Didn't work at first for me.
I installed Rom Manager (premium)
Installed CW recovery
Accepted SU
Tried to backup from within Rom Manager
I got a "Can't find update.zip" message.
When I rebooted and opened Rom Manager again, I got the "Error Occured" message, but it locked up on me and became unresponsive.
I uninstalled Rom Manager, rebooted, then reinstalled. I flashed CW recovery again, rebooted normally, opened rom manager again, and flashed CW recovery again.
After that I was able to use rom manager to reboot into recovery and backup.
Not sure if mine was just a fluke or what, but I figured I would share.
MSigler said:
Didn't work at first for me.
I installed Rom Manager (premium)
Installed CW recovery
Accepted SU
Tried to backup from within Rom Manager
I got a "Can't find update.zip" message.
When I rebooted and opened Rom Manager again, I got the "Error Occured" message, but it locked up on me and became unresponsive.
I uninstalled Rom Manager, rebooted, then reinstalled. I flashed CW recovery again, rebooted normally, opened rom manager again, and flashed CW recovery again.
After that I was able to use rom manager to reboot into recovery and backup.
Not sure if mine was just a fluke or what, but I figured I would share.
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Titanium Backup did that to me also the first time I ran it....I've had quite a few freezes and slowdowns when opening a program for the first time and waiting for SU to kick in.
It should also be noted that when you chose to partition the sdcard via the recovery menu, it partitions the internal sdcard and not the external.
Maybe that can be made an option? I would like to do my nandroid backup to my external card so I have it for safe keeping.
Everything else working as expected, I enabled advanced options and downloaded the superuser package (from Extras) just to test things. Havent experienced any problems other than the sdcard wipe (which wasnt totally unexpected).
If something should happen to your phone (brick, unrecoverable error, etc), how can we reboot into this custom recovery to reflash the nandroid backup? Can we get into it via adb (adb reboot recovery)?
Yeah, having an external SD Nandroid would be a great option. Not just for safekeeping, but for easy transfer in case of hardware loss or replacement.
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It should also be noted that when you chose to partition the sdcard via the recovery menu, it partitions the internal sdcard and not the external.
Maybe that can be made an option? I would like to do my nandroid backup to my external card so I have it for safe keeping.
Everything else working as expected, I enabled advanced options and downloaded the superuser package (from Extras) just to test things. Havent experienced any problems other than the sdcard wipe (which wasnt totally unexpected).
If something should happen to your phone (brick, unrecoverable error, etc), how can we reboot into this custom recovery to reflash the nandroid backup? Can we get into it via adb (adb reboot recovery)?
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I just did a reboot into recovery mode (the normal way, not with rom manager) and I had to click "reinstall packages" to get into the ClockworkMod recovery menu. So I'm not sure but I'm guessing (hoping) that its still available if we run into problems later.
Yep. It's pretty much how the Droid and N1 people are used to doing it anyway.
Clockwork is hella handy to manage and switch between working ROMs on the fly, as well as triggering recovery mode without keypress acrobatics, but having update.zip on the SD card to fall back on using the normal restore and the stock kernel is great in case of semi-bricking, and as this last week has shown us, the Galaxy phones are a bit prone to this.
THANK YOU!!! Been waiting for this since I got the phone, you are the man, I'll be adding to your Paypal account shortly!
Works like a charm. Thanks Koush!
Thank you. I am new to the scene, but looks like I chose the right hardware for hacking. The swift and easy way in which I have been able to advance my freedom on this gorgeous hardware makes me forget for a while that I am on AT&T, home of the fruit carrying zombie army.
Sweet! Can't wait to try this on my phone later tonight. Will deff be buying ROM Manager Pro
Thanks for this...I just bought the premium version...Since this is my first Android phone I have a question. I previously rooted my phone and uninstalled alll the AT&T bloatware, My question is about the backup I just made using this. If I restore the backup will it restore a rooted backup with out all the AT&T bloatware? Also when I ran the backup I go 2 messages at the end
No /sdcard/.andriod_secure found. Skipping backup of applications on external storage.. Is this normal?
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext. Is this normal?
Also I now have 2 ROM Manager icon in my application screens. 1 will open the program and the other tells me that the aplication is not installed on my phone. I tried to delete that icon but it won't go away, Any ideas? FIXED..I rebooted my phone and the extra icon went away...
Thanks for all help and these great apps...
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Thanks for this...I just bought the premium version...Since this is my first Android phone I have a question. I previously rooted my phone and uninstalled alll the AT&T bloatware, My question is about the backup I just made using this. If I restore the backup will it restore a rooted backup with out all the AT&T bloatware? Also when I ran the backup I go 2 messages at the end
No /sdcard/.andriod_secure found. Skipping backup of applications on external storage.. Is this normal?
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext. Is this normal?
Thanks for all help and these great apps...
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i got the same message, im assuming that you dont have an external sd card thats why it generated the message...
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i got the same message, im assuming that you dont have an external sd card thats why it generated the message...
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I do have one in my phone but there is nothing installed on it yet..maybe that's why..
Which Custom Recovery are you using? and why?
can't delete old backups
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Which Custom Recovery are you using? and why?
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I just realized that CWM has a problem on Nexus 7. Can't delete old backups!! You can't delete files in the CWM backup folder thru file explorer, terminal with SU or ADB. For that, and so many other performance reasons, I dropped CWM faster than drunk girl in stilettos. TWRP is what I use on my Galaxy S2 and I just love it. You can queue up several zips for install in order, like: 1) TDJ cache wipe, 2) install ROM, 3) install Gapps, 4) TDJ cache wipe again. then, come back 2 minutes later, and you're ready to reboot. ALso, TWRP has a file manager in recovery, so you can actually delete those annoying backup folders that CWM won't even let you delete. TWRP FTW.
I also notice that TWRP has the nice backup options for "System/Boot/Data" backup only. So I can clean backup my rom without all those apps(which is HUGE)
guess I'll need to put back TWRP in my Nexus 7 again.
TWRP. I tried the latest CWM but even the touch version is not that good for me. Also the De duplication backup of CWM is just not quite right in my opinion. In my experience, leaving thousand files in the sd card is causing performance problems compared to just few large files.
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If I flash Clockworkmod Recovery in Rom Manager and then Reboot into Recovery from Rom Manager, I go right to cwm recovery. I have tested making and deleting nandroid backups there and it works just fine. My backups consist of a folder containing 5 files including an md5 checksum so I don't know what people are talking about with 'thousands of files'. I think the people criticizing CWM don't know how to use it. I just make sure I flash Clockworkmod Recovery in Rom Manager before I Reboot into Recovery. Works every time. I don't use the Touch version, just plain old Rom Manager v5.0.2.1 and CWM 6.0.1.0.
I had installed CWM first, but now I changed to TWRP and I like it much more. With an USB-stick connected you have the possibility to backup / restore ROMs from there directly, which makes much more sense than backing up to internal memory. Also the other options provided for install / backup / restore are well done. Really nice work!
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I switch between TWRP and CWM.
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TWRP
Big icon easy to use.
CWM, in all honesty, I unlocked and rooted and have never gone back into recovery. Because this is the first device I've ever owned where I didn't feel the need to flash a ROM yet! ( key word,YET) I use my Galaxy S 2 for my flashing addiction.
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I just found this app which makes a nandroid backup without going into recovery. Has any one used it? Needs Root and Busybox. If this works then we could back up our stock and make some changes until we get the bootlocker unlocked and get a recovery installed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5oM3IzdDFjLm9ubmFuZGJ1cCJd
Edit. Sorry, will not work without a workable custom recovery installed.
Hi guys,
I had a very strange problem, my Titanium Backup on android KitKat backed up all apps, but I could not restore them on Lollipop. When I verified the backups, TB said they were corrupted (using AOSP Lollipop). Switching back to KK and verifying the apps again confirmed my backups were okay. The only thing working on LP in TB was restoring app's data (only). So, how do you install apps from your backup created with KitKat on Lollipop?
Install android KitKat ROM
If you are already on KK, skip this step.
If you are on LP, take a nandroid backup, wipe your phone, and install any KK ROM. Install Titanium Backup on that ROM.
Make an "update.zip" package
Open TB, open batch menu and verify your backups (while the backups were "corrupted" on LP, they worked for me on KK).
Open batch menu, and find "Recovery mode" in the list. There's just one option (Create "update.zip" from app+data backups). Pick the backups you want to restore on LP and run it.
It will create a recovery script, with all the apps (including their data). You're done on KitKat, back to LP!
Install/restore Android Lollipop
Wipe your phone again, install or restore any LP ROM you want to use.
Boot your phone to LP, set your Google account and other things you want to.
Install Titanium Backup on your phone. Do NOT restore anything yet.
Reboot to recovery & install your apps from the file you created with Titanium Backup (usually "update.zip" in the sdcard folder)
Reboot (system), your phone will update android and setup all your application's. Do not open those apps yet.
Restoring application's data with TB
If the TB did not begin the data restoring process yet (you would see that as a notification), reboot your phone again (system).
Your phone should start restoring data to the application's you installed via recovery earlier. Let it finish.
That's it, you're done! Your backups from KitKat, that could not be installed on Lollipop via Titanium Backup are now installed and working!
WARNING: Even if you have to wait/reboot more times, do it! If you setup your apps manually, and TB won't restore any data, there's a huge chance it will start restoring them on the next reboot and it will replace the data you already setup!
Cool!
Just one point I confuse, step 4, "Reboot to recovery & install your apps"
What apps? and how do you install it/them from recovery?
Honestly, I've never done it that way b4. I install all .apk files when the system is up and running.
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Cool!
Just one point I confuse, step 4, "Reboot to recovery & install your apps"
What apps? and how do you install it/them from recovery?
Honestly, I've never done it that way b4. I install all .apk files when the system is up and running.
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in the point 2. he said that you have to create an "update.zip" package that contains all of your apps & backup data...
then in step 4. you flash that update.zip through recovery
votinh said:
Cool!
Just one point I confuse, step 4, "Reboot to recovery & install your apps"
What apps? and how do you install it/them from recovery?
Honestly, I've never done it that way b4. I install all .apk files when the system is up and running.
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60nine said:
in the point 2. he said that you have to create an "update.zip" package that contains all of your apps & backup data...
then in step 4. you flash that update.zip through recovery
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Exactly like he said, I'll edit it a bit to make things more clear.
4. Reboot to recovery & install your apps from the file you created with Titanium Backup
Get back to recovery and install the *.zip file you created earlier with TB in recovery.
Why do you need to say or add this step: "Reboot to recovery & install your apps from the file you created with Titanium Backup"
Why can't you just say
4. Reboot to recovery & install the *.zip file you created earlier with TB in recovery.
Why need to install apps in one step then get back to recovery and install the .zip file?
That's the confused part.
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4. Reboot to recovery & install your apps from the file you created with Titanium Backup
Get back to recovery and install the *.zip file you created earlier with TB in recovery.
Why do you need to say or add this step: "Reboot to recovery & install your apps from the file you created with Titanium Backup"
Why can't you just say
4. Reboot to recovery & install the *.zip file you created earlier with TB in recovery.
Why need to install apps in one step then get back to recovery and install the .zip file?
That's the confused part.
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You have to restore them just one time, of course. I'm sorry i messed up with the description. Sorry to confuse you.
I fixed it now.
That's much better, my man.
G'day, m8
Thanks.
so i have to go back to KK and make an update.zip file thru TB, and then back to LP and install zip file via recovery...? do i understand this rite? is there no way stayin on LP and restore apps somehow? my verification says 0 errors, but still when i try to restore it gets stuck at 0% of restoring...
Yes, you do understand it right. There may be a way, but the only one working for me was this one.
Thank you
Big thanks for this!
You are welcome! Glad I helped!
How do you downgrade from Lollipop to KK?
Well that depends. If you are running LG's stock LP, then I am not sure. You better ask somewhere else. However, if you are running custom LP ROM, and you have custom recovery and rooted, then all you have to do is pick one custom KK ROM, flash it, and you are done. Use Pardus ROM, or CloudyG2, or CyanogenMod, whatever you like. It does not matter.
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Well that depends. If you are running LG's stock LP, then I am not sure. You better ask somewhere else. However, if you are running custom LP ROM, and you have custom recovery and rooted, then all you have to do is pick one custom KK ROM, flash it, and you are done. Use Pardus ROM, or CloudyG2, or CyanogenMod, whatever you like. It does not matter.
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So, its working for cusrom LP only? Not for stock LP ?
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So, its working for cusrom LP only? Not for stock LP ?
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No. It works for stock LP as well. I was trying to say that I am not sure how to downgrade.
danek731 said:
No. It works for stock LP as well. I was trying to say that I am not sure how to downgrade.
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Okay. Now, i see. Thanks
Hi,
thanks for that great instruction. It worked very good on my Nexus 4 from Kitkat to Lollipop.
But one little failure.
Several app notifications (for example Quizduell, Tapatalk) don't come up after the update. Is there any chance to get them back, or do I have to reinstall that apps?
Try to open the apps. When you open the app, the notifications should start working properly. If they don't, just reinstall the app.
Will this work vice versa also?
Will this method work if you switch from lollipop to kitkat as well?
Hy,
I have two i9505, I read a lot and installed CWM using Heimdall, I flashed SuperSU to gain root, and made a backup. It labeled the backup with an outdated 1970 name...
I took the SD card out to copy the SD backup, but could find it even when searching for hidden folder.
I put back the SD card in my device, and booted to CWM, the backup was available for a restore process. So before trying any flash I tried out a restore process, but ended up with a stuck in boot. Boot to CWM and bootloader being still available, I managed to flash a workable ROM, but I can't restore to my initial ROM.
Now, I'd like to be able to restore my device to it's initial ROM.
I believe that somehow, the backup I made is corrupted.
As I have another identical i9505 I haven't tempered with yet, I guess I could install CWM (or other custom recovery) to make a backup of the ROM, extract the backup of the ROM from the SD and use it to 'clone' my second device ROM to this one.
But I don't wan't to make any mistake here, so I'd apreciate some help, first to understand where CWM put the backup .tar.
Another solution is to get some stock ROM I can flash. As anyway I don't have any warranty on the device I don't care to restore to exact initial state, I just want to be able to get back to some stock ROM.
sammobile.com/firmwares is the place to go if you want a stock ROM. Download whichever ROM you want, then use Heimdall to flash it, and you should then be returned to stock. For best results, the ROM you download should have no carrier branding, but any of them should work.
I though I would have to do something like that from reading the unroot guide. Also, as I use Heimdall to flash (I have a linuxBox), I will use this guide in french as a guideline.
I noticed that the command line they recommend don't flash sbl1. I don't know if it is required.
Thank you anyway for confirming that.