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I was out on a bike ride and was just riding along and wham I got rear ended by a pickup truck going 30-40 mph. I never saw it coming. I had my Hero in my left rear pocket which should have been the initial impact point of the vehicle.
I lay on the road trying to breathe without pain and the first person on the scene was an off-duty fire battalion chief and he took care of me and called 911.
I was taken to the local trauma hospital where eventually my Hero was returned to me totally unscathed with MyTracks still running.
Inches from where the Hero was in my pocket I have a large hematoma and a fractured vertebrae (T10) and a ton of gross bruising. Everything else in my pockets was gone, every piece of clothing I had on was either ruined in the crash or cut off but my old old Hero lives on.
I'm proud of the thing, but I've sure been wanting a new phone and it seems I can't get rid of this thing even thorough extreme methods.
I've got 2 fractured vertebrae and a bunch of road rash, but no spinal nerve damage or anything else permanent (that we've discovered yet). I consider myself very lucky to be able to walk away from it.
Id say your Blessed. Glad your ok man.
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Sheesh, the things people will do to get out of the contract so they can upgrade. Just kidding. Glad you made it safely.
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I think your hero saved your ass....lol....
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Hero FTW. Holy crap that sucks. I went through an almost IDENTICAL event years ago. 2 surgeries later and I'm right as rain. I would suggest not biking for a while, the flashbacks can be crippling. Glad to hear your ok. Wow.
and thats why they call it a hero pun intended lol.
seriously though get well soon man im glad your okay sort off.. lol
Hope you have a quick recovery
What rom are you running? My phone would've restarted from having MyTracks + GPS open that long
Glad you're a tough sob, hope you recover quickly
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What rom are you running? My phone would've restarted from having MyTracks + GPS open that long
Glad you're a tough sob, hope you recover quickly
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CM7 nightly and I didn't get to flash a nightly for over a week.
MyTracks was running for 3:34:15 and split the track into 9 segments due to poor coverage in areas. I have it set to never split or never resume so it didn't reboot.
Damn glad you're alive!!!
Thanks everyone, I'm glad I'm alive too, but I probably wouldn't be very upset if I were dead.
I wish I had a new phone coming to me though.
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Thanks everyone, I'm glad I'm alive too, but I probably wouldn't be very upset if I were dead.
I wish I had a new phone coming to me though.
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This thread needs to be front page
®patience is a virtue©
i've always told everyone that i ever talked into getting a hero that it was one of the toughest phones ever.. and this proves it..
Dude glad you made it out ok.. you are truly blessed..
i'll save my joke for later..
Glad you're ok!!!
As some of you may have noticed, I have been very inactive in the Android world over the past month or so. I wanted to take the opportunity to let everyone know what is going on.
My wife is 8 months pregnant, and starting about a month ago she has been having some issues. Nothing too serious, but it means we have to go to the doctor several times a week to make sure she and the baby are not getting worse. She is also not supposed to leave the house if possible. As much as I enjoy the playing around I do with Blackhole, my family has to come first.
The Baby could be born any time now, and I simply don't have the time to devote to Android like I used to. I will admit that what little free time I have left now goes to extra sleep (cause I know I won't be getting any for a while after the baby is born). Lets face it, I'm no Adrynalyn or Jcase. For me Android has always been a hobby, and I do what I do mostly for myself, but just decided to share it.
I do plan on getting back into things once my life has settled down a bit, and if something major happens (Official GB upgrade anyone?) I'll try to make the time to release an update, but don't expect anything from me for a while.
I want to say thank you to everyone who has supported me with kind words, donations, suggestions, testing, bug reports, etc. over the past 9 months or so since I started developing on the Fascinate, and I want you all to know how much I appreciate you.
TTFN
I hope all goes well with you and your family. And yes, Family always comes first.
Thanks for all you do for the community, you will be in our thoughts and prayers.
Congrats. And do take care.
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We, in turn, appreciate all you've done for the Fascinate community, and eagerly look forward to a successful birth for the baby! If you wish to share pics of the little tendertot, I'm sure we'd all be excited to see them! If you do not wish to share them due to privacy concerns, we'll understand that, too. Have you decided on a name, and did you find out in advance if the baby will be a boy or girl? Again, if you wish to keep these details private, we'll respect that
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
Let this serve as an axample to all our devs. WE LOVE YOU ALL BUT FAMILY COMES FIRST!!
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best wishes to you and the (expanding) family
Indeed. Family always comes first, rest assured that we will all be here when you get back.
Congratulations on the new baby!
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Congratulations, man. Hope everything goes well. Don't worry about us, compared to the family, we're nothing. No offense to anyone here, but I think we all know where ones priorities should lie.
We'll keep you and yours in our thoughts. We're pulling for ya.
Thanks so much again for all the kind words guys, I'll be glad to post up some pictures when we get them. Her name is Lilly, and we're so excited =) I'm going to be wrapped around her little finger if you believe my wife, which I do.
Just glad to hear all is well as of now. Pregnancy can be daunting by itself, throw in complications just makes it that much more stressful for you and your wife. Congratulations on the addition though and great name choice, my niece is named Lilly.
Is it a boy or a girl??
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Is it a boy or a girl??
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Read a couple of posts up
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
Rolling the clock back a little, your work was defiantly among the top. The first rom I ever flashed on this phone was yours. As nothing stood still your work has fallen down the list but then again so has super clean. Should you ever find the time again in 18 to 20 years your return will be must welcomed.
Thank you for your works, I and many others enjoyed them greatly in their day. All the best with the coming parenting. Be sure to pass your skills on to your little ones so as to increase your efficiency in making a timely comeback
Thanks again
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My wife is 8 months pregnant, and starting about a month ago she has been having some issues. Nothing too serious, but it means we have to go to the doctor several times a week to make sure she and the baby are not getting worse. She is also not supposed to leave the house if possible. As much as I enjoy the playing around I do with Blackhole, my family has to come first.
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Hope everything goes well for you. The last month or so my GF was going in at least 3 times a week for tests.
Not sure if this is your first (I have two), but I am always amazed at how durable children are. They have an amazing ability to bounce back from just about anything! Best of luck, and enjoy your new family member.
Best of luck with the expanding family, and I will add my prayers to the rest.
This is my first kid, but I had 2 little brothers and 2 little sisters, so I'm well aware that kids are a hardy breed (much more than I am these days). Lillian is her full name, and it was my wife's Grandmother and Great Grandmother's name, and I just thought it was pretty (also has some tie-ins to Superman and Veronica Mars, but don't tell my wife).
Congrats! Having a kid is a life changing experience ...it changed mine and I love my kid to death ...family always first and hope all goes well
I'm a new user for the Fascinate
but appreciate all work and help given to us users ...
Once again congrats
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Congrats, and a big thanks for everything you've done already! Best of luck to you and the family, good sir...
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Congrats and hope all goes well. I will include you in my prayers. Thank you for all you have done for android and these phones. Take care and please let us know when she delivers the new bundle of joy!!!!!!
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OK so a few months back, I got into the this blind rage (not gonna go into the details) and the only thing in my hand was my poor galaxy s2. So I threw it very very hard on the floor and the back cover, the battery, and even the sd card came off. Soon afterwards I picked it up and put everything back in place and to my reliefs, the phone worked perfectly. The battery was even,... How do I say this? Misshapen? I had to reshapen? So it could fit in its place. Anyway, everything worked perfectly except the loud speaker was broken. I could use the phone without playing music through loud speaker and never put it in loud speaker mode during conversations. After a few months of this, suddenly the speakers was understandable again. Might not be as good as when I got it brand new but it works now.
Thanks everyone for reading my stupid post up to this point. If you have, you are patient people.
P. S this really happened I am not Kidding.
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wow...like ur phone is semi-bionic machine that can recover from damage in time, just kidding
is it same like my case here, but not my SGS2 but my old Nokia, dropped into water, cant turn on, I kept leave it under sun so the circuit will dry, still not working, so, I leave it in my drawer, for almost 4 month, then I tried to turn on, and voila.........here he comes to live again, for me it happen by coincidence
anyway good for u to have ur phone working as usual again
T1000!!!!!!!!!!
New rule one for noobs then .
Dont read throw your phone on the floor as hard as possible but backup your EFS first .
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Dude kudos to you. "semi bionic machine" I was looking for this word. Now that's an idea for Sammy next next meet model. A self repairing phone just thinking of the possible.
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Nissan already has a self-healing coating that they apply to their automobiles. Maybe Samsung can license the tech from them.
Smartphones have already taken over our lives, next the world!
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PLz next time throw it on your head it will contribute to this forum
Right now its just a Samsung Galaxy s2, but in the future it will be known as Skynet
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Right now its just a Samsung Galaxy s2, but in the future it will be known as Skynet
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Yeah!And XDA will become Umbrella corp.,shooting mutant Galaxy phones everywhere,until they transform everyone to smartphone-loving geeks!And then Neo will come to save us...
Wait,that's three different movies...
Quite sure it will not be XDA, but Apple Inc become the Umbrella corp.
Please.... APPLE WILL die in the next 2 - 3 years. It's not like those fanboys will buy every crappy overpriced products with apple logo sticked to its back forever. Or I could be wrong because those idiots have been doing so for the last 3 or 4 years. Then again now that the curse caster have vanished maybe just maybe....
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Don't bet on it as people are generally followers and not leaders. This also explains why they opt for a closed ecosystem,cumbersome procedures to just transfer files via itunes(loonytunes) etc. Steve is their big brother.
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Princeomi said:
Don't bet on it as people are generally followers and not leaders. This also explains why they opt for a closed ecosystem,cumbersome procedures to just transfer files via itunes(loonytunes) etc. Steve is their big brother.
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Sadly yes..
I use to tell my friends, as a joke, Android is for the people who want the open source systems, Apple for people who know jack about that..
Apple =overpriced items with not exceptional value imo
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Yeah!And XDA will become Umbrella corp.,shooting mutant Galaxy phones everywhere,until they transform everyone to smartphone-loving geeks!And then Neo will come to save us...
Wait,that's three different movies...
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Almost fell down from chair reading this
Guess what ? Looks like Apple/the iPhone is getting first dibs on this.
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Nissan already has a self-healing coating that they apply to their automobiles. Maybe Samsung can license the tech from them.
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“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”
Yep true story.
Ah, no biggie.
It's the nanobots. When selfdiagnostic finds any HW faults it releases these tiny nanobots that then repair broken circuits.
I can sadly confirm that these regenerational properties are null and void if your SGS2 happens to be run over by the number 19 tram in Oslo - I suspect the tram number and city are irrelevant.
I'd have taken a picture, but looking at the mangled mess exacerbated my toothache, so I binned it.
Glad I've got an extra. I shall test this one under the #11 tram.
Samsung will be in contact with you shortly to recover their lost super-secret prototype Galaxy S2000 (aka enslave-humans-phone)...
So Samsung Seems to built a SKYNET
I thought it would be fun to share some stories about phone fails! whether that be development that went wrong or accidents or embarrassing stories involving your phone. I'll start...
I used to be in the Army and one day while on exercise in Scotland, I was running and tripped. I slid for about 10 metres on my front with everyone laughing at me. I didnt realise until i got back to my room that my phone had been in my chest pocket and was now smashed to smithereens .. That weekend i went to buy a new phone, i needed one because i was going on exercise again for 3 days. I decided on the old Sony with the sliding shutter on the back (i forget the model number). it was a great little phone. I spent the whole night in my trench watching videos on my new phone, so happy. The next day we were going back to camp so we packed our stuff, filled in our trenches again and headed off. It was only when I was unpacking my kit back at camp that I realised my phone had fallen out of my pocket in my trench, I had buried it under six feet of dirt and the next day i was shopping for a phone (for the second time in a week!) epic fail
i think it would be great if others could share their experiences here! i'd love to know im not the only idiot in the G3 forum!
Oh no.
I remember the times when I was extremelly adicted to xda (not that i am not). I used to download each and every rom and would flash it just too see something new.
I remember the time when i flashed some stock rom. I left the computer while the odin fladh thing was completeing. When i came back, i saw my little brother had disconnected the usb eventhough the flash process wasnt complete.
I was SO scared cause it had a bootloader and if you interrupt the flash you brick your phone. It hadn't been a month since i had the phone and i imagined what would be my father's reaction
Moreover it would be hard to explain him what had really happened as he doesnt know anything of this.
I secretly went to samsung centre and those idiots said my mother board had a problem. I hardly beileved this so i came back to xda.
Finally i found an unbricking program which worked flawlessly.
But yeah, lesson learnt. Now i always stay near the phone until i see the "pass"screen.
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I think the name of the sony phone is K850i
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That sounds familiar! You are probably right
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Had the trustworthy Nokia 6233 before this awesome G3!
Anyways once had gone for a picnic to a nearby beach. We hadn't planned on getting into the water; just have a good lunch, play a little and head back home. But well the obvious happened and we did get into the water. I handed my 6233 to a friend of mine who was just sitting on a rock nearby (not in the water though) Had a lot of fun, with absolutely no concern for the world! That's when my sister pointed out that the friend who I'd given my mobile to, was also in the water!!
Oh, shattered, completely. Took the phone, opened it up, removed the battery and kept it for drying for 2 days. Alas it didn't boot ever again
But as they say everything happens for a reason. Went out and got G3 and like they say the rest is history
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But as they say everything happens for a reason. Went out and got G3 and like they say the rest is history
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Well we are glad to have you in the community so buy your friend a beer!
Saw a few threads about broken devices so I figured I'd try to get everyone to post in one thread to help me decide if this phone can survive me lol. This is for keeping track of what seems to break the most. Please try to keep questions out and use the format below.
Samsung Galaxy S III
Version: (USA or international)
Color:
Case: ( type of case, or " no case")
Cause of damage: (drop from x height etc)
Damage location: (frnt/bck/side/screen)
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Or people could take better care of their phones rather than deliberately putting them to the test to see if Gorilla Glass is all that good or dropping them from a height!, its a phone not a bullet-proof vest! Pointless thread! All these people seem to be having problems with their phones but mine has been absolutely tip top! I cannot fault it! But people nit pick about the stupid things!
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Or people could take better care of their phones rather than deliberately putting them to the test to see if Gorilla Glass is all that good or dropping them from a height!, its a phone not a bullet-proof vest! Pointless thread! All these people seem to be having problems with their phones but mine has been absolutely tip top! I cannot fault it! But people nit pick about the stupid things!
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I know how to take care of a phone, so do most. Accidents happen. I, as well as many others I'm sure, have placed a phone in what we thought was a safe spot, and still had it fall, or someone else accidentally knocks it down. I have a 3 year old. I'd love to see you hand a phone to a small child and have them not drop it. Or have it slide out of a pocket. Thanks for playing.
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Or people could take better care of their phones rather than deliberately putting them to the test to see if Gorilla Glass is all that good or dropping them from a height!, its a phone not a bullet-proof vest! Pointless thread! All these people seem to be having problems with their phones but mine has been absolutely tip top! I cannot fault it! But people nit pick about the stupid things!
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People aren't nit picking, some people have legitimate claims. It's a phone and believe it or not, accidents do happen.
This is where we've reached, fan boys actually blaming the consumer now for accidentally dropping their phone's, instead of blaming the real culprit.
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I'd love to see you hand a phone to a small child and have them not drop it.
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Who's the genius that would hand a 700$ phone to a 3 year old in the first place?
That would be no accident, it would mean the parent is missing more than a couple of braincells.
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Who's the genius that would hand a 700$ phone to a 3 year old in the first place?
That would be no accident, that would mean the parent is missing a couple of braincells.
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our little girl plays learning games on both mine and the lady's phone, along with grandma's tablet. All three of the devices have more than stood up to the task. She's only dropped the tablet once, neither phone yet. Also, not everything is out of reach to the little one. Sometimes I'll set it on the wide arm of the couch to charge while I sit there. If I get up, I'm not going to Unplug it just to get a drink in the next room. At $300+ and listed as a " solid, sturdy, durable etc" product, you expect it to withstand a drop or two. My Droid X has been knocked off counters and such by friends( where it SHOULD be safe), dropped by myself, I've gotten hung up in the charger cord once despite my best effort to keep it out of the way, pulling my phone with it. Hit bumps in a vehicle dumping it from the car holder, as it clicked into place, but didn't actually secure. I've had coolant and other automotive fluids spilled on me, or splash onto my phone etc. I was using the LED light to find small puddles in the basement once, dropped it into the water after tripping over something I didn't see, its worked its way out of my deep side pocket while I ran once, fell onto my foot and got kicked across the ground. I don't keep it there anymore but the pocket was 3" deeper than the phone, should have been secure. Point is, you can't predict everything around you, or control it. Accidents happen regardless unless you move like a turtle, even then it may still happen. So can we lose the stupid and stay on topic please?
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our little girl plays learning games on both mine and the lady's phone, along with grandma's tablet. All three of the devices have more than stood up to the task. She's only dropped the tablet once, neither phone yet. Also, not everything is out of reach to the little one. Sometimes I'll set it on the wide arm of the couch to charge while I sit there. If I get up, I'm not going to Unplug it just to get a drink in the next room. At $300+ and listed as a " solid, sturdy, durable etc" product, you expect it to withstand a drop or two. My Droid X has been knocked off counters and such by friends( where it SHOULD be safe), dropped by myself, I've gotten hung up in the charger cord once despite my best effort to keep it out of the way, pulling my phone with it. Hit bumps in a vehicle dumping it from the car holder, as it clicked into place, but didn't actually secure. I've had coolant and other automotive fluids spilled on me, or splash onto my phone etc. I was using the LED light to find small puddles in the basement once, dropped it into the water after tripping over something I didn't see, its worked its way out of my deep side pocket while I ran once, fell onto my foot and got kicked across the ground. I don't keep it there anymore but the pocket was 3" deeper than the phone, should have been secure. Point is, you can't predict everything around you, or control it. Accidents happen regardless unless you move like a turtle, even then it may still happen. So can we lose the stupid and stay on topic please?
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Still, it is a 3 year old. Why don't you just get her a cheap tablet of her own to remove your expensive phones out of the equation?
Also, even though the rest was painfully hard to read, (wall of text) I still did and I agree that devices should be build more sturdily when they cost 300+$.
Accidents happen in life, but we can do things to avoid them and minimize the damage.
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Still, it is a 3 year old. Why don't you just get her a cheap tablet of her own to remove your expensive phones out of the equation?
Also, even though the rest was painfully hard to read, (wall of text) I still did and I agree that devices should be build more sturdily when they cost 300+$.
Accidents happen in life, but we can do things to avoid them and minimize the damage.
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yes,I tend to rant. Other then that, we don't have the money to spend right now. I'm only upgrading because after flashing back to bone stock with no root, my Droid X is still not getting all its calls, which presents an issue when your trying to get a job lol.
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Who's the genius that would hand a 700$ phone to a 3 year old in the first place?
That would be no accident, it would mean the parent is missing more than a couple of braincells.
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I take it that you're 12........
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$2.50 for insurance here each month. That is the solution with backups and next day delivery on a replacement, priceless.
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Could a mod please clean up the useless dribble?
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Could a mod please clean up the useless dribble?
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+1.....close the pointless thread! £4 a month for phone insurance! You pay $6-700 for the galaxy s3 which is a highly sought after phone and people are giving it to toddlers, and just breaking it out of their own stupidity! I can't recall a time when I've ever dropped my phone, take better care of your phone or wipe the butter from your fingers!
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Bunch of ****ing idiots. Are we all 12? Can't read? Can't stay on topic to save your lives? If you have nothing constructive to add to my thread, please keep your mouth shut. Thanks.
THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT INSURANCE OR WHAT TO DO IF YOU BREAK THE DEVICE. I SIMPLY WANTED TO KEEP TRACK OF THE BROKEN DEVICES. Since no one on this forum can seem to read, or comprehend a simple request I think I'll just move back to my other forums. Too many incompetent Retards here.
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Bunch of ****ing idiots. Are we all 12? Can't read? Can't stay on topic to save your lives? If you have nothing constructive to add to my thread, please keep your mouth shut. Thanks.
THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT INSURANCE OR WHAT TO DO IF YOU BREAK THE DEVICE. I SIMPLY WANTED TO KEEP TRACK OF THE BROKEN DEVICES. Since no one on this forum can seem to read, or comprehend a simple request I think I'll just move back to my other forums. Too many incompetent Retards here.
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Well why would someone want to post about their misfortune?? It all boils down to....take better care of your phone then I wouldn't get broken would it? What has other peoples broken devices got to do with you?? Unless you broke them!
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Well why would someone want to post about their misfortune?? It all boils down to....take better care of your phone then I wouldn't get broken would it?
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no it doesn't, it boils down to accidents happen. I was working on gathering insurance information from different companies to post along with parts links etc. There are already several threads about broken devices. Once again proving your a bunch of ****ing idiots. This will be the last thread I post here. Pretty pathetic considering its my first, and not one God damn person could post on topic.
Best part is, you guys keep bumping the thread to the top just to say its pointless. That makes perfect sense.
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no it doesn't, it boils down to accidents happen. I was working on gathering insurance information from different companies to post along with parts links etc. There are already several threads about broken devices. Once again proving your a bunch of ****ing idiots. This will be the last thread I post here. Pretty pathetic considering its my first, and not one God damn person could post on topic.
Best part is, you guys keep bumping the thread to the top just to say its pointless. That makes perfect sense.
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Well stop making pointless threads then! With people giving advice on how not to break your device.....simple, take better care of it and stop being stupid! What does other peoples broken devices have to do with you? Unless your saying that you personally broke them? This thread is pointless and a constant reminder to those whose devices have broken, a constant reminder of their misfortune! Of their bad luck if you wish!
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I'm sorry i thought this place was about helping one another. So I thought I'd try to help others and myself in one shot. Clearly this forum is just about trolling off topic and name calling with no real goal. Its all I've seen in every single thread. You guys must be proud. :thumbup:
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I'm sorry i thought this place was about helping one another. So I thought I'd try to help others and myself in one shot. Clearly this forum is just about trolling off topic and name calling with no real goal. Its all I've seen in every single thread. You guys must be proud. :thumbup:
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Who are you helping?? How can you possibly help/teach anyone not to drop their phone?? The price of insurance to the price of a screwed up phone is pittance!
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I was compiling part numbers/ links and popular insurance company coverages, policy's etc to update my first thread with, however the off topic trolling doesn't stop, so **** it.
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Who are you helping?? How can you possibly help/teach anyone not to drop their phone?? The price of insurance to the price of a screwed up phone is pittance!
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Give the guy a break. If you read the original thread I don't see it as that bad of an idea.