Hi! A friend left me his Defy so I could so I can put it on steroids as it's working really slow. It's still on Android 2.1 (Vodafone Spain) and never touched. I've read all the necessary stuff for beginners and understood everything (I'm not new to rooting and flashing, I've a fully hacked Desi), but I want to know a few things.
First of all, should I stay on 2.1 as base or is it better to upgrade to Froyo, in which case what is the preferred SBF?
As this is for a friend and I'm not gonna have access to his phone everyday I need a really stable rom. Are the latest CM roms stable enough?
And at last, I've read that some of this roms come with the kernel, what does that mean?
Thanks in advance for all the info.
1) You can upgrade to Froyo, or stay as it is(will not really affect performance) although people report Froyo to be a bit smoother
2)CM7 is very stable and fast( you may use maniacs or other builds)
3)I think you are referring to the 2ndboot ROMs which include a custom kernel. Though I personally use them, they may not be stable/fast enough for everyone
I would suggest trying cm7,9,10 and check how it works out for you
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thekguy said:
3)I think you are referring to the 2ndboot ROMs which include a custom kernel. Though I personally use them, they may not be stable/fast enough for everyone
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Yes, isn't that 2ndboot thing necessary to be able to boot any custom rom? So now if I would like to install a custom rom I should (update to Froyo,) root, install 2nd init and then flash the rom and recover the nandroid for that build?
_SpAiK_ said:
Yes, isn't that 2ndboot thing necessary to be able to boot any custom rom? So now if I would like to install a custom rom I should (update to Froyo,) root, install 2nd init and then flash the rom and recover the nandroid for that build?
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Yes that's right, but what nandroid do you mean? Usually you don't have to recover nandroid. For CM7,9,10 you should just flash .zip from cwm. For ms2ginger you have to follow the instructions in op (there you have to use a nand backup)
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No, there are ROMs without custom kernel as well. Cm7 and all miui builds are based on stock kernel ( all GB ROMs). JB is available in both, so is ICS, and only a couple of ROMs are nandroid backups, rest are zips. Remember to wipe data as well while flashing builds
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If Froyo is officially deployed in your area and carrier go for it
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Ok, so now I'm into work. I've already rooted and installed 2init. Nest step is to install a custom rom but I can't decide from this three: Epsylon3's CM9.1 Android 4.0.4, [email protected]'s CM10 Moto Ice Gun Edition or Quarx's CM10 Android 4.1.2. What would you recommend if looking for stability?
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Ok, so now I'm into work. I've already rooted and installed 2init. Nest step is to install a custom rom but I can't decide from this three: Epsylon3's CM9.1 Android 4.0.4, [email protected]'s CM10 Moto Ice Gun Edition or Quarx's CM10 Android 4.1.2. What would you recommend if looking for stability?
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Sorry, as you see in the sticky in this very section, asking which is ROM is best in any category (stability, speed, whatever) is strictly against forum rules. Thanks for your cooperation.
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Sorry, as you see in the sticky in this very section, asking which is ROM is best in any category (stability, speed, whatever) is strictly against forum rules. Thanks for your cooperation.
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Ok, sorry.
Related
when installing CM9 to your defy is it the same process for flashing CM7 or is there a slight variation or something?
Now why would you open a new thread for this question?
i realised that i could've directly asked on the actual CM9 thread, only after i'd just posted this thread, sorry.
another weird thread
nyambayo97 said:
when installing CM9 to your defy is it the same process for flashing CM7 or is there a slight variation or something?
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Why a separate thread
but pls refer this
dlcookie said:
Why a separate thread
but pls refer this
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No offence but this video is pretty useless. Good to see what can be done. but can't see what the dude is actually doing :|
boswald said:
No offence but this video is pretty useless. Good to see what can be done. but can't see what the dude is actually doing :|
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is there anything u want to see in this video that i missed explaining >?
The original thread was Dev based, about the ROM being released and how stable it is as released. This thread was noob based about how to flash said ROM and if it is different from another, very similar ROM.
Why clutter one thread when you can have two?
Anyway, to answer the question instead of of questioning the question, Yes the basic principle is the same. Once you have the System Recovery installed, it's a case of copying the CM9 zip file to your SD card and flashing the same as CM7, although the way I've personally done it is using Multiboot, so that I can normally use CM7 for "production" but can have a go and see how CM9 is progressing for a few minutes or so.
The Multiboot thread is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364659
Have fun.
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The original thread was Dev based, about the ROM being released and how stable it is as released. This thread was noob based about how to flash said ROM and if it is different from another, very similar ROM.
Why clutter one thread when you can have two?
Anyway, to answer the question instead of of questioning the question, Yes the basic principle is the same. Once you have the System Recovery installed, it's a case of copying the CM9 zip file to your SD card and flashing the same as CM7, although the way I've personally done it is using Multiboot, so that I can normally use CM7 for "production" but can have a go and see how CM9 is progressing for a few minutes or so.
The Multiboot thread is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364659
Have fun.
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And to get back to CM7 from CM9, you only have to flash the CM7 zip?
Percz said:
The original thread was Dev based, about the ROM being released and how stable it is as released. This thread was noob based about how to flash said ROM and if it is different from another, very similar ROM.
Why clutter one thread when you can have two?
Anyway, to answer the question instead of of questioning the question, Yes the basic principle is the same. Once you have the System Recovery installed, it's a case of copying the CM9 zip file to your SD card and flashing the same as CM7, although the way I've personally done it is using Multiboot, so that I can normally use CM7 for "production" but can have a go and see how CM9 is progressing for a few minutes or so.
The Multiboot thread is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364659
Have fun.
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Thanks. I hope it is easy to boot into recovery and go back to nandroid backup of CM7. I want to try ICS over the weekend.
Install CWM.
Apply Bootmenu 1.0.4.zip
Reboot
Wipe Cache/Data
Apply CM9.zip
Reboot
be happy.
oh okay thanks
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Have a look at this guide on flashing CM9 as a second ROM, using multiboot
[Guide] Install double boot CM7 + CM9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375156
i am currently running cm7, but have no idea which version of bootmenu or CWM is running on my handset...how do i check??and if its a different version from the 1 being recommended here, do i needa change it somehow??
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i am currently running cm7, but have no idea which version of bootmenu or CWM is running on my handset...how do i check??and if its a different version from the 1 being recommended here, do i needa change it somehow??
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Reboot and press vol- when you seen blue light. You'll be taken to the bootmenu. It's stated in there version of your current bootmenu.
And yes you need to change it speaking of compatibility..
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farsight73 said:
Reboot and press vol- when you seen blue light. You'll be taken to the bootmenu. It's stated in there version of your current bootmenu.
And yes you need to change it speaking of compatibility..
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Absolutely not. You don't need to mess around with bootmenu versions and other stuff. Just read the thread i pointed to above, it works, proven by people following it with succes, and no need to change bootmenus
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Hi Guys!
I just saw the latest nightly but I'm afraid to flash since kernel will be change and I might not be able to downgrade to stock 2.2.2. May I know if there is a way to flash the latest nightly but also being able to downgrade to stock 2.2.2? I'm currently using CM7 stable ROM
Thanks!
Yes you can downgrade it using your stock 2.2 sbf.
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martt said:
Install CWM.
Apply Bootmenu 1.0.4.zip
Reboot
Wipe Cache/Data
Apply CM9.zip
Reboot
be happy.
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I flashed stock full sbf 2.2.2
Rooted using superoneclick
Installed scndInitvs2.0 which gave an option of installing either 0.6.5 or 1.0.7 bootmenu. So chose 1.0.7
Rebooted a couple of times.
Did factory reset , cleared cache and cleared dalvik cache in that order.
applied 12-07 CM9 zip
and rebooted
but my phone is stuck on the M logo!
Thanks! As I want to try the Dec. 7 nightly just for testing purposes. Thanks again!
This is a kernal issue mine is the same im trying to find the best way to update the kernal if anyone knows please let me know
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I've really searched everywhere but it's too complicated and i can't seem to find a solution.
So, my issue is that i have installed the ICS CM9 with GB kernel, but i want to install the WIUI 2.4.20 Stable (GB) version that is based on MiuiAndroid 2.3.7 (GB).
I am assuming it requires the Froyo kernel, and if so, i need to somehow downgrade it to froyo before installing it, but i don't know hot to do it...
can anyone please help me?
Also the kernel version of my rom is "2.6.32.9-g21f1a48"
Questions go in the Q&A section
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I've really searched everywhere but it's too complicated and i can't seem to find a solution.
So, my issue is that i have installed the ICS CM9 with GB kernel, but i want to install the WIUI 2.4.20 Stable (GB) version that is based on MiuiAndroid 2.3.7 (GB).
I am assuming it requires the Froyo kernel, and if so, i need to somehow downgrade it to froyo before installing it, but i don't know hot to do it...
can anyone please help me?
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as far as i remember 32 is froyos kernel..(35 is gb's kernel)
so what is the problem???
Numbers are the same I thought. If you flashedthe gingerbread kernel from the recovery, just search for the froyo kernel zip (there is one on epsy's site) and flash it with the froyo based ROM.
Don't forget to wipe.
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Numbers are the same I thought. If you flashedthe gingerbread kernel from the recovery, just search for the froyo kernel zip (there is one on epsy's site) and flash it with the froyo based ROM.
Don't forget to wipe.
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Hello, I read on a lots of topic that say we have to pass on nandroid and other thing for downgrade.. so i want to be sure that i can downgrade my gb kernel to froyo kernel juste like this..
When i read that, that or that for me it is impossible directly...
Thank you.
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Ok, I think the title is clear enough but, I'd like to know if there are any MIUI ROMs for the Motorola Defy Plus with a 2.3 (GB) Kernel. Thing is, I have Quarx's CM9 on Multiboot but I'd love to try ICS MIUI on it, but I understand I have to flash Froyo Kernel but don't know what would that do to my CM9 I'm so in love with.
I've searched all the threads on xda and the web but I haven't been able to find what I'm looking for.
Thanks!
Unfortunately Currently there is no miui build that works on gb kernel.
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Thanks for the reply! Is there another rom that I should try? I don't really know about another interface for 4.0 but it would surely be great if there were one.
Edit: I have another question, is there a way to install a froyo kernel on multiboot so i can keep cm9 (GB) on my default boot? I already have multiboot but I'm not sure if flashing wiui, for example, will damage the other rom.
Look at the miui ics thread by sesme
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Well as far as I know multi boot requires same kernel for the roms. I don't know if any recent development has changed it. You may check multi boot thread.
fabulosospucas said:
Thanks for the reply! Is there another rom that I should try? I don't really know about another interface for 4.0 but it would surely be great if there were one.
Edit: I have another question, is there a way to install a froyo kernel on multiboot so i can keep cm9 (GB) on my default boot? I already have multiboot but I'm not sure if flashing wiui, for example, will damage the other rom.
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*Don't respond with comments saying read this or that...
I have read the guides for moto defy mb525 U.S. tmobile and yet i don't understand a thing. I have a bionic and have rooted/flashed/sbf'd before so I have experience but not with this device. I tried understanding from the wiki and beginners guide yet it didn't help me at all. (I'm dumb)
MY Goal: Jellybean CM10 on my Defy
I am currently on froyo 2.2 and I don't understand how to get CM10
I have an original tmobile u.s. defy (Im pretty sure its green lens)
If someone can provide links I can learn:
What should I SBF to?
What should I use to root?
How do I flash cm9 kernel (I heard its the only way to get the CM10 working on a tmobile mb525)
Once I get a recovery I know how to flash and stuff I just want to be guided until I get to clockwork recovery and have the cm9 kernel flashed.
Please help, don't flame....its what makes this community great
Root it with SuperOneClick 1.9 for Defy! it should be somewhere on xda I dont know where use the search function...
Install 2nd INIT it should add cwm
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Sorry Sir but its useless to flash CM10(current version) on MB525 coz its being made for MB526(Defy+). Your efforts will be in vein. Why not go for 4.0.4 by Eppy? Latest build is stable as hell!
I read that you can flash CM10 by quark on your green lens defy but of course camera won't work
I got soft reboots. And the current version can't make calls/text.
Go for CM9 its really getting into its groove now
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NI55AN said:
I got soft reboots. And the current version can't make calls/text.
Go for CM9 its really getting into its groove now
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+1
Since you sound new to flashing roms, you shouldn't start off with an alpha rom you have to port, instead, start with an Epsy CM9 or Maniac103 CM7 -- both are stable and a good place to start learning about rom flashing.
***Before you start flashing sbf's, you should read the sbf thread and find an sbf you like that's on the same BL version you're currently on, or if out of warranty, flash a bl6 sbf so you can switch between the GB and Froyo kernels. I'm not going to go into BL versions anymore, but that's one of the most important things you need to learn when flashing Defy roms and sbfs.***
For rooting, I use SuperOneClick 1.9.5. Then just enable non-market apps and install Defy 2nd-Init Recovery, reboot into it, select wipe data\factory reset, then flash cm7 or 9 followed by the appropriate version of gapps. Those steps will soon become second nature, to the point where you can root and flash a custom rom in your sleep.
All the tools and roms can be found by searching the forums. Good Luck and welcome to the wonderful world of custom roms.
I got jellybean working thanks yall for the help.....its the kernel parts that threw me off but i learned
Google contact
sy0120 said:
I got jellybean working thanks yall for the help.....its the kernel parts that threw me off but i learned
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Pls , how to sync google contact for Defy MB525 using Jelly Bean 4.1
Bé Yêu said:
Pls , how to sync google contact for Defy MB525 using Jelly Bean 4.1
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Flash gapps for jb and then sync.
S3nt fr0m my D3fy/w1u1 GB st4BL3
nidhish91 said:
Flash gapps for jb and then sync.
S3nt fr0m my D3fy/w1u1 GB st4BL3
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Thanks !
I installed GAP and working normal now ! Howerver , I must have install " File Manager " from Market .
Hello,
How are you?
I am a bit tired of Touchwiz and some lag on the phone, so I would like to switch ROMS.
So, I was wondering what is the most pure vanilla ICS 4.0.4 ROM for the Note, wich is stable and has the fewest know issues?
I am sorry for this thread, but there are so many roms developed that it is really hard to choose.
CHeers and thanks!
gdourado said:
Hello,
How are you?
I am a bit tired of Touchwiz and some lag on the phone, so I would like to switch ROMS.
So, I was wondering what is the most pure vanilla ICS 4.0.4 ROM for the Note, wich is stable and has the fewest know issues?
I am sorry for this thread, but there are so many roms developed that it is really hard to choose.
CHeers and thanks!
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Well, Paranoid Android is a fantastic ROM for the Samsung Galaxy Note, as it offers a near-ICS experience that allows for both tablet and phone modes. Try it out!
Brad387 said:
Well, Paranoid Android is a fantastic ROM for the Samsung Galaxy Note, as it offers a near-ICS experience that allows for both tablet and phone modes. Try it out!
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Thank you for the suggestion.
Do I need to flash a modded kernel for that rom?
Or does it work stable and fast with stock GB kernel?
Cheers!
gdourado said:
Thank you for the suggestion.
Do I need to flash a modded kernel for that rom?
Or does it work stable and fast with stock GB kernel?
Cheers!
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For an ICS ROM you need to use an ICS kernel. But Paranoid comes packaged with the kernel. By the sound of it you are on GB at the moment. If it's already rooted, do a full wipe then flash Paranoid and the GApps package from the same thread.
If you are already on ICS, do not do full wipe until you have read up on how to do it.
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gdourado said:
Hello,
How are you?
I am a bit tired of Touchwiz and some lag on the phone, so I would like to switch ROMS.
So, I was wondering what is the most pure vanilla ICS 4.0.4 ROM for the Note, wich is stable and has the fewest know issues?
I am sorry for this thread, but there are so many roms developed that it is really hard to choose.
CHeers and thanks!
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CM9 is what you're looking for my friend ,try the latest nightly and you won't be disappointed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1627854
MR.change said:
CM9 is what you're looking for my friend ,try the latest nightly and you won't be disappointed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1627854
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Any downsides to this ROM?
I am currently on stock Note, with ICS 4.0.3 and stock kernel. Not rooted.
Would a kernel like Speedmod work better with the nightly rom? Or is a stock GB kernel better?
Whichever rom I choose, I need to use PC Odin to revert to GB before flashing anything, right?
Cheers and thanks!
Why would anyone use cm9 If Paranoid Android is the same with much more features..
You cant use any tw kernels like speedmod. Cm9 need cm9 kernels
can i install Paranoid Android from ICS through Abyss 4.2 kernel ?
i want the safe steps to install ...........
dawids2k8 said:
Why would anyone use cm9 If Paranoid Android is the same with much more features..
You cant use any tw kernels like speedmod. Cm9 need cm9 kernels
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So I cannot use modded kernels with Paranoid?
So the best way would be PC Odin to stock GB, full wipe then install Paranoid?
Would that give the best performance?
Cheers!
You can install it from ics if you want.
download Abyss Kernel 4.2
copy Kernel and PA Rom and Gapps Files to your internal SDCard
boot into Recovery
Flash Abyss Kernel 4.2
boot back in Recovery (to find under "advanced")
Factory Reset
Wipe Dalvik Cache (under "advanced")
Flash PA Rom
Flash GAPPS
reboot system
gdourado said:
So I cannot use modded kernels with Paranoid?
So the best way would be PC Odin to stock GB, full wipe then install Paranoid?
Would that give the best performance?
Cheers!
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You can use modded kernels with PA, but only cm based ones like AniDroid/bbq etc.. and not the touchwiz ones like speedmod/franco.
To install, follow what the post above says, or as you mentioned use Odin to go back to gb, root/install cwm, full wipe then install Paranoid Android.
gdourado said:
Any downsides to this ROM?
I am currently on stock Note, with ICS 4.0.3 and stock kernel. Not rooted.
Would a kernel like Speedmod work better with the nightly rom? Or is a stock GB kernel better?
Whichever rom I choose, I need to use PC Odin to revert to GB before flashing anything, right?
Cheers and thanks!
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As stated above cm9 only uses cm9 based kernel, you don't have to worry about that, it will install itself when you flash the ROM.
dawids2k8 said:
Why would anyone use cm9 If Paranoid Android is the same with much more features..
You cant use any tw kernels like speedmod. Cm9 need cm9 kernels
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Because not everyone like tablet mod, I've tried PA but returned to cm9 because the phone UI is more suitable for the note .
And then there is the faster update cycle of cm9.
MR.change said:
As stated above cm9 only uses cm9 based kernel, you don't have to worry about that, it will install itself when you flash the ROM.
Because not everyone like tablet mod, I've tried PA but returned to cm9 because the phone UI is more suitable for the note .
And then there is the faster update cycle of cm9.
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So if I go with CM9 nightly it will also install the kernel when i flash the Rom?
Cheers
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Just my two cents: I found PA to be super buggy in comparison to CM9, the boot splash didn't fit the screen and the UI lagged a lot more, some of the apps were great in tablet mode, but CM9 feels overall far more suited to the Note.
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dawids2k8 said:
You can install it from ics if you want.
download Abyss Kernel 4.2
copy Kernel and PA Rom and Gapps Files to your internal SDCard
boot into Recovery
Flash Abyss Kernel 4.2
boot back in Recovery (to find under "advanced")
Factory Reset
Wipe Dalvik Cache (under "advanced")
Flash PA Rom
Flash GAPPS
reboot system
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working great .. thanks alot
If I install a custom Rom, either PA or CM9, can the note be reverted back to full stock? Recovery, kernel and Rom?
I am on stock is 4.0.3. What's the best procedure to install CM9 nightly?
Cheers
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gdourado said:
If I install a custom Rom, either PA or CM9, can the note be reverted back to full stock? Recovery, kernel and Rom?
I am on stock is 4.0.3. What's the best procedure to install CM9 nightly?
Cheers
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Don't be that lazy read the post above yours
It got the steps .. but make sure u root ur stock rom first
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vegetables said:
Don't be that lazy read the post above yours
It got the steps .. but make sure u root ur stock rom first
Sent from my Egyptian Galaxy Note - KingDroid v5.1 - NoteCore v4
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If you want a true Vanilla experience install the 4.04 Stock Rom, you will find the there are now a lot of people using it, it is stable, fast and the battery life has improved. There is a large difference between 4.03 and 4.04 official ROMS.
I have been using it since it came out and I find that it beats everything else I have tried. On the down side the 4.04 kernel still contains the EMMC Bug so I cannot do a full wipe without reverting back to GB.
Roy_W said:
If you want a true Vanilla experience install the 4.04 Stock Rom, you will find the there are now a lot of people using it, it is stable, fast and the battery life has improved. There is a large difference between 4.03 and 4.04 official ROMS.
I have been using it since it came out and I find that it beats everything else I have tried. On the down side the 4.04 kernel still contains the EMMC Bug so I cannot do a full wipe without reverting back to GB.
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I have tried both .. KingDroid 5.1 which is based on 4.0.4 and AOSP like Paranoid Android
And what I felt is that AOSP is way smoother and faster than stock roms
Sent from my Egyptian Galaxy Note - Paranoid Android v0.5
vegetables said:
Don't be that lazy read the post above yours
It got the steps .. but make sure u root ur stock rom first
Sent from my Egyptian Galaxy Note - KingDroid v5.1 - NoteCore v4
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Hi.
My note is rooted. Thwart Rom is stock ics 4.0.3.
I already downloaded the abyss kernel and the cm9 Rom and places them on my internal sd. If i reboot to recovery, i cannot fond the options stated. Can you help me out please?
Cheers
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