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[Q] May I install a custom ROM over this firmware?

Hi folks
Yesterday I soft-bricked my Defy+
After a long and careful session of cursing every saint and patron I could think of, I managed to re-flash the whole thing ( mostly, thanks to this forum, so THANK YOU! )
Problem is, now I'm stuck with stock ROM, and from what I've heard since I cannot downgrade I can't install a custom ROM either
Before I proceed to try anyway and probably soft-brick again, can you tell me if there's anything I can do to remove my ****ty stock ROM?
I was using MIUI and it was totally awesome ( even if that's why I soft-bricked. ), so going back to MIUI would be perfect, trying CM would be pretty good as well ( but no CM9, I use my camera ), even MS2ginger which is basically semi stock would be fine, as long as I remove the stock.
My system version : 45.0.1320.MB526.O2.en.DE
Android Version : 2.3.6
Kernel version : 2.6.32.9-gbdd614e
Build number : 4.5.1-134_DFP-132
Thanks in advance!

Try this
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You can download the cm72-111213.0943-NIGHTLY-Defy+ here!
http://defy.wdscript.fr/defyplus-cm7/
twa_priv said:
cm72-111215.1631-NIGHTLY-Defy+ has the inverted picture issue.
Install cm72-111213.0943-NIGHTLY-Defy+ instead and install Camera.apk and overlay.omap.so from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20399252&postcount=14580
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Good Luck!
Motorola Defy CM7 RC 1.5 OC 1GHz

wipe data factory and cache partition and
install fresh Stock ROM for defy
then u know wht to do

@Leonardo
Thanks man, I'm going to try in the next days - I'm out for New year's even xD
Is this CM7, right? So Camera works, not like CM9.. If the battery not fully charging is the only problem I'm definitely going to install Cyan, Stock Rom just plainly sucks.
@Illumanati
uhm.. what do you mean? that's what I did to recover my soft bricked Defy, I already mount a Stock ROM, why should I wipe and re-install it?

Yes, i think the camera must work, in a red lense defy works replacing Camera.apk and overlay.omap.so, so i think in defy+ too!
PS: Has your defy+ a red lense??

LeonardoJegigzem said:
PS: Has your defy+ a red lense??
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all defy+ come with red lens.....
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Shark107 said:
even MS2ginger which is basically semi stock would be fine, as long as I remove the stock.
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looking at ms2ginger thread it seems pretty straight forward to install this rom.
just make sure you download the correct ms2ginger 2.1 file for defy+. wipe everything and then use nandroid restore method to restore system and data, and advanced restore to restore boot, devtree and recovery. reboot and you're done.
from what i've read, miui doesn't work with gb kernel. so unless some devs come up with new roms or nandroid backup that does, you might be out of luck for now.

LeonardoJegigzem said:
Try this
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You can download the cm72-111213.0943-NIGHTLY-Defy+ here!
Good Luck!
Motorola Defy CM7 RC 1.5 OC 1GHz
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Nightly still has battery issues on the Defy+ aint it?

But when I was on 2,3,4 miui worked, I still had GB kernel right? XD it doesn't work on 2.3.6, I tried, it goes bootloop, but unless I am misunderstanding something it's not strictly about the gb kernel
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Or maybe defy+ stock 2,3,4 is not GB?
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Shark107 said:
But when I was on 2,3,4 miui worked, I still had GB kernel right? XD it doesn't work on 2.3.6, I tried, it goes bootloop, but unless I am misunderstanding something it's not strictly about the gb kernel
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i think you're right. could have something to do with cg version?
2.3.4 cg version is 5, whereas 2.3.6 is 6.

jh20 said:
i think you're right. could have something to do with cg version?
2.3.4 cg version is 5, whereas 2.3.6 is 6.
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I wish I knew .___. it sucks to be stuck with Moto stock ( whoa, it almost rhymes )

Maybe flashing 2.3.4 Kernel from CM9 via CWM MIUI works!

I'm going to try to flash MS2ginger 2.1 over 2.3.6, and if it goes I'll try the 3.0 as well
wish me luck! I'll post everything will happen, so other ppl in my situation can benefit
p.s. after a lot of searching on chinese MIUI forum and stuff, and after consequential blood tears over the poorly translated english of Google translator, I can officially say latest MIUI releases run on 2.3.4 Kernel
So Froyo is NOT required, and 2.3.6 is NOT supported as we speak

Shark107 said:
I'm going to try to flash MS2ginger 2.1 over 2.3.6, and if it goes I'll try the 3.0 as well
wish me luck!
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good luck, sincerely

Thanks
Very good, MS2ginger 2.1 totally works even on 2.3.6, the firmware of doom xD
If anyone on the 3d answers me, I'm going to try to upgrade to 3.0
Hope I'm doing some good for other ppl in my situation ^^ and not just spamming and flooding xD

[Q] Can a CM9 ROM be installed after flashing a Full Gingerbread SBF and recovering?

I installed a Full Gingerbread SBF, and also got rid of it following the guide here. In the same thread, I can see that installing CM7 can be done. Is it the same with CM9 and ICS, or other custom ROMs such as WIUI?
It is my only phone, so I am looking to learn from others' experience before doing it.
Thanks people!

Eneekay said:
I installed a Full Gingerbread SBF, and also got rid of it following the guide here. In the same thread, I can see that installing CM7 can be done. Is it the same with CM9 and ICS, or other custom ROMs such as WIUI?
It is my only phone, so I am looking to learn from others' experience before doing it.
Thanks people!
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Yes works fine
Just follow install directions on the thread for the from your using
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Do you mean that I should follow instructions from the thread I quoted?

Eneekay said:
Do you mean that I should follow instructions from the thread I quoted?
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The thread you quoted has a lot of info. Are you a green lens user that flashed a gingerbread sbf? Or are you a defy+ user?
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Questions go in the Q&A section

Green Lens Defy, Running Android 2.2 (fixed SBF)
Step666 said:
Questions go in the Q&A section
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Sorry about that and thank you for the correct placement of the topic!
The thread you quoted has a lot of info. Are you a green lens user that flashed a gingerbread sbf? Or are you a defy+ user?
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I am a red lens Defy user, who flashed a Gingerbread SBF, and I am currently running the Fixed SBF (Froyo) from the above mentioned thread. Do you think I can go on and flash CM9, or does my SBF might mess with compatibility?

UPDATE
Turns out you can follow the instructions in the link I provided earlier and flash any Cyanogenmod ROM. I am actually sending this message from my Defy running a Quarx CM10 ROM with no problems at all. Furthermore my system is fully update-capable. I have flashed almost all nightly builds of the Quarx CM10 mod, and the whole process has been super smooth.

[Q] Do anyone know what is the usage of kernel-milestone2-uk_2.2.1-froyo from tezet

After intalling CM10 by tezet, I find that I still prefer the CM7 by tezet. So I decide to install CM7 instead CM10. But when I installed CM10, I installed kernel-milestone2-cn-2.3.4-4.5.3.
So my question is that whether I need install kernel-milestone2-uk_2.2.1-froyo before installing CM7?
Thanks in advance.

same question here hope some one could shed some light.
before i went to cm10 i was on stock froyo though 2.2.

You should be able to flash CM7 with that chinese kernel you flashed, just remember to do a full backup and full wipe, you're downgrading.
Get the 2.2.1 UK kernel and put it in your SD card, just in case something goes wrong even if you get into bootloops you should be able to get to the bootmenu.
If you still cannot get into bootmenu, recover your phone with an SBF.
Good luck

zjuerkzhang said:
After intalling CM10 by tezet, I find that I still prefer the CM7 by tezet. So I decide to install CM7 instead CM10. But when I installed CM10, I installed kernel-milestone2-cn-2.3.4-4.5.3.
So my question is that whether I need install kernel-milestone2-uk_2.2.1-froyo before installing CM7?
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, you need to instal this kernel, else you stuck on boot logo. It looks like new CM7 builds doesn't contains kernel.

zjuerkzhang said:
After intalling CM10 by tezet, I find that I still prefer the CM7 by tezet. So I decide to install CM7 instead CM10. But when I installed CM10, I installed kernel-milestone2-cn-2.3.4-4.5.3.
So my question is that whether I need install kernel-milestone2-uk_2.2.1-froyo before installing CM7?
Thanks in advance.
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although someone has answered you question,I wanna answer that again.
Yes,you mus install it before installing CM7.Kernel is most important. The whole system is complied with special kernel Version.

benitoxu said:
although someone has answered you question,I wanna answer that again.
Yes,you mus install it before installing CM7.Kernel is most important. The whole system is complied with special kernel Version.
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I didn't include kernel not on purpose Will fix this next time...

I'm with the same question so correct me if i'm wrong,
For all who want to downgrade from cm10 to cm7 and are using CH-GB kernel have to:
1 - flash Froyo Kernel
2 - flash latest cm7
3 - install gapps
My question is, can I install this kernel by "install from zip" mode?

[Q] Stay on Eclair or go to Froyo?

Hi! A friend left me his Defy so I could so I can put it on steroids as it's working really slow. It's still on Android 2.1 (Vodafone Spain) and never touched. I've read all the necessary stuff for beginners and understood everything (I'm not new to rooting and flashing, I've a fully hacked Desi), but I want to know a few things.
First of all, should I stay on 2.1 as base or is it better to upgrade to Froyo, in which case what is the preferred SBF?
As this is for a friend and I'm not gonna have access to his phone everyday I need a really stable rom. Are the latest CM roms stable enough?
And at last, I've read that some of this roms come with the kernel, what does that mean?
Thanks in advance for all the info.

1) You can upgrade to Froyo, or stay as it is(will not really affect performance) although people report Froyo to be a bit smoother
2)CM7 is very stable and fast( you may use maniacs or other builds)
3)I think you are referring to the 2ndboot ROMs which include a custom kernel. Though I personally use them, they may not be stable/fast enough for everyone
I would suggest trying cm7,9,10 and check how it works out for you
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thekguy said:
3)I think you are referring to the 2ndboot ROMs which include a custom kernel. Though I personally use them, they may not be stable/fast enough for everyone
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Yes, isn't that 2ndboot thing necessary to be able to boot any custom rom? So now if I would like to install a custom rom I should (update to Froyo,) root, install 2nd init and then flash the rom and recover the nandroid for that build?

_SpAiK_ said:
Yes, isn't that 2ndboot thing necessary to be able to boot any custom rom? So now if I would like to install a custom rom I should (update to Froyo,) root, install 2nd init and then flash the rom and recover the nandroid for that build?
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Yes that's right, but what nandroid do you mean? Usually you don't have to recover nandroid. For CM7,9,10 you should just flash .zip from cwm. For ms2ginger you have to follow the instructions in op (there you have to use a nand backup)
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No, there are ROMs without custom kernel as well. Cm7 and all miui builds are based on stock kernel ( all GB ROMs). JB is available in both, so is ICS, and only a couple of ROMs are nandroid backups, rest are zips. Remember to wipe data as well while flashing builds
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If Froyo is officially deployed in your area and carrier go for it
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Ok, so now I'm into work. I've already rooted and installed 2init. Nest step is to install a custom rom but I can't decide from this three: Epsylon3's CM9.1 Android 4.0.4, [email protected]'s CM10 Moto Ice Gun Edition or Quarx's CM10 Android 4.1.2. What would you recommend if looking for stability?

_SpAiK_ said:
Ok, so now I'm into work. I've already rooted and installed 2init. Nest step is to install a custom rom but I can't decide from this three: Epsylon3's CM9.1 Android 4.0.4, [email protected]'s CM10 Moto Ice Gun Edition or Quarx's CM10 Android 4.1.2. What would you recommend if looking for stability?
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Sorry, as you see in the sticky in this very section, asking which is ROM is best in any category (stability, speed, whatever) is strictly against forum rules. Thanks for your cooperation.

TeeJay3800 said:
Sorry, as you see in the sticky in this very section, asking which is ROM is best in any category (stability, speed, whatever) is strictly against forum rules. Thanks for your cooperation.
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Ok, sorry.

Reverting to CM7 from CM10/Jelly Bean ROMs on Defy MB525

Hey guys, I'm currently running CNA 3.6.6 with the JellyX kernel (5-12 bfs) by Blechd0se. (Great combo, BTW :good
I would like to revert to the official CM7 builds because I admire the stability and battery life offered.
Now to my problem,
I know that I have to flash a froyo kernel in order to install CM7 successfully.
But on this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100) it is mentioned Latest Froyo kernel by Epsylon3: 16 May 2012
Latest Froyo kernel by Quarx: 8 Mar 2012. I was not able to locate these kernels on the respective servers (quarx2k.ru and defy.wdscript.fr)
Moreover,these links are dead: CM7 (froyo) Kernel http://m.cfa.aero/misc/CM7_Kernel-signed.zip
CM9 (GB) Kernel http://m.cfa.aero/misc/CM9_Kernel-signed.zip
However, I was able to find this one (kernel-froyo-222-179-4-signed.zip) on epsylon3's sever. It is dated June 13 and so I'm assuming it is the latest and should work properly. So will it? I plan on flashing the 9-12 official nightly of CM7. Also I read somewhere that CM7 comes bundled with the kernel, so is flashing the kernel even neccessary? I have also seen a test CM7 kernel by blechd0se, does anyone recommend it for stable daily use and will it be compatible?
I plan to follow these steps in flashing, someone please please correct me if I'm wrong..
CM10 recovery-wipe data-wipe cache-wipe dalvik-install cm7-install gapps-install kernel-wipe cache-wipe dalvik.
Should the kernel be flashed before or after the ROM?
I'm trying my best not to be a n00b here (my first thread here, and you might notice I have just one post and zero thanks ), but I really am confused because on a different thread I read that flashing an SBF via RSD was the only way to do this , and I think this thread will help others who might like to go back to CM7 if they are facing issues with Jelly Bean. I have done my homework reading and am not posting without searching. So Any help will be greatly appreciated , and if I'm being a complete bumbling idiot, please feel free to tell me so. :silly:
Waiting for replies from the awesome folks at XDA,
Cheers and have a great day! :highfive:
-Viki
PS: Off-topic, has anyone tried the V6 supercharger by zeppelinrox on our Defys (JB/ICS/GB) ? If you have, please share your experience I'm really curious, that's all
Cheers

You're confusing 2ndboot kernels with regular kernel. No kernel flashing is required, because they do not interfere and/or replace each other(2ndboot custom and stock Motorola).
You're better off with the regular kernel(Motorola one), the test one(the one for cm7) is in early development.
You will have to convert data from ext4 to ext3 via boot menu. Select tools, file system tools and convert to ext3.
So, the process is: Convert to ext3, flash Rom(You may wipe system before this for good measure), boot the phone, reboot and flash gapps(you may flash it directly after the rom, but this method works for me)
EDIT: Flashing directly works(just tested) for quite a lot of combinations
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i may add that you could either flash a stable cm7 + nightly bcs kernel is missing in the nightlies or you just flash one of maniacs... they come with a kernel and are the most cutting edge (the only cutting edge). good luck.

Again, the kernels above are 2ndboot and do not replace the stock; it's a misconception. So, either way the process remains the same; there is absolutely no need to flash anything else unless mentioned on the rom thread.
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thekguy said:
Again, the kernels above are 2ndboot and do not replace the stock; it's a misconception. So, either way the process remains the same; there is absolutely no need to flash anything else unless mentioned on the rom thread.
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Okay..Thanks guys! XDA forums are really helpful And so quick to reply too!
On the ROM thread, they say flash froyo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654)
I'm not sure what they mean..
Do I need to change the default boot to 2ndinit as well?
And can someone elaborate on what differences can be found between the official CM7 nightlies and maniac's ones?
Cheers and have a great day!

No change, no nothing. I'm not really sure about maniac builds, perhaps they use the newer kernel(custom), whereas official uses stock Motorola
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21686557
Differences:
LTO download. (not sure if merged to official)
panic daemon against RIL bug
cant remember what else.
NO custom kernel yet
but things get merged to official sooner or later because maniac is an/the official maintainer for cm7-jordan.

thekguy said:
You're confusing 2ndboot kernels with regular kernel. No kernel flashing is required, because they do not interfere and/or replace each other(2ndboot custom and stock Motorola).
You're better off with the regular kernel(Motorola one), the test one(the one for cm7) is in early development.
You will have to convert data from ext4 to ext3 via boot menu. Select tools, file system tools and convert to ext3.
So, the process is: Convert to ext3, flash Rom(You may wipe system before this for good measure), boot the phone, reboot and flash gapps(you may flash it directly after the rom, but this method works for me)
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thanks thekguy. i wasted half a day wondering if my defy had finally bricked and all it is was the ext4 causing the problem. with a quick google found this thread and your solution works perfectly. i only wished that they have sticky your solution as i'm sure many ppl are looking for it...

I do have a big problem. I followed all the steps (coming from latest nightly of CM10) with formatting to ext3 and the other steps. I tried to install CM7.2 and everything went well. But now I stuck at the Motorola Logo.
I even tried the sbf-flash but that didn't work because after RSD-Lite-Flash it stucks at rebooting. Anyone knows how to fix that?
And another problem is, that I cant charge my battery anymore :crying:

Stock recovery-> data wipe
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thekguy said:
Stock recovery-> data wipe
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That didnt work. I tried to flash the sbf by Quarx (4.5.2-109-DHT-22-fixed.sbf) and RSD Lite says "Please manually powerup this phone". But the Defy stucks at the Motorola Logo (Blue and Green Light and the softkeys are flashing up).
PS. At least I managed to reinstall CM10 in 2nd-Boot and now can charge my phone
EDIT: Now I did all the steps again and installed CM7.2. But now I stuck not at the Motorola Logo but the Bootanimation is looping... It's strange but I dont get a confirmation that I wiped the Dalvik Cache successfully....

How about full sbf flash
Or try this:
Cm10 bootmenu format to ext3 and flash cm7 zip. Reboot and enter custom recovery and wipe data+ dalvik + cache
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My boot profile is 2ndinit (not 2ndboot), does this mean that I am using Motorola stock Kernel?

Yes
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