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Tell HTC how happy you are with the locked bootloaders

Hey guys,
here is HTC Facebook page.
Looks like it is starting to pick up with people complaining about the bootloader being locked.
Maybe we can all jump on there and let them know how happy we are that they are doing this, along with what other phones we will be buying now.
Hit thanks!

Couldn't you just have posted this in here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094253
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dirkyd3rk said:
Couldn't you just have posted this in here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094253
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lol some one is cranky

dirkyd3rk said:
Couldn't you just have posted this in here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094253
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He did the right thing.

CheesyNutz said:
lol some one is cranky
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Lol, maybe...... happens when you don't get any in the morning.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Lol, maybe...... happens when you don't get any in the morning.
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lmao well that'd explain why you're usually a ****
OH SNAP

Lmfao.......
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conqu1stador said:
lmao well that'd explain why you're usually a ****
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:rolls eyes: im not usually a ****, just sometimes ..... *bastard*
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conqu1stador said:
lmao well that'd explain why you're usually a ****
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LOL...
Thanks guys.
Its not like i put it in the Dev section... Jeeze

conqu1stador said:
lmao well that'd explain why you're usually a ****
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Men who live in chocolate factories with bunch of little orange dudes shouldn't point fingers.

tejasrichard said:
Men who live in chocolate factories with bunch of little orange dudes shouldn't point fingers.
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Hahahahahaha im done!
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lmao...wtf is really going on lol

Well. I posted. Think ill post again. This really pisses me off.
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tejasrichard said:
Men who live in chocolate factories with bunch of little orange dudes shouldn't point fingers.
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Damn you, Tejas!
*shameface*
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Off topic: Im also sad because my 1yr old LG 46" LCD went out this morning. Sucker just shut off while I was watching it, doesn't show any sign if life. Glad I bought the bestbuy blk tie they will swap it out. Still pissed though. Grrr
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I just checked the HTC fan page. Only one post on that entire first page is NOT about the locked bootloader. That's just amazing to me. Question is, will HTC listen to what the customer wants?

SilverStone641 said:
I just checked the HTC fan page. Only one post on that entire first page is NOT about the locked bootloader. That's just amazing to me. Question is, will HTC listen to what the customer wants?
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yeah i saw the page too but they won't change it before launch... something made them do this to the 3d. basically i think htc is saying them do not support flashing custom roms.
ill stick to my new nexus s 4g thanks!

Here is what i wrote,
Signed/Encrypted bootloaders... Come on HTC... This really pisses me off. Think about it, really, what are you losing here? Almost nothing. It is the persons choice to root, so you lose no quality control.
But back onto the actually point. Signing/encrypting bootloaders or other functions of a device that a consumer owns was considered a radical idea. It was frowned upon and was thought of as childish. And that is how you guys are acting, childish. You lock down your phones because your scared of what.... progress?
I understand there are some problems for you with rooting. For example, free wireless tethering, ability to use leaked ROMs and other factors. But this is such a small hand off to wage war with developers. Microsoft did it, Sony did it, even Apple did it.... Look were they all are now. The hackers do everything they can to make sure they can hack and DOMINATE the devices they lock down. In Microsoft's and Sony's case, there is a difference in reason, piracy. Now, tell me, if I can already install any app on my phone, what piracy are you protecting users form by not allowing them to do anything custom with their phone?
You have brought the whole world a step backwards, as a lot of people believe in your philosophies, and eventually will standardize them. What this about to start is enormous, there is no problem right now for you because people aren't even trying to hack your gay signature checks. Why? Because those developers DONT BUY THAT PHONE. ------->DONT<---- Buy that phone. Now, once that this standdard is implemented with every single modern phone, you guys will be tormented by the constant stream of hacks and exploits the a full force of developers can bring. You will be stressed to the point as the iPhone jailbreaking scene replicates itself to Android devices.
I mean come on HTC, do you really want to start all of this? I wouldn't. By not locking down your devices, you gain more customers(even though its a small percent that would leave because of your decisions), you gain a better view from people as a good company, and you get the benefit of geeks saying good things about you on their blogs. Yes HTC, thats were all the reviews come from, US. We will spare you no mercy in our reviews if you condemn us to this treatment any longer.
On a final note, i hope to rethink your decisions to sign/encrypt bootloaders and other parts of the phone. The whole point of Android is to be OPEN, not CLOSED. Thats what makes it different. The point is to be open, no matter what COST or FACTORS convince you otherwise. I do not even want to buy the HTC Evo 3D now because of your changes. Now HTC, rethink what you have done, please, and see if you can change it before it gets out of hand. In the end, you are the company that gets to make the decisions, but we are the consumers who buy your products.
Thanks so much for a great ride so far HTC,
You will be missed
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HTC responded back.....
" HTC
Update on Bootloaders Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon...."
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So does this mean the Evo 3d can never be rooted? Or does it just make it more difficult ?
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Atrix Trade In

If I want to trade in my Atrix for a Nexus S or something that CAN ACTUALLY RUN LIVE WALLPAPER, what is the best way to do it? I've had this thing for over 30 days.

eBay and buy whatever for the off contract price
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live wallpapaer is overrated

I don't think you need another thread to complain about live wallpaper...
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lsxrx7 said:
live wallpapaer is overrated
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I don't think you need another thread to complain about live wallpaper...
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+1 stfu op with all the different threads complaining about lwp.

+1 if you cant figure out how to sell your phone you sure as hell wont know how to use it.

blunted09 said:
+1 if you cant figure out how to sell your phone you sure as hell wont know how to use it.
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just what I was thinking

I run live wallpaper on mine whats the trolling about
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WiredPirate said:
+1 stfu op with all the different threads complaining about lwp.
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Really guys?
- Purpose of this tread is not to complain about LWP. That's why its called "Atrix Trade In" and asks "what is the best way to go about trading in an Atrix." For purposes of this thread, it doesn't matter WHY I'm doing, just the best WAY to do it.
- I know standard ways of selling a phone. Just like you can sell anything else. I'm not an idiot. That's why I asked for the BEST way to sell the phone i.e. some exchange that I may not know about where people exchange devices etc, or potential some return program through AT&T that I may not know about.
No need to be complete d$&#s.

Bracemg said:
Really guys?
- Purpose of this tread is not to complain about LWP. That's why its called "Atrix Trade In" and asks "what is the best way to go about trading in an Atrix." For purposes of this thread, it doesn't matter WHY I'm doing, just the best WAY to do it.
- I know standard ways of selling a phone. Just like you can sell anything else. I'm not an idiot. That's why I asked for the BEST way to sell the phone i.e. some exchange that I may not know about where people exchange devices etc, or potential some return program through AT&T that I may not know about.
No need to be complete d$&#s.
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Really?? Sure sounds like you're one. Selling a great phone like this just because you cant figure out how to use lwp properly.(and its not that big of a deal anyway)

Bracemg said:
Really guys?
- Purpose of this tread is not to complain about LWP.
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Then why did you put the LWP part in your OP in caps?
Either your trolling, or you just don't get it?...
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I'm so confused. I'm using my Atrix right now, and I've definitely got a live wallpaper going right now.
Also, if you're really gonna sell it, Craigslist. I've sold a couple smart phones and plenty of music gear within 24 hours or less for a good price. Just make sure to put up pictures and your phone number, and if possible have original packaging and proof of purchase.
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klub242 said:
I'm so confused. I'm using my Atrix right now, and I've definitely got a live wallpaper going right now.
Also, if you're really gonna sell it, Craigslist. I've sold a couple smart phones and plenty of music gear within 24 hours or less for a good price. Just make sure to put up pictures and your phone number, and if possible have original packaging and proof of purchase.
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What the op means is he wants gingerbread, gingerbread brought along hardware acceleration. Hes going to trade his new phone because there is a tiny amount of lag in the launcher while using an ornamental wall paper. Well I am a ****, so I'll go ahead and say it, you are an impatient moron. You are asking a developer website how to trade a phone... GOOGLE IT.. on your google phone.
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ChongoDroid said:
What the op means is he wants gingerbread, gingerbread brought along hardware acceleration. Hes going to trade his new phone because there is a tiny amount of lag in the launcher while using an ornamental wall paper. Well I am a ****, so I'll go ahead and say it, you are an impatient moron. You are asking a developer website how to trade a phone... GOOGLE IT.. on your google phone.
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Well at least you'll admit it - that's the first step, I guess. Moron? Do you even know what the word moron means? Apparently I have "mild retardation" because I asked how to sell a phone. That makes sense.
And this is General Atrix forum. Development questions go in the Development forum. XDA, true, began as a development forum but has obviously expanded. Check the rest of the threads in this General Atrix forum - most have nothing to do with development. If anyone has mild retardation, it seems to be you, because apparently you can't read (note: illiteracy is a sign of mental retardation).
Thanks for the tip on Craig's list! I'll check that out. The lag comes in when you use a launcher with animations with LWP. LWP works, just not well enough for my tastes (I bought "the most powerful smart phone in the world" so things like this wouldn't be an issue).

The OP isn't really looking for help. This is just an attempt to take a jab at the Atrix veiled as a request for assistance.
At least that's my take on it.
-Doogs™

MrCooper2012 said:
The OP isn't really looking for help. This is just an attempt to take a jab at the Atrix veiled as a request for assistance.
At least that's my take on it.
-Doogs™
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You're probably partially right, just bc I am pretty frustrated - but I was really wondering.

Bracemg said:
Moron? Do you even know what the word moron means? Apparently I have "mild retardation" because I asked how to sell a phone. That makes sense.
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You had to google, that, didn't you?
Also, illiteracy has nothing to do with mental retardation, at all.

Bracemg said:
Well at least you'll admit it - that's the first step, I guess. Moron? Do you even know what the word moron means? Apparently I have "mild retardation" because I asked how to sell a phone. That makes sense.
And this is General Atrix forum. Development questions go in the Development forum. XDA, true, began as a development forum but has obviously expanded. Check the rest of the threads in this General Atrix forum - most have nothing to do with development. If anyone has mild retardation, it seems to be you, because apparently you can't read (note: illiteracy is a sign of mental retardation).
Thanks for the tip on Craig's list! I'll check that out. The lag comes in when you use a launcher with animations with LWP. LWP works, just not well enough for my tastes (I bought "the most powerful smart phone in the world" so things like this wouldn't be an issue).
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This site is called xda developers just so you know, and this is the general section... Not the useless section. (note: thats Q/A )
The atrix general forum is filled with confused people asking for help and giving advice. There are questions about the atrix in mexico, how to enable 1080p recording, how to get better battery life. Then there is you... Asking how to trade the atrix. Just say it to yourself... How to trade the atrix...
I'm glad your just discovering the interwebz but scooby doo is less confused then you.
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Mine runs SPB Shell and live wall paper without a hint of lag or a hicup of any sort.
Simply put....from your short ass first post it looks like this is the biggest problem you have with your atrix.
Just sayin'.
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kdspiv said:
Mine runs SPB Shell and live wall paper without a hint of lag or a hicup of any sort.
Simply put....from your short ass first post it looks like this is the biggest problem you have with your atrix.
Just sayin'.
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Side track.. That's cool... I think spb mobile is pretty badass. I thought with all that hardware acceleration it would be horrible on battery but it used about as much as adw which is practically nothing.
Goes to show op, worlds most powerful phone is pretty f*cking powerful. Let the software mature, or jump ship the nexus is a great phone. Just whatever you do don't tell us
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Amazon review says US unlocked phones won't be getting ICS.

I have no idea about the validity of this. I ordered the very phone that this review is for. Any thoughts?
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2TREU...eless&cdThread=Tx1ZKNEJXC5OB01#wasThisHelpful

As long as it is indeed a n7000 u can get the official rom updates here and the awsome roms from the devs. I am using a german note with hk rom and getting hk rom updates via kies . No problem at all.
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That review is not correct.
I just received that exact phone last week, from Amazon. Each Galaxy Note has a region code to indicate where it came from (Mine was from the UAE). This code can be changed to any region you want. This will allow for a stock upgrade to ICS, when it comes out.
Also, just like the previous poster said, you can root and put any rom you want on your Note.
I am running the stock ICS beta, from January. For me, it is awesome. I am running at 213 DPI which gives me the tablet mode look.

tanman21 said:
I am running the stock ICS beta, from January. For me, it is awesome. I am running at 213 DPI which gives me the tablet mode look.
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I'm sorry, did you say a stock ICS beta from January? For Note? From Samsung? Or did you mean the trial build of CM9?

Sorry, I meant the cm9 beta.

"Amazon review says" I wouldve stop taking it serious there. Dont believe everything you read on the internet.

intruda119 said:
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
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I live by that advice, which is why I take what you say with a grain of salt as well.

jklitten said:
I live by that advice, which is why I take what you say with a grain of salt as well.
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Rofl
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jklitten said:
I live by that advice, which is why I take what you say with a grain of salt as well.
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So you believe misinformation from an Amazon review, but don't believe the people in the forum where you posted asking if it were true? Makes sense.

Most devs go to the Amazon review page so everyone knows the truth about phone updates
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jklitten said:
I have no idea about the validity of this. I ordered the very phone that this review is for. Any thoughts?
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2TREU...eless&cdThread=Tx1ZKNEJXC5OB01#wasThisHelpful
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So you don't believe everything you read on the internet but you have a question about someone who "came to the conclusion " that Samsung won't update the Note? Are you serious?
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dwboston said:
So you believe misinformation from an Amazon review, but don't believe the people in the forum where you posted asking if it were true? Makes sense.
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So you don't believe everything you read on the internet but you have a question about someone who "came to the conclusion " that Samsung won't update the Note? Are you serious?
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I never believed the Amazon review, but I never discredited it either. I asked you smart people here at xda what you thought so I could make an educated decision of my own. I trust you guys more than an Amazon review, but trust my final conclusion more than either.

jklitten said:
I never believed the Amazon review, but I never discredited it either. I asked you smart people here at xda what you thought so I could make an educated decision of my own. I trust you guys more than an Amazon review, but trust my final conclusion more than either.
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So you neither discredit nor credit what is posted on xda and Amazon reviews nor do you place credibility on the opinions or facts of those places above what you personally believe which is based off the things you read which may or may not have any significant validity as to its claims, which is still eclipsed by the fact that you take everything with "a grain of salt" that is on the internet, which is the place you have come to with a question seeking an answer.
I think you should meet with an authority figure who you can't discredit, in person (to eliminate the internet factor), so you can get the facts.
I know the perfect person, he can be found in a mirror.
P.S. stay free

It'll get updated to ICS. Don't worry. But it will be layered with TouchWiz. In this year, Samsung will not be stupid enough to cut the cord on a 3 month old device. That would be pure suicide. The PR nightmare.

Basically true. My conclusions is derived from all the information I've gathered with consideration of credibility of the various sources.
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S4 release date in U.S.?

Hi,
Does anyone knows what the s4 will be released in the U.S.?

The carriers and Samsung.....

Baldilocks said:
The carriers and Samsung.....
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Don't have to post a dumb answer.
Btw OP, I'm guessing sometime in April.

Questions go in q and a
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Reviewers said:
Don't have to post a dumb answer.
Btw OP, I'm guessing sometime in April.
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It wasn't a dumb answer. It's the correct answer. Not my fault you can't understand the difference.

I hear at&t gets it first around the end of april. The rest follow suit in early may.

fix-this! said:
I hear at&t gets it first around the end of april. The rest follow suit in early may.
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AT&T might have awful customer service, but things like this are the reasons I stick around. AT&T seems to be very happy with the sales of the Galaxy devices and is becoming pretty fair with their updates, so it doesn't surprise me that they'll probably get the S4 first. Also, I'm sure that Samsung loves AT&T.
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jtc276 said:
AT&T might have awful customer service, but things like this are the reasons I stick around. AT&T seems to be very happy with the sales of the Galaxy devices and is becoming pretty fair with their updates, so it doesn't surprise me that they'll probably get the S4 first. Also, I'm sure that Samsung loves AT&T.
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I just switched to at&t from tmobile and i love them. Great service so far.

I know it will become available sometime in the middle of April. I'm waiting to get my hands on it to play with it
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ddavis300 said:
I know it will become available sometime in the middle of April. I'm waiting to get my hands on it to play with it
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For u.s at&t? Does anyone have an idea of the 2 year contract price? Im guessing it will be around 249.99?

j510 said:
For u.s at&t? Does anyone have an idea of the 2 year contract price? Im guessing it will be around 249.99?
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I believe on contract it will be $200. Or has things changed because of the LTE.

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I believe on contract it will be $200. Or has things changed because of the LTE.
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If it is 200 thats even better. Im not sure about lte pricing myself. About to upgrade from s2

I dropped AT&T after 10+ years when they refused to offer Android because they had their noses up Steve Jobs' sphincter.
But I went to T-Immobile which was a real mess.
Am on Verizon now, but will be back to AT&T for the S4 so I can have an unlocked global phone. No more CDMA for me. And there is no way in Hell that I would ever lock myself into a contract. Kind of like playing Russian Roulette just to drive a car you can't really save for.
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200 is expected...
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.

Wow
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The carriers and Samsung.....
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It wasn't a dumb answer. It's the correct answer. Not my fault you can't understand the difference.
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I literally joined the forum to let you know what a douche you are. It's miserable losers like you that make reading forums so painful. You think you're being cute, but FYI, you're not. You get called out for being an an obnoxious tool, but instead of fading away you decide to reply with something even douchier. Just stop.
You are not funny, so stop trying.

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I literally joined the forum to let you know what a douche you are. It's miserable losers like you that make reading forums so painful. You think you're being cute, but FYI, you're not. You get called out for being an an obnoxious tool, but instead of fading away you decide to reply with something even douchier. Just stop.
You are not funny, so stop trying.
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Actually, this whole thread is useless. Anyone care to present empirical information? Or more fodder bucket consisting of conjecture and heresay five degrees removed?
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Of course verizon will be the last with locked bootloader
But I love unlimited unthrottled LTE
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Whenever we go in to ATT store i run Speedtest on one of their 4g phones- usually around 8mb. Then i run it on my VZW and it's like 18mb. So i think verizon wins in that category.

GrowUp said:
I literally joined the forum to let you know what a douche you are. It's miserable losers like you that make reading forums so painful. You think you're being cute, but FYI, you're not. You get called out for being an an obnoxious tool, but instead of fading away you decide to reply with something even douchier. Just stop.
You are not funny, so stop trying.
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Then you need to get a life. My answer is the correct answer. Only Samsung and the carriers know for sure.
It wasn't meant to be a 'dumb' answer. Unfortunately, some people on the internet, yourself included, seem to have a comprehension problem.

Baldilocks said:
Then you need to get a life. My answer is the correct answer. Only Samsung and the carriers know for sure.
It wasn't meant to be a 'dumb' answer. Unfortunately, some people on the internet, yourself included, seem to have a comprehension problem.
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Please people just stop leave
it alone it didn't have to go this far
GrowUp said:
I literally joined the forum to let you know what a douche you are. It's miserable losers like you that make reading forums so painful. You think you're being cute, but FYI, you're not. You get called out for being an an obnoxious tool, but instead of fading away you decide to reply with something even douchier. Just stop.
You are not funny, so stop trying.
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Whoa same as above
S4 INFO

Here is why lollipop is delayed for the note4

Here's why 5.0 is delayed
http://www.talkandroid.com/235228-s...alaxy-note-4-not-having-android-5-0-lollipop/
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Man when Samsung shoots itself in the foot it really makes sure to use an AK47 and shoot the crap out of it.

So you are saying the next build will be ANK47.

And remember...that is just the international version...US Carriers will still be weeks or more behind that release.

assuming the person who wrote that article even knows what he is talking about; I didn't see any mention of an "official Samsung announcement"..

Not true already been comfirm by sources that this is incorrect infor, they stated that oculo does not get to modify the kernel let alone deleyed an updat. Also mant samsung reps stated we dhould receive lollipop this week.. multiple reps. Do thats a better jope.

O welll. Done waiting for It anyways. I'm rooting my device as soon as I can. Screw you lollipop. I would rather have my gear vr function properly than to have 5.0

Well I dont know about you peeps but I am actually buying the Oculus, so this delay doesnt quiet bother me, especially considering cm12 is running pretty well.

This delay has nothing to do with oculus why dont you guys do research before posting. Just another thread to get people the wrong idea to their heads..

egren58 said:
This delay has nothing to do with oculus why dont you guys do research before posting. Just another thread to get people the wrong idea to their heads..
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OK then, O wise one and elightened one. Please explain to us mere mortals why there is a delay. Forsooth, our puny brains connot comprehend the immense unimaginable contrivances of android deliverance.
I henceforth pledge my undying devotion to you. We will build thee a Church to reach unto the very stars themselves. Where you shall hand down the wisdom, nay, the WORD of all things android.
Blessed be.
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Temetka said:
OK then, O wise one and elightened one. Please explain to us mere mortals why there is a delay. Forsooth, our puny brains connot comprehend the immense unimaginable contrivances of android deliverance.
I henceforth pledge my undying devotion to you. We will build thee a Church to reach unto the very stars themselves. Where you shall hand down the wisdom, nay, the WORD of all things android.
Blessed be.
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Wow the craziness in this thread runs deep
Actually one of the head guys over at Oculus said on Twitter that this isn't true and they don't have the update and are not the cause of any "delays"

Your sarcasm o meter must need calibration.
But for sources:
http://au.ibtimes.com/android-50-lollipop-update-galaxy-note-4-delayed-further-1417052
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...e-delayed-due-to-Gear-VR-Compatibility-issues
Plus the one in the OP.
If anyone has sources stating otherwise, please post them.

They see me trollin' they hatin'...
Those aren't sources of anything, those are blogs and IBTimes is pretend news that anyone can publish. Maybe I should write a blog and post fake news too.
Believe it or not, not everything on the internet is fact, regardless of the blog that you read.

Temetka said:
OK then, O wise one and elightened one. Please explain to us mere mortals why there is a delay. Forsooth, our puny brains connot comprehend the immense unimaginable contrivances of android deliverance.
I henceforth pledge my undying devotion to you. We will build thee a Church to reach unto the very stars themselves. Where you shall hand down the wisdom, nay, the WORD of all things android.
Blessed be.
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Do some research... "smart one"..
Never said i knew why it was delayed but i said nor Cuz of this vr shii.... here is your proof since you couldn't do a search, you think Samsung would let some one with no experience with cellphone tweak their kernal?..
https://mobile.twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/561652982987915264

Who cares. It not delayed it going as planed.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S

agreed; Samsung never gave a specific date that they guaranteed this would be released to any of the US carriers..
reading/believe any thing on the internet just leads to false hope and disappointment, so my advice it to pay ZERO attention to anything you read about it on the internet, and if you want Lollipop so badly, there are several nice AOSP roms in the forums that will satisfy that craving for now.

Temetka said:
Your sarcasm o meter must need calibration.
But for sources:
http://au.ibtimes.com/android-50-lollipop-update-galaxy-note-4-delayed-further-1417052
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...e-delayed-due-to-Gear-VR-Compatibility-issues
Plus the one in the OP.
If anyone has sources stating otherwise, please post them.
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Right below me... I was mobile yesterday and could find the link, but this good sir did
egren58 said:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/561652982987915264
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You know, I bet this VR thing isn't even going to be a big seller, but because of it, we got stuck waiting for this update. Go figure..........

I was wrong. See that was hard.
Curious though as to why a site like sammobile would report that. So I'll go back to my original theory. 5.0 is ready and is in the hands of carriers who ate busy mucking it up.
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Temetka said:
I was wrong. See that was hard.
Curious though as to why a site like sammobile would report that. So I'll go back to my original theory. 5.0 is ready and is in the hands of carriers who ate busy mucking it up.
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thats likely the case, so whoever adds the least bloat,(TMO) should have it out first, but who knows when that will be.