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microSDHC Memory Cards

Hi,
I've been searching this forum for information about micro SDHC memory cards that can be used with the Kaiser P4550 and found that the A-Data company seems to make nice ones (fast read and write speeds) as tested by kms108 here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341277
However I cannot find where to purchase A-Data cards from within the UK. I have been looking for a Class 6 4GB memory card and have only been able to find one which I can purchase. It is by PEAK Company who are located in Taiwan I believe. I don't know if this card is good/compatible but I assume it will be;
http://www.peakhardware.com/products/productdetail.asp?Id=325&A=2&B=3&C=35
I have found out that the read speed of this card is 22.5MB/s (high?) but the write speed is 11.84MB/s. (low?)
If anyone can suggest an alternative class 6 SDHC 4GB card which I can purchase online from the UK or from a shop here I would be very appreciative. Also I would just like to buy a card that doesn't come with adapters and other devices lol.
When using a memory card within the PDA phone would the write speed actually matter in relation to the read speed for normal usage or should I just worry about the read speed?
Thanks

Just put one of these in my Kaiser last night. They have the 4GB too. These folks ship all over the world. Don't know what it'll cost to get across the pond though...
B&H

LordNubus said:
Hi,
I've been searching this forum for information about micro SDHC memory cards that can be used with the Kaiser P4550 and found that the A-Data company seems to make nice ones (fast read and write speeds) as tested by kms108 here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341277
However I cannot find where to purchase A-Data cards from within the UK. I have been looking for a Class 6 4GB memory card and have only been able to find one which I can purchase. It is by PEAK Company who are located in Taiwan I believe. I don't know if this card is good/compatible but I assume it will be;
http://www.peakhardware.com/products/productdetail.asp?Id=325&A=2&B=3&C=35
I have found out that the read speed of this card is 22.5MB/s (high?) but the write speed is 11.84MB/s. (low?)
If anyone can suggest an alternative class 6 SDHC 4GB card which I can purchase online from the UK or from a shop here I would be very appreciative. Also I would just like to buy a card that doesn't come with adapters and other devices lol.
When using a memory card within the PDA phone would the write speed actually matter in relation to the read speed for normal usage or should I just worry about the read speed?
Thanks
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If the peaks memory card does offer that speed you have mention, then it's faster than the adata, but do remember a class 4 may not neccessary be slower than the class 6, do consider the sandisk 6GB or 8GB, the results are better than the adata, even with the test done on a low spec PC, for me I will not consider the peaks, haven't heard of it, go for a branded one, the sandisk can be found from many uk online store.
higher speed memory cards do offer a slightly improvement even on phones and PDA, but are more noticable on a PC.
FYI
test results can only be taken into consideration if done by consumers (the end user), and not by the manufacture.
if you are interested on any of the memory card in the test, I have some of them and they are readly available, you must have paypal, do PM me.
kms

Thanks for the replies and info I guess ill be searching for the cheapest 4 or 6 gb sandisk card.

If you are shopping online in the UK be sure to avoid the following:
sandiskshop.co.uk
onlinememory.co.uk
pdaonline.co.uk
CarKitOnline.co.uk
but are all really anpruk.com
See this thread for more details http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345945
If you like to actually receive a product when you pay, best steer well clear of these crooks.

hey thanks for informing me about the crooks stuart_f . That really leaves me stumped about where to purchase a card from lol. I might buy it from http://bargainmemorycards.co.uk
Please help Many thanks.
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I have just found a 4GB class 6 A-Data that I can purchase online in the UK but its relatively expensive...might as well get a 6GB sandisk card for that amount i think.
https://www.memory-configurator.co....o_microSDHC-TransFlash-Memory_Card/index.html

Just bought a 6GB SanDisk one Class 4 from Amazon....cheaper than eBay and works great.

Could i have a link to the one you purchased from amazon please...just to compare prices. did it come from another company or directly from amazon? thanks

LordNubus said:
Could i have a link to the one you purchased from amazon please...just to compare prices. did it come from another company or directly from amazon? thanks
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I really don't understand why some people rather ask and wait than just type in 'sandisk 6GB micro' in Amazon's search. Next time, try to do that on your own...
http://www.amazon.com/MicroSDHC-Ada...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1197710976&sr=8-2

hey _Alex_ i had a look at amazon.co.uk actually i just wanted to confirm it was the same one. it comes with an adapter and reader etc which i didnt want. however the one that you referenced to is from amazon.com and i cant afford to ship from abroad. thanks anyway.

What memory card should i go for?

Decided to get a new and bigger memory card at once so i dont have to think about if i have enough space all the time.
But what should i go for? was thinking about a class 6 card or are a class 4 card enough? think 8Gb should be enough for me. feel free to come whit advices.

Definitely Class 6
SanDisk Ultra II Micro SD is what I would recommend!
Charltz

I just bought and received this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=120437329412
8GB Maxell Class 6 for £14 (normally a lot more) - and maxell have been around since the dawn of time as far as storage goes.

thanks for the answer, and yes that ebay deal was a nice one. but can the phone use a class 6 card to all its power?

Firstly, Woops sorry - didn't realise that auction had already ended. There are others on ebay, similarly priced but mostly brands I've never heard of
As for the magic using class 6 to its full... that I can't answer. Reading around, people recommend going for a class 6 and there's no harm in it.
What would annoy you more though, buying a class 4 - only to find out the magic can use a class 6 to its full and you could have got one for just £5 more. Or buying a class 6 first time round, and the magic not quite using it at full speed - thus not stressing it, and potentially even lengthening its life.
Know which one I'd prefer

Where to buy
Hello,
Does anyone know where I can purchase an Unlocked Htc Magic that will work on U.S. 3g network and not just GSM?
Thanks.

BboySidetracked said:
Hello,
Does anyone know where I can purchase an Unlocked Htc Magic that will work on U.S. 3g network and not just GSM?
Thanks.
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please dont to off topic!
isellapples: yeah i guess its best to go for class 6. found a card on ebay, but the problem is that im not sure who made the cards and i do like to know what i buy. Anyone have any experience whit http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8GB-CLASS-6-MICRO-SD-SDHC-MEMORY-CARD-FOR-NOKIA-E90-N95_W0QQitemZ230350051969QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_PDAsAccessories_MemoryCards?hash=item35a1eeda81&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C240%3A1308%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I bought a Transcend 4GB Class 6 which failed after a week. Sure it was a probably a one off though.

if you are in the US or kind find wher you are from look at this card. Is a great and fast card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183244

I'm using a class 2 16Gb Sandisk card that I was using in another phone. Works perfectly well.

Ordered my Focus!!! - Micro SDHC Question

I ordered the Samsung Focus with Amazon Wireless for one penny and a two year contract with AT&T! Couldn't be any happier with that.
Anyway, I ordered a case:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00495YF8A/ref=oss_product
And a screen protector (I know it's tough to scratch but eh, why not. Lol)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003F8C1GK/ref=oss_product
So I've been thinking about how much memory is on the phone. 8GB is nice but I will want to put a few of my 720P movies onto the Focus. I figured I could get 8B Micro SDHC (Class 10) and it would make it, 16GB. That's pretty decent, right? I think it will hold me over... Lol.
I did some research and I get the higher the class, the higher the write speeds. Right?
Well, what do ya'll think of this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220493
Thanks in advance everyone!!!

8gb is good enough for me....for now! Ill be buying a 16gb card soon enough tho because everytime you change the sd card you have to do a full reset on your phone, so id rather just do it now and get it all over with. So, what im trying to tell you is just get yourself a 16gb card if you going to be adding 720p movies...that way you wont really need to worry about changing the card later. As for the class...class 10 is unnecessary....class 2 has been proven to be VERY sufficient in the focus...even class 4. I had a class 6 and now I have a class 2 and there is NO difference in performance on my focus. Anyways, as for sd cards, be careful because some aren't working properly....I would say your safest bet is buying Sandisk...since thats what Samsung is using in the focus for memory right now.
Hope this helps!

Mr Patchy Patch said:
8gb is good enough for me....for now! Ill be buying a 16gb card soon enough tho because everytime you change the sd card you have to do a full reset on your phone, so id rather just do it now and get it all over with. So, what im trying to tell you is just get yourself a 16gb card if you going to be adding 720p movies...that way you wont really need to worry about changing the card later. As for the class...class 10 is unnecessary....class 2 has been proven to be VERY sufficient in the focus...even class 4. I had a class 6 and now I have a class 2 and there is NO difference in performance on my focus. Anyways, as for sd cards, be careful because some aren't working properly....I would say your safest bet is buying Sandisk...since thats what Samsung is using in the focus for memory right now.
Hope this helps!
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Well, if I put a 720P movie on there, I'll just delete it once I'm finished watching it. Not going to have more than a few gigs of music too. So 8GB is good for me. Obviously once you put a movie on there you can delete it and get your memory back, correct? Sounds nooby but just double checkin... Lol. The higher the class the faster it gets on the card, right?

sd card
i got a sandisk 16g class 4 from radio shack cost about $34, had it in since two weeks before christmas.... loaded it almost full, empted most of it out loaded and unloaded stuff, havn't had any problems so far....... been running strong and just as fast as without the card...

xThe Enforcer said:
Well, if I put a 720P movie on there, I'll just delete it once I'm finished watching it. Not going to have more than a few gigs of music too. So 8GB is good for me. Obviously once you put a movie on there you can delete it and get your memory back, correct? Sounds nooby but just double checkin... Lol. The higher the class the faster it gets on the card, right?
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correct...once you delete things you get your space back. I didn't notice much difference in transfer speed between my class 6 and class 2. So if you can, just save yourself the money and get class 4. There was an article I read somewhere that a higher class can actually make performance worse on the phone. Don't know how true it is, but class 2 has been perfect for me. No difference anywhere.

You need too spend some time reading this thread before buying a microsd card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144&page=3
Determining whether an SD card is Windows Phone 7 compliant is not a simple matter of judging its speed class. Several other factors, such as the number of random read/write operations per second, play a role in determining how well an SD card performs with Windows Phone 7 devices.
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2450831
A higher speed class can actually work against you because sometimes the maker sacrifices random operations for speed.
You can either wait for official "windows phone 7 certified" cards or take your chances. Read the first post carefully, especially the most recent posts. I personally have been using a 16gb Samsung card with no problems. Caveat emptor.

Sweet, thanks for the info.
This one looks promising...
Patriot Signature 16GB Micro SDHC Class 4 Flash Card Model PSF16GMCSDHC43P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220524
If you read the feedback, nothing but positive reviews.
"Pros: Very good price to performance ratio. Works with the Samsung Focus. Good read write speeds.
Cons: None
Other Thoughts: Not sure why some say negatives about the speed of the card. Maybe they got a bad one, but this tested out at just under 4.5gb write speeds. I had been using a Sandisk class 2 card with my Samsung Focus, but it would do some random rebooting and crashing. With this card it has been absoulutly perfect for over a week of use. I have 15gb of music and photos on the phone so I know that I am using the memory card along with the 8gb that is onboard with the phone."
Kinda sold on this... Should I do it?!?!?!?! Buy it right now?!?!! lol

This is pretty much what I was asking in another thread. I want to go with a 32GB card as I don't want to go through hard reset if I ever need more memory later on.
What is a good 32GB tmicroSD card hat works with Focus with no issues? I would like name of manufacturer, class and even the part# so I can source locally (go to store or order online).
Thanks.

No lie, you're going to spend a lot of $ and 32GB is overkill.

PaullikesWINMO said:
This is pretty much what I was asking in another thread. I want to go with a 32GB card as I don't want to go through hard reset if I ever need more memory later on.
What is a good 32GB tmicroSD card hat works with Focus with no issues? I would like name of manufacturer, class and even the part# so I can source locally (go to store or order online).
Thanks.
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like I said before class 2 or 4 and Sandisk would be your safest bet.

smuook said:
You need too spend some time reading this thread before buying a microsd card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144&page=3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2450831
A higher speed class can actually work against you because sometimes the maker sacrifices random operations for speed.
You can either wait for official "windows phone 7 certified" cards or take your chances. Read the first post carefully, especially the most recent posts. I personally have been using a 16gb Samsung card with no problems. Caveat emptor.
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thank you for posting that.

Cool, will do. Thanks

Might one of you be able to supply the MFG Part# of the working 32GB microSD cards you have ?

Patriot 16GB Class 4 working PERFECTLY!!!

Mr Patchy Patch said:
like I said before class 2 or 4 and Sandisk would be your safest bet.
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No sANDISK 16 GB class 2, THAT doesnt work, read the thread before you advise

jaraya13 said:
No sANDISK 16 GB class 2, THAT doesnt work, read the thread before you advise
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you dumbass! I've been using that for about 2 weeks now without problems....dont tell me it doesn't work!!!

Mr Patchy Patch said:
you dumbass! I've been using that for about 2 weeks now without problems....dont tell me it doesn't work!!!
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LOL, 2 weeks, that's a lifetime. I am so going to laugh when it starts giving you troubles.
I see you have never read the whole thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144&goto=newpost
In that thread you'll see that around 7 guys with that MicroSD had multiple problems with that card, including myself.
Good luck with that L!

Mr Patchy Patch said:
you dumbass! I've been using that for about 2 weeks now without problems....dont tell me it doesn't work!!!
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After reading the large thread on compatible cards above, it seems the real test is if you've loaded over 8GB of data onto the SDHC card (or over 16GB total in your case) and don't experience any problems. If that's the case then that's awesome (and it also sadly verifies the fact that no one knows which brand of card really works than the Sandisk 8GB Class 2, which is mentioned in the official instruction manual).
To the OP, I've stuck with the 8GB Sandisk. I considered the OEM version for $12 USD available on Amazon but decided against it, and went with the retail packaged version, which I got at Radio Shack for $20 USD. 14 or so GB will be good enough until the official certified ones are announced.

well ill just refer to him as mr arse... but mr arse is partially correct.... mine was stable up to 15gb then after that it went downhill fast.... so give the dude a bit of a break....

Has anyone seen any OFFICIAL announcement that there will be APPROVED cards for WP7. I know that Sandisk tried to pull a fast one and say their's were approved but then pulled them. Is MS even allowing such a program?

Which 16 / 32 GB Micro SD cards work??

Hi all - just wondering what 16 and 32 gb cards are working in general with WPH
What make and model are you's using???
And have you got Amazon links so i can buy one???

Firstly your posting this question in the worng section should be in question and answers section.
And if you had looked i there you will see plenty of posts on this subject!!!
Look Here

Hi
I'm using a 8 Gigs format in 2 partitions, which wp7 is slightly bigger than android and is working fine but limited of storage on both.
I'm think you will be OK as long you stick with normal brands (sand disk, nokia)
Just don't go for the ones from china 16 Gigs class 6 for £10 they are waste of money.

yet another fail!
there isnt any way of knowing if any card will work, ignore anyone telling you otherwise, your just as likely to get a cheap ebay working as you are a sandisk, just try sticking to class 2 or 4, thats not to say 6 or 10 wont work but its more likely.

dazza9075 said:
yet another fail!
there isnt any way of knowing if any card will work, ignore anyone telling you otherwise, your just as likely to get a cheap ebay working as you are a sandisk, just try sticking to class 2 or 4, thats not to say 6 or 10 wont work but its more likely.
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There are a lot of people that disagree. Some people have consistently seen a difference. Can you give the reason you believe there is no difference, or why the class 2's and 4's are more likely to work? I would just like to know before my friend buys one for his Leo

This week I changed my micro SD card to a 16GB class10 card and the new card is working much more faster than the 16GB card I used before. I don´t know if the class10 card is necessary but the card was not so expensive (25€ @ Ebay) and the performance is really better.
Greetz, Olli2.

drakepayton said:
There are a lot of people that disagree. Some people have consistently seen a difference. Can you give the reason you believe there is no difference, or why the class 2's and 4's are more likely to work? I would just like to know before my friend buys one for his Leo
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You cant prove a negative so to speak, you prove to me that they all work an ill take back my comment.
Of course thats not possible because it isnt true, so i am correct by default, there is no way of knowing if any card will work at all unless you have tried that physical card in your device
the reason class 2 and 4 are more likely to work is probably because of random access speeds, manufactures employ all sorts of methods to bump up sequential speeds on SD cards because thats generally all they are used for, large photo/video files, by and large there is very little random access at all, so they use methods that increase the sequential speeds but have a negative effect on random speeds.
if you look at most WP7 devices and the att WP7 branded cards most of them are class 2 or 4
now thats not to say someone hasnt made a class 10 with great random speeds as well which is why its possible you might get one to work but its less likely
hence my statment that its impossible to know whats going to happen, until manufactures either A, ensure that all stock on an existing SKU is identical (wont happen) or B they actually make a WP7 SKU its self, these threads serve no one at all, and potentially could lead to people wasteing money on something that doesnt work for them

anyone with an 8gb microsd card on their focus?

I am looking to buy a 8gb microsd but first I wanted to know exactly how much available storage i will have when all is said and done (when they add all the extra stuff that takes away from your store)
if anyone has one or just knows, it would be a great help, thanks

glueshoe65 said:
I am looking to buy a 8gb microsd but first I wanted to know exactly how much available storage i will have when all is said and done (when they add all the extra stuff that takes away from your store)
if anyone has one or just knows, it would be a great help, thanks
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About 15 GB free in total. But you should go for a 16GB card, and you'll end up with 22.5 GB free. And the difference in price is very small. Just make sure it's either a class 2 or a class 4 card, have a look in the dedicated thread here.

I had about 15gb before adding apps etc...

EnderPsp is right. Buy a 16GB card. You wont get to change cards later(without hard resetting) if you run out of space. I am using a Samsung Class 6 SDHC.
Remember, it should be SDHC only.

My first post!!
Just got my Focus and want to add a micro SD card. The very first post shows the good and the bad but I noticed that the list hasn't been updated for over a year. Are there any reliable 32gb cards that have a track record of working after a soft reset?
Sorry I don't have time to read thru the 120+ post in this thread to glean an answer.