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Hi all. Bear with me as I'm new to the dev community for the Android OS.
Basically the story so far is I've got a Droid Eris. I saw that there is a cable available called the Act100 Video Cable by HTC. This cable plugs into the mini usb port of the phone and outputs a composite video and left and right audio signal, yellow red white cables. I have a TV in my car that accepts composite input.
Through some research I've found that the Eris does not support this video out function. A supported phone for example is listed as the HTC Touch Pro 2 on sites where you can buy the cable. I've read in forums where people have mailed HTC about eris video out compatibility and HTC said that it isn't in the software by default but to try and search for an app that enables it. Therefore, the hardware supports it but it simply isn't an option in the software. So I want to make an app that simply enables the feature on the Droid Eris.
This is where my questions start. I've had only limited C++ programming experience so I'm prepared for any learning curve. How difficult do you think it would be to make an app like this? I know of some begginer guides but beyond that where should I begin?
How do you find out that the hardware does, in fact, support this? I would think if this were possible it would have been made by now, but I'd love to be wrong.
I'm not 100% sure the hardware supports it. I just made a guess because in the post I read HTC support tells the guy to look for an app that enables it becuase it isn't in the software by default. It sounds like it might just have to be coded in. At leat I'm really hoping it can be.
Sounds fishy to me. Every portable device I've ever used with a TV out function required a hardware decoder specifically for a TV. This can be done in software I'm sure but the other issue I find is pushing it out over the USB jack. Analog video source pushed out through a USB chipset doesn't sound like it can be done. I'm not all that knowledgeable about the Eris' hardware specifics so don't quote me.
As far as a pure software app that will do it, that raises red flags as well. As far as I know apps on a stock ROM run in a Dalvik VM I believe. They're separated from the system itself, and it's the system that controls the hardware. It might be able to be done but I doubt it.
The Touch Pro 2 might have the ability to do it maybe through hardware, but as far as I know the Eris doesn't have any of that.
I'll let somebody with more hardware knowledge come in.
Thanks for the ideas so far. Well since the touch pro 2 can output video over usb it's obviously possible to push the signal over any other USB. It would just be a matter of, as you said, the Eris having the hardware. I guess I was under the impression that the hardwares were very similar. I'm really trying to investigate this as much as possible and no one even answered me on other forums. Please keep this thread alive!
I don't know for sure if this can work, but here are my thoughts. PDANet sends data over the USB port to enable wired tethering, so an app can send data over the USB port.
So since we know we can send/receive data over the USB port, we must address the issue of video output. I don't know if this will be easy because of the way USB->Composite converters probably work (read output of the USB pins into each of the Red, White, Yellow pins). What would potentially make this difficult would be that with Dalvik I don't know if we can control what pins we are outputting our data to.
If someone wants to post more information on how the video cable works it would be easier to determine if it is possible.
Check this out. The Droid Incredible does it over microUSB. I wonder if all we need is the right cable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJyt463AoOA
I would love to see you make an app for this if its possible. Is there an option on stock incredible for this or is it an app?
Nindoja: Yea I agree pin control is probably going to be important for something like this. I would prefer not to, but would rooting allow us to get around the Dalvik restriction you mentioned if it ends up being a problem?
ihtfp69 and conap: I did see that the incredible does the tv out over usb. I'm not sure wether it is an option or an app though... I also read that the incredible's files were leaked, including one called tvout.apk. I think I read that just trying to install it on the eris doesn't work but I'm really not sure. In the least having that file to work with might be a great start.
I haven't been able to find that file yet unfortunately. How similar are the Incredible and Eris hardware? If they are similar it could be good news for a software solution.
Thanks for the replys so far! Any other thoughts?
Has there been any development on this?
nope, none public at least
Bumpity bump bump. this needs to happen!
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Theoretically couldnt One figure out what app and supporting files the incredible uses and then Just Port those files to the eris. Just like people have done with the gallery Candy genie apps?
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Izeltokatl said:
Theoretically couldnt One figure out what app and supporting files the incredible uses and then Just Port those files to the eris. Just like people have done with the gallery Candy genie apps?
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Did you read the thread at all? The problem isn't only software.... the apps the incredible (and other phones that have video out) use make extensive use of dedicated hardware to output the video stream.
We don't have that on the eris, so that would be really hard, and very slow, to emulate in software. That's assuming it could even be done over our USB port.
shouldnt be that hard, the same thing has been done for PSP...although its USB video out to PC.
its probably a step in the correct direction.
goto youtube.com and search for 'remotejoylite' one word, should be second video down, shows it in action via usb cable.
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That's assuming it could even be done over our USB port.
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Am I missing something, but haven;t at least three comments made before this one confirmed, several phones have video out, via USB. I think the assuming iot is possible part is over. The real question that no one has answered is if the Eris has the hardware to support this option. I don't have an answer, but wanted to point out that the possibility of video over USB has been answered.
If you look on Google you can find the tvout.apk and tvout.odex from the Incredible dump. Might be able to do something with it.
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Here is TVout.apk and TVout.odex
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=319214&d=1272756479
I think with the right cable and the right software we can get this to work.
We might also need system/lib/libTVOUT.so
From what I can tell, on a stock ROM the TV out functionality is provided by system/app/TVOUT.apk and a system/lib/libTVOUT.so
here is a link to a forum about the MyTouch and the tvout.apk and cable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=454333
mjgdroid said:
Here is TVout.apk and TVout.odex
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=319214&d=1272756479
I think with the right cable and the right software we can get this to work.
We might also need system/lib/libTVOUT.so
From what I can tell, on a stock ROM the TV out functionality is provided by system/app/TVOUT.apk and a system/lib/libTVOUT.so
here is a link to a forum about the MyTouch and the tvout.apk and cable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=454333
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Question.
Has anyone seen this work?
How do you make it work?
Do you select it from the launcher?
Is it in settings?
Because we would have to find a work around if it is.
Or just add it to the menu.
Ha.
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the Incredible dump.
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Will usb port work as a host on the Amazon Fire to support USB flash drive, card readers and other USB peripherals? The USB - micro-b port powered would have to be powered...
If it is, it would compensate to some extent for the lack of microSD card slot.
I have my pre-order in and will cancel if the USB port doesn't work on the host.
Hopefully Amazon will release review models soon!
Thanks!
If you've asking if the device can connect to a pc as a mass storage device, I've read that it can but won't know for sure until I get it in my hands.
Reread your question and I don't think it will do that.
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What he asked is if it will work as a host - which means if we could attach pendrives and card readers to it. No one knows right now.
I seriously doubt if the port will work as a usb host. Since, it is a micro usb port, you would need an adapter. But that's easy enough to acquire.
If it does have the capability to host, IE hardware. I don't think amazon would code the software side of things. Espy with all the hype of their could service.
I am hearing that the kindle fire can't use USB host support because it wasn't released until 3.1. Then what about the tablets that do support USB host like the skypad. Also amazon is using a custom version of android which very well could support USB host.
i think it will just be an issue of software, and that is fixable with time, i hear that other android builds with the same proc have the drivers so after rooting you may just be able to sideload the driver on and load it up.
i haven't got mine yet or i would already be tring to get this working, it opens up alot of possiblities with this device (more storage, head set, webcam, printer, etc)
i also hear that the wifi module has support for bluetooth, there just isn't a driver, this is also something to look into.
My boss had his fire delivered today. He borrowed the USB OTG cable (adapter from micro to Full Size Female USB) that I use for my Xoom.
We plugged a thumb drive into it and nothing happened.
Time will tell if software can fix this.
wesscoggin said:
My boss had his fire delivered today. He borrowed the USB OTG cable (adapter from micro to Full Size Female USB) that I use for my Xoom.
We plugged a thumb drive into it and nothing happened.
Time will tell if software can fix this.
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Did you root it?
PS Some news>?
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Did you root it?
PS Some news>?
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No.
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Really interested in this. I haven't opened my Kindle Fire yet and this is the deal breaker for me. Would be great if some tests were done including:
(Tests for USB Drives & SD Cards w/ USB>SD Adapter)
OTG Adapter Cable while Rooted
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source while Rooted
Gamernivek said:
Really interested in this. I haven't opened my Kindle Fire yet and this is the deal breaker for me. Would be great if some tests were done including:
(Tests for USB Drives & SD Cards w/ USB>SD Adapter)
OTG Adapter Cable while Rooted
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source while Rooted
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Ill save you the trouble ....this MUST be built into the kernel. Amazon would have told us if this was an included feature.
2 options for you guys.
BUY AN ACTUAL ANDROID TABLET AND RETURN THIS...
OR
HAVE SOME PATIENCE!
Do you guys have any idea how annoying it is to be working on something and getting bothered about whether or boy its done yet? All I ask for is patience. Apparently that's too much to ask for!
Us developers are doing all this for free. Donating fuels us.
Ungrateful nerds asking 'Is it done yet?' Just makes us want to say **** all of you and forget it.
Oh and just because someone's name doesn't have 'Recognized Developer' underneath it doesn't mean they aren't a developer.
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I understand your frustration, but development has been quiet on here. I think if someone put up they are working o nit and have list of possible features, questions would be quieted.
Either way, if you are working on this, then I am grateful, whether or not you post up what you're doing
death2all110 said:
Ill save you the trouble ....this MUST be built into the kernel. Amazon would have told us if this was an included feature.
2 options for you guys.
BUY AN ACTUAL ANDROID TABLET AND RETURN THIS...
OR
HAVE SOME PATIENCE!
Do you guys have any idea how annoying it is to be working on something and getting bothered about whether or boy its done yet? All I ask for is patience. Apparently that's too much to ask for!
Us developers are doing all this for free. Donating fuels us.
Ungrateful nerds asking 'Is it done yet?' Just makes us want to say **** all of you and forget it.
Oh and just because someone's name doesn't have 'Recognized Developer' underneath it doesn't mean they aren't a developer.
/END RANT
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I'm sure everyone is appreciative of your efforts. That being said... After reading this thread and specifically the comment you qouted I don't see where you're coming from. It seems to me that people are asking questions and offering up some thoughts or suggestions that they have, which is what i believe the purpose of a forum is. I intend no disrespect to you and appologize in advance if it is taken that way.
death2all110 said:
Ill save you the trouble ....this MUST be built into the kernel. Amazon would have told us if this was an included feature.
2 options for you guys.
BUY AN ACTUAL ANDROID TABLET AND RETURN THIS...
OR
HAVE SOME PATIENCE!
Do you guys have any idea how annoying it is to be working on something and getting bothered about whether or boy its done yet? All I ask for is patience. Apparently that's too much to ask for!
Us developers are doing all this for free. Donating fuels us.
Ungrateful nerds asking 'Is it done yet?' Just makes us want to say **** all of you and forget it.
Oh and just because someone's name doesn't have 'Recognized Developer' underneath it doesn't mean they aren't a developer.
/END RANT
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I was asking if it was already built in, just wanted to know if it would perhaps work under the correct editions. If you're working on it, great! I just haven't seen any information regarding such. Oh, and at the time I posted that, I didn't have a Kindle Fire so I couldn't test it out myself. I also don't own an OTG Adapter Cable but am planning on picking one up later this week.
Gamernivek said:
I was asking if it was already built in, just wanted to know if it would perhaps work under the correct editions. If you're working on it, great! I just haven't seen any information regarding such. Oh, and at the time I posted that, I didn't have a Kindle Fire so I couldn't test it out myself. I also don't own an OTG Adapter Cable but am planning on picking one up later this week.
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I apologize.
I have just been getting bothered about a custom kernel alot and dealing with some unpleasant customers (i work retail) I was just overly irritated.
Again, I apologize to you and everyone else.
Edit:
So it seems the consensus is that this will probably not have HDMI out (through a cable)
But obviously it can stream it's video over wifi (or bluetooth?)
So I want to know if anyone knows of a cheap solution. Like using Apple TV or Nexus Q (But MUCH cheaper)
Also, would wifi streaming, say Netflix, AND wifi streaming to the TV destroy the streaming quality of Netflix?
Let's figure this out!
So I don't think this has an HDMI port (Maybe micro to Hdmi?)
But does anyone know cheap wifi HDMI out solutions? Like Apple TV, but CHEAP.
This is one thing worrying me about this tablet. ($300 for the Q is horrible)
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Censura_Umbra said:
So I don't think this has an HDMI port (Maybe micro to Hdmi?)
But does anyone know cheap wifi HDMI out solutions? Like Apple TV, but CHEAP.
This is one thing worrying me about this tablet. ($400 for the Q is horrible)
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It supports MHL, so all you need is a $15 adapter to connect to hdmi
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It supports MHL, so all you need is a $15 adapter to connect to hdmi
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Can you provide a link as to where it says it supports MHL? I haven't been able to find anything about this.
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Can you provide a link as to where it says it supports MHL? I haven't been able to find anything about this.
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Sadly no, but if you watch the keynote you can see them using it on stage to display the screen
picked up a Samsung one for my phone from a local pc retail store last week... $45 Canadian. Had other models around $15.
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Sweeeet, still have an mHL from my last phone! Thank you
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Sadly no, but if you watch the keynote you can see them using it on stage to display the screen
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The one used on stage may have been one of those with that mysterious 3rd port that we won't have.
It's a great tablet, still planning to get one, but they probably left it out the spec for a reason.
aaronpoweruser said:
Sadly no, but if you watch the keynote you can see them using it on stage to display the screen
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That's may not the same model that's shipping though. We may not get this feature on the consumer version.
Check out around the 9:00 mark of the keynote. Whether it makes it to production is to be seen but obviously they are putting video out.. also on the Google Play Store under tech specs they don't mention the Galaxy Nexus has MHL.. but it does
Once MHL is confirmed I'll probably have to order up another Nexus 7 to use as a media server. I'd just mount it to my stereo cabinet and run it through my receiver. Too bad the HP Touchpad never had MHL support, it'd give new life to my soon to be retired device.
The Q would upset and confuse anyone who didn't already know what it was if they saw it in my living room. I'm not very impressed with the amplifier on it either.
Yeah If they confirm MHL I'm in. It does look like they had special versons with hdmi though. I'd be saddened to learn that I can't hook it to a tv. It was a deffinate buy for me before but without hdmi I'm out.
NinJustin said:
Yeah If they confirm MHL I'm in. It does look like they had special versons with hdmi though. I'd be saddened to learn that I can't hook it to a tv. It was a deffinate buy for me before but without hdmi I'm out.
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Updated OP
So it seems the consensus is that this will probably not have HDMI out (through a cable)
But obviously it can stream it's video over wifi (or bluetooth?)
So I want to know if anyone knows of a cheap solution. Like using Apple TV or Nexus Q (But MUCH cheaper)
Also, would wifi streaming, say Netflix, AND wifi streaming to the TV destroy the streaming quality of Netflix?
Let's figure this out!
I don't think there's been a consensus either way as to whether or not this will have HDMI out via MHL. THAT is what we need to figure out.
badbeat33 said:
I don't think there's been a consensus either way as to whether or not this will have HDMI out via MHL. THAT is what we need to figure out.
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See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736916
So prbly no HDMI, and if it has MHL we won't know until it comes out. So we may as well prepare for it not having MHL.
If it has it, well then this thread could be useful for a different device.
If it doesn't, then this thread is important
Either way. This will help people feel better about their purchase if they know there is an HDMI alternative.
I agree. I hope there is MHL but if there is another HDMI alternative I'm all ears.
NinJustin said:
Yeah If they confirm MHL I'm in. It does look like they had special versons with hdmi though. I'd be saddened to learn that I can't hook it to a tv. It was a deffinate buy for me before but without hdmi I'm out.
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Actually I re-watched the videos, and the only cord they are using is plugged into the Micro USB SO:
A) There is MHL (at least on the display, but why not all of them?)
B) They were just keeping it charged while they streamed the video through the Nexus Q (more likely)
If only we could ask someone that just got one free at the event!
Edit: Just tweeted to Aaron Baker of PhoneDog.com who received a free Nexus 7 at the I/O to let us know in his full review if it has MHL/HDMI and Tablet support. We will see what happens.
Engadget has posted their review and says that you can use an MHL adapter. Can we take this as gospel? Hmmm...
h t t p ://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-review/
Omg awesome, just hope it isn't exclusive to developer previews
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Engadget has posted their review and says that you can use an MHL adapter. Can we take this as gospel? Hmmm...
h t t p ://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-review/
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Read the bottom
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-review/
Update: We received some bogus information on the MHL. We've now confirmed that the Nexus 7 does not support MHL, meaning there's no way to connect this over HDMI to get video output.
Hello to the Community. I first want to say thank to all you great people. This is the BEST forum going and you've been a huge help to many times.
OK so I'm a new owner of a 16g Nexus 7.
The main goal of this thread is I'm trying to find a gaming controller, the cable to allow the controller to function, and then a cable that will allow me to play games or watch movies on my big screen. I have some knowledge of what I'm looking for but not enough. I didn't want to make the mistake of buying the wrong thing, especially on line.
The other day I go and buy a micro HDmi to HDMI and realized after that is no go on either the N7 or gnex. So I'm here: I'm confident I can get good Info on all three of these items that work well and for cheap.
I have searched around here, other forums and on line but I haven't find anything definitive enough on what I would all need and works most current.
Need to buy on line asap:
The gaming controller: I don't care if its wired or wireless. Whatever you experts recommend is fine with me.
HDMI capable cable to TV.
If I have made any mistakes in posting or didn't include enough info please let me know.
Thank you all ahead of time for taking the time.
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I am no expert either....just picked up my N7 today as well.
but i am pretty sure you need an MHL adapter...which is micro SD to Full HDMI female plug. then an HDMI cable from MHL to the TV.
as for the controller, i would probably stick with Bluetooth. you can use a PS3 BT controller (make sure it is official sony sixaxxis as some nockoffs use a wireless transmitter which isn't as easy and may not even work on the N&)
the PS3 controller i believe requires Root and an app which costs Money.
or there are other ones that gamestop sells called the Nyco playpad or something like that designed specifically for android gaming.
the Nyco requires a free app in the play store.
hook everything up, and you should be gaming in no time.
i personally can't wait to play some Old school NES games on my bigscreen.
There"s no mhl on the nexus 7.
htcevo4g03 said:
Hello to the Community. I first want to say thank to all you great people. This is the BEST forum going and you've been a huge help to many times.
OK so I'm a new owner of a 16g Nexus 7.
The main goal of this thread is I'm trying to find a gaming controller, the cable to allow the controller to function, and then a cable that will allow me to play games or watch movies on my big screen. I have some knowledge of what I'm looking for but not enough. I didn't want to make the mistake of buying the wrong thing, especially on line.
The other day I go and buy a micro HDmi to HDMI and realized after that is no go on either the N7 or gnex. So I'm here: I'm confident I can get good Info on all three of these items that work well and for cheap.
I have searched around here, other forums and on line but I haven't find anything definitive enough on what I would all need and works most current.
Need to buy on line asap:
The gaming controller: I don't care if its wired or wireless. Whatever you experts recommend is fine with me.
HDMI capable cable to TV.
If I have made any mistakes in posting or didn't include enough info please let me know.
Thank you all ahead of time for taking the time.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Hey there and welcome,
I have done a couple of the things you're aiming to achieve.
For the controller, I have purchased a cheap micro USB OTG host (Right angled) from eBay for about £1.
This enabled me to use wired controllers, mount USB sticks for films etc.
I purchased an unofficial Xbox controller from Argos for around £17, it didn't work 100% from plug in, I had to modify the key layout file which took 2 mins, now it's perfect.
With regards to the HDMI, I don't think the N7 supports MHL, android 4.2 however will support wireless screen sharing via a dongle you plug into the TV. I forgot what its called.
Anyway, hope that helps, enjoy the nexus 7!
Edit: software is called miracast, looks promising. And if this method is preferred I guess a wireless controller is preferred too!
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lukems said:
Hey there and welcome,
I have done a couple of the things you're aiming to achieve.
For the controller, I have purchased a cheap micro USB OTG host (Right angled) from eBay for about £1.
This enabled me to use wired controllers, mount USB sticks for films etc.
I purchased an unofficial Xbox controller from Argos for around £17, it didn't work 100% from plug in, I had to modify the key layout file which took 2 mins, now it's perfect.
With regards to the HDMI, I don't think the N7 supports MHL, android 4.2 however will support wireless screen sharing via a dongle you plug into the TV. I forgot what its called.
Anyway, hope that helps, enjoy the nexus 7!
Edit: software is called miracast, looks promising. And if this method is preferred I guess a wireless controller is preferred too!
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Yo thank you for the reply buddy
Sucks no Hdmi but o well gaming with a controller(wired or not) will work for now. What i wanted was to specifically find some ppl who had experience with a setup that confirmed working as recent as poss.
Price wise 1 for the cable and 17 for the controller works for me.
Do you mind linking me to the 2 products?
I wanna order something on line like now. Lol
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htcevo4g03 said:
Yo thank you for the reply buddy
Sucks no Hdmi but o well gaming with a controller(wired or not) will work for now. What i wanted was to specifically find some ppl who had experience with a setup that confirmed working as recent as poss.
Price wise 1 for the cable and 17 for the controller works for me.
Do you mind linking me to the 2 products?
I wanna order something on line like now. Lol
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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Android 4.2 will give you an HD video outpout with Miracast
turdbogls said:
I am no expert either....just picked up my N7 today as well.
but i am pretty sure you need an MHL adapter...which is micro SD to Full HDMI female plug. then an HDMI cable from MHL to the TV.
as for the controller, i would probably stick with Bluetooth. you can use a PS3 BT controller (make sure it is official sony sixaxxis as some nockoffs use a wireless transmitter which isn't as easy and may not even work on the N&)
the PS3 controller i believe requires Root and an app which costs Money.
or there are other ones that gamestop sells called the Nyco playpad or something like that designed specifically for android gaming.
the Nyco requires a free app in the play store.
hook everything up, and you should be gaming in no time.
i personally can't wait to play some Old school NES games on my bigscreen.
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Hey dude thanks for the reply
OK so see this is why i can get confused. The one reply below yours says n7 has no mhl support which I did hear multiple times other places online. But your saying it IS POSSIBLE with the MHL adapter( and I've seen it done on YouTube somehow). If it is me.that is misunderstanding what is being said, please 4give me,
--all I want is to game with a controller on my N7, if its possible to do it on a big screen...GREAT, if not no biggie at all. I just want to understand it however it is.
Make the purchases asap so they can get here asap. Lol
This can be really frustrating lol
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htcevo4g03 said:
Hey dude thanks for the reply
OK so see this is why i can get confused. The one reply below yours says n7 has no mhl support which I did hear multiple times other places online. But your saying it IS POSSIBLE with the MHL adapter( and I've seen it done on YouTube somehow). If it is me.that is misunderstanding what is being said, please 4give me,
--all I want is to game with a controller on my N7, if its possible to do it on a big screen...GREAT, if not no biggie at all. I just want to understand it however it is.
Make the purchases asap so they can get here asap. Lol
This can be really frustrating lol
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Like i said, i am new to this device as well. i though for sure i saw that MHL worked and since it works with the Gnex, i figured it was OK to put that in my post.....I was wrong. looks like it doesn't work will have to wait for miracast and 4.2 for the bigscreen
htcevo4g03 said:
Yo thank you for the reply buddy
Sucks no Hdmi but o well gaming with a controller(wired or not) will work for now. What i wanted was to specifically find some ppl who had experience with a setup that confirmed working as recent as poss.
Price wise 1 for the cable and 17 for the controller works for me.
Do you mind linking me to the 2 products?
I wanna order something on line like now. Lol
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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Sure I bought this OTG cable:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item337bd7046e
And this controller:
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9088535.htm
Worked a treat, was a quick fix to make it work perfect I can explain later if you end up with these.
Enjoy!
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htcevo4g03 said:
The gaming controller: I don't care if its wired or wireless. Whatever you experts recommend is fine with me.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30575653&postcount=24
I basically just ordered a cheap, non-branded game controller (about $5), got a USB OTG cable with the same specifics (cheap, non-branded), and found a custom keylayout that works for cheap, non-branded controllers. Combined all those together, and I now have a nice controller that can play games like DEAD TRIGGER
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Sure I bought this OTG cable:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item337bd7046e
And this controller:
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9088535.htm
Worked a treat, was a quick fix to make it work perfect I can explain later if you end up with these.
Enjoy!
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Great lukems!! Thanks very very much for taking the time to link these. I will make a decision within the next few days and make the purchases. Can't wait! If I do go ahead with your setup can I pm you if I need to get that fix?
Edit: I forgot to ask, that website you bought the controller from, I can buy buy a that in the U.S. right?
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espionage724 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30575653&postcount=24
I basically just ordered a cheap, non-branded game controller (about $5), got a USB OTG cable with the same specifics (cheap, non-branded), and found a custom keylayout that works for cheap, non-branded controllers. Combined all those together, and I now have a nice controller that can play games like DEAD TRIGGER
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Thanks espionage. This is all I want haha. I will follow the thread you linked. Your a big help. I just hope w/e I decide on ends up not being too hard to get working.
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htcevo4g03 said:
Great lukems!! Thanks very very much for taking the time to link these. I will make a decision within the next few days and make the purchases. Can't wait! If I do go ahead with your setup can I pm you if I need to get that fix?
Edit: I forgot to ask, that website you bought the controller from, I can buy buy a that in the U.S. right?
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Yeah no problem, as long as the gameplay has the same layout as an Xbox controller, I know how to make it work. Other types will be a bit different buy I'm sure other people have got them working by editting the keylayout file, just send me a pm and I'll help with what I can.
With regards to the Argos site, you may want to find it locally for cheaper.
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Hey guys.
OK I got this http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=280894965492 for $7
I haven't had much time but with the testing I've done with the time I did have here is what I know:
dead trigger- I see that this game has a built in option to use a game pad and map the buttons. It seemed pretty simple to do. The one small issue I couldn't figure out was how to map the control to lower w/e weapon I'm using. With the normal touchscreen your able to move that up/down. With the controller it stays about right at a level where w/e weapon I'm using shoots the zombies at head level( which is great when shooting) but sometimes its nice to be able to move that, especially when you are moving. If anyone knows how to do this or anything else Im missing i would appreciate the help very much.
NFS Most Wanted- could not figure out how to get the controller to work. Any info would be great.
Asphalt Heat-I haven't tried yet but I'm pretty sure there is a built in option to use a gamepad as well. Correct?
MC3-Iv seen and heard this game is capable of using USB controller but I don't know how to get it work. Any info on this?
NBA Jam-tried straight plug and play with this game and had no success?
Beach Buggy Blitz- built in option for gamepads worked. Pretty simple.
Any other games that anyone has experience with plug and play or simple modifications would be a great help to me.
Thank you.
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Can someone please please help me. I got a USB controller that works. The game in question is modern Combat 3 on the nexus 7. This is driving me fricken crazy. I been at this for hours and I'm about ready to go nuts. I'm at the point where I'm trying to map the buttons on the touch screen. I figured out how to maps most of the buttons EXCEPT FOR HOW TO MOVE/RUN AND AND AIM. I'm trying to map the left analog stick to move/run and the right analog stick to aim/movie the gun around. I'm kind of able to but the direction I'm moving are all fed up and I can't get it right.
I'll be able map the right analog stick to move the gun around but up moves left down moves right left moves up and right moves down. You understand what I mean? It WILL NOT let me to get right how its suppose to be.
If someone can somehow someway help it would be a huge help. I've literally been at it for 2 day on and off and I can't figure it out. Its so darn frustrating.
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Can someone please please give me some insight on the specific issue I'm having regarding MC3/Joystick center 6 app/right analog with moving the gun around.( see above.)
I will donate to someone who can help me figure out why this is happening .
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Wow no help here at all. Very very disappointed.
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So I just snagged a prototype/developer model Play that does have HDMI out on it and I'm wondering in advance what the best choice of bootloader and/or firmware to use for maximum performance and battery life without interfering with the HDMI out functionality.
I did my best to sort through the ten million "I wish my Play had HDMI out" threads and what I could glean from MAYBE legit prototype discussion threads sound like it probably has parts of its modem removed to make room for the HDMI (which is fine since I want it as a portable/dockable game device) and that battery life might have a problem, which I would guess is from constant signal search that can probably be disabled.
But does anyone here actually have one of these? I'd love to benefit from someone else's experience with them instead of having to make all the mistakes myself and figuring everything out the hard way!
Thanks!
Mind posting some photos?
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I actually -just- won an auction for one of these off of Ebay... So I like the OP want to know, what's the real story with these units? I know they were display units for the stores to show off but besides that I mean. Do they have functional cellular radios? Are they unlocked? If I do a system restore through the normal menus will it screw itself over and never be able to use the HDMI properly? Does plugging in the HDMI turn off the XP's screen or does it splits its horsepower between the two screens?
Couldn't pass up on buying one, seems like a piece of history. I will post pics when it arrives (like a week) if that interests anyone.
Seller posted: " This is a fully functional Sony Ericsson Xperia Play 4G R800AT - Prototype Build TP HDMI. This phone cannot be activated or used on ANY service. This is a prototype phone. Phone's hardware/software is fully functional."
bonapartist said:
I actually -just- won an auction for one of these off of Ebay... So I like the OP want to know, what's the real story with these units? I know they were display units for the stores to show off but besides that I mean. Do they have functional cellular radios? Are they unlocked? If I do a system restore through the normal menus will it screw itself over and never be able to use the HDMI properly? Does plugging in the HDMI turn off the XP's screen or does it splits its horsepower between the two screens?
Couldn't pass up on buying one, seems like a piece of history. I will post pics when it arrives (like a week) if that interests anyone.
Seller posted: " This is a fully functional Sony Ericsson Xperia Play 4G R800AT - Prototype Build TP HDMI. This phone cannot be activated or used on ANY service. This is a prototype phone. Phone's hardware/software is fully functional."
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LoL yeah me too! I'm not at all surprised the guy who bought the other one also came here straight away with exactly the same questions as I have. There's still one left, if anybody wants it. We haven't received them yet but you can see the pictures the seller posted on eBay if you just search for "xperia play hdmi". I agree it would be nice to see the actual mainboard and once I give mine a complete function check I'll probably open it up and take some pictures.
I think that you have something different in your roms/kernels what let your Plays to use hdmi. So there is probably now roms or kernels u can use without loosing hdmi. Only root and mods
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I actually sold my Xperia PLAY about a month ago, sad to see it go but I moved on to a Nexus 5 in December and it took me all that time to let it go. Mine was not an HDMI model though, it was an early AT&T model without the branding.
For those curious I added the photos from my old prototype Xperia PLAY.
evilwise said:
So I just snagged a prototype/developer model Play that does have HDMI out on it and I'm wondering in advance what the best choice of bootloader and/or firmware to use for maximum performance and battery life without interfering with the HDMI out functionality.
I did my best to sort through the ten million "I wish my Play had HDMI out" threads and what I could glean from MAYBE legit prototype discussion threads sound like it probably has parts of its modem removed to make room for the HDMI (which is fine since I want it as a portable/dockable game device) and that battery life might have a problem, which I would guess is from constant signal search that can probably be disabled.
But does anyone here actually have one of these? I'd love to benefit from someone else's experience with them instead of having to make all the mistakes myself and figuring everything out the hard way!
Thanks!
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Would love to see some pics as well.
There are some ROMs out there that are meant for those without radios/cell planes, such as Xperia NXT Gaming, but your HDMI might not work properly.
There were stories a few years ago about someone who said they had a prototype unit, but not many actual cases. One guy even tried modding an HDMI in there.
This ^
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This ^
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Yep that's one of ours. I'm surprised we got them for the price we got them for, and that the seller described them to be "for parts" which would have been a shame. Unless I get some nasty surprises when it arrives I wouldn't sell it for twice the price I paid.
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Yep that's one of ours. I'm surprised we got them for the price we got them for, and that the seller described them to be "for parts" which would have been a shame. Unless I get some nasty surprises when it arrives I wouldn't sell it for twice the price I paid.
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It's definitely one of a kind
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It's definitely one of a kind
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Three of a kind at best
Always wanted to get my hands on a prototype play with hdmi never could find one:/
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The phone showed up in immaculate condition, as if it had never been used. The HDMI port is very rough as you can see, with exposed circuit board. At this point I haven't been able to get the HDMI to work - I can't find any options for it in the settings and trying two different HDMI cables on two different displays hasn't worked yet. It seems the seller was correct when he said the phone couldn't connect to its network, as putting my valid ATT Sim card didn't get me signs of life. WiFi works fine. If anyone has any questions or any ideas on how to make the HDMI work, I'm all ears.
You can dial *#*#7378423#*#* goto service test - hdmi test. Few options there to test.
I'm also curious about this,such a presious gem you have
Bakisha said:
You can dial *#*#7378423#*#* goto service test - hdmi test. Few options there to test.
I'm also curious about this,such a presious gem you have
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Thanks for the suggestion, I tried that and the video test did not display on the one monitor I have access to at this hour.
The HDMI status options all show as being "unknown"
The EDID reading option/ Edid Hex Data reads as "unknown"
Maybe someone who used this model before you flashed soft from other Play version and coz this u lost hdmi drivers in rom/kernel
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psxpetey said:
Always wanted to get my hands on a prototype play with hdmi never could find one:/
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Have you tried the other type instead of hdmi mhq or whatever it's called?
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Also did you try the hdmi option in service settings?
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yes
i had this phone with HDMI port 3 years age and used that for telecom exhibition
if you search on xda can find my post , i remember that i uploaded video and pictuesr both . but like always , some childish guys tried to say that was a lie ...
this is a real phone but is limited and just was for special offers to Sony-erricson like exhibitions .
I remember those posts everyone knew the phone was real lol they just didn't believe you had it because there were never any pics or vids that I remember anyway. But since you had the phone why aren't you telling him how to get hdmi working instead of sharing drama about how onetime childish people didn't believe you?
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Well I finally received my phone, postage due I might add. It is indeed in practically new condition and mine came with retail packaging including headphones and a little dock but no charger for whatever reason. The HDMI output seems to be a Mac style mini display port aka "Thunderbolt". I'm a real Apple hater so I had to order an adapter. When it arrives, I'll post my results. In the mean time I am willing to pull the back off and take some pictures of the board if people are interested in that sort of thing.
It reports
Baseband version 7X30A-AAABQMAZM-1290_21-42
Kernel version 2.6.32.9-perf
Build number 3.0.1.B.0.270
None of which seems out of the ordinary for an early build I guess... Anyway, I definitely won't update anything - other than rooting - until I get my display port adapter. Hopefully it will simply send an identical 854x480p signal out the port as it sends to the screen and it'll be as simple as that - one can only hope.