[Q] External Hardrive Problem - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I'm new to the Nexus 7 and I recently bought an OTG cable for connecting an external hard drive, particularly because I'm travelling in a few more days.
I've tried every HDD I have and none work, there is always a clicking sound for most of them and only my USB flash drive has worked thus far. The guy at the store said to change my HDDs to FAT 32, which didn't work but then I tried it on a 1 TB external HDD that I bought at the store, and after finding out that the HDD was too big for conversion to FAT 32 after like 7 hours, I tested it anyway and the HDD seems like it wants to work. The Nexus Media Importer pops up instantly like on the USB flash drive, however it takes an unusually long period of time to connect (waited for roughly 5 minutes before giving up) , and I have yet to be able to access the external hard drive. It seems like it is compatible with the Nexus 7 as there is no spinning and clicking sound so there seems to be enough power going through it, but for some odd reason I just can't access the files on the HDD.
Is it because I formatted it? Wiping out everything on the HDD?
Is there a power issue? Even though it seems like it doesn't?
Can someone please help? I might have possibly lost $140

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I use this app on my N7 and have varying luck with HDDs and it appears that the issue is sufficient power, which varies by device. I can access both FAT and NFS drives in cases where the drive ahs external power available so formatting is most likely not your issue.
Dave

sparksd said:
I use this app on my N7 and have varying luck with HDDs and it appears that the issue is sufficient power, which varies by device. I can access both FAT and NFS drives in cases where the drive ahs external power available so formatting is most likely not your issue.
Dave
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Yeah I think it's a power issue, even though it seems like it isn't. Funnily enough my dad's 1 TB external HDD seems to work so I'm swapping with his.

yeah some HDD's need external power. or simply cannot pull enough power from the nexy, ive heard some people have success with a powered usb hub
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trust-Port-Usb-2-0-Power/dp/B001UE6OC8/ref=tag_stp_s2_edpp_url
example--^
also what android version are you running? stickmount and nexus media imp' really only recently got updated to work on 4.2 so i you are running 4.2 expect some speed and stability issues for a little while.:good:

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USB Thumb Drive

I've have a 16 GB Sandisk Cruzer usb drive that I'm trying to use with my dock but I can't get it to work consistently. Here's the problem. It recognized it twices and I have plugged it in and takes it out many many times. I don't know what the key is to make it recognize it every time. I've tried undocking then redocking it with the drive in and nothing. I must have done something magically the two times that it work
I'm having a similar issue with the same stick. Once I get it to work, after removing and trying to use it again, the notification for it'll appear and then disappear just as quick and it's not under 'removable'. I have to reset for the tab make it available. Reformatting it (FAT32) didn't help.
yaaah_hoo said:
I've have a 16 GB Sandisk Cruzer usb drive that I'm trying to use with my dock but I can't get it to work consistently. Here's the problem. It recognized it twices and I have plugged it in and takes it out many many times. I don't know what the key is to make it recognize it every time. I've tried undocking then redocking it with the drive in and nothing. I must have done something magically the two times that it work
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What file system does the usb drive use (FAT, FAT32, NTFS)?
Mark.
Fat32 is the most used format around here, if i remember right, from several posts.
mskip said:
What file system does the usb drive use (FAT, FAT32, NTFS)?
Mark.
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It uses Fat32.
r_nt said:
I'm having a similar issue with the same stick. Once I get it to work, after removing and trying to use it again, the notification for it'll appear and then disappear just as quick and it's not under 'removable'. I have to reset for the tab make it available. Reformatting it (FAT32) didn't help.
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Same deal here man. Very inconsistent.
yaaah_hoo said:
Same deal here man. Very inconsistent.
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Remember Honeycomb is still in VERY early stages of release. Im sure everything will be fixed in time either by Google or xda devs
Mark.
If a device isn't being recognized consistently, it's probably Honeycomb at fault.
Like Mark said, it is still new... And it was rushed, too.
Yet it recognizes my 1GB Memorex just fine every time
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Yet it recognizes my 1GB Memorex just fine every time
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Some people are having no problems with cards and others can't get anything working. I guess there is some dependancy on the make of card, file system used and the time of day
Mark.
I've got the same Sandisk thumbdrive, I've created just a single FAT32 partition on it (got rid of the U3 partition) and when I plug it into my dock the light on the thumbdrive illuminates but I never receive any indication the OS sees it. I mean, should I expect to be able to see it in File Manager? What exactly are you guys referring to when you say "it recognizes it"?
Susido said:
I've got the same Sandisk thumbdrive, I've created just a single FAT32 partition on it (got rid of the U3 partition) and when I plug it into my dock the light on the thumbdrive illuminates but I never receive any indication the OS sees it. I mean, should I expect to be able to see it in File Manager? What exactly are you guys referring to when you say "it recognizes it"?
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Just like with a microSD or a dock, on the lower right side, notification of the connection should appear and when it does, you should be able to access the stick either there (like with the microSD) or through the file manager.
r_nt said:
Just like with a microSD or a dock, on the lower right side, notification of the connection should appear and when it does, you should be able to access the stick either there (like with the microSD) or through the file manager.
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Thanks, that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that Honeycomb on the Transformer just ignores this thumbdrive, other than providing power to it.
But I just tried a 2GB mini-SD card inside of an adapter inside of a Lexar Jumpdrive and that did work. So I guess it's a Sandisk thing...

Slow PC to Phone Transfer Speeds

Hi All,
I've searched the forums and I'm unable to find a resolution to my problem.
I'm having horribly slow transfer speeds from the computer to my Atrix internal SD card. I am transferring about 7GB of music from my 64-bit Win7 PC and status says about 4-hours. Used to only take a few minutes on my Captivate.
I've tried formatting the internal card, re-flashing back to stock, different USB ports on the PC, etc all without any luck.
Any ideas before I completely tear my hair out?
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: When the internal SD gets mounted, Windows is slow to find the drive and list its contents. The 2GB external that I have in the phone comes right up.
Wow. No idea. Iwas quite surprised at how fast toshiba emmc is. What speeds are you getting btw? Oh, i do know one thing possibly. Do you transfer files a lot? Flash memory has a limited life, though many of us never see flash die or start to die. But if you do these types large file tansfers, 7gb often, youre using up write cycles much quicker. Also, the folder youre transferring to is about 12 gigs right? Say you have 4 gigs of stuff in their already, and youre trying to put 7 gigs in, more than likely youre transfer speed will be slowed down. You need space to actually to fill stuff up, and the more space, the faster you can fill it up. I wish i could be a little more detailed. I know about this from solid state drives, and the concept is basically the same, but works a little different. I dont know if that is your problem though.
I voided my warranty.
n7slc said:
Hi All,
I've searched the forums and I'm unable to find a resolution to my problem.
I'm having horribly slow transfer speeds from the computer to my Atrix internal SD card. I am transferring about 7GB of music from my 64-bit Win7 PC and status says about 4-hours. Used to only take a few minutes on my Captivate.
I've tried formatting the internal card, re-flashing back to stock, different USB ports on the PC, etc all without any luck.
Any ideas before I completely tear my hair out?
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: When the internal SD gets mounted, Windows is slow to find the drive and list its contents. The 2GB external that I have in the phone comes right up.
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Take the SD card out of the phone and put in the adapter. Try measuring speeds via adapter. Your SC card might be dying.
His internal card.
I voided my warranty.
Just thought I'd throw this out there, when you format an SD card it asks you for the amount of "bits" you want to format it with. I would research which number is best suited for your particular SD card depending on how big it is. Cause the standard number it automatically inserts may not be the best.
edit: ignore post. For some reason when I read it, my eyes saw external SD card instead of internal. Derp and Derp.
Which of the four (well, three) USB modes are you using to do the transfer?

[Q] Second HDD in a notebook

I recently purchased a new Sony Vaio notebook that came with windows 8 preinstalled. It cam with a 1 tb HDD that was replaced with a 180 gb SSD and windows was reloaded using a recovery usb. I then wanted to mount the 1 tb HDD into dvd drive spot so I bought a caddy for it off of amazon. It was really easy to pull out the dvd drive and pop in the HDD in it's caddy and it fit perfectly. I turned on the notebook and it booted up and the drive was now recognized at D drive. I could see the windows os was still on there so I did the quick format option and then proceeded to transfer my music folder over from my external. I noticed through the whole process that the fan seemed to be running really high and I thought it was just because I was messing the new HDD but it never went away even when I was done with the transfer. The HDD seemed to always be spinning too even when I wasn't accessing files on it which didn't seem right if it's not being used. The fan is usually running but this was a full blast like I was playing a high end game. Windows gave me a blue error message about a kernel and rebooted. The fan immediately kicked in once it restarted so I turned it off and put the dvd drive back.
So my question is just if anybody has any experience doing something like this and has some suggestions? I want to try it again and figured it wouldn't hurt so ask for advice on here before I do. I figured I would try doing a different type of format as maybe there are still os traces on there that's messing things up. Thanks for reading.
ROORnNUGZ said:
I recently purchased a new Sony Vaio notebook that came with windows 8 preinstalled. It cam with a 1 tb HDD that was replaced with a 180 gb SSD and windows was reloaded using a recovery usb. I then wanted to mount the 1 tb HDD into dvd drive spot so I bought a caddy for it off of amazon. It was really easy to pull out the dvd drive and pop in the HDD in it's caddy and it fit perfectly. I turned on the notebook and it booted up and the drive was now recognized at D drive. I could see the windows os was still on there so I did the quick format option and then proceeded to transfer my music folder over from my external. I noticed through the whole process that the fan seemed to be running really high and I thought it was just because I was messing the new HDD but it never went away even when I was done with the transfer. The HDD seemed to always be spinning too even when I wasn't accessing files on it which didn't seem right if it's not being used. The fan is usually running but this was a full blast like I was playing a high end game. Windows gave me a blue error message about a kernel and rebooted. The fan immediately kicked in once it restarted so I turned it off and put the dvd drive back.
So my question is just if anybody has any experience doing something like this and has some suggestions? I want to try it again and figured it wouldn't hurt so ask for advice on here before I do. I figured I would try doing a different type of format as maybe there are still os traces on there that's messing things up. Thanks for reading.
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Perhaps the new caddy is blocking airflow? Also, the drive may be pulling more power than the DVD drive would and causing something to get overloaded.
I did this with a Lenovo Ideapad y550p and I never noticed any issues like this.
I'd try checking if your manufacturer has a public support forum you can post on, this seems like it may be a device specific issue.
HDDs generate a lot of heat (for more than most SSDs, incidentally) and your laptop's cooling may not have been designed for this source of heat.
You also bought a Sony device, which makes it difficult for me to even speculate what other problems might be occurring.
Thanks for the replies. I tried looking around the sony website but can't find much. I'll give it another go and check for some airflow and if that doesn't work then I'll just live with the ssd because I'm not giving that speed up.
You could try swapping the SSD and HDD. The SSD should generate less heat, which may help out.
So I reinstalled and did a full format which took over two hours but I noticed there were still hidden partitions on this drive so I got rid of those and expanded the drive all the way. Then I unchecked the box to allow random indexing on this drive and changed the power options shut off disk to 1 min per someone's instructions from a google link and it seems to working now. Figured I would post in case someone else ever runs into this issue.

External, Adopted HDD's *enclosure* died, replaced enclosure, can't access drive

Summary is this, I have the 2017 model (changed from the 2015 which had gotten the green flash of death), I had to rebuild all the data I had available from the SD card on my 2015. I had backed up the encryption key and was able to save all my app settings.
Both that one and this one were/are rooted.
Everything was good until the usb enclosure, not the drive, just the plain, generic enclosure that I had for an external 1tb 2.5" drive had given up. USB port has a torn trace. I could probably repair it, but it would be tedious and time consuming.
I took the drive out, threw it into another enclosure, the shield powers it up, but pretends it's not there, then after about 5 minutes at the home screen, with none of my adopted apps showing, it turns the drive off or puts it into sleep mode.
There were both completely generic enclosures, definitely no encryption chips or any other muckery that the OEMS like WD does.
Since I know the drive is perfectly intact, and AFAIK the uuid couldn't have possilby changed, is there any way to replace whatever it is, flag, config file, whatever that makes the shield think that only the other enclosure will work?
Also, the odds of finding another "exact" same of the original generic enclosure is less than finding Ezios in haystacks.
Edit: if it matters, this is the latest version of the system from nvidia, then rooted.
TIA

Decrease USB Mount Time

Guys.
I have a nexus 7 that i'm utilising in a car build.
It's running CM10.1 which I believe is based on 4.2.2, and Timurs custom Kernel.
I have a 175gb SSD dive, hooked up to a USB hub and OTG cable.
The SSD is recognised and mounts correctly on the Nexus.
I'm looking to speed up the mount process.
When I connect the SSD, the led activity light on the SSD will start to blink rapidly, any media on the drive is inaccessible until the drive activity has ceased.
This process takes around 30 seconds.
I've placed a number of .nomedia files inside the USBDISK folder amd SDCARD folder, but still mounting takes time.
Is there a way to speed up the mounting process.
Maybe moving the media folders inside a single folder, or some sort of file (like .nomedia) inside the folder structure to tell Android to not perform a file check.
Maybe a cache system.
The kernel is configured to have the drive in read only mode, so unless I manually add any files, then I have no need to scan for any file changes.
The drive could be in the car for months before I add any new media to it.
I guess no one else has experienced this, or I posted in the wrong forum, but i think i figured it out.
Just incase someone else has the same problem in the future, and in the vain hope that they stumble across this thread, I think it's only fair that I post my findings.
My SSD drive is formatted exFat for compatibilty between my PC, Tablet and S7 phone which is on Marshmallow.
I have 2 hard drives, I have a 2.5" SSD and a standard 2.5" Sata drive.
So something to experiment with.
Formatting the standard hard drive as NTFS and then copying a small number of my files on to it, i noticed that the mount time was instant, with hardly any drive activity.
All files are accessable.
It makes little sense, considering a standard mechanical drive is supposedly slower than SSD.
I then formatted it exFat, and copied roughly the same number of files, but now the mount time was about 5 seconds, with the drive light activity issue.
My SSD drive is taking 30-40 seconds to mount, which is annoying to say the least.
I reformatted my SSD as NTFS, copied my files back on to it, and the mount time is still almost instantaneous.
So it looks like whatever is causing the extended mount time is asscociated with exFat.
I've no idea why, so if anyone can explain, i'll be happy to learn.

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