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16Gb is faster then 8Gb???

Hi guys,
I'm giving my daughter my iPad Gen.1 and grabbing a Nexus 7 but just saw a report at Anandtech showing the nexus 16 considerably date then the 8gb version...
Kind of puzzled why this would be, can anyone shine a little light on why this is?
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It's mentioned right in the article. The 16gb uses a faster eMMC controller. Also, this specifically affects read/write performance, not other types of performance.

AZImmortal said:
It's mentioned right in the article. The 16gb uses a faster eMMC controller. Also, this specifically affects read/write performance, not other types of performance.
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Thanks for the reply AZim,
so overall we wouldn't see or feel the difference between the two? I do understand it was mentioned in the article but I'd rather hear it from you the everyday users, especially if you had the opportunity to compare then side by side... Financially I'd rather go for the 8gb version but if there is a big advantage going for the 16 other then memory space then I'd hold off until I could swing it..
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I only have the 16gb, so I can't really compare them side by side, but even though I said that it only affects read/write performance, it could in theory have a cascading effect in slowing things down. For example, if you're playing an intensive game, it could take longer to load things like textures, which might require the game to slow everything else down while texture loading catches up. In practice though, it seems unlikely that you'd really notice since it even mentions in the article that the 8gb's performance is still very good, just not as good as the 16gb.

I totally agree but sering how high ranked (#1) the 16gb is listed and if the 8gb was ranked #2 I wouldn't have asked but it drops 4-5 spots which made me wonder...
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Think I'm going for the 16, put my iPad on Ebay and first hit I'm going to Staples and grabbing one of the 2 they have in stock
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Captpt said:
Think I'm going for the 16, put my iPad on Ebay and first hit I'm going to Staples and grabbing one of the 2 they have in stock
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Deff go for the 16gb. For 50 more dollars you will get double the memory, and all that memory will go a long way.
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Captpt said:
Think I'm going for the 16, put my iPad on Ebay and first hit I'm going to Staples and grabbing one of the 2 they have in stock
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Go for the 16 no doubt. The 8gb has only about 5.3gb of storage to actually use.
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Thanks guys I will, no hits on my iPad yet but only on 24 hours with 4 days to go.
Very jealous seeing you two posting from your Nexus 7s lol
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Its basically a ssd in your tablet/phone anyways, so i assume same rule applies.

Well bids started rolling in so off to Staples I went and all Nexus 7s were sold out and they had no idea when more will be arriving. They wanted me to pre order but with Sam's next door I figured it was worth a shot and they delivered, got me a new nexus 7 16gb and having some fun, Swype was my first install lol... funny this feels like a really big Galaxy S2
Now the big question: TO ROOT OR NOT TO ROOT
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Whether or not you decide to root, definitely unlock the bootloader first because if you unlock it, you'll have to wipe the device.

AZImmortal said:
Whether or not you decide to root, definitely unlock the bootloader first because if you unlock it, you'll have to wipe the device.
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agreed, and the only reason you would ever have to lock it again would be to either give it away locked or to return it to google so you'd never have to wipe it

Root and unlock and don't look back. You won't regret it

In regret going 8GB, but hey ho I have stickmount.
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Thanks guys, I might have to root now seeing landscape mode is so limited which really surprises me,
I'm guessing the Roms available allow full rotation??
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Its just the stock launcher doesn't like landscape. Install Apex or another launcher and enjoy landscape.
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player911 said:
Its just the stock launcher doesn't like landscape. Install Apex or another launcher and enjoy landscape.
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Thank you, didn't realize that... been running Go Launch on my SHOstock ROMed GS2 so I'll give that a shot 1st...
Update: tried go and apex and didn't like either with my N7(like the spacing JB's stock launcher uses better)..
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What version are you getting 16 or 32gb?

What version so you plan on getting the 16gb for $200 or the 32gb for $250?
I'm thinking about getting the 32 for myself. What are your thoughts.
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Mark930 said:
What version so you plan on getting the 16gb for $200 or the 32gb for $250?
I'm thinking about getting the 32 for myself. What are your thoughts.
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16gb is fine for me.

My 16gb is arriving tomorrow and when my 8.9 32gb arrives on Nov 20th I will sell the 7.
The resell value for Kindle fire has been good. I sold my original Kindle fire after 7 months of use and only lost $50.

16's fine for me. I'm reluctant to order now, though, because I want to wait on wonderful devs to get Play Store and Jellybean onto this thing... then it will be golden

Encerspay said:
16's fine for me. I'm reluctant to order now, though, because I want to wait on wonderful devs to get Play Store and Jellybean onto this thing... then it will be golden
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So you saying the play store wont come out the box?
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I ordered the 16gb version and it arrives on Friday, Sep 14. For my own purposes, 16gb should be more than enough for local storage with the rest of the content simply being streamed or saved in the cloud.

Ill probably go for the 32 but only if it can be rooted/unlocked/custom rom. My personal opinion, but I find the amazon stock is absolutely hideous. Ill wait like I did with my og fire until its confirmed either way.

32gb
I think 32 gb is accurate

shook187 said:
So you saying the play store wont come out the box?
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Nope, the Kindles run a custom UI atop of Android & only have access to the Amazon Marketplace or whatever it is called
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About the nexus 4?

Would it be smarter for me to order the nexus 4 or just get the s4? Can any of you give me some of your input on the nexus 4 since you've had yours? Are you pleased with it or do you sometimes regret your decision on getting the nexus 4? One more thing, right now I have the s3 and is no 4g really that much of a dealbreker?

Do a search as this question has been asked quite a few times....but in a nutshell if you prefer vanilla over bloatware, great dev support and the latest updates as soon they are released then get a nexus....can't really speak on the s4. Hope it helps..
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Elstevo001 said:
Would it be smarter for me to order the nexus 4 or just get the s4? Can any of you give me some of your input on the nexus 4 since you've had yours? Are you pleased with it or do you sometimes regret your decision on getting the nexus 4? One more thing, right now I have the s3 and is no 4g really that much of a dealbreker?
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Dude the S4 is so crippled and packed with 7GB of OS and mostly bloatware that you have too root it and strip down all the not needed apps and widgets. I had all the Galaxy devices but i`am gona skip the S4. The Nexus 4 is realy a breath of fresh air and 50% cheaper. I had the S3 too but wouldnt trade my N4 for one.

gee2012 said:
Dude the S4 is so crippled and packed with 7GB of OS and mostly bloatware that you have too root it and strip down all the not needed apps and widgets. I had all the Galaxy devices but i`am gona skip the S4. The Nexus 4 is realy a breath of fresh air and 50% cheaper.
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Thanks for the response. If I was to get the 8 gb nexus 4,how much of that is formatted before I get it. How about the 16 gb?

Elstevo001 said:
Thanks for the response. If I was to get the 8 gb nexus 4,how much of that is formatted before I get it. How about the 16 gb?
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I have the 16Gb for a few dollars more, 8 GB is a bit to small for me personaly. About 3 GB is for the OS so 12,8 GB remains for the user. On the 8GB one you have 4,8 GB left.
You don`t have to say thanks, just press the thanks button if someone helped you

Don't order yet.....wait until I/o on may 15 , you may see new phone or nexus 4 upgrade..

htnawsaj said:
Don't order yet.....wait until I/o on may 15 , you may see new phone or nexus 4 upgrade..
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And 5-6 months later the N5 will be launched

gee2012 said:
And 5-6 months later the N5 will be launched
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Waiting 10 days is not same as 5 to 6 months....

We don't know for sure, we pretty sure the nexus will already get lte support
Its definitely worth waiting

If development is your thing. You found the right place.
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gee2012 said:
I have the 16Gb for a few dollars more, 8 GB is a bit to small for me personaly. About 3 GB is for the OS so 12,8 GB remains for the user. On the 8GB one you have 4,8 GB left.
You don`t have to say thanks, just press the thanks button if someone helped you
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The 8gb model has 5.8gb free space.
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I have an s3 currently and am buying a nexus 4 tomorrow. All the bloat on the s3 is leading me to buy a stock Android experience. Nexus 4 ftw.

bob13bob said:
We don't know for sure, we pretty sure the nexus will already get lte support
Its definitely worth waiting
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N4 already has lte support with the 33 radio and below.
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zephiK said:
N4 already has lte support with the 33 radio and below.
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Just with T-Mobile
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Dsmforlife92 said:
Just with T-Mobile
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No. 4G LTE works fine in Canada as well.
Proof: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130267

$600 vs $300
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Ok. No update to the N4, I just went from the n4 to the ONE. it's not worth the $300 difference.
Tapatalk and some apps other is actually slower. The screen is nicer but the camera might actually be worse. It camera is soft under certain conditions and very poor lens flaring.
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[Q] worth picking up?

I tried to get one for months when it was new, settled for a gs4 since getting a 4 at the time was near impossble. I'm not sure if the 5 will be as bad. My question is, should I wait for the 5 or should I buy a local one from CL for $200? Its a 16gb model...not sure if $200 is too much.
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$200 is a good price, how many other phones out there that have the same spec as the Nexus 4 that you can buy for $250 new unlocked? Switching to the N4 is a downgrade or sideway at best, because you get worse camera and no microSD storage. The positive is come in if you are some one who flash alot of custom roms or want to run latest Android version at all time.
Your S4 is a good phone, just wait till the Nexus 5 become available, if you're happy with the S4 and can install KitKat on it, you might not need to get the Nexus 5 at all.

nash2000 said:
I tried to get one for months when it was new, settled for a gs4 since getting a 4 at the time was near impossble. I'm not sure if the 5 will be as bad. My question is, should I wait for the 5 or should I buy a local one from CL for $200? Its a 16gb model...not sure if $200 is too much.
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The five is out now, but tbh this phone is great and will do everything you need and more
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eksasol said:
$200 is a good price, how many other phones out there that have the same spec as the Nexus 4 that you can buy for $250 new unlocked? Switching to the N4 is a downgrade or sideway at best, because you get worse camera and no microSD storage. The positive is come in if you are some one who flash alot of custom roms or want to run latest Android version at all time.
Your S4 is a good phone, just wait till the Nexus 5 become available, if you're happy with the S4 and can install KitKat on it, you might not need to get the Nexus 5 at all.
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Thanks for the advice. The main reason is because of my locked boot loader. The S4 is fine besides that.
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LG G Pad 8.3 being Discontinued at BestBuy

So I finally made a decision on which tablet that I want but when I called BestBuy to see if they have any in stock I was told that they do have some but it was a limited stock......and.... that they are being discontinued so they will not be getting any more in...
This sucks.... Now I am back on the hunt of which tablet to get.
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Coldheat1906 said:
So I finally made a decision on which tablet that I want but when I called BestBuy to see if they have any in stock I was told that they do have some but it was a limited stock......and.... that they are being discontinued so they will not be getting any more in...
This sucks.... Now I am back on the hunt of which tablet to get.
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But if they have it in stock...why don't you buy it?
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cubsf4n said:
But if they have it in stock...why don't you buy it?
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Good question...
I found it on sale for $229.99 and BestBuy will match it.... I've just been a little skeptical about getting a product that is at its EOL.
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Coldheat1906 said:
Good question...
I found it on sale for $229.99 and BestBuy will match it.... I've just been a little skeptical about getting a product that is at its EOL.
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4.4.2 is available for it and that is probably as far as most 2013 tablets will get. If your really worried about out dated, buy a nexus.
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cubsf4n said:
4.4.2 is available for it and that is probably as far as most 2013 tablets will get. If your really worried about out dated, buy a nexus.
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Was about to get the Nexus but the sdcard is a big thing for me.
Maybe I'm just jumping to conclusions and should just try the G Pad.
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Coldheat1906 said:
Was about to get the Nexus but the sdcard is a big thing for me.
Maybe I'm just jumping to conclusions and should just try the G Pad.
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The sd card is useless in kit Kat ..you are not allowed to write to external storage such as sd cards in kit Kat 4.4.2 So you should buy a tablet with 32gb or 64gb of internal storage without option for external storage. But LG G Pad 8.3 is also good tablet.
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getmealive said:
The sd card is useless in kit Kat ..you are not allowed to write to external storage such as sd cards in kit Kat 4.4.2 So you should buy a tablet with 32gb or 64gb of internal storage without option for external storage. But LG G Pad 8.3 is also good tablet.
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That is incorrect. Just install KitKat External SD Card Patch to fix it.

Subtleone said:
That is incorrect. Just install KitKat External SD Card Patch to fix it.
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Sorry, but I mean without root, you can't write to external storage card in kit Kat. And I am not looking to root my G Pad, because many people are reporting issues after their G Pads are rooted.
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getmealive said:
Sorry, but I mean without root, you can't write to external storage card in kit Kat. And I am not looking to root my G Pad, because many people are reporting issues after their G Pads are rooted.
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Issues? Why would rooting the tablet cause any issues of any kind?

Subtleone said:
Issues? Why would rooting the tablet cause any issues of any kind?
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G Pad may not accepts future firmware updates from LG if you have currently root on your G Pad. That's why I am afraid to root my device.
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Issues? Why would rooting the tablet cause any issues of any kind?
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Some of the apps I use will not function on rooted tablets. There's ways around that but it's not worth the hassle sometimes.
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getmealive said:
G Pad may not accepts future firmware updates from LG if you have currently root on your G Pad. That's why I am afraid to root my device.
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You do realize that there has only been one firmware update in its history? Furthermore, even if there is one, you can be certain a version with root and recovery will appear here in 24 hours that can be flashed. I am running stock and use a flashable version.

I received the kitkat update yesterday. After reading about the sd card issue, I tried saving a pic to my 64g sd card and had no problems. I even deleted a pic from the card. This is a nice tablet snd I hsve had several android tablets. Go buy and enjoy. ?
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Why would anyone be hesitant to root if you are posting on XDA? Seriously, it's like showing up for a swim meet and being afraid of water......just sayin'. Seriously, just grab the tablet. It's solid!

GadjetGirl59 said:
I received the kitkat update yesterday. After reading about the sd card issue, I tried saving a pic to my 64g sd card and had no problems. I even deleted a pic from the card. This is a nice tablet snd I hsve had several android tablets. Go buy and enjoy. ?
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That's good to hear that you can save to the SD still.

atlharp said:
Why would anyone be hesitant to root if you are posting on XDA? Seriously, it's like showing up for a swim meet and being afraid of water......just sayin'. Seriously, just grab the tablet. It's solid!
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I do not root, really afraid of screwing up,BUT I love to read comments because I get so much good information from all you guys. Especially about what my tablets can and can not do.
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I did it!!
Okay well I went ahead and pulled the trigger!!!!
For the price I could not find a better tablet!!
I ended up getting it for $229.99 at BestBuy (They priced matched NewEggs sale)
That being said, I am really impressed with everything.... the screen is great (yes I did look at the Galaxy 8.4 Pro but dam the price) and it is really smooth!!!!
BTW..... I was going with the White but changed my mind and got the Black and love the color

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G Pad may not accepts future firmware updates from LG if you have currently root on your G Pad. That's why I am afraid to root my device.
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So, to summarize responses to your posts:
1. SD Cards on Kitkat will work with a simple fix.
2. Rooting does not "break things". It's really kind of the normal way to use an Android device.
3. As far as not being able to get OTA updates after rooting, that's somewhat correct, but the better way to update is not with OTA but with a prepared flashible file that comes with root.
4. Rooting is as easy as it can be. Very simple and more or less idiot-proof.

woody1 said:
So, to summarize responses to your posts:
1. SD Cards on Kitkat will work with a simple fix.
2. Rooting does not "break things". It's really kind of the normal way to use an Android device.
3. As far as not being able to get OTA updates after rooting, that's somewhat correct, but the better way to update is not with OTA but with a prepared flashible file that comes with root.
4. Rooting is as easy as it can be. Very simple and more or less idiot-proof.
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That is an accurate summary. I'll just add that for root+recovery the method that gave me no headaches was:
JB (4.2.2) - Dalingrin and then TWRP 2.6.3.2 (if you have JB, I strongly recommend doing this before going to KK, even if you plan to use stock)
KitKat (4.4.2) - IOroot 2.5 then TWRP 2.7 (a special build for KK)

Coldheat1906 said:
Okay well I went ahead and pulled the trigger!!!!
For the price I could not find a better tablet!!
I ended up getting it for $229.99 at BestBuy (They priced matched NewEggs sale)
That being said, I am really impressed with everything.... the screen is great (yes I did look at the Galaxy 8.4 Pro but dam the price) and it is really smooth!!!!
BTW..... I was going with the White but changed my mind and got the Black and love the color
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When did you buy it? All stores say out of stock, including Fort Worth aka your area.
Edit - I just picked one up locally for $230. I guess their website must be wrong lol.
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