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Can anyone please let me know, how to access the phone memory in Galaxy 3. There is My files folder in Applications which constitutes Memory Card. Do I need to root the phone to access phone memory?
vijay.gupta said:
Can anyone please let me know, how to access the phone memory in Galaxy 3. There is My files folder in Applications which constitutes Memory Card. Do I need to root the phone to access phone memory?
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yeps...!! basically that's d definition of rooting..!! ha ha...
Thanks Fido for the reply. Why is the phone memory inaccessible in android phones for normal users? Is there any specific reason for this?
It doesn't happens in other platforms such as Symbian, Blackberry etc.
they do d ryt thing.. Coz, if u r a newbie.. U may mess wid ur system... So it s a way to protect system files frm newbies..
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Just curious that if you have access to phone memory, what mess you can create?
You have access to phone memory freely in all the other platforms without rooting. Do you mean to say that the creators of those platforms are not doing right thing?
Android doesn't use the phone memory to save things, only for system stuff and installed apps. You cannot put music on your phone memory for example.
How to access your phone memory? You don't have to be rooted to view, only to change... You can just use bluetooth file manager or astro file manager to view (and copy). But you have to use another program to change things...
vijay.gupta said:
Just curious that if you have access to phone memory, what mess you can create?
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If you can access it, any application you install and run can access it without any limitation. This is good, if you know what you are doing, but it can be very harmful if you are not careful.
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You can just use bluetooth file manager or astro file manager to view (and copy). But you have to use another program to change things...
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There is no way you can access the phone memory without rooting. Rooting is "the program" that changes things.
Thanks all,
I have mtorrent insalled on my phone. when i go to the option to add torrent, it shows me the directories that are not visible when I go to My Files folder. I have not rooted my phone. Are these directories the phone memory directories?
How can I determine if they are directories for accessing phone memory?
Shall I give out the name for the few?
One thing more: I am not getting e-mail notifications only for this thread even though I am subscribed to this thread whereas I am getting for all others. What may be the problem for this?
vijay.gupta said:
I have mtorrent insalled on my phone. when i go to the option to add torrent, it shows me the directories that are not visible when I go to My Files folder. I have not rooted my phone. Are these directories the phone memory directories?
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Which directories are those? On the memory card there are hidden files and folders whose name starts with a dot (.). The My Files app won't list these by default, but in the Settings menu you can enable it, and it is possible that in mtorrent this is the default setting.
The name of the directories are:
.info
cache
config
data
dev
efs
etc
lib
proc
res
sbin
sdcard - This is my SD Card folder that shows the contents of my memory card
sqlite_stmt_journals
sys
system
tmp
d
default.prop
fota.rc
init
init.apollo.rc
init.apollo.sh
init.rc
recovery.rc
system.prop
This is the root directory. Can you copy or create files here?
what do you mean by root directory? are you referring to this phone memory by this term...no, i can only access them...dont create or copy any file here..
vijay.gupta said:
what do you mean by root directory?
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This is the root of the entire file system, without rooting you can't modify its contents (except the /mnt/sdcard folder and subfolders ofcourse).
So just confirming that without rooting the phone, one can access the phone memory but cannot modify its contents. Am i correct?
yes, that's correct
so, why i am able to access this directory (phone memory) only from some apps and not from all the apps?
Also, is there any other way that I can access (not modify anything) phone memory if my phone is not rooted?
Also, if anyone has rooted his phone, what may be the purpose that is solved? As far as I know, such users can install some apps that need root access for the phone?
I mean to say, what may be the reason for which the user may want modify permission to phone memory apart from installing apps that require root access?
Use astro , u can access ur phone memory even if unrooted (atleast see those foldres )
Thanks only4omkar. I am able to do that already using ttorrent app. But my query is different...can anyone please respond to that?
vijay.gupta said:
Can anyone please let me know, how to access the phone memory in Galaxy 3. There is My files folder in Applications which constitutes Memory Card. Do I need to root the phone to access phone memory?
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Wen u install applicATIONS, it gets installed in teh internal memory by default
I have a confusion regarding android. this is very general query.
In Computer, first we have to have exe file to install anything and then we click on it to install the app on windows computer generally. when the app is installed on computer, we have installed app files in program files and then a dump (that is exe file) which we keep to install this app on any other computer.
Now, please let me know if this is applicable in android phones also?
I know that in android, there is .apk file instead of .exe file in computer. I observed that after installation apk file disappears. Is this true?
Not sure if in understood well, did you mean if instal anything from SD card? If you are asking that the answer is yes, i install everything from SD card and the apk file stay there after installation.
What if u install any app from Market?
vijay.gupta said:
I have a confusion regarding android. this is very general query.
In Computer, first we have to have exe file to install anything and then we click on it to install the app on windows computer generally. when the app is installed on computer, we have installed app files in program files and then a dump (that is exe file) which we keep to install this app on any other computer.
Now, please let me know if this is applicable in android phones also?
I know that in android, there is .apk file instead of .exe file in computer. I observed that after installation apk file disappears. Is this true?
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Even in Android you can see the .apk files under /system/app. Also applications installed by you can be backed up & later restored using software available on market.
"Normally" these apks dissapear when you download from.market, but all of.your apks are stored in your phone, the thing is that you have to hav permission to do that, when you download an apk (the single file) and store it in sd card to install it, the apk is copied to the phone.
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But if u back up ur apps as .apk and install them later using softwares (with exception of Titanium backup) u will loose connection between the app and android market (that means no updates)
the best option is to backup ur apps with titanium backup along with user data and restore it using the same
how do i access /system/app? Do I need to root the phone in order to see this directory?
vijay.gupta said:
how do i access /system/app? Do I need to root the phone in order to see this directory?
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Download Terminal emulator from market & you are ready to go to /system/app !!!!
You can also download Root Explorer and so the same
Thank all. Can you please confirm what I am writing below:
Suppose I buy a android phone (with android 2.1 so you cannot install apps from SD card) in which I installed an application named XYZ from Market. Now, there is a apk file for XYZ which gets downloaded somewhere in the phone memory and then it gets installed automatically.
Now, I just want to know, where does this apk file go after XYZ is installed? Does it stay in phone memory with the installed files of XYZ.
If it goes to phone memory and not deleted from there, then phone memory
if u install .apk from market it will be stored and installed in /data/app in phone memory. i do not think it is stored twice in the phone.
Do u mean to say that only the installed file gets stored and. apk. File got deleted automatically after getting installed?
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Do u mean to say that only the installed file gets stored and. apk. File got deleted automatically after getting installed?
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Remember that an .apk file its a variant of the .jar files when you install an .apk this file gets stored inside the phone along with its necesary dependencies when the app starts, the os reads this file line by line while the app is executed.
In short terms the .apk file its the application itself that need a proper interpreter to run, in that way when you install and app to the phone, it copies this file and links the dependencies, so the .apks downloaded from makret are stored directly inside the app folder, in that way you can extract them from this folder and use it in another android phone.
You are relying too much on the windows ways of things. You see an exe file installion in windows essentially unpacking everything (other things aside) where it is needed and you then often see a bunch of files and folders. This is not what happens in android, the apk file is conserved when installed and can be found in the root part of your phone. Its data/app/ if installed on your phone, mnt/asec. (or something like asec) if installed on your sd card. You can copy that file to your sd card or send it to another device and install it again. I did just that today (I sent an apk to a friend)
anyway i dont think its same if i delete .apk + odex files from /data/app as i uninstall it with titanium backup. i think TB will be delete also data stored by the app inside the database (its the place where the apps are saving data, settings, etc...)
In case you are installing from Android Market:
1. When you are at market, it doesn't ask you to download. You will only get option either to install or update the existing app.
2. If you are a normal user, after installing, you won't be able to see the apk file anywhere on your memory card. But if you are a root user or with the help of special file managers and specific apps like root explorer and terminal emulators, you can locate those spk files in the phone's hidden memory.
3. If you are a root user, or with the help above mentioned type of apps, you can locate the apk files in phone memory and copy it on your memory card and distribute it to your wish.
4. If you are worried for paid apps and losing your phone or apps because of resetting or any other reason then stop worrying. A record of your paid apps is stored in google servers. So, even if you reset your phone or lose your phone, once you log in to a your new android device with the same google account, it will automatically show your paid apps. You don't have to pay for it again. Just need to install it again. This is applicable only if you are paying for the app through android market and you are logging into your android device with the same google account you had before losing your apps.
In case of installing via your SD card:
1. apk files are just like java files (.jad or .jar). You can download it on your PC from various sources and transfer it to your SD card or any of your friends' via USB, bluetooth or any other way.
2. After transfering the apk file to your SD card, it doesn't get automatically installed. You have to click it or open it to install, just like how we double click the exe file in windows.
3. Whether installed or not installed, the apk file you transfer to your SD card will always remain there unless and untill you or someone else delete it or you format your memory card.
4. Once installed, a copy of the same apk file would also be there in your phone's hidden memory, which you can access using special apps.
If you worried about losing your apps, try searching for other apps which backups apk... you can do so at android market. Moreover, also search on the net about having root access on your android device.. it'll let you access files in your phone's memory.
I hope, this would solve down all your queries !!!
Thanks next2 devil. Very gud explanation. It cleared almost all confusions. I have some more confusions that i want to clear out.
1) just a general query that just like exe file got unpacked after double clicking on it and install its files in c: genrally, does the same happen with apk, jad and jar files?
2) just want to clear out that phone memory which is hidden for normal users contains the copy of only those apk files that are currently installed on the phone and not the ones that are uninstalled or not installed at all?
vijay.gupta said:
Thanks next2 devil. Very gud explanation. It cleared almost all confusions. I have some more confusions that i want to clear out.
1) just a general query that just like exe file got unpacked after double clicking on it and install its files in c: genrally, does the same happen with apk, jad and jar files?
2) just want to clear out that phone memory which is hidden for normal users contains the copy of only those apk files that are currently installed on the phone and not the ones that are uninstalled or not installed at all?
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1. I am not sure about JAD and JAR files, but yes, APK files unpack itself to get installed. You can come to know the exact size/space that would be taken by the app directly from the android market. Details would be given there.
2. Yes, the phone memory would be having copy of files only which is installed. There would be no copy of any apk file which in not installed.
Thanks next2devil. Your response give rise to one more query.
if i compare unpacking logic from windows, there is no need for original exe file to remain in existence after it has been installed and user can delete exe file after installing it. Deleting exe file has no negative impact on the working of installed app. Please let me know if this is also the case with apk files? If yes, then what is the need of apk file to remain in phone memory after it has been installed?
vijay.gupta said:
Thanks next2devil. Your response give rise to one more query.
if i compare unpacking logic from windows, there is no need for original exe file to remain in existence after it has been installed and user can delete exe file after installing it. Deleting exe file has no negative impact on the working of installed app. Please let me know if this is also the case with apk files? If yes, then what is the need of apk file to remain in phone memory after it has been installed?
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Short and simple. Deleting the apk file from /data/app removes the app.
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I'm fairly new to android, and rooting and custom roms and all that i have an a500 with the minimalistic 3.2 rom, and but this has happened with any other custom roms or stock firmwares aswell (all rooted)..
Anyway, ill use this as an example, one time, and I was trying to install the samsung Ebook.apk and it required a separate sytem app, and everyone said move this other app (my files. Apk.) to system / apps and change permissions, I've tried with several file managers and it always says that it is read only,
This happens when trying to move files to other system folders... Isn't rooting supposed to give me access to these and let me edit files or put files there ect
I'm probably just stupid, but but any help would be appreciated
ddpruel said:
I'm fairly new to android, and rooting and custom roms and all that i have an a500 with the minimalistic 3.2 rom, and but this has happened with any other custom roms or stock firmwares aswell (all rooted)..
Anyway, ill use this as an example, one time, and I was trying to install the samsung Ebook.apk and it required a separate sytem app, and everyone said move this other app (my files. Apk.) to system / apps and change permissions, I've tried with several file managers and it always says that it is read only,
This happens when trying to move files to other system folders... Isn't rooting supposed to give me access to these and let me edit files or put files there ect
I'm probably just stupid, but but any help would be appreciated
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Can you just push the files with ADB and edit the permissions?
I could not get ES File Explorer to gain root permissions with the Minimalist Rom, but the ADB method worked for me (installing Polaris Office).
I've heard a lot about adb but have never used it.. Ill look it up and see if I can set it up... thanks
use root explorer. Great file manager and gives youba button to mount the filesystem r/w
ddpruel said:
I'm fairly new to android, and rooting and custom roms and all that i have an a500 with the minimalistic 3.2 rom, and but this has happened with any other custom roms or stock firmwares aswell (all rooted)..
Anyway, ill use this as an example, one time, and I was trying to install the samsung Ebook.apk and it required a separate sytem app, and everyone said move this other app (my files. Apk.) to system / apps and change permissions, I've tried with several file managers and it always says that it is read only,
This happens when trying to move files to other system folders... Isn't rooting supposed to give me access to these and let me edit files or put files there ect
I'm probably just stupid, but but any help would be appreciated
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You need to remount the relevant folders as read/write. Most file explorers can do it. Most people swear by Root Explorer, but that's pay software. I use ES File Manager, which is free.
Thanks a lot but but how do i change permissions with root explorer? I (i am supposed i change them to 644)
ddpruel said:
Thanks a lot but but how do i change permissions with root explorer? I (i am supposed i change them to 644)
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I could not get ES File Explorer to gain permissions with this rom.
hey guys i have a question, i've been trying to access /data/data/ and one of my game folders but with android comander that folder is not vissible or empty , but i can access system folders like "/system/media//audio/ui/ so root seems to work but not for the /data/data/ folder ?
root browser and solid explorer if i copy files from /data/data/ to sd card and then to pc the files seems to be empty,
my device is rooted with latest audax methode MM 6.0.1 Audax " [ROM][KERNEL][MM][G928C/F/G/I/T][BPC3][6.0.1]AUDAX PLUS M v3.0[05/04/16] "
samsung galaxy s6 edge+ SM-G928F
can anyone help me out abit ?
thx
Wesley_NL said:
hey guys i have a question, ive been trying to access /data/data/ and one of my game folders but with android comander that folder is not vissible or empty , but i can axxess system folders like "/system/media//audio/ui/ so root seems to work but not for the /data/data/ folder ?
root browser and solid explorer if i copy files from there to sd card and then to pc they seems to be empty,
my device is rooted with latest audax methode MM 6.0.1 Audax " [ROM][KERNEL][MM][G928C/F/G/I/T][BPC3][6.0.1]AUDAX PLUS M v3.0[05/04/16] "
samsung galaxy s6 edge+ SM-G928F
can anyone help me out abit ?
thx
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If you are rooted, use Root Explorer from the playstore.
I have used it for over 5 years and I have no problem opening and seeing all the files and folders on my s6 edge plus phone.
Good luck,
Have a great day.
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Misterjunky said:
If you are rooted, use Root Explorer from the playstore.
I have used it for over 5 years and I have no problem opening and seeing all the files and folders on my s6 edge plus phone.
Good luck,
Have a great day.
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root explorer see everything even in the /data/data/ but when i copy files from there they seems the be empty, as in file without data, i tried to share it to and upload it directly to dropbox but even that don't work
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as far as i know i closed/killed the game, i even rebooted my phone but nothing changes
Wesley_NL said:
root explorer see everything even in the /data/data/ but when i copy files from there they seems the be empty, as in file without data, i tried to share it to and upload it directly to dropbox but even that don't work
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as far as i know i closed/killed the game, i even rebooted my phone but nothing changes
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You cannot upload the file from it's current location, copy the file into your internal SD card first.
If that don't work then make sure to check the attributes of the file is set to R/W READ & WRITE.
Also check your file manager's permission & attribute settings, it should be set to allow read & write.
Good luck, have a great day
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Misterjunky said:
You cannot upload the file from it's current location, copy the file into your internal SD card first.
If that don't work then make sure to check the attributes of the file is set to R/W READ & WRITE.
Also check your file manager's permission & attribute settings, it should be set to allow read & write.
Good luck, have a great day
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i know this. but its r/w so it should work but it don't work fine,
but in the past i had it to that root browser don't copy the files completley (for example my account files) from sd card to /data/data/jp.gungho.padEN/files so some one said to use solid explorer and that worked but now it is the other way arround, it copy fine to /data/data/jp.gungho.padEN/files but not from there to sd card, it copy the files but i can not open them in a bin editor
Don't know why people are so happy with Root Explorer it's very nice but lacks a lot of features.
I've done these thing with Total commander without problems. Try that one.
ps blind me missed the part about Dropbox. Did you try to put it in (by example) your downloads folder and upload from there? Goodluck anyway!
Hi all,
I would like to be able to delete or copy a file from my phone to my sd card. Since KitKat, we need to root the cellphone in order to be able to do so. Today, the constructor has deployed Android N on its phone. Should I wait for a rom comes out so I can root my phone and still have Android nougat on it?
Thanks for your help.
You don't need root to write to sd in Marshmallow. Depending on the file manager, you only need to grant permission to have full access to sd.
yep. you just need to give permission no need to be root.
if you want to root the thing take a look at the genesis kernel thread in the proper section.
or use rootkernel (search) to make a patched kernel. there are a couple of things you need to read up on first if you are not familiar with sony phones ie. what unlocking the bootloader does and how to avoid it/be able to return fully to stock by backup of the TA partition. (dirtycow thread).
but as said if the problem is just writing to the sd card read up on granting permission to the sd card (since LP) you do not need to be root to be able to do that.
Hi
Thanks for your prompt reply
I have nougat... Which app should I then download and how can I give the permission?
Currently I have set up FX folder...
Thanks
francisci said:
Hi
Thanks for your prompt reply
I have nougat... Which app should I then download and how can I give the permission?
Currently I have set up FX folder...
Thanks
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i would recommend total commander (old habits die hard) its a simple good file commander imho.
when you launch it select the big plus sign 'user-defined location', it will open the external sdcard in the builtin nougat file selector to give permission. select the root of the sdcard or if you only want to give access to a folder you can do that. it will create a new shortcut to your sdcard in total commander and you should be able to transfer files back and forth.
I am not really familiar with other file managers, but it should be possible with just about every one that is popular/updated.
Realtuxen> Nice one!! Tx!
Any idea if we can do it also for mx player? Vlc or any other media player app?
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