the hard polycarbonate plastic cases - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am trying to find someone that has used the KaysCase Slim Hard Shell Cover Case for any phone to find out if it is going to offer much cusion if the phone is droped?
http://www.amazon.com/KaysCase-Shell-Cover-Google-Nexus/dp/B009ZNBGO2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353476452&sr=8-1&keywords=clear+KaysCase+nexus+4

donec said:
I am trying to find someone that has used the KaysCase Slim Hard Shell Cover Case for any phone to find out if it is going to offer much cusion if the phone is droped?
http://www.amazon.com/KaysCase-Shell-Cover-Google-Nexus/dp/B009ZNBGO2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353476452&sr=8-1&keywords=clear+KaysCase+nexus+4
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I've had some experience with the S3 version and it had some issues with cracking and poor alignment to mic holes. Their customer service is good, but I'd look at something else if you're looking at drop protection. These thin types of cases are meant to prevent damage from light shock and scratching.

donec said:
I am trying to find someone that has used the KaysCase Slim Hard Shell Cover Case for any phone to find out if it is going to offer much cusion if the phone is droped?
http://www.amazon.com/KaysCase-Shel...476452&sr=8-1&keywords=clear+KaysCase+nexus+4
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It doesn't make much sense to use a hard case. In my experience the ones I've used split apart on hard enough contact while ejecting my phone as well. I recommend tpu cases
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regaurding the crevice around the screen

chances are i wont do this. i wish i could have tried this on my damaged (had to pay insurance for new one) before i sent it back, but what if you got like some clear silicone or something, and put just enough around the crevice around the edge of the screen to fill that crevice/gap in smooth, so dust wouldnt get caught in there? if you're neat and careful, i think it could come out good, and in the event of a warranty exchange, i dont think they'd even notice it.
just an idea, like i said, i probably will NOT do it lol. may ill try it on an old phone that has a similar style crevice.
ufvj217 said:
chances are i wont do this. i wish i could have tried this on my damaged (had to pay insurance for new one) before i sent it back, but what if you got like some clear silicone or something, and put just enough around the crevice around the edge of the screen to fill that crevice/gap in smooth, so dust wouldnt get caught in there? if you're neat and careful, i think it could come out good, and in the event of a warranty exchange, i dont think they'd even notice it.
just an idea, like i said, i probably will NOT do it lol. may ill try it on an old phone that has a similar style crevice.
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Are you being serious haha? Who just happens to have clear silicon just lying around? Do you honestly think Verizon wouldn't notice such an obvious modification to the hardware of the phone? I for one will definitely pass and would not recommend anyone trying it LOL.
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lol since clear silicon is a scarce resource? it can be had at home depot for a few dollars lmao..
i said it was just an idea, and honestly i dont think they'd see it. im not talking about gobbing it on there.....would hardly be any at all. just a hair line to fill inside that gap to keep dust from falling inside it.
Do you really have an issue with getting dust in the crevice? It's not that huge of a gap and mine has remained clean with me doing much, and I work in a manufacturing facility with plenty of dust. Just saying, not sure how you are getting that much dust there in the first place for it to make that much of a difference.
gtcakes said:
Do you really have an issue with getting dust in the crevice? It's not that huge of a gap and mine has remained clean with me doing much, and I work in a manufacturing facility with plenty of dust. Just saying, not sure how you are getting that much dust there in the first place for it to make that much of a difference.
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not bad, but little pieces of dust get in there from my pockets, wood dust when working in the garage, etc.
the only place I've noticed stuff getting stuck is right below the speaker
I have an original phone delivered when they first came out... no dust problem with my phone and I pocket it all the time.
If you put a Seidio case that's 3 layers thick and a screen protector on the thing I highly doubt you'd even notice the crevice ever again.
I would do it if I wasn't lazy.
You could get this vinyl cover in black and you won't even be able to notice its there, but it does cover the edge of the screen to prevent dust.
http://www.grfxpstore.com/store/product/885036574
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aggDELfhPag
gtcakes said:
Do you really have an issue with getting dust in the crevice? It's not that huge of a gap and mine has remained clean with me doing much, and I work in a manufacturing facility with plenty of dust. Just saying, not sure how you are getting that much dust there in the first place for it to make that much of a difference.
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Same here! Metal dust everywhere and I plug speakers in and use Pandora all day! Ill pass on the clear, warranty voiding silicone lolz
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ksidirt said:
I would do it if I wasn't lazy.
You could get this vinyl cover in black and you won't even be able to notice its there, but it does cover the edge of the screen to prevent dust.
http://www.grfxpstore.com/store/product/885036574
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aggDELfhPag
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You're loving that grafixpressions site huh??
Hypcrsy said:
You're loving that grafixpressions site huh??
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Yeah, but the only things I bought didn't relate to my droid at all haha.
I understand exactly what you are saying with a hairline application but I can assure you they will notice the silicone and there is no telling what kind of damage it would do when some of the silicone leaks through to the screen. im guessing thats where it is, i have an otterbox commuter and it covers everything up. just invest in an otterbox commuter and if you don't care for a lot of bulk and some problems and you're really hard on your phone get the defender series.
I feel the gap around the screen is something the designers of the phone should have left out but no need to fill it in. The cases I've been using prevents most debris from clogging it up.
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I understand exactly what you are saying with a hairline application but I can assure you they will notice the silicone and there is no telling what kind of damage it would do when some of the silicone leaks through to the screen. im guessing thats where it is, i have an otterbox commuter and it covers everything up. just invest in an otterbox commuter and if you don't care for a lot of bulk and some problems and you're really hard on your phone get the defender series.
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could you post a few good pics of your case on the phone? i havent seen too many good shots of the OB commuter or defender for the incredible. ive read bad reviews about the defender too, not sure if the commuter is the same or not
ufvj217 said:
could you post a few good pics of your case on the phone? i havent seen too many good shots of the OB commuter or defender for the incredible. ive read bad reviews about the defender too, not sure if the commuter is the same or not
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I honestly can't. The only camera i have is on my phone. Check out www.otterbox.com and go to their htc incredible section and check out the commuter, it has pics. the commuter imo is awesome. i've had not a single problem with it.
I found some links with details and pics of the commuter on an Incredible for you:
http://www.incredibleforum.com/forum/htc-incredible-accessories/4887-otterbox-commuter-review.html
http://www.unplggd.com/unplggd/the-otterbox-droid-incredible-protective-case-131195

[Q] Maximum protection cases for Defy?

One of the main reasons I picked the defy was it's ruggedness, because I do potentially dangerous sports, but obviously there are limits to that ruggedness, and if you take a fall or something likely to break the phone, it may well have broken you - and a working phone comes in kind of handy at that point
So... with that in mind, can anyone recommend any decent hard cases? I thinking more along the lines of a hard pouch you slip it into, but may consider flip open ones or something that allows easy access to the touchscreen if it is tough enough.
Waterproofing not really an issue since the defy should be able to handle any streams or such I may fall into anyway.
evilc said:
One of the main reasons I picked the defy was it's ruggedness, because I do potentially dangerous sports, but obviously there are limits to that ruggedness, and if you take a fall or something likely to break the phone, it may well have broken you - and a working phone comes in kind of handy at that point
So... with that in mind, can anyone recommend any decent hard cases? I thinking more along the lines of a hard pouch you slip it into, but may consider flip open ones or something that allows easy access to the touchscreen if it is tough enough.
Waterproofing not really an issue since the defy should be able to handle any streams or such I may fall into anyway.
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Otterbox Commuter Case
Agreed on the Commuter Series. I expect although that it is going to make the phone much phatter than that it already is.
I work as an audio engineer at some places (school, local bars), which means I carry lots and lots of big flightcases. And I've to be kept in the loop. My last phone, an LG KS-20 died this way. As I was carrying a big flightcase, a corner tapped the LCD through my jeans, destroying it. So many appointments and numbers lost!
Note: I haven't got my Defy yet, I'm working things out on getting it.
i'm selling mine. dont like my phone being so bulky because i always put it in my pants pocket.
if you're interested, pm me.
I was using one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Amzer-Silic...2OI6/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1303117510&sr=8-8 but it added too much bulk and it wasn't a particularly good fit even if it did offer decent protection.
I now use one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/iTALKonline...5F3S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303117510&sr=8-1 and it is a good tight fit and it doesn't bulk the phone up very much at all, my defy certainly feels better in my hand now being a bit heavier and a bit grippier, with this case i can slip it in and out of my jeans pocket without it getting stuck as well.
yea i use otterbox. i don't mind the bulky feel
There is a really nice two-piece alternative from case mate. I use it and I can't complain.
makakam said:
There is a really nice two-piece alternative from case mate. I use it and I can't complain.
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can we have some pictures and for how much did you get this case?
I bought it for about 20 pounds.
http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/2108/defy20hybrid.jpg
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3786/defy20hybrid4.jpg
I ordered a few cases from China in eBay, but don't know now if they will have good fits for the micro usb slot and the earphone slot...
Kinda thinking about the Ottebox one, but ah, if it's so bulky.
Only problem about China is that it takes a while to arrive. Will post about it when they arrive.
Cheers,
Andrew
I want to use a special case, but i'm wandering if it has some problems with cooling this way. If i play Dungeon Defenders for example, the phone gets pretty hot, and with a case i'm afraid it will get even hotter, because i'm not sure how the heat will be transfered.
I got a tpu case from ebay and some silicon ones.
The tpu is great but the silicon were really hard to get in and out of the pocket.
I recommend the tpu with a red thing on the back, which you can rip out and it slides well and also fits very well on tue device.
Cheers,
Andrew
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otterbox - but honestly: what for? Ist'n the DEFY tough enough for you;-)
Andrew-droid said:
I got a tpu case from ebay and some silicon ones.
The tpu is great but the silicon were really hard to get in and out of the pocket.
I recommend the tpu with a red thing on the back, which you can rip out and it slides well and also fits very well on tue device.
Cheers,
Andrew
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Can you post a link of that TPU case?
DEFYdepp said:
otterbox - but honestly: what for? Ist'n the DEFY tough enough for you;-)
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got the otterbox as well
it's nice to have cause i dont think the defy will resist falling onto the street, when biking...^^ the case will give it more toughness =))
I've had the Ottterbox case for months now. Everytime I take the case off for some reason it drives me nuts now because the phone just feels too small. I work in a precast concrete plant and end up getting pretty dirty by the end of the day. Thankfully this phone stays a lot cleaner now then other phones I had that I didn't have the Otterbox case.

Will my Nexus 4 be safe with these?

Like many others, I'm a little paranoid after all the horror stories I've read about our brittle, fragile little phones so I ordered a couple of defence measures, A case (I've actually ordered 2 but the one I have doesn't seem very resilient) and a screen protector, do you think these will offer sufficient protection?
Case : JKase DIABLO Series Tough Rugged Dual Layer Protection Case Cover with Build in Stand
The case I already have is the following : Nillkin Tree-Texture Slim, Snap-on / Flip Case / Cover for Google Nexus 4
Screen Protector : XGear Fantom 4 Tempered Glass Screen Protector For LG Nexus 4
The case I have is sturdy enough but I just don't trust it in case I drop the phone, the Diablo case just looks like it would protect the phone better, I have also seen another case which looks like it would protect the phone even better (will update later as I'm at work at the moment)
Just for info, this is the other case I was looking at, I watched a review on YouTube which stated that it's got really good face protection due to the moulding on the corners being more prominent.
LG NEXUS 4 BALLISTIC SHELL GEL SG SERIES CASE
Anyone tried this case and have anything to report/review?
EDIT: Just found this review on XDA I might look at getting this case depending on how the Diablo one works out
How fragile the phone is entirely depends on what you do day to day and what your friends/family/wife/husband would rate your klutzy-ness level as.
As such I have moshed at music festivals and gigs, have a walking heavy campus environment without incident (nor even a scratch) and only use a rear glass protector as the most likely thing to happen is if I hit the corner of a table or something.
To answer your question though, that case looks like it'd be fairly solid hahah.
Are you trying to make your Nexus 4 as durable as a tank or something ?
I've been using my nexus 4 now with only a Ringke Slim, and its still in mint condition.
For normal use you will never need a case like what you have, only in extreme conditions.
mumaster20 said:
Are you trying to make your Nexus 4 as durable as a tank or something ?
I've been using my nexus 4 now with only a Ringke Slim, and its still in mint condition.
For normal use you will never need a case like what you have, only in extreme conditions.
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A tank would be nice yeah lol, I'm only stressing because I've seen stories of people dropping the phone from less than a foot high and the back shattered so I'd rather be safe than sorry, especially since it's not on a contract so we can't go running to a provider to replace it if it gets damaged.
Haha, yeah ofcourse the glass would break if you dropped it on a hard surface, face first.
You'd just ahve to be careful when you have your phone in your hand.
I personally never, ever, have dropped a smartphone and i dont plan on doing it anytime.
Just a simple bumper, or other case will protect you from fall damage.
Those cases you showed make your phone really bulky and ugly (in my opinion).
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I personally never, ever, have dropped a smartphone and i dont plan on doing it anytime.
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LOL I don't think anyone ever sets out to drop the phone, except for these people doing smash tests on YouTube which I don't understand at all...
"I'm going to throw this phone at a wall to see if it will smash"
*BANG*
*TINKLE*
*CRACK*
"Yup, that's really bad, it smashed when I threw it against a wall"
Well durrrrrr!
djsubterrain said:
LOL I don't think anyone ever sets out to drop the phone, except for these people doing smash tests on YouTube which I don't understand at all...
"I'm going to throw this phone at a wall to see if it will smash"
*BANG*
*TINKLE*
*CRACK*
"Yup, that's really bad, it smashed when I threw it against a wall"
Well durrrrrr!
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Looked like you were going to do that, when buying such a case lol.
I suggest taking a look at the Acase Super Leggerra Case. I have one, and it's just like the commuter series of otterbox. It offers good protection and looks pretty nice. Although I wouldn't get the white one. I got it, and it got dirty really easy... lol.
I only use that type of case when I'm at the gym. Otherwise, I have a front and rear bestskinever and that's it. Looks perfect except for some scratches on the chrome border.
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I don't think I've ever seen or heard of anyone shattering their screens or backs using a simple bumper or slim case. Unless you want to be able to physically throw your phone around or treat it roughly, bumpers/slim cases are fine for 95% of use cases for normal people.
But sure, if you want the 100% piece of mind that your phone won't be broken, then by all means, bulk it up and deface the heck out of it.
djsubterrain said:
Like many others, I'm a little paranoid after all the horror stories I've read about our brittle, fragile little phones so I ordered a couple of defence measures, A case (I've actually ordered 2 but the one I have doesn't seem very resilient) and a screen protector, do you think these will offer sufficient protection?
Case : JKase DIABLO Series Tough Rugged Dual Layer Protection Case Cover with Build in Stand
The case I already have is the following : Nillkin Tree-Texture Slim, Snap-on / Flip Case / Cover for Google Nexus 4
Screen Protector : XGear Fantom 4 Tempered Glass Screen Protector For LG Nexus 4
The case I have is sturdy enough but I just don't trust it in case I drop the phone, the Diablo case just looks like it would protect the phone better, I have also seen another case which looks like it would protect the phone even better (will update later as I'm at work at the moment)
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For traveling, I may put on my Ringke Fusion case, but for the most part, I have my OEM Bumper on. If I had a Seidio Active case ordered up, I may pop that on when I go on vacation like Disneyworld.
But given your options you posted, I have seen cases like the Diablo for the GNex and they are indeedy very protective. Not too bad for the price either.
I have the case that OP is looking at...awesome case, I use it while mowing lawns and taking down trees. Not expensive either...
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recommend a case that does not compromise N4's good looks

Just bought a nexus 4 after google's price cut, can someone recommend me a case that offer a good protection without compromising the N4's looks?
Currently I am considering the ringke fusion.
Any other recommendations?
FinancialWar said:
Just bought a nexus 4 after google's price cut, can someone recommend me a case that offer a good protection without compromising the N4's looks?
Currently I am considering the ringke fusion.
Any other recommendations?
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I got the case you are considering but it has yet to arrive in the post which is annoying as i won't take my N4 outside without some sort of case.
Will let you know once i get it which should hopefully be later today or tomorrow.
There is no case that won't compromise its looks, simple as that. Even with the Ringke Fusion.. sure, you can see the back, but through plastic. And the rest is still TPU.. and in reality it doesn't look as flawless and nice as in the renders. There's always a compromise.
You could go for more minimalistic cases such as the quicksand ones. I'm currently using one of them and I really like its look and feel because it doesn't change it as much (I also have a diztronic tpu case which I'll only be using for when I expect rougher conditions, e.g. travel, hiking or whatever). But it comes at the cost of less protection for the device.
It's a matter of what you prioritize and what risks you're willing to take for better look and feel.
jpde said:
There is no case that won't compromise its looks, simple as that. Even with the Ringke Fusion.. sure, you can see the back, but through plastic. And the rest is still TPU.. and in reality it doesn't look as flawless and nice as in the renders. There's always a compromise.
You could go for more minimalistic cases such as the quicksand ones. I'm currently using one of them and I really like its look and feel because it doesn't change it as much (I also have a diztronic tpu case which I'll only be using for when I expect rougher conditions, e.g. travel, hiking or whatever). But it comes at the cost of less protection for the device.
It's a matter of what you prioritize and what risks you're willing to take for better look and feel.
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Could you post a link to the one you are using?
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http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001933/1138601-protective-pc-matte-case-for-lg-nexus-4
If you're concerned about shipping time, there should be lots of other places to buy them. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030443 this is another thread on that kind of case.. I'd expect them all to be pretty much if not exactly the same
jpde said:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001933/1138601-protective-pc-matte-case-for-lg-nexus-4
If you're concerned about shipping time, there should be lots of other places to buy them. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030443 this is another thread on that kind of case.. I'd expect them all to be pretty much if not exactly the same
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that is one ugly cheap case...
It's certainly cheap, but I much prefer it to my diztronic tpu case (http://tpu-cases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=46_76&products_id=303). The material feels very nice and not plastic-y (a bit like jeans, I'd say) and it hardly adds any bulk, which tpu cases do. I also really dislike the shiny border around the edge most tpu cases have, cause that does look pretty cheap.
I personally ordered it cause I was looking for a different case and this one seemed like a very low-risk option, and I ended up liking it a lot. Your mileage may vary, obviously.
FinancialWar said:
that is one ugly cheap case...
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I had a similar type case on my nexus for a few months and it was great. Had a really great feel to it and it actually looks pretty darn sharp when it's on the phone. Doesn't look cheap at all. :good:
thanks, but I think I'll stick with the Ringke Fusion case. I like the clear back.
U can't go wrong with the oem bumper. It offers protection on all edges and prevents both front and back from laying directly on surfaces. I've had it on my white N4 since purchase and i don't have a scratch. Not to mention I am constantly subject to compliments and questions peeked by its sexy appearance.
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I am always partial to the Ringke slim cases. I've had them on my last few phones
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FinancialWar said:
thanks, but I think I'll stick with the Ringke Fusion case. I like the clear back.
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I personally would go with bumper case and maybe add a screen protector on both sides (something like Ghost Armor or Zagg or dBrand skin if you want to go a bit more expensive, OR just get something like XtremeGuard for the back for a cheap alternative - XtremeGuard costs me about $2 for front and back :laugh: )
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For me and is what I use.
I reallu glad with bumper case from poetic.
Your phone keep with the original look protected, if you want a litle more prtection 2 skins one on the back and other on the front.
Box Wave Bamboo case! Only case I have kept on a phone longer than a week! Now going for two months.
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Ringke Slim or Poetic Pallete case.
Hands down two best slim cases. (My opinion lol)
mynigman said:
U can't go wrong with the oem bumper. It offers protection on all edges and prevents both front and back from laying directly on surfaces. I've had it on my white N4 since purchase and i don't have a scratch. Not to mention I am constantly subject to compliments and questions peeked by its sexy appearance.
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Ditto. Unless you're extraordinarily clumsy, the OEM bumper should provide plenty of protection. I've had my Nexus 4 with bumper since December of last year and it has survived many drops. It's even survived a drop onto concrete, complete with a few bounces, with no scratch. The crack that my Nexus 4 has came from when I took the case off momentarily and then it dropped about a foot and a half onto the soft part of an open binder. >_<
OEM bumper + front and back clear skins. Everything else is hideous.
Currently using the Incipio Feather, but I have to admit that the N4 pretty much only looks good caseless.
Tried the official bumper, but it just didn't stick either.
phon00b said:
OEM bumper + front and back clear skins. Everything else is hideous.
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Exactly. Coming from a person who has never liked or had cases on their devices - I just got the OEM bumper in the mail yesterday, and I'm stunned at how good it looks. It actually makes the phone look nicer with the aluminium accents, and protects it rather well.
What do you suggest?
Alright so I'm a little late to the Nexus 4 party, but after much delay, I finally decided to upgrade from my archaic Vibrant and order a shiny new N4. Although it hasn't come in just yet, I was interested to know what cases you guys might suggest. You see here's my dilemma... I know for a fact that the Ringke Slim and other like cases are a major no-no for me. They offer too little protection and from what I've heard, leave the very top and bottom of the device exposed. I would get the OEM bumper as it's very attractive, but I've read many, many, many reviews that note its fragility--specifically around the USB port, which apparently is prone to cracking. I'm also considering the Ringke Fusion as it seems to be a popular choice, or the possibility of going with a wallet style case, as I won't need a screen protector then.
However I'm very torn, as there are so many options and so many drawbacks...
What do you guys think? Is the OEM bumper really all that fragile? Does it break as a result of removing the phone from it or does it crack completely on its own? Should I not even consider the OEM bumper case and go with something much more durable (i.e. the Ringke Fusion, wallet case)? Should I just go naked!?!? (referring to the phone of course )
Thanks in advance! Looking forward to hearing some feedback!

[Q] How many people is this happening to?

Alright, I've had my S4 for about 3 months now. I've never dropped it, never scratched it, its usually in a case with a separate (non glass) screen protector. It still looks brand new.
This morning I was using it in my car in the parking lot of my apartment complex, slip it into my pocket, get out of my car and walk to my room. I took the phone out again and the screen does not work. Just flashes a bunch of colored lines and goes black again. I looked carefully and noticed it was cracked all the way through the LCD panel. The glass itself is unscratched and perfectly smooth. Is this a common problem with this phone? Why did this happen so easily?
Really strange. I hear people having problems like this but can't speak on it because I never experienced it. I like to keep my device protected with a silicone case to absorb shocks just in case I bump into something while it is in my pocket or drop it. Plus a good screen protector.
Those thin hard shell cases are big let downs. They might keep your device looking pretty and thin but they are unreliable.
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Trueray said:
Really strange. I hear people having problems like this but can't speak on it because I never experienced it. I like to keep my device protected with a silicone case to absorb shocks just in case I bump into something while it is in my pocket or drop it. Plus a good screen protector.
Those thin hard shell cases are big let downs. They might keep your device looking pretty and thin but they are unreliable.
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Yeah, I dont like the thin ones. The seem like crappy protection. I had the Neo Hybrid but that cracked last week so I ordered a UAG...it arrived today. Just my luck

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