[Q] What is 2ndboot? - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I currently have CM9 on my Defy+.
I saw that there is an update to CM10 with/out 2ndboot.
Could someone please explain what 2ndboot is and whether I should worry about it.
I only intend to use my Defy+ as an average user.
Thanks,
neiljain

Seek and thou shall find 2nd boot for more info.
And no, you shouldn't worry about it.

Well you don't have to worry, since we've got a locked boot loader any issue can be solved with a simple reflash of your stock sbf. As for what the second boot is read the link on the above comment and what it does, in what could be a layman explanation is boots a secondary kernel for to enhance the custom ROM experience (I guess )
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[Q] 2.3.4 rom help

hi can anyone help,
i bought a defy sometime ago and the person who sold it flashed the 2.3.4 stock rom from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127085
so of corse the defy is green lense so there for camera doesnt work.
is there anyway that i can 1: get camera to work and/or 2: downgrade
ive searched and only found some chinese rom but it has dead links and im a little rusty with nandroid backups etc
can someone guied me
p.s im on cm7.1 if that make any diffrance
thanks folks.
I think 2.3.4 can be downgradable to froyo, am i not right?
I have a green lens defy with stock 2.2 froyo, and for cm7, cm9 and miui, the camera works, so I guess that who sold it to you have it upgraded, don't know why, :S
try flashing froyo, then flash cm7 over it
I'm not sure if will work, but why don't give it a shot
tell me if it worked
Good Luck
No he done full gb 2.3.4 and it says its not downgradeable. I've tryed to flash other sbf's but none work.
Thanks for reply mate.
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jonezy8873 said:
No he done full gb 2.3.4 and it says its not downgradeable. I've tryed to flash other sbf's but none work.
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it was true back then that it wasn't downgradable. but lucky you the situation has changed. you can now downgrade your phone and install custom roms. there are 2 methods available since your rom is only on cg or bl 5:
1) read the first post of this thread completely as all newbies should:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
and in there under common problems/questions you'll find your first solution. this method would preserve your phone to bl5 but it's a bit longer than method 2.
2) method 2 will upgrade your phone to bl6 but it's much easier. so if you don't have any problem with that, use this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=bl6
That's great thanks.
Just what I was looking for
Is this the same method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15341774&postcount=8
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jonezy8873 said:
Is this the same method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15341774&postcount=8
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yes. that is method 1.
balls..... i cant get anything to work
dead links....
cant understand what there on about.....
grrrrrrrrr
jh20 said:
yes. that is method 1.
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its got dead links and when i try to flash the first rom it stops and says fail
jonezy8873 said:
hi can anyone help,
i bought a defy sometime ago and the person who sold it flashed the 2.3.4 stock rom from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127085
so of corse the defy is green lense so there for camera doesnt work.
is there anyway that i can 1: get camera to work and/or 2: downgrade
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Try flashing the full SBF from here - I know the link works because I downloaded it myself a couple of hours ago. It's also rootable using the Droid 3 easy rooting tool linked in that thread. It says in the thread that the green lens camera can be got to work using Greenbreadmod.
If that SBF + Greenbreadmod gets your phone working again then I'd try MS2Ginger or CM7 on it (if CM7 will support the green lens camera, not sure). Take a nandroid backup first - install 2ndInitDefy to get CWM on the phone. MS2Ginger is based on Gingerbread but with some nice enhancements eg 1% battery step, power menu, 720p playback, panorama mode etc. I had the 2.1 version of MS2Ginger on my green-lensed Defy for many months and it was rock solid. I've not tried CM7 but lots of people like it.
ok im downloading it now
so just flash this with rsdlite is that correct.
i have downloaded greenbread 1.1 what do i do with that? do i unzip it on pc or move whole file to clockworkmod backup?
jonezy8873 said:
i have downloaded greenbread 1.1 what do i do with that? do i unzip it on pc or move whole file to clockworkmod backup?
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From the Greenbreadmod thread:
Installation:
Install official GingerBread via nandroid + fixed sbf
Install 2nd-init recovery 0.6.1 or later
Install zip from recovery
RTFM
lol i have no idea what any of that means RTFM? haha
im new at all this
i cant flash that rom anyway it gets to creating img or something like that then says executing then says fail???
ive got all moto drivers installed and running as administrator?
just want a stock rom that camera works.
fed up of cm7 keeps crashing.
tries all the others to like miuiandroid and some others.
starting to miss my iphone :-/
jonezy8873 said:
i cant flash that rom anyway it gets to creating img or something like that then says executing then says fail
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What version of RSD Lite are you using?
5.2 I think
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I used 5.6 to flash that sbf on my phone. Google around, you'll find it online.
Ok I will have a look in a while
Cheers pal
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not even 5.6 works. it gets so far says fail reboots my phone? f**kin mad. ive flashed my old defy like 20 times before and allways worked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839, by walter79, ur cam will work i and i used this rom its 100% work on my red lense defy plus
1) Is your phone actually working at the moment ie can you power it up and get to the home screen?
2) When flashing, do you power it up in to the bootloader? This involves holding vol+ as you press and release the power button.
I'm just wondering whether you might have too little battery to flash. The phone doesn't charge the battery in bootloader mode so repeated flashing can flatten the battery. I believe that bootloader mode will display something like "Battery low - cannot program" if that is the case. Possible fixes are: (1) The McGyver hack, (2) charge the battery in a cheap external charger eg like this one.
veeranna said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839, by walter79, ur cam will work i and i used this rom its 100% work on my red lense defy plus
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I've got green lense mate that what the problem is. I have the 2.3.4 gingerbread rom that camera (green) soesnt work.
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Kernel

Hi guys,
I need some help, sorry I'm a noob with defy... I'm trying to find a good kernel to flash but I was not able to find any.. I'm looking for both performance an battery life wise..
Can you recommend me a kernel and if possible get me a link of the thread please?
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You can't just flashh a kernel, first you must use a rom which works with that kernel, if you wanna a good batt life flash CM72, has a great batt life and works great
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Are you sure? I have a Vibrant and I think it's quite possible to use a stock rom with a kernel of your choice on it. I'm new to the Defy as well, so I would like to know why it's different for this phone. I tried searching for an answer, but I can't seem to find any posts or articles specifically relating to the Defy and kernels. Pretty much everything just involves roms.
that's because the bootloader of defy is locked .. ;( ... Samsung has unlocked one you can put any compatible kernel in it .. but in defy .. only either FROYO one or GINGERBREAD one is the option :|
On Defy we have just two kernels, the GB and Froyo Kernel both signed by Motorola, we can't use custom kernels cause a locked BL, the GB is from the Defy+ Stock Rom, and the Froyo from Defy Stock, i never tried really the GB kernel over the Defy stock, maybe can work, but it will not give you a big difference in performance or batt, cause the Motoblur, first of all, root the phone, install 2nd init and then you can flash the GB kernel aka CM9 kernel here in the forum, but i suggest you to flash CM7.2
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Didn't know you can't flash a custom kernel (I have a Nexus S and you can with that one) , thank you for letting me know
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Ah, that's a bit of a disappointment, but it's good to know! Thank you all for answering. However, is there really no method of unlocking the bootloader? I'd appreciate it if someone could explain exactly why that is. Sorry if this has been asked before.
The short answer in no. Zephyrot has written a good text to begin with, start reading here
Not yet is the correct answer jeje, that topic is under research in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443678
Basically, Motorola has a way to unlock the bootloader, using the OMAP tools and a key owned by Motorola, is possible to unlock but no one can find a way to do that without the key...
LeonardoJegigzem said:
Not yet is the correct answer jeje, that topic is under research in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443678
Basically, Motorola has a way to unlock the bootloader, using the OMAP tools and a key owned by Motorola, is possible to unlock but no one can find a way to do that without the key...
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May be one fine morning we will wake up, check the forum and find how to unlock the BL!!

got a defy, what do i need to flash custom rom?

hi people,
i have a SE x10 mini and its flashed with latest naa kernal and CM7mini.
im swapping it for a motorola defy tomorrow and just want some general answers if possible.
i see on the cm7 instructions it says *Flash froyo* then from clockwork install the .zip. ( similar to x10 mini )
but what steps do i need to take once i get the phone?
do i need to root it first then install a custom recovery first? or can i just chuck the CM7.zip on the sd card and flash?
im a little confused as i have only owned this x10 mini and i know how to flash kernals etc to this phone, just confused with the motorola
any help would be appreciated
regards
come on, at least look at the big Q & A threads before burdening others. I saying this to you instead of answering your questin, so that you at least give the matter some attention yourselves.
May the search be with you!
lol,
i have been reading up.
im not sure on this froyo, eclair etc
how would i know what i have when i get it?
will it say froyo in settings?
with the x10mini its all pretty much easy, no need to find what version or anything, just download cm7mini flash naa and flash.
so im a little confused with the defy,
ive been reading up and understand enough,
but i take it the steps i take is
To root the phone
install the 2ins app to install recovery
then flash cm9?
or do i need to use RSD lite to flash the froyo rom first?
reading the faq is pretty straight forward but i havnt seen the phone yet ( played around with it) so im not sure of the version etc.
im in the uk
in settings it provide ur the Android version. 2.2.2 is froyo... but ... that's not the only problem. from were u buy the phone? reseller or from private
Jelly powered.Defy
From a shop. Swapping it
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ok than ur don't had a problem with the bootloader! it's not that easy as for ur x10mini cause the locked bl in the defy.
in general section is a thread there u find 'custom' sbf files, that u can flash with rsd light. it's the easiest way to get a good ROM on the defy, in only one step. the files are all rooted and with 2nd init. from that point u easy can flash other ROM through CWM, only beware for higher bootloader. ur defy is maximum bl5 I think.
Jelly powered.Defy
Edit:
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691901
Edit2: and before u ask, we don't can flash custom kernel, only custom ROM.
how do i find out what bl# i have?
will it say in rsd lite?
regards
dreamz12345 said:
how do i find out what bl# i have?
will it say in rsd lite?
regards
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No, rsdlite cant say ur the bl version,
ur can use the tool u find in that post
and if ur dont speak chinese in that post u have the answer for the cryptic buttons :good:
First of all, what kind of defy will you get?
Defy, Defy+ or Defy Mini?
The steps to install a custom rom are very easy.
1. root your defy
2 install cwm
3. make a nandroid backup with cwm
4. download the Rom you want to install
5. reboot into cwm and install the Rom.
This is a short instruction. For details instruction go to the Defy developments threads. There you find detailed instructions, and how to install custom Roms.
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It depends on which rom that you want to install and if you have green or red lense (because of the kernel).
But you will find these infos in the instructions of the rom thread.

Newbie in need of help...

First off, thank you all, especially the developers for all the help you're providing and your hard work.
Now, I am a newbie with Android. I've managed to get a running start and flash Blackberries and WM phones in the past...
But it seems like Android is a little bit over my reach... Been reading for 2 days, flashing, installing sbf's and noting pleases me.
My phone is a used Defy, bought with CM9 installed and the camera not working. The previous owner installed the SBF on the defy, and it stopped working as it's said many times. It was a 4.0.4 android version installed, but I was hoping to install the CM10 jelly bean. Bricked it a few times, but managed to reinstall this SBF: DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed.sbf
Now my Defy is running the stock android version with motoblurr, but the camera still doesn't work, as you expected.
Now, all I want is: If I still can't use the camera(the previous owner said my defy has green lens, no way to know for sure), at least it could do is run Jelly bean version, and if it's possible overclocked and with ICS(or how's that hardware acceleration patch called?).
If anybody has time to walk me through it, I will be more than grateful.
Stuff from about phone that might help:
System version: 45.0.2310.MB526.NonEFIGSRetail.en.EU
Model number: MB526
Android version: 2.3.6
Baseband version: EPU_U_00.60.03
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9-ge281b6e
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Built number: 4.5.1-134_DFP-231
Hi,
first of all:
the model number mb526 is for the defy+. The Defy got the number mb525.
is the phone rooted? and when, is the cwm (clockworkmod) installed?
when your phone boots up, does the led lights blue?
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Hello, and thanks for the fast reply.
It is rooted, and I know it's defy mb525.
I had installed sndinit2.3. The led then turned blue. I flashed it afterwards with rds lite and now I dont think I have any recovery mod installed.
As I know, defy+ models only have red lense camera Moduls.
so you flashed a defy+ sbf on a green lens defy. that's why camera doesn't work.
But no problem.
The best way is to download a froyo sbf for the defy at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
the Nordic is good for installing custom rooms.
flash the sbf via rdslite.
After that, root the phone, install 2nd init and then you can easily install custom rooms.
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Well, he flashed his Defy with a Defy+ SBF. So the model number shown in the 'About' option will be MB526 and not MB525. AFAIK, there is no way to make the camera work now.
And he cannot flash froyo SBF as the Defy is flashed with SBF having BL7 and cannot be downgraded.
Sorry, I forgot that a downgrade doesn't work.
In that case, you have to use the custom Roms for the defy+
a good start is, to download a cm7 build defy-cm.net
boot your phone and when the led turnes blue, pressing the volume down key.
you should get into the recovery menu. I wipe data/cache and the install zip from sd (before you have to copy the
downloaded rom on the sd of your phone).
After cm7 is running, go on and download the latest jb rom of quarx. install the same way as cm7.
that's it.
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marco.michel said:
Sorry, I forgot that a downgrade doesn't work.
In that case, you have to use the custom Roms for the defy+
a good start is, to download a cm7 build defy-cm.net
boot your phone and when the led turnes blue, pressing the volume down key.
you should get into the recovery menu. I wipe data/cache and the install zip from sd (before you have to copy the
downloaded rom on the sd of your phone).
After cm7 is running, go on and download the latest jb rom of quarx. install the same way as cm7.
that's it.
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Well, I kinda did that, but... after I flashed the CM10 jb, the phone starts (the sound of new drive connected in windows led me to believe that), but noting comes up on the defy's screen... restarted...but nothing...
So then I flashed back to the SBF previously mentioned...
Donno if there is a difference between sndinit and CMW...
Should I try it with CMW?
paulielciu said:
Well, I kinda did that, but... after I flashed the CM10 jb, the phone starts (the sound of new drive connected in windows led me to believe that), but noting comes up on the defy's screen... restarted...but nothing...
So then I flashed back to the SBF previously mentioned...
Donno if there is a difference between sndinit and CMW...
Should I try it with CMW?
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I guess you flashed a ROM intended for Defy (for Froyo kernel, and yours is GB kernel). Try flashing CM10 ROM for Defy+.
andr0idfreak said:
I guess you flashed a ROM intended for Defy (for Froyo kernel, and yours is GB kernel). Try flashing CM10 ROM for Defy+.
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+1
One the one side, your hardware is a mb525 - defy but on the other side you're firmware an bootloader is a mb526 - defy+.
so you can only use roms for a defy+ - using a rom for the defy causes the error you got.
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andr0idfreak said:
I guess you flashed a ROM intended for Defy (for Froyo kernel, and yours is GB kernel). Try flashing CM10 ROM for Defy+.
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The CM7 that's needed to install CM10 should be also for defy+?
Also, don't I have to follow the steps for defy +? Meaning flashing CM9, and then CM10 JB?
Yes, you can flash CM ROMs for Defy+ only, with battery fix as the battery is 1500mah which defy+ has 1700mah.
andr0idfreak said:
Yes, you can flash CM ROMs for Defy+ only, with battery fix as the battery is 1500mah which defy+ has 1700mah.
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Last question... Should I use CMW or sndinit 2.3? If CMW is the way to go, how do I uninstall the sndinit 2.3 recovery mod or how's it called?
You will have to install 2ndinit to get CWM.
paulielciu said:
The CM7 that's needed to install CM10 should be also for defy+?
Also, don't I have to follow the steps for defy +? Meaning flashing CM9, and then CM10 JB?
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yes, the CM7 should be also for defy+.
The steps for flashing are the same. But as you have a defy+ now, you need some extra tweaks like battery patch and maybe camera patch. Some of them are included in the actual roms. battery patch is needed because of the different types of battery between defy and defy+.
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Thank you guys. I managed to update my Defy to 4.1.1 JB. At least it's running the latest version of android.
Now I'll try to overclock it... Hope I don't brick it...
paulielciu said:
Thank you guys. I managed to update my Defy to 4.1.1 JB. At least it's running the latest version of android.
Now I'll try to overclock it... Hope I don't brick it...
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Its already overclocked to 1Ghz
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ppero196 said:
Its already overclocked to 1Ghz
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Yeah, but I tweaked a little bit the voltage, as my battery is a little bit dry...
paulielciu said:
Yeah, but I tweaked a little bit the voltage, as my battery is a little bit dry...
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For vsels there is this app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815142
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Back again here.
Question as usual.
Is there any chance I can downgrade if I take my defy to a service? Can they do it with some cool toys?
Just reflash your stock SBF using RSDLite and it will be back to how it was when you bought it.

Can't install CM10

Specifically Xperia D 3.5.
I have tried everything I can do, but I can't seem to pass the red light. I read the instructions, did everything, still nothing. I found a thread were they had the same problem, but didn't work. If there is anything I can do to make it work, tell me.
If you really did it right it should work.
Let's check again from the start, what model you have, defy mb525/526?
Trys to install from stock or custom roms?
Rooted? CWM (2ndinit) installed correctly?
Custom rom's zip file downloaded completely without file corruption?
Wiped correctly as instructed?
There must be something wrong in your way, just recheck everything and try again.
Make sure that you have at least bl6 before flashing CM10. I have seen many users failing to install cm10 because of this.
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Make sure that you have at least bl6 before flashing CM10. I have seen many users failing to install cm10 because of this.
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Maybe not, my MB525's based on 2.2.2 froyo build 3.4.3(BL4) and using CM10 2ndboot without problem.
It could be any other point.
Hi,
I am exactly in the same situation, and I posted HERE, where the problem has already been mentionned. Maybe we can mutualize our experiences.
Cheers
I went to the beginners guide for help. I put in the CG5 SBF file from the Chinese Defy. I don't think it would work to put in CM10. It is Eclair.
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OK so bl5 is the one to blame if you have problems upgrading to cm10. Like 'intemptesta' mentioned we're missing more info about the model of your device i.e. mb525/526 red or green lens. See this approach for mb525 red lens.
I have MB525 red lens. Just flashed the Chinese ROM. All I need to do is root it. I just do what the linked thread tells me?
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Did you wait about 10~20 minutes? because this ROM take a long on the first boot
firered365 said:
I have MB525 red lens. Just flashed the Chinese ROM. All I need to do is root it. I just do what the linked thread tells me?
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Sure, you can follow that AIO guide. It's a good thread if you want to get your defy back to life, but it doesn't tell you what to do if you want to successfully install cm10. My guess is that cm10 simply won't work because of that bl5 and I saw this many times before. If you follow that link from my previous post and this link you'll see what I'm talking about.
Thanks! All of y'all have been a great help!
Update: Got it up and running! I get to live!
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