Before I start, I don't believe this belongs in the Accessories category because it is a software/development question.
I have a standard OTG cable, bought it for my Evo 3d and it works fine. Plugging it into my new Nexus 10 (Unlocked and rooted of course) I got the pleasant surprise that it provides enough power from the tablet alone to power most USB devices (even my 2.5" hard drive!). Now, when I used the OTG cable on my Evo 3d, I was able to plug in my Logitech unifying receiver and connect my mouse and keyboard with no setup required (keyboard just works, mouse shows a cursor). With the Nexus 10, no such luck.
I was able to download the USB Host Diagnostics app from the Play Store, and I can see that it is recognizing the adapter no problem, but it is not loading input drivers or setting them to be input devices.
Dmesg from Evo 3d when plugging in OTG + Logitech receiver with mouse and keyboard: http://pastebin.com/kBbZEwXD
Dmesg from Nexus 10: http://pastebin.com/0yyFZK7u
Now, I know my cable works fine with the Nexus 10 because I can mount mass storage no problem.
I would love for someone with some more knowledge of USB host mode to maybe provide some feedback or support.
I'm more than happy to provide any more information needed.
Thank you ahead of time.
EDIT: Solution
craigacgomez said:
Kernel with Logitech Unifying device support available... Download manta-kernel-cgomez.xxxxxxxx.zip from here (xxxxxxxx would be the date of the kernel)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998585
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I'm trying to get this working... I think I have the changes needed... I will let you know soon...
ahorner said:
Before I start, I don't believe this belongs in the Accessories category because it is a software/development question.
I have a standard OTG cable, bought it for my Evo 3d and it works fine. Plugging it into my new Nexus 10 (Unlocked and rooted of course) I got the pleasant surprise that it provides enough power from the tablet alone to power most USB devices (even my 2.5" hard drive!). Now, when I used the OTG cable on my Evo 3d, I was able to plug in my Logitech unifying receiver and connect my mouse and keyboard with no setup required (keyboard just works, mouse shows a cursor). With the Nexus 10, no such luck.
I was able to download the USB Host Diagnostics app from the Play Store, and I can see that it is recognizing the adapter no problem, but it is not loading input drivers or setting them to be input devices.
Dmesg from Evo 3d when plugging in OTG + Logitech receiver with mouse and keyboard: http://pastebin.com/kBbZEwXD
Dmesg from Nexus 10: http://pastebin.com/0yyFZK7u
Now, I know my cable works fine with the Nexus 10 because I can mount mass storage no problem.
I would love for someone with some more knowledge of USB host mode to maybe provide some feedback or support.
I'm more than happy to provide any more information needed.
Thank you ahead of time.
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Same problem here. I originally bought the combo for my Iconia, which had a full size USB port, but I couldn't get them working on the N10. My wired USB mouse and my DSLR camera both connect and work fine though...
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I'm trying to get this working... I think I have the changes needed... I will let you know soon...
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I hope it ends up being something small and flash-able as a fix, instead of having to flash a completely new ROM. Either way thanks!
OK, I've got the Logitech Unifying support working... tested it with my keyboard and mouse... all good... it's a new kernel... I will upload it soon...
ahorner said:
Before I start, I don't believe this belongs in the Accessories category because it is a software/development question.
I have a standard OTG cable, bought it for my Evo 3d and it works fine. Plugging it into my new Nexus 10 (Unlocked and rooted of course) I got the pleasant surprise that it provides enough power from the tablet alone to power most USB devices (even my 2.5" hard drive!). Now, when I used the OTG cable on my Evo 3d, I was able to plug in my Logitech unifying receiver and connect my mouse and keyboard with no setup required (keyboard just works, mouse shows a cursor). With the Nexus 10, no such luck.
I was able to download the USB Host Diagnostics app from the Play Store, and I can see that it is recognizing the adapter no problem, but it is not loading input drivers or setting them to be input devices.
Dmesg from Evo 3d when plugging in OTG + Logitech receiver with mouse and keyboard: http://pastebin.com/kBbZEwXD
Dmesg from Nexus 10: http://pastebin.com/0yyFZK7u
Now, I know my cable works fine with the Nexus 10 because I can mount mass storage no problem.
I would love for someone with some more knowledge of USB host mode to maybe provide some feedback or support.
I'm more than happy to provide any more information needed.
Thank you ahead of time.
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For future reference, this belongs in Q & A.
Kernel with Logitech Unifying device support available... Download manta-kernel-cgomez.xxxxxxxx.zip from here (xxxxxxxx would be the date of the kernel)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998585
Flashed your kernel on my stock rooted firmware and it is working great with my full size logitech keyboard and mouse as well as my mini keyboard/trackpad combo.
Thank you!!
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Kernel with Logitech Unifying device support available... Download manta-kernel-cgomez.xxxxxxxx.zip from here (xxxxxxxx would be the date of the kernel)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998585
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This works great! Thank you so much!
Logitech Unifying Adapter & Sony Xperia S
Hey guys,
I know I'm in the wrong section but I don't know if I ever can solve this problem:
I have a Sony Xperia S with the newest Jelly Bean .211 and this FW cannot identify my Logitech keyboard with a unifying 2.4GHz adapter. All keyboards and mouses with this adapter don't work. I see with USB Host Controller APP that the adapter is recognized with the right vendor and device id but the Xperia S does nothing. With ICS and GB we hadn't this problem. I think only the drivers are missing. I called the Sony support and they told me to do the same studip thing: factory reset, reflash the FW bla bla... :silly: But it's a FW related problem and so on I'm googling this since 2 months and i cannot find anything to solve this. And today I saw this thread. I hope anyone can tell me which files are needed to recognize my Logitech keyboard on USB OTG as a keyboard and to use it. I saw that this problem was solved for the Nexus 10 but only as a kernel and I need only the files or drivers.
Please help
Regards
Just curious , would this kernel help to make a Logitech steering wheel usable as well ?
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Picked up an A500 today after carefully reading through the documentation on Acer's support site as well as the user manual for mentions of USB keyboard support. It says implicitly that there IS support for USB keyboards (just not USB mice yet). However...I can't get a single USB keyboard to work (I've tried 3). Anyone tried this yet and gotten it working? I know the USB slot is working ok, because it reads a thumb drive just fine. Thanks!
meatlocker said:
Picked up an A500 today after carefully reading through the documentation on Acer's support site as well as the user manual for mentions of USB keyboard support. It says implicitly that there IS support for USB keyboards (just not USB mice yet). However...I can't get a single USB keyboard to work (I've tried 3). Anyone tried this yet and gotten it working? I know the USB slot is working ok, because it reads a thumb drive just fine. Thanks!
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I have had no problem with the one USB keyboard I've tried. It's a generic Apple clone from Deal Extreme.
No luck with Bluetooth keyboards though.
i could not get it to work with wireless USB keyboards but it did work with a dell USB keyboard.
it works with a logitech wireless keyboard
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I tried a Dell keyboard, and it worked. One of the things I really hoped was going to work was the GTab case/usb keyboard combo ...the A500 fits perfectly in this case, even more snuggly than the GTab. I can't understand why it doesn't work.
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I tried a Dell keyboard, and it worked. One of the things I really hoped was going to work was the GTab case/usb keyboard combo ...the A500 fits perfectly in this case, even more snuggly than the GTab. I can't understand why it doesn't work.
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I tried a cheap chinese case/usb keyboard combo and it worked but the a500 doesn't fit in...
USB keyboard
Got a case/stand for my vega for £20 of amazon which has a built in usb keyboard, tried it on the iconia works 100%
Actually I think having mouse support would be nicer, maybe in imminent 3.1 release.
KEyboard
I did not have a regular USB keyboard laying around so I tried a PS/2 using a PS/2 to USB adapter and worked perfect.
VitaZora said:
I have had no problem with the one USB keyboard I've tried. It's a generic Apple clone from Deal Extreme.
No luck with Bluetooth keyboards though.
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Just posted in the "Iconia A500 Accessories" forum... I tested the Logitech Cordless MediaBoard Pro for PS3 (bluetooth keybd) and it worked !
Something people may need to note: When I plug a keyboard in while the screen is off, or is locked, it does not work. If I first login, THEN plug in the keyboard (Logitech multimedia USB keyboard) it works great.
i tried some cheap micro keyboard+trackpad combo (about as wide as the tablet in landscape) & had issues. Only time it worked was when I was in the URL bar of the browser, "physical keyboard" showed as an input type option. Anywhere else it just sat plugged in. I may steal my dad's Mac BT keyboard since he doesn't use it. Will clash horribly though
I've got it running on a BT Keyboard/mouse device Works great... I've had issues with the headphones plug not stopping my music... (listen to Hard Rock at work and everyone hears it =(oops).. pull headphones and plug them back in... lots of really little niggles that need to be worked out... hopefully acer will find them all with the update next month!!!
threedfreek said:
I've got it running on a BT Keyboard/mouse device Works great... I've had issues with the headphones plug not stopping my music... (listen to Hard Rock at work and everyone hears it =(oops).. pull headphones and plug them back in... lots of really little niggles that need to be worked out... hopefully acer will find them all with the update next month!!!
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Ohhhh! I've always wondered about that keyboard! Does the trackpad work? How's typing with that keypad?
Touch pad works great for pc and playstation 3... etc... but for the acer it does nothing... Arrows work to get from item to item typing works great... I believe an update will/can allow mouse...
FYI... this device comes with it's own bt usb adapter that is really weak however, when connected to a bluetooth device has decent distance.
threedfreek said:
Touch pad works great for pc and playstation 3... etc... but for the acer it does nothing... Arrows work to get from item to item typing works great... I believe an update will/can allow mouse...
FYI... this device comes with it's own bt usb adapter that is really weak however, when connected to a bluetooth device has decent distance.
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How's the hardware? Solid? Connectivity in and out? And how easy/difficult was it to pair? I've read that a lot of these no-name devices don't come with specific instructions on pairing.
rorytmeadows said:
How's the hardware? Solid? Connectivity in and out? And how easy/difficult was it to pair? I've read that a lot of these no-name devices don't come with specific instructions on pairing.
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Pairing was as simple (on my samsung epic) as searching for devices.
1. push the bluetooth button till the light blinks
2. Search for devices
3. type in a passcode on phone/device
4. type that passcode on the keyboard
I think this is how it was done... worked really well first time to my epic... easily connected on my a500 too. I love the keyboad it works with my entertainment pc that has sagetv on it so controlling the 47" from the couch is awesome.
edit: Hardware is really solid and the bt usb device slides into the keyboard... really convenient
I managed to pair with my Apple wireless KB but no love for typing.
ramy717 said:
i could not get it to work with wireless USB keyboards but it did work with a dell USB keyboard.
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ditto here.
peyotll said:
I tried a cheap chinese case/usb keyboard combo and it worked but the a500 doesn't fit in...
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Which one?
EVO Mobile
My cherry keyboard doesn't seem to run. Sad
DMESG says the following:
<6>[ 660.363583] usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using tegra-ehci and address 6
<6>[ 660.410104] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=046a, idProduct=0023
<6>[ 660.410487] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
<6>[ 688.559913] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 6
So, I just had to see if the usb ports would be good for anything besides USB flash drives. So, I decided to plug in my Logitech VX Nano mouse, and to my surprise it worked right away. In additions I was surprised that the wheel works great for scrolling up and down in the browser. I assume an external keyboard would work as well. Anybody know of any other USB hardware that could be useful?
Thanks for the tip! This is a great substitute for the trackpad while we wait for Asus to resolve the trackpad issues.
Great to hear. I have the same mouse and was wondering if it would work. I prefer to use a mouse when using a notebook on a desk, so this will be perfect.
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i tried a microsoft blue mouse and it worked, but lagged around the screen. guess i'll have to try my regular logitech. Probably the blue tech that didn't work well with android.
Just wanted to bring up USB host mode again because I tried to hook my evo up as a mass storage device through USB, and it did't work. This is kind of disappointing. Has anbody been able to do this with their android phones?
tried connecting with my san francisco phone..(CM7 Rom, 2.3)..it works surprisingly well!!! The phone didn't even prompt me to turn on USB..it enables itself!! maybe it's just too happy to find another android device...-_-
mounted under /Removable/USBDisk1/
my logitech wireless mouse with mini USB adapter works fine..
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Greetings,
The purpose of this post/thread is to describe how to use a USB gaming controller on the Nexus S, which is now possible thanks to the work of fellow XDA member sztupy. Before proceeding, I highly recommend that you read his Galaxy S thread, especially the first few posts (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450298).
First, some demonstrations:
Using USB Host Controller app and Super Mario 64
Batman: Arkham City
Metro 2033
Dirt 3
DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility for any damage you do to your phone.
1.) FLASH KERNEL AND DOWNLOAD APP
First things first, you will need ICS and to flash a kernel that has USB OTG support in it. At the time of this posting, some kernels with USB OTG are:
-steve.garon’s kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427352)
-mathkid95’s Matr1x kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361477)
-Ezekeel's GLaDoS kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336529)
If you do not know how to flash a kernel, please Google it. You will also need to download sztupy’s app “USB Host Controller” (https://market.android.com/details?id=hu.sztupy.android.usbhostcontroller).
2.) ACQUIRE USB CONTROLLER
Next, you will need a supported USB controller. The following should work:
-wired Xbox 360 controller
-Logitech DualAction controller
-Logitech WingMan RumblePad
-wireless Xbox 360 controller WITH wireless receiver
-wired Sony Playstation 3 controller (not yet tested)
...probably many others
3.) OTG SET UP
Thirdly, you’ll need a working USB OTG set up. Sztupy’s thread shows you a few ways of accomplishing this. Below is a (crappy) diagram of MY current working set up.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15806590/diagram2.png
I think this is the best set up because you don't have to buy any fancy OTG cables or USB hubs. But that's just my opinion.
In terms of the order for connecting things, I find it works best if you connect the phone LAST.
4.) FINAL STEPS
Once everything is connected, open up the “USB Host Controller” app, select the “Settings” pane, and set the Operation Mode to “Auto-host” (if you are using a set up that involves an OTG connector/cable, then you'll likely need to select OTG mode instead). If everything went right, the app will close automatically and you should be able to navigate your phone with the controller. You are now ready to game!
Just a note with the 360 controller. The middle button will always flash on and off, and will not stay lit on one quarter of the circle as on an actual Xbox. AFAIK there's no way to fix this (unless you use tape heh).
Games/Apps TESTED & WORKING: (This list is not meant to be comprehensive, and will be occasionally updated)
Note: Pretty much any app/game that supports button remapping (such as emulators) should work
Emulators
-nes.emu
-SNES 9X EX
-N64oid (the right analog stick is not functional)
-Mame4droid
-FrodoC64USB
-Mupen64Plus AE
-FPse
Native/Regular Android Games
-Shadowgun
-Grand Theft Auto 3
-Samurai II: Vengeance
-Riptide GP
-Meganoid
-Reckless Getaway
-Cordy
-EVAC HD
-Radiant HD
-Muffin Knight
Some (not all) of the Xperia Play compatible games will work too. See here for a comprehensive list of Xperia Play titles: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217060
Other
-OnLive (!!! This means you can play the majority of onlive games that are game pad compatible)
thanks man i was thinking of a way to do this.
This is amazing !
I tested the Logitech Dual Action controller yesterday, it works also fine.
Hi! May I use your first diagram in my post too?
Sure! Be my guest.
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3 new gameplay videos added.
nice. any idea if this works with the controllers for the original Xbox? I have a modded Duke I use on the computer, just replaced the Xbox!usb male with a regular usb male, and would love to be able to use it on my Cappy. I know it works perfectly on the mainline Linux kernel, but I'm having no luck finding how the drivers were implemented in ICS. I can't test myself just yet, still waiting for the otg cable and download mode jig to come in.
neoman4426 said:
nice. any idea if this works with the controllers for the original Xbox? I have a modded Duke I use on the computer, just replaced the Xbox!usb male with a regular usb male, and would love to be able to use it on my Cappy. I know it works perfectly on the mainline Linux kernel, but I'm having no luck finding how the drivers were implemented in ICS. I can't test myself just yet, still waiting for the otg cable and download mode jig to come in.
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I can't say for certain, but I think it should work. I found another thread here: http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-accessories/1014-what-game-controllers-work.html for the Acer Iconia tablet, and one user claims their original xbox controller works.
I suppose the only way to know for sure is to try it out yourself. Once you get your OTG set up and running, let us know how that works out for you.
Nice thread, very useful for me, I sold my wired 360 controller, and i thought i will buy a new one when i asked at sztupy's thread if the 360 controller would work with this method, he mentioned me about this thread, and i saw on the 1st page that a wireless controller would work with the receiver...luckily i have one of those but on the op says only it was not tested...so could anyone give me some info about that?
Szighy said:
Nice thread, very useful for me, I sold my wired 360 controller, and i thought i will buy a new one when i asked at sztupy's thread if the 360 controller would work with this method, he mentioned me about this thread, and i saw on the 1st page that a wireless controller would work with the receiver...luckily i have one of those but on the op says only it was not tested...so could anyone give me some info about that?
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Well the reason I suspect that it will work is because I saw this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrTmsZIb0a8&feature=related. Since we now have OTG it is reasonable to assume this would work for us as well.
I tried looking around for a wireless receiver to test but unfortunately all stores near my area only seem to sell it with the controller.
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developersdevelopers said:
Well the reason I suspect that it will work is because I saw this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrTmsZIb0a8&feature=related. Since we now have OTG it is reasonable to assume this would work for us as well.
I tried looking around for a wireless receiver to test but unfortunately all stores near my area only seem to sell it with the controller.
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hm...i'm gonna try it, so, i didn't understand the diagram show in the OP (from the dropbox link, i'm not too good in this), but would it work, if i use a USB Hub, connect the hub to the phone, a usb charger to the hub, and also the receiver?
Szighy said:
hm...i'm gonna try it, so, i didn't understand the diagram show in the OP (from the dropbox link, i'm not too good in this), but would it work, if i use a USB Hub, connect the hub to the phone, a usb charger to the hub, and also the receiver?
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Read sztupy's post here for some ways you can connect a hub: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21503413&postcount=2. As you can see, it is indeed possible to power the controller/receiver from the hub if you have things connected properly.
When you're setting up USB OTG/host for the first time, use a simple device like a USB flash/thumb drive to verify that your connections and everything else are working properly. Then you can try hooking up other peripherals like the 360 wireless receiver.
To be honest, I haven't had much luck getting USB OTG/host to work with a hub, which is why I went and created my own 'Y' cable. It really isn't that difficult to make, and it's cheaper than using a hub, provided that you have soldering equipment already.
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To be honest, I haven't had much luck getting USB OTG/host to work with a hub, which is why I went and created my own 'Y' cable. It really isn't that difficult to make, and it's cheaper than using a hub, provided that you have soldering equipment already.
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you don't even need soldering equipment. I twisted and taped the wires and it worked fine.
Epic_VS said:
you don't even need soldering equipment. I twisted and taped the wires and it worked fine.
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Nice lol.
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Word of caution, the 360 controller wireless adapter draws a lot of power, i recall there being high incidences of it dropping out when plugged into PCs, so be sure to power it adequately.
tiuk said:
Word of caution, the 360 controller wireless adapter draws a lot of power, i recall there being high incidences of it dropping out when plugged into PCs, so be sure to power it adequately.
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woah...i really don't know anything about this electronic thing how should i do?
Just look at your charger and check the output rating. It should say something like: 5.0 V, 0.75 A. Ideally you'll want the second number to be higher (like 1 A for example).
As a point of reference, my wired 360 controller works fine on 0.7 A. But as tiuk pointed out, the wireless receiver may be more demanding.
But really I think you should be okay if you stick with the standard Samsung Nexus S charger. If you need more current for your peripheral, you can simply disable the current draw of your phone with the USB Host Controller app. This way, all of the current from the charger will be directed to the device instead of being split between the device and your phone.
Okay, the first question is aimed at Mad Catz Rich as from what I gathered he is a Mad Catz rep.
Can we expect an OS update to the MOJO? An update to at least 4.3 is important because of FSTrim which seriously affect performance in the long run.
The second question is about the bluetooth and aimed at anybody who can answer. Supposedly the MOJO supports bluetooth but I've also seen mention of a dongle. Do you actually need the dongle to use the controller or is it only for when connecting it to a PC (if it's a requirement it eats up an entire USB right?) So does bluetooth on the device work without the dongle? Can you easily connect devices such as a mouse and a keyboard?
I'm interested in the MOJO but gaming is only third on my list. I want it more as a low power (HT)PC running android so I want to know if my logitech K810 (great for only using one keyboard when switching between the phone, tablet, and PC) would work on it and an actual mouse would be nice since it might take a while to get accustomed to using the mouse mode on the C.T.R.L. (plus I saw some comment somewhere where the person was concerned with the durability of the switch as it would get constant use and a mouse would avoid the need for constant switching).
I'm not sure whether to wait or not as game compatibility is only semi important for me for me (plus I have several humble bundle android games which might avoid the need for play store compatibility). But video playback is important as is the keyboard and mouse. If those work then despite the limited game selection it might be worth it for me.
We have connected a BT keyboard and mouse with no problem to ours. Logitech keyboard, Microsoft mouse & both work well. Neither use a dongle.
I do have the controller's dongle taking up a USB port, but not sure if it actually needs it...I just sort of plugged it in because it was there and I'm a fan of sticking things into other things.
ExtremeRyno said:
We have connected a BT keyboard and mouse with no problem to ours. Logitech keyboard, Microsoft mouse & both work well. Neither use a dongle.
I do have the controller's dongle taking up a USB port, but not sure if it actually needs it...I just sort of plugged it in because it was there and I'm a fan of sticking things into other things.
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Thanks! And yeah, many people are of that practice...
Now let's just see if Mad Catz Rich can give us some info on the OS front.
solsearch said:
Thanks! And yeah, many people are of that practice...
Now let's just see if Mad Catz Rich can give us some info on the OS front.
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Controller has built in blue tooth. Just flip the switch the the far left(blue tooth) and hold start button for 5 seconds. Controller will light up and seek nearby Bluetooth devices and sync.
solsearch said:
....The second question is about the bluetooth and aimed at anybody who can answer. Supposedly the MOJO supports bluetooth but I've also seen mention of a dongle. Do you actually need the dongle to use the controller or is it only for when connecting it to a PC (if it's a requirement it eats up an entire USB right?) So does bluetooth on the device work without the dongle? Can you easily connect devices such as a mouse and a keyboard?
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I use this mini BT kyboard/mouse:
shinatro Mini Bluetooth Keyboard
Works fine, a bit treaky to get used to but very functional.
I haven't tried removing the BT smart dongle, I would say it does need the dongle for the controller only because of android 4.2.2 doesn't support it.
On the new egg TV vid, there's confirmation of Android 4.4 kitkat coming, so I guess that's coming, and when it does the dongle wont be needed on the mojo, as from 4.3 it does support BT smart natively.
Well that's my understanding.
Hi,
The CTRLR included with MOJO has Bluetooth Smart built in, allowing it to take advantage of lower latency and lower power consumption from the Low Energy profile of Bluetooth 4.0. Unfortunately, the Android OS won't be able to take advantage of this until KitKat is made more widely available. So, in the meantime, the USB dongle is included to make up for this connection. This will be similar for other Bluetooth Smart devices that don't have the OS/hardware matching up yet. The Bluetooth 4.0 built-in, however, is backwards-compatible with all Bluetooth Classic connections.
Regarding USB ports, using a USB hub should be just fine for connecting additional USB devices. Ie, wired keyboard, wired mouse, usb dongle wireless keyboard or mouse, xbox 360 controller, external hard drives, thumbdrives, etc.
Mad Catz Nate said:
Hi,
The CTRLR included with MOJO has Bluetooth Smart built in, allowing it to take advantage of lower latency and lower power consumption from the Low Energy profile of Bluetooth 4.0. Unfortunately, the Android OS won't be able to take advantage of this until KitKat is made more widely available. So, in the meantime, the USB dongle is included to make up for this connection. This will be similar for other Bluetooth Smart devices that don't have the OS/hardware matching up yet. The Bluetooth 4.0 built-in, however, is backwards-compatible with all Bluetooth Classic connections.
Regarding USB ports, using a USB hub should be just fine for connecting additional USB devices. Ie, wired keyboard, wired mouse, usb dongle wireless keyboard or mouse, xbox 360 controller, external hard drives, thumbdrives, etc.
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When will you be updating MOJO to KitKat?
No news to share regarding this yet. Sorry. :C
gwaldo said:
I use this mini BT kyboard/mouse:
shinatro Mini Bluetooth Keyboard
Works fine, a bit treaky to get used to but very functional.
I haven't tried removing the BT smart dongle, I would say it does need the dongle for the controller only because of android 4.2.2 doesn't support it.
On the new egg TV vid, there's confirmation of Android 4.4 kitkat coming, so I guess that's coming, and when it does the dongle wont be needed on the mojo, as from 4.3 it does support BT smart natively.
Well that's my understanding.
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Just to clarify this even further, whilst 4.3 adds Bluetooth Smart support it doesn't have support for all Bluetooth Smart profiles. 4.4 adds support for HID over GATT which is what's needed for Smart mice, keyboards and game controllers.
Mad Catz Rich said:
Just to clarify this even further, whilst 4.3 adds Bluetooth Smart support it doesn't have support for all Bluetooth Smart profiles. 4.4 adds support for HID over GATT which is what's needed for Smart mice, keyboards and game controllers.
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Hi MC Rich, happy new year
Thanks for the clarification.
Oh the same HID over GATT which iOS has?
I know it's not officially supported, but I did try pairing with iPhone5, but it didn't find it.
gwaldo said:
Hi MC Rich, happy new year
Thanks for the clarification.
Oh the same HID over GATT which iOS has?
I know it's not officially supported, but I did try pairing with iPhone5, but it didn't find it.
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Gamepads have to be specifically created for iOS in order for them to work so, no dice there I'm afraid. The CTRLR will pair directly with one of the following:
Android device running 4.4 + Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Windows 8/8.1 PC with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Macbook running Mavericks with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Mad Catz Rich said:
Gamepads have to be specifically created for iOS in order for them to work so, no dice there I'm afraid. The CTRLR will pair directly with one of the following:
Android device running 4.4 + Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Windows 8/8.1 PC with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Macbook running Mavericks with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
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My tablet is running 4.0.4 with the MC BT4 dongle over OTG and works fine.
gwaldo said:
My tablet is running 4.0.4 with the MC BT4 dongle over OTG and works fine.
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Yep - I did say directly
With the dongle, of course, you can connect it to anything that supports a USB gamepad (and which doesn't require some other form of authentication, such as Xbox 360), which even includes a Playstation 3 (although the button assignments will be all kinds of wrong).
Mad Catz Rich said:
Yep - I did say directly
With the dongle, of course, you can connect it to anything that supports a USB gamepad (and which doesn't require some other form of authentication,...
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That would mean, I could use the controller with my LG G2 and Nexus 7 ? Both are supporting USB gamepads, keyboards and mousecontroll.
If the Mad Catz BT dongle would act like any other wireless to USB keyboard transmitter, it should work " out of the box ".
That's not the case.
scorpio16v said:
That would mean, I could use the controller with my LG G2 and Nexus 7 ? Both are supporting USB gamepads, keyboards and mousecontroll.
If the Mad Catz BT dongle would act like any other wireless to USB keyboard transmitter, it should work " out of the box ".
That's not the case.
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It should be - the dongle conforms completely to the HID USB standard so it doesn't do anything funky or out of the ordinary. That said, I've noticed on our Nexus 7 that sometimes you have to unplug/replug the OTG cable a couple of times to get it to recognise correctly, depending on the OTG cable that you use. You can tell if you've got a good connection because the home button LED should illuminate blue rather than flashing.
So yes, provided you've got a good OTG cable and all other things being equal it will work on any device that supports USB game controllers.
I've used this OTG cable on many different devices. It's definately full working. Before my former post, I have rechecked if my wireless keyboard with USB dongle works. Sony Sixaxis on USB are fine working. On both devices. Both devices even have enough power output to run harddrives.
The LG has JB 4.2.2 and the N7 has the actual 4.4.2 running. The controler simply can't pair.
In terminal lsusb didn't even list the dongle as recognized device.
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I've used this OTG cable on many different devices. It's definately full working. Before my former post, I have rechecked if my wireless keyboard with USB dongle works. Sony Sixaxis on USB are fine working. On both devices. Both devices even have enough power output to run harddrives.
The LG has JB 4.2.2 and the N7 has the actual 4.4.2 running. The controler simply can't pair.
In terminal lsusb didn't even list the dongle as recognized device.
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It's clear that it's not getting initialised through that OTG but can't explain why that is happening, I'm afraid. If it's working through your M.O.J.O. then we know it's okay and we don't do anything specific at all on M.O.J.O. to support it - it really is just a USB HID compliant dongle.
Strange, if I connect the bt dongle through a passive hub, it will be recognized by my G2 and N7.
It's not a really handy solution.
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I bought another OTG cable and now, the dongle is recognized to my LG G2 without the HUB.
So, you're absolutely right. The C.T.R.L.R USB-dongle should work with any device. :good:
Hi,
I am happy with the Mojo, and are using it mostly for media.
To control, I am using a wireless keyboard with irda adapter connected to the usb v2 port.
Now want to use it for gaming at the same time off course.
The problem is when connecting the gamecontroller in usb v3 port.
Sometimes wifi stopped working, and the keyboard loses connection as well.
Have you tried keyboard (with mouse) and the gamecontroller at the same time?
What are your experience and what type of keyboard are you using?
andieha said:
Have you tried keyboard (with mouse) and the gamecontroller at the same time?
What are your experience and what type of keyboard are you using?
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I use this BT2 keyboard/mouse combo
Works well, Just have to hit esc to get out of virtual keyboard.
Both paired and connected at the same time.
Both time out but come back on with no problems.
I usually have MOJO set up in a desktop setting with a wired keyboard/mouse connected to a USB hub, which in turn, is connected to the MOJO. Also played around with a few wireless keyboard/mice. No issues with having keyboard/mouse/etc connected at same time as the CTRLR's USB dongle. The only problem is getting used to the virtual keyboard disappearing if a keyboard is connected.
To note, I use one of our Mad Catz RAT's that has on-the-device DPI adjustment, letting me adjust pointer speed on the fly.
Performed a backup using Titanium and then connected the irda keyboarb in the usb 2.0 usb port.
Worked without any problems this time
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andieha said:
Performed a backup using Titanium and then connected the irda keyboarb in the usb 2.0 usb port.
Worked without any problems this time
Sent from my GT-P5113 using Tapatalk
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I keep a logitech wireless mouse handy. When I need it I just plug in the dongle to the 2.0 port on back. No issues using the mouse or CTRLR simultaneously.
I'm trying to figure out the best way to have the virtual keyboard hide while I use my bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo. I am using a logitech Mediaboard Pro which was built for the ps3. It doesn't connect with a dongle , it is true blutooth. I'm not sure if that makes any difference with how it effects hiding the virtual keyboard or not. I have been connecting to it with in the settings, blutooth menu. I have tried a couple of the Null keyboard apps in Google play with no luck. Anybody have any suggestions.
Can someone please recommend a decent bluetooth keyboard with touchpad. No usb dongle.
Thanks
The next firmware update should help with that issue - we're hoping to release it very, very soon.
mokdakid said:
Can someone please recommend a decent bluetooth keyboard with touchpad. No usb dongle.
Thanks
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Bluetooth combo keyboards/mouse generally don't come with USB adaptors.
So, I think any BT2 (classic) keyboard will work, mine works fine (a bit too small) but as Nate says have to escape out of the virtual keyboard.
USB keyboard doesn't do this.
Mad Catz Rich said:
The next firmware update should help with that issue - we're hoping to release it very, very soon.
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:fingers-crossed:
Looking forward to it
gwaldo said:
Bluetooth combo keyboards/mouse generally don't come with USB adaptors.
So, I think any BT2 (classic) keyboard will work, mine works fine (a bit too small) but as Nate says have to escape out of the virtual keyboard.
USB keyboard doesn't do this.
thanks
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I've posted the link to the latest firmware update here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647180
Install that and it should sort the onscreen keyboard issue as Bluetooth keyboards will now correctly detect as physical keyboards.
Mad Catz Rich said:
I've posted the link to the latest firmware update here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647180
Install that and it should sort the onscreen keyboard issue as Bluetooth keyboards will now correctly detect as physical keyboards.
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Thanks, did the update and I'm really glad by the better support to blutooth keyboard. Now the mojo will remember my blutooth after rebooting. Also I noticed the word suggestion at the bottom of the screen. Is there a quick method of inserting the suggested word other than using the mouse to pick it. Thanks