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Hey everyone, so I was reading this post from another Xda'er and was reading comments from almost a year ago from this article Here, I came across a post by a person that read this
"Same. iPhone is the de facto benchmark (for now) that this will likely beat by a good measure. The mitigating factor -- for some -- is if you need the variety of iPhone's apps. It'll be a constant balance between that flexibilit*y and the faster network/mo*re power this device is capable of."
This was on the comments section of the CTIA announcement of the Evo, I just came to the realization that I stopped comparing my phone to the iPhone long ago and actually started Benching it up with other Android Devices. I thought it was pretty funny, I mean I like the iPhone if it was on Sprint I would surely get one but now that I am seeing these new phones its just awesome!
Anyone else have a similar experience thus far?
Blitzpwnage said:
Hey everyone, so I was reading this post from another Xda'er and was reading comments from almost a year ago from this article Here, I came across a post by a person that read this
"Same. iPhone is the de facto benchmark (for now) that this will likely beat by a good measure. The mitigating factor -- for some -- is if you need the variety of iPhone's apps. It'll be a constant balance between that flexibilit*y and the faster network/mo*re power this device is capable of."
This was on the comments section of the CTIA announcement of the Evo, I just came to the realization that I stopped comparing my phone to the iPhone long ago and actually started Benching it up with other Android Devices. I thought it was pretty funny, I mean I like the iPhone if it was on Sprint I would surely get one but now that I am seeing these new phones its just awesome!
Anyone else have a similar experience thus far?
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The iPhone never really was the benchmark hardware-wise. They tend to release very competitive hardware for the release period (Ex: iPhone 5 will be one of the most advance phones released on launch) but a month or two later a newer better spec'd phone will be out (Like the SGS vs. iPhone 4). The one thing that the iPhone still continues to do good is in the optimization of it's software. With just one model a year to focus on, Apple will always make sure that iOS squeezes out as much performance from the hardware.
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The iPhone never really was the benchmark hardware-wise. They tend to release very competitive hardware for the release period (Ex: iPhone 5 will be one of the most advance phones released on launch) but a month or two later a newer better spec'd phone will be out (Like the SGS vs. iPhone 4). The one thing that the iPhone still continues to do good is in the optimization of it's software. With just one model a year to focus on, Apple will always make sure that iOS squeezes out as much performance from the hardware.
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Very true. I dont think I was comparing hardware when I first saw these phones, I was a complete noob I still had a samsung rumor let me tell you that phone was priceless it was a little brute! But I never really cared for specs on iPhones it was more or less how smooth the experience is like you said I commend apple with how amazingly optimized their software is. It is just awesome, I really wish android had this but it is still coming into its own my only fear is that new devices will keep being pushed out like candy and new ones will be completely forgotten after less than 6 months this will be the trend, if so android has no stable platform, I think this is fragmentation but hey it keeps getting better and look at the dev community here they do an AMAZING JOB, they are OUR optimizers just wish they had more back pocket to push them and more people to help like Apple does but then again they have to....I think I just typed what I was thinking....oh well hope some of this had a point.
my roommate has an iphone and they were all up in steve jobs bum about how awesome it is and didn't like my evo when I got it (had 2.1at the time) I didnt care much about how great the iphone screen was as it was too small for me, now that I think about it ever since I rooted I can't recall an instance when their iphone did something better
they are talking about how they want to jailbreak it now and I actually thought " how cute that they want to take their little toy out of the box"
my evo is far superior and I dont think the iphone is competition
With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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Did you read any of my posts at all. I wasnt bashing the iPhone in any way at all I ACTUALLY SAID I WOULD BUY ONE....I would drop my android phone for an iPhone right now if it was on Sprint but its not and I like android all the same too. I wouldnt mind having both but seriously dude your post accomplished nothing and has proven you didnt read the 2 more verbose posts not that one guys where is he saying his phone can do anything the iPhone can, stop trying to be some hero and be "neutral" when I started this thread not as an iPhone bashing thread I had just realized this point and wanted to see if anyone else had, so before you hijack my thread and at nothing more I PLEAD with you to read what else I have written and edit your post with help information. I actually thing I described fragmentation which Applbots love to talk about Android Fanboys love to omit from their knowledge and sane people who dont really argue over it for we have XDA.
P.S. I dont know where you come from where my opinion doesnt matter, to me it surely does and I could give .02 if it matters to you, the thing is I was curious if anyone else had similar thoughts.
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With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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Pretty much. When that Iphone drops on Verizon people are REALLY going to see how popular that phone is. There are still a ton of people that want it but wont switch to at&t to get it. Both OS have their advantages but the thing that I still miss about IOS is the apps by far.
sobis1dm said:
With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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iPhone doesn't have the popularity anymore. Android has been outselling iPhones for months now. So, we have the more popular brand now.
Also, have you ever been on an iPhone forum? All they do is bash Android. They have whole threads dedicated to it. They have fake reviewers ***** about how terrible Androids are:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/
They write on our YouTube videos (guides, reviews, just showing off the phone because we love it) being little brats and throwing insults my 12 year old brother would shake off and laugh at.
So, for a couple of Android loving Evo owners to complain about iPhone and it's users in a private environment not only shows more maturity than iPhone users, it shows respect to their videos and forums by not flooding the internet with useless, incorrect rabble. We can admit the iPhone owns benchmark without getting our panties in a twist, but even I'm sick of hearing about it on phonedog reviews for Android phones.
Leave them alone, you can avoid conversations like this, if you don't like them, using this guide.
ABSOLUTZERO'S GUIDE TO AVOIDING CONVERSATIONS YOU DON'T WANT TO READ.
Step 1: Hit the back button.
Step 2: Go enjoy the rest of your day.
The theme of your post is: "Sup guys I forgot about the iPhone. It's cool and all but these new things rock"
It's really pathetic. I know you're not the only one. But why can't we just enjoy our device without looking like a bunch of idiot underdogs that take every jab we can?
AbsolutZeroGI said:
iPhone doesn't have the popularity anymore. Android has been outselling iPhones for months now. So, we have the more popular brand now.
Also, have you ever been on an iPhone forum? All they do is bash Android. They have whole threads dedicated to it. They have fake reviewers ***** about how terrible Androids are:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/
They write on our YouTube videos (guides, reviews, just showing off the phone because we love it).
So, for a couple of Android loving Evo owners to ***** in a safe place to one another about how annoying iPhone and it's users are and how much we hate the phone is not only understandable, it's probably better than if they posted phony reviews and spam youtube videos.
Leave them alone, you can avoid conversations like this, if you don't like them, using this guide.
ABSOLUTZERO'S GUIDE TO AVOIDING CONVERSATIONS YOU DON'T WANT TO READ.
Step 1: Hit the back button.
Step 2: Go enjoy the rest of your day.
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Ok. So he can have input, but I can't have input on his input. Got it.
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Ok. So he can have input, but I can't have input on his input. Got it.
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His input was on topic, your input was not. Of course, mine isn't either so technically we're both trolling now.
sobis1dm said:
The theme of your post is: "Sup guys I forgot about the iPhone. It's cool and all but these new things rock"
It's really pathetic. I know you're not the only one. But why can't we just enjoy our device without looking like a bunch of idiot underdogs that take every jab we can?
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Did you read one WORD even a single sentence, I stated I liked the iPhone, are you trying to troll, this thread needs to be cleaned up.
I admit that title was misleading and was ignorant apologies alright it sounded different to me at the time. It was more personable and was not intended for community interpretation.
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Did you read one WORD even a single sentence, I stated I liked the iPhone, are you trying to troll, this thread needs to be cleaned up.
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The thread doesn't need to be "cleaned up," the forum needs to be cleaned up. I'm pretty sure the name of the forum we're in is "Evo 4G General," as in, related to the Evo 4G - NOT some roundabout broad topic discussion about the iPhone. Go to the more general forums if you want to talk about that. I'll just keep talking about the phone, as this forum was meant, and deterring those who aren't. Sound good?
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His input was on topic, your input was not. Of course, mine isn't either so technically we're both trolling now.
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o/
sobis1dm said:
The thread doesn't need to be "cleaned up," the forum needs to be cleaned up. I'm pretty sure the name of the forum we're in is "Evo 4G General," as in, related to the Evo 4G - NOT some roundabout broad topic discussion about the iPhone. Go to the more general forums if you want to talk about that. I'll just keep talking about the phone, as this forum was meant, and deterring those who aren't. Sound good?
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First off, look at the link I posted, hmmmm thats not on topic at all, nope that is not about the Evo AT ALL, I changed the title of the thread seriously, grow up and drop it and stop hijacking my thread and maybe have some useful input...
Noob question not directed at the troll.
How do I report my own thread?
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First off, look at the link I posted, hmmmm thats not on topic at all, nope that is not about the Evo AT ALL, I changed the title of the thread seriously, grow up and drop it and stop hijacking my thread and maybe have some useful input...
Noob question not directed at the troll.
How do I report my own thread?
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Okay. Well I'll create a thread next time I'm on the toilet browsing Engadget on my Evo, and it'll be about the Evo. Sound good?
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Okay. Well I'll create a thread next time I'm on the toilet browsing Engadget on my Evo, and it'll be about the Evo. Sound good?
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Ummmmm, yea actually what will we be discussing.
P.S. You should police this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785408
Its the Call of Duty Clan thread on the EVO 4G General section tisk tisk they must be policed... Do your best sobis1dm
Nah. That thread starts, "Flame me if you want." At least he's not blindly defending himself, and knows he's off topic.
I don't think benchmarks matter because... speed doesn't really matter much anymore.
Seriously I haven't had any lag issues with my phone besides the awful GPU.
Nowadays every phone seems to be strong enough to handle anything.
To me, features mean more than specs now... somewhat.
WARNING
this thread is going way off the rails. please stay on topic.
thanx
patelkedar91 said:
I don't think benchmarks matter because... speed doesn't really matter much anymore.
Seriously I haven't had any lag issues with my phone besides the awful GPU.
Nowadays every phone seems to be strong enough to handle anything.
To me, features mean more than specs now... somewhat.
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Speed does matter. Resolutions are increasing, animations and presentation are getting more sophisticated, etc. But the issue isn't the CPU, it's the GPU and I've been saying this for a long time. We don't need a dual core CPU to run the Facebook app; and it's unlikely that we'll be see many apps in the future that require that much power either. It just doesn't fit the on the go and small form factor use case of a smartphone. I still expect the power to increase but I think a much more logical progression in 2011 would be single core Cortex A9. It'd still be way more powerful than anything pre-CES and the power efficiency would be higher especially as the die size decreases even further.
The main bottle neck is the GPU. Think of every app that DOES require power to be smooth and fast: Google Earth, 3D view in Google Maps, fringe features like Live Wallpapers, and of course, games. Basically mobile apps will not need lots of computation power to process tasks but might need graphical power to display the information it outputs. So just pair up a =< 40nm single core A9 with a beast GPU (PowerVR SGX 545 or equivalent), a huge battery (1920 mAh like the Atrix 4G, and why not? the phones are HUGE now), smaller more efficient radios and components, and bam, you got a phone that'll eclipse all current phones, run super smooth, and last all day under heavy use.
Once Android is GPU accelerated it'll be hard if not impossible to tell the difference (visually, not through benchmarks) between a single core and dual core phone that shares the same GPU.
*warning, this thread has no drama, bashing, or flaming. I know it's not the XDA way but I wanted to thank everyone.
I know there is a thanks button but wanted to especially give a thanks to our hard working Vibrant Devs. Long and bumpy road but I think my Vibrant is finally where it was meant to be (IMO). I'm ready to move on to the next Samsung device and will be staying in the SGS family. This is the longest I have kept a phone in years. Over 6 months is like a lifetime to me. Hopefully my site scored a review unit from our dealings at MWC, which I'm hoping I have a part of.
Anyway, my Vibrant running Bionix 1.2 with a Supercurio injected kernel is damn near perfect for me. Great data speed, 10 sec GPS lock, 24 hour battery life, no lag, great voice calls and quality. I could not ask for anything more. 6 million ODIN's and wipes and I dont know what else I can expect from this phone. Maybe an FFC to hold me off.
Thanks to all the Devs that made it possible. Hats off. I have a combination of work from most of these great people, and some others of course. Thanks to all.
Team Whiskey
Eugene
Master
Supercurio
ttabbal
and many more that work with them and elsewhere...
I agree with you, if it weren't for these guys I would never buy another samsung phone. Since the recent work that has come out is nothing short of great and IMO headed in the right direction, I will most likely keep samsung in mind upon my next update.
Just curious, what phone are you getting next?
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Just curious, what phone are you getting next?
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Whatever TMO variant of the SGS II family. Been a long time supporter of HTC, and never really a Moto fan. I like the build quality of HTC and Moto, but the pros and cons of Samsung really do it for me. I got some hands on at CES on most phones there and my editor is now at MWC relaying info. LG and Sammy have it locked. If the Atrix was in TMO flavor then it would be considered, but HTC just updated thier current line and Moto hates community development.
My editors first look at the SGS II and the new Tab She told me the casing feels quite solid, unlike the current SGS line which is good to hear.
Based off what I know here is why I like Sammy:
damn near unbrickable
Super AMOLED kills it, now we have a "+" version
hack/mod friendly
Samsung CPU/GPU's hold their own
We have great Devs supporting the Samsung line
Write your own review here so others can get idea who are looking for this phone.
My Review-
I have seen many people try to claim that Galaxy Fit, Galaxy Y and other in this range are better than this phone. Well, I don't really agree with this. Yes, they are officially Gingerbread supported phones and have a good Graphic Driver but it lacks something which is more important. Development! Yes, We don't have huge development for these phones. Some don't have their own forum either. Heck, even Ace doesn't have it's forum on main page. The development for this phone is huge, great and consist of very helpful users. You can't have luxury of using various Custom ROM's, tweaks, Themes, Kernel and every other development you will see in other High range phones. Before going to start discussion than this phone doesn't have Gingerbread or a good Graphic driver. Hold on, and look on development forum.
The developers here are very best and experienced in almost every field. We have ported CM7 ROM, OpenFIMG Driver and custom ROM's which makes the phone fast and fills every field which which it lacked before. Tools like Chainfire, modified flash player makes this phone more than worth at this cost and even comparable to some Higher range phones. Thanks to our developers, I am happy that I have this phone. If you are looking for high development but want a cheap phone than this is for you. If you want to keep it all stock, then you can go for any other like Galaxy Fit.
Less devlopament because they are new...
Galaxy 3 is of of course better then galaxy y
But we can't say for galaxy fit for now...
It may get own devs by time...
I agree that we have so much devlopament...
(thanks to devs)
Because the other phones are newer, we can't compare them...
And I think, g3 and apollo is not available as a new piece, people who want to take a new phone, should buy a new phone...
News is Galaxy y will get his siblings that may have front camera with low price...
But still a cheap I think...
Conclusion is,
Our phone is best by our side...
Newer phones may get their devs slowly...
People who want to buy a new phone should buy a high range of phone which ever suits their budget...
If phone is of too low range, may not give a good android experience...
Finally, samsung always gives a **** plastic feel in all range of phones
Giving a review about this phone is hopeless because its dead. I mean you can't find it in the market. Phone like fit and pop are good but our cells beats them in dev. In spec they beat us cause we don't have a good gpu. If we had that we could kick the a$$ easily. If you are looking for a midrange Samsung, go for ace or spend some more and get a galaxy s.
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That is what I'm saying...
More over this is my first samsung or I can say first other than motorola after all motorola phones....
Phone is very good but disappointed me by
plastic...
Probably going for motorola again in new shopping...
Hope that will have good devs...
When I will buy it...
I think I'm going of topic
Sorryyyy
To mr PG
Can we continue this thread forever for writing our experience with phone instead of closing this thread?
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M_247 said:
That is what I'm saying...
More over this is my first samsung or I can say first other than motorola after all motorola phones....
Phone is very good but disappointed me by
plastic...
Probably going for motorola again in new shopping...
Hope that will have good devs...
When I will buy it...
I think I'm going of topic
Sorryyyy
To mr PG
Can we continue this thread forever for writing our experience with phone instead of closing this thread?
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Try Motorola defy+ . Great phone and great dev.
And yes prateek, don't close this thread.
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I want to request friend863 to change the name to
Your galaxy review
Or
Share your galaxy experience
Or
Any other that suits best (this is just my thought )
And want to invite all viewers of this thread to share their experience with the cute galaxy 3
Share your all experience
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All experience
Galaxy 3 Reviews sounds right too. It means we can see different user reviews here.
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Ok, that is your choice
And we have nothing yet
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G3 Good as a Mid-Range Android
G3 is really good.
This is my First Android Phone and really happy with it.
My love letter to the G3
i went in the shop looking for an entry android phone and bought my g3 because they had mispriced it at £14.00 instead of £140.00. i bought three and gave one to my bro and one to my mum. I walked out of the shop feeling pretty pleased with my bargain phone and it hasn't stopped impressing me since.
Ive played with the galaxy y and other lower end samsung models and they dont seem to have the same heart as the G3. sure its a bit plastic and the screen is small and when its laid flat it cant decide if its in portrait or landscape mode, but it has something unique, an Xfactor... you. All of you! from the skilled devs to the noobs like me, this phone is loved and cherished and is being pushed well beyond its means by this community.
i know one day i will have to get a new phone (probably when i hardbrick this one!) but i doubt il ever love another handset in the same way, if i could hit all of your thanks buttons at once i would because its this community that drives my love of our humble, glitchy galaxy 3
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i went in the shop looking for an entry android phone and bought my g3 because they had mispriced it at £14.00 instead of £140.00. i bought three and gave one to my bro and one to my mum. I walked out of the shop feeling pretty pleased with my bargain phone and it hasn't stopped impressing me since.
Ive played with the galaxy y and other lower end samsung models and they dont seem to have the same heart as the G3. sure its a bit plastic and the screen is small and when its laid flat it cant decide if its in portrait or landscape mode, but it has something unique, an Xfactor... you. All of you! from the skilled devs to the noobs like me, this phone is loved and cherished and is being pushed well beyond its means by this community.
i know one day i will have to get a new phone (probably when i hardbrick this one!) but i doubt il ever love another handset in the same way, if i could hit all of your thanks buttons at once i would because its this community that drives my love of our humble, glitchy galaxy 3
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Lol 14 frigging pounds, any deal is a good one for that money
You're quite a story teller to
Wiggierip said:
Lol 14 frigging pounds, any deal is a good one for that money
You're quite a story teller to
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lol Thanks and yeh you can certainly see why I bought 3
Does anyone else here feel like the note was just a temporary stepping stone before the s3? I mean support from Samsung about the notes black crush and emmc issue have been ignored, most of the devs have jumped ship (not that I blame them) but I just feel that in half a year the notes dev community is going to start grinding to a halt :/ its sad because its a wonderful device and I love it but it just seems to have been moved on from so quickly by everyone. I mean look at the amount gb dev for this device! ICS comes along finally and not much has been done to it because people have moved on. Its a real shame :/
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I have yet to own an Android phone that HASN'T happened to (large portion of Dev's/users moving on to the "latest and greatest").
We still have some great dev's though, I dont feel too worried.Along with the fact that many of us do not care for the S3 so I don't see as mass of an exodus as many previous Android phones I have owned.
That and it's not like we have a vast choice of phones to compete with the screen of the Note, which in all fairness, is why a majority of us are here. It would have to be a whole lot more of a phone for me to want to downgrade to a 4.8" screen, and that is NOT the S3.
Note 2 on the other hand... I suspect to see the Note community get much quieter
I was only thinking the other day how quite the note development section is now a days.
Why?
There are only (for me) 4 or 5 custom roms that are of use to me. And only 2 of those see regularly updated. The rest are old and using old Sammy releases or cm9 of which i tried but never been a fan of. As for kennels their is only speedmod for me and hardcore does not seem to update very often and in my opinion is the only stable one but is lacking in development to reach his high standard.
I agree that with this device I would of expected a lot more going on with it.
Its a real Shame coos I too did expect more and its getting rather stale at present.
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its how android market is in general buy newest next best thing a few months around the corner
Also note is distinct enough not to qualify for steppingstone in my humble opinion
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I love my Note, probably the best device I've ever had... But I wish there were some kernels with bln! It really annoys me...
/CK
Personally? I have yet to see a device that scales the massive 5.3" size. Sure there WAS the DELL Streak before? but it's already been antiquated into oblivion (well there are still developers working on that device I believe, and most Streak users would bashed me for saying as an antiquated device ).
Anyway again, It's not much but just a personal choice or preference on why most people have jump ship to ride on the S3 hype.. I truly believe, given the size comparison alone, My Note is still a strong contender in any given smartphone field.
People can be superficial nowadays... all want to catch on what's in and what's the latest... some are in just for the heck of it.. and mostly are for JUST THE HYPE of it.
It's cool to brag along nowadays.. when you got the latest quad-core phone.
Personally I don't give a damn about people going overboard to the S3.. I am fully contented with my Note and what it can bring to my needs.
and you know what?
I gotta tell you, I went to a pub last week, there was this moron who was brandishing and showing off on how cool his S3 was.. He showed to a lot of guys inside, how smart his phone is, he toyed around, savoring the delights of the dudes there, playing games, using his SMART STAY and his POP PLAY... I can clearly see he was getting a lot of Ohhss and ahhs.. from the crowd....
hmm.. so what did I do? hmmm, nothing.. I sat beside him, popup my NOTE and played POP UP video and open up my POP Browser and played youtube video inside it. I then drag the two apps side by side on my phone.
Conclusion? Nothing.. the poor bud (upon seeing my Note playing those videos) literally just walk out of the club!!
So again, there's no shame having this massive phone with massive capabilities and features.
It can par up with dem quad-core joes.. ANY TIME OF DAY.... yeah!!.
Note rocks and Samsung knows it.
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Yes I also feel like the note was a stepping stone. Some tried to claim that the note was the s3.
carbonassassin, could you please consider resizing your signature. It literally takes up half the screen. Just a polite request. sorry if I come across as rude.
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carbonassassin, could you please consider resizing your signature. It literally takes up half the screen and is a bit much.
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Will do
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Any phone is a stepping stone.
Galaxy Note @ mobile
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Does anyone else here feel like the note was just a temporary stepping stone before the s3? I mean support from Samsung about the notes black crush and emmc issue have been ignored, most of the devs have jumped ship (not that I blame them) but I just feel that in half a year the notes dev community is going to start grinding to a halt :/ its sad because its a wonderful device and I love it but it just seems to have been moved on from so quickly by everyone. I mean look at the amount gb dev for this device! ICS comes along finally and not much has been done to it because people have moved on. Its a real shame :/
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-1. sorry to say- S3 can not tale the place of G.Note, may be Note 2 and mostly Note 3 overtake.
is that true there there's less development for the Note now? So you mean I gotta go buy the Note 2 now to keep up? No SGS3 for me, it's WAY too small.
Café King said:
I love my Note, probably the best device I've ever had... But I wish there were some kernels with bln! It really annoys me...
/CK
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Yes I think you will have to move to note 2 as very soon Dev's for note will cease
If you want the best support, get a Nexus device.
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It is called technology. All things in technology are so called as "stepping stone".
If there's no new products, means, technology go stagnant...
Means, developers are dead. No fantasy, no imagination, no development.
I like android, whereby the development is super fast. I thought I was just changing from froyo. Now we are on ICS alrd.
next will be Jellybean ? after that ? Will samsung stop the android, and move to Tizen ?
And it's a good strategy to use opensource like android, whereby, the software development can be just leave it to all developers. And manufacturers like samsung, htc, etc just concentrate on developing new products, and tease the end-users.
But, as a developers (programmers), just be frank... will you stay on old "toys" when the new "toys" are coming out ?
From what I know (since I'm a programmer also), I like to play with new toys. And if the new toys is much better, why not keeping on developing the new one ? As the old one, I will keep on maintain... But only when I can spare my time.
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I don't see it as a stepping stone but more of a test run.
The phablet market was completely open and unknown. So Samsung being the crazy adventurer they are decided to step in and "give it a shot".
If results were good, they would release a bigger and better one and give that one more support.
If it failed then, meh.
Clearly it hasn't failed hence the upcoming release of Note 2.
I agree that we lack a large range of developers, as compared to more popular devices like the S2 or the Nexus, but because this is just like a "trial" I'm sure as the phablet category gets more popular the Note 2 will attract more incredible developers.
What is the most valuable advantage of android that makes it better than Apple's crap?
Guys, Wasn't it "Removable Battery" and "External Memory" ?
I really dont want to have freaking Energizer with Line connected to N4,
or get OTG connecter which should also plug into USB input to use more space for video,music and many other things.
I'm not that guys who use Google Cloud each time I watch movies, play games with extreme graphic, or read article from googling shi*
by expensive cellular data or non-removable battery(And I(probably most of you) have no patience enough to sit back, waiting for downloading these through fixed WiFi)
If you wanna buy a good, clear screen and high performance and something something.. than you should think about HTC Droid DNA or Sony Yuga which is going to be released soon.
N4 doesn't fit to the "Highest" Performance or Quality,
The advantage being reference phone is already gone
And you guys already know, "The changes from ICS to Jellybean 4.2" is not much improvement
And there's Tizen2.0, and Windows 8 which comes with DirectX and many their own API ;which are great
Tizen2.0 will be released in next year, and it's fully capable to use android apk SAME(performance and something something~)
The demerits using Dalvik is enough to object to many high-end device based on android
The bottom line is very simple.
No sdcard slot, and non-removable battery? Not a iPhone?
No Thanks.
Besides, it's the LG, geez..
PS. Sorry for my bad english.
Then don't buy it...
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Lol
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Creates an account to blast a phone that sold out in minutes, worldwide.
Let's just cut to the chase and close the thread.
Okay that's nice.
Now gtfo from n4 section plox? Kthxbye!
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This was posted in Q&A... so what's the question? All the questions in the OP are either rhetorical or are answered by you, so I don't understand the purpose of this post. Its fine that you have the opinion that the phone is not very good (I would disagree but that my opinion), but there is no need for this rant post really in Q&A. Just clogs things up.
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This was posted in Q&A... so what's the question? All the questions in the OP are either rhetorical or are answered by you, so I don't understand the purpose of this post. Its fine that you have the opinion that the phone is not very good (I would disagree but that my opinion), but there is no need for this rant post really in Q&A. Just clogs things up.
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Sorry it's my fault it was a mistake
OK ... So buy a iPhone dude or buy the DNA and wait 6 months for updates to fix the simplest problems
Sell your nexus to someone here who is dying to have one
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lol he made an account just to post that
LOL so wait... wait a minute.
You actually made and XDA account...
To rant on the Nexus 4...
In the Nexus 4 Forum...
And your telling us that...
We should buy other phones?...
Thats like telling somebody to buy a different house because it doesn't reach YOUR PERSONAL CRITERIA.
We all don't use the same device like YOU dude.
Hop off the forums!
What's up with all this N4 hate recently? I understand people feel the need to go against whatever succeeds, but I got my phone last week and let me be clear for anyone who is having doubts. THIS PHONE IS AMAZING! Beautiful, high quality, packed with features, vanilla android, and ridiculously fast! I could easily waste an hour or so on here typing all about this phone, but I will leave you with that. Have fun XDA! and stop with all the arbitrary negativity. :highfive:
Well EXIT stage left then
I think you should go buy an iPhone. You have no idea what Android is, or why we love it!
ImARaptor said:
What's up with all this N4 hate recently? I understand people feel the need to go against whatever succeeds, but I got my phone last week and let me be clear for anyone who is having doubts. THIS PHONE IS AMAZING! Beautiful, high quality, packed with features, vanilla android, and ridiculously fast! I could easily waste an hour or so on here typing all about this phone, but I will leave you with that. Have fun XDA! and stop with all the arbitrary negativity. :highfive:
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It's happens every time a phone gets released - People like to *****
It's so nice to everyone have the same (and best) response to the troll and no one trying to argue with him.
Relponent said:
What is the most valuable advantage of android that makes it better than Apple's crap?
Guys, Wasn't it "Removable Battery" and "External Memory" ?
I really dont want to have freaking Energizer with Line connected to N4,
or get OTG connecter which should also plug into USB input to use more space for video,music and many other things.
I'm not that guys who use Google Cloud each time I watch movies, play games with extreme graphic, or read article from googling shi*
by expensive cellular data or non-removable battery(And I(probably most of you) have no patience enough to sit back, waiting for downloading these through fixed WiFi)
If you wanna buy a good, clear screen and high performance and something something.. than you should think about HTC Droid DNA or Sony Yuga which is going to be released soon.
N4 doesn't fit to the "Highest" Performance or Quality,
The advantage being reference phone is already gone
And you guys already know, "The changes from ICS to Jellybean 4.2" is not much improvement
And there's Tizen2.0, and Windows 8 which comes with DirectX and many their own API ;which are great
Tizen2.0 will be released in next year, and it's fully capable to use android apk SAME(performance and something something~)
The demerits using Dalvik is enough to object to many high-end device based on android
The bottom line is very simple.
No sdcard slot, and non-removable battery? Not a iPhone?
No Thanks.
Besides, it's the LG, geez..
PS. Sorry for my bad english.
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1. You have NO idea why we love android.
2. The DNA doesn't have a removable battery or an SD card slot either genius and read any review, the DNA screen is 1080p but its unanimously seen as a worse screen than the screen found on the One X. Good job.
3. THIS phone is awesome BECAUSE "we" don't have to worry about any overlay like Sense or TouchWiz.
4. Insanely cheap OFF contract.
5. Premium feel and hardware (albeit a little z little slippery)
6. Updates DIRECT from Google.
These are why "we" got an N4...now go post in the Note 2 thread and complain how you think its worse than a Palm Pilot.
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I agree wholeheartedly with the opinion voiced in the OP.....
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Said no one ever.
I think I'm going to go ahead and report this thread. It should be closed lol XD
ImARaptor said:
What's up with all this N4 hate recently? I understand people feel the need to go against whatever succeeds, but I got my phone last week and let me be clear for anyone who is having doubts. THIS PHONE IS AMAZING! Beautiful, high quality, packed with features, vanilla android, and ridiculously fast! I could easily waste an hour or so on here typing all about this phone, but I will leave you with that. Have fun XDA! and stop with all the arbitrary negativity. :highfive:
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Because they want to dissuade people from buying it so they have a shot of getting one in the next round.
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I sense butthurt. It's OK.
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Cool story bro
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