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I really want a tablet mostly just for leisure entertainment at the house but also possibly for school work or something. I want an Android tablet because Android is the way to go but for me I like to have the absolute best of the best that's out on the market... I see all kinds of complaints on here about this tablet but as far as I am aware there is not really that great of an Android alternative as powerful as the Nexus 10.
But what I really don't want to happen is for me to buy this tablet for $500+ and then it either not be as good as I want it to be or it to be usurped in a couple months by something far better... So to y'all who own one would you think it's still worth it at this point in time to pick one up? Most likely this summer probably but maybe sooner. Thanks in advance
I bought my N10 about a month ago and I absolutely love it. Out of the Box power it on it updates straight to the Latest build of Jellybean 4.2.2.
The Display and graphics are amazing.
The Battery life is fantastic. (Think Energizer bunny)
The CPU is fast and very fluid.
The only downside in my opinion is 16 & 32 gig. That's it. No SD card slot to upgrade. Though there are ways around that off course. (USB OTB)
The latest update also reserves 385-400mb from ram to GPU. That leaves it with about 1.2gigs of ram which is still decent. No biggie.
Overall I love my N10 and it can only get better with updates and time.
Plus you will always be one of the first to get the latest updates.
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I really want a tablet mostly just for leisure entertainment at the house but also possibly for school work or something. I want an Android tablet because Android is the way to go but for me I like to have the absolute best of the best that's out on the market... I see all kinds of complaints on here about this tablet but as far as I am aware there is not really that great of an Android alternative as powerful as the Nexus 10.
But what I really don't want to happen is for me to buy this tablet for + and then it either not be as good as I want it to be or it to be usurped in a couple months by something far better... So to y'all who own one would you think it's still worth it at this point in time to pick one up? Most likely this summer probably but maybe sooner. Thanks in advance
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Hi, I'm in the same situation as you are. I think I will wait for the next generation of Nexus 10.
Furthermore, I wouldn't go for any other not-Nexus tablet because of the updates directly from Google.
It s a nice tablet if you are lucky to get one without problems . battery and bleeding screen
It a lottery ...
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I starting using iPhone cause all my previous android phones has disappointed me with lags and memory problem(Xperia X10, HTC Incredible, HTC chacha, Xperia Arc)
I just got a N10, pretty smooth, barely had any lags, memory is more than sufficient. Love it!! Get the N10!!!
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MrSteez said:
I really want a tablet mostly just for leisure entertainment at the house but also possibly for school work or something. I want an Android tablet because Android is the way to go but for me I like to have the absolute best of the best that's out on the market... I see all kinds of complaints on here about this tablet but as far as I am aware there is not really that great of an Android alternative as powerful as the Nexus 10.
But what I really don't want to happen is for me to buy this tablet for $500+ and then it either not be as good as I want it to be or it to be usurped in a couple months by something far better... So to y'all who own one would you think it's still worth it at this point in time to pick one up? Most likely this summer probably but maybe sooner. Thanks in advance
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I also bought the tablet in the last month. I bought mine used off ebay for 440 with a case (compared to the 550 shipped cost from google). It is about to be usurped in the next few months... Tegra 4 as a chipset will lay waste to the tablet on speed. Exnos 5 quad (or 8 core as they call it) will be 30+% faster. Snapdragon 600/800 will also be faster.
Unfortunately, nobody has announced a tablet of note this year so far. I'd expect the Vizio CES tablet to be the standard of Summer 2013 tablets. This means similiar screen resolution (but possibly higher quality) and faster processor.
If I were a financier or economist, I'd question whether owning this tablet for the next 3-6 months is worth the depreciation the tablet will take when newer tablets are released. Questions like "Would I pay an extra $150 to upgrade s Nexus 10 to have SD and Tegra 4 but much slower official updates." If your answer is yes, then the question becomes this... given the new high-end tablet will always be 500, how much would I pay for a Nexus 10 32gb if I plan to sell it this summer for 350 to upgrade. If you wouldn't pay $150 more for Tegra 4 + sd - Nexus updates... then getting the Nexus 10 is a question of do I want to pay today's price and start using it today or would I rather pay tomorrow's price's.
I absolutely love mine, but i'll struggle with myself when they make a refresh, I know in advance I'll be craving it. Still, it's an amazing piece of kit and I use it every day to watch stuff and take notes in class.
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I also bought the tablet in the last month. I bought mine used off ebay for 440 with a case (compared to the 550 shipped cost from google). It is about to be usurped in the next few months... Tegra 4 as a chipset will lay waste to the tablet on speed. Exnos 5 quad (or 8 core as they call it) will be 30+% faster. Snapdragon 600/800 will also be faster.
Unfortunately, nobody has announced a tablet of note this year so far. I'd expect the Vizio CES tablet to be the standard of Summer 2013 tablets. This means similiar screen resolution (but possibly higher quality) and faster processor.
If I were a financier or economist, I'd question whether owning this tablet for the next 3-6 months is worth the depreciation the tablet will take when newer tablets are released. Questions like "Would I pay an extra $150 to upgrade s Nexus 10 to have SD and Tegra 4 but much slower official updates." If your answer is yes, then the question becomes this... given the new high-end tablet will always be 500, how much would I pay for a Nexus 10 32gb if I plan to sell it this summer for 350 to upgrade. If you wouldn't pay $150 more for Tegra 4 + sd - Nexus updates... then getting the Nexus 10 is a question of do I want to pay today's price and start using it today or would I rather pay tomorrow's price's.
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Doesnt matter , the nexus 10 will have the fastest GPU available on the exynos line , sgx544mp3 on the Exynos Octa is weaker than the MALI T-604 on the N10 by atleast 20% , Only the 'New' Ipad with its SGX554 MP4 has a faster GPU .
So go ahead and Buy one . Performance is only going to improve with time, since most of the things cannot take advantage of the the A15 architecture on the exynos. The only thing that will destroy the T604 is T678 , that is a monster. But it will only see the light of day in Q4 2013 on consumer products during holiday season .
So you still have the bragging rights for atleast six months.
And Dont forget the screen resolution , that right stays with you for atleast a year , because anything higher (4k) would kill in the battery in a couple of hours.
Screen is mind blowing. I've had every high end android tablet and iPad available and this tablet smokes them all (including the Note 10.1)
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Lets just say you'll puke a little upon seeing a low res screen. But in all seriousness this is the best Android tablet on the market.
I was sold for the N10, but never went through with it because of all of the issues most users here were complaining about. Tbh I'm no longer considering on buying it, I think I rather wait for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 and it's probably going to be better than the N10, don't get wrong though N10 is still king of android 10 inches tablets imo.
I just bought my nexus 10 3 days ago and i absolutely love it!
Best purchase i have made since the original galaxy note. The tablet is perfect for me. Excellent size, amazing screen, and sickeningly fast. I too was extremely worried about all the problems considered by reading through some of the various threads here. went ahead with the purchase anyway and i am so glad i did. This is my first nexus device and i am likely to never leave the brand in the future at least for tablets. Very content with my purchase.
Also very excited to receive OS updates as soon as available from now on.
So I recently had and Acer Iconia A100 die and need to replace it. Due to budget constraints I'm choosing between the Galaxy Tab 2 and the Nexus 7.
I'm familiar with the spec differences but I can't pull the trigger on one or the other. Any N7 users want to convince me? Let me know your thoughts... positive and negative...
oh god please dont buy the Galaxy tab 2 the nexus 7 is so much better i know this because i have used the both over lenghtly periods and the tab 2 is just annoying with how glitchy and slow it is
Honestly, get the Galaxy Tab 2, because if one more person asks this question I'm going to flip.
You obviously already made up your mind to get the Nexus 7.
Whatever you do DON'T buy Galaxy Tab 2 they lag as hell, rather buy Galaxy Note 10 inch or 8 inch.
But if you're still unsure then flip a coin, you will know which choice to make when you realize which side you hope it lands on.
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Hes is right. Get the galaxy tab.
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Yet you sold yours, and now have an N7?
Hreidmar said:
Whatever you do DON'T buy Galaxy Tab 2 they lag as hell, rather buy Galaxy Note 10 inch or 8 inch.
But if you're still unsure then flip a coin, you will know which choice to make when you realize which side you hope it lands on.
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2 votes for lag on the GT2... thank you
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Honestly, get the Galaxy Tab 2, because if one more person asks this question I'm going to flip.
You obviously already made up your mind to get the Nexus 7.
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Why do you say that? I've posted in both forums to try to get input from users of both. Is there anything you don't like about the N7?
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oh god please dont buy the Galaxy tab 2 the nexus 7 is so much better i know this because i have used the both over lenghtly periods and the tab 2 is just annoying with how glitchy and slow it is
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very helpful. Thank you
I only have some experience with playing with the Tab 2 WiFi version at WorseBuy. If you buy the Galaxy Tab 2 7", you will retain two things from your A100: the non-HD screen and the proprietary charging port. The 720p screen on the Nexus 7 makes a huge difference in usage, especially texts will be sharper and easier to read. Having a standard microUSB port is a huge plus because the cable is cheap so you can charge the device anywhere.
In term of performance, the Nexus 7 will be far faster with it's Tegra3. The Tab 2 7" have a TI OMAP dual core 1GHz, my Galaxy Nexus have the same CPU brand, but a faster model clocked at 1.2GHz and the same outdated PowerVR SGX540 GPU. I can tell you the Nexus 7 is a much smoother and lag free experience than the Galaxy Nexus and will handle 3D games much better. I know benchmark don't mean alot to some people, but this should give you an idea: Tab 2 7", Nexus 7. PS. I have heard people complaining about lags on the Nexus 7, well... I simply don't have it.
Where the Tab 2 win is the 3G version can make direct phone calls which the Nexus 7 3G can't, but it also cost more than the Nexus 7 3G. Of course, you already know it have microSD slot, back camera, and you can get an HDMI adapter, which is overpriced imo ($40) and will add to the cost of the tablet. The Nexus 7 doesn't have any form of HDMI out which sucks.
The most important factor for me is the software, and what follows might be a cliche thing you will hear in a Nexus forum. With a Nexus device you will get latest Android updates from Google and a larger developing community. As for the Tab 2, Samsung said 4.2.2 will be the last update and even with custom roms there aren't a lot of developers working on it. Despite what I said above, if the Nexus 7 only had the Tab 2 specs, and vice versa, I would still get the Nexus 7 because the benefits of AOSP, Google updates and many custom rom developers which makes a big difference in long term value.
You can also look at the Asus Memo Pad 10 if you don't mind going with a 10" tablet which is a good budget tablet. The text isn't sharp in 720p resolution on a 10" screen. However it has lots good benefits the Nexus 7 doesn't have, such as dedicated microHDMI out, USB OTG out of the box (no root needed), microSD slot, back camera, and Tegra3 chip as well. Also unlike the Transformer tablets, it have standard microUSB port. I had to return it because the digitizer on my unit went haywire and I didn't know how soon it will get CyanogenMod support.
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I only have some experience with playing with the WiFi version at WorseBuy. If you buy the Galaxy Tab 2 7", you will retain two things from your A100: the non-HD screen and the proprietary charging port. The 720p screen on the Nexus 7 makes a huge difference in usage, especially texts will be sharper and easier to read. Having a standard microUSB port is a huge plus because the cable is cheap so you can charge the device anywhere.
In term of performance, the Nexus 7 will be far faster with it's Tegra3. The Tab 2 7" have a TI OMAP dual core 1GHz, my Galaxy Nexus have the same CPU brand, but a faster model clocked at 1.2GHz and the same outdated PowerVR SGX540 GPU. I can tell you the Nexus 7 is a much smoother and lag free experience than the Galaxy Nexus and will handle 3D games much better. I know benchmark don't mean alot to some people, but this should give you an idea: Tab 2 7", Nexus 7. PS. I have heard people complaining about lags on the Nexus 7, well... I simply don't have it.
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Thanks very much for that, pretty much covers it all.
I'm really not worried about the lack of an SD card on the N7, I think I can live on 16GB. The lack of a rear camera worries me a little but I think the performance and Android support are winning me over.
Thanks again
N7 is still best value currently.
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The Galaxy Tab is pretty slow.
PS - Buy whatever you want. Not to sound rude, but no one here really cares what you spend your money on.
ynrozturk said:
The Galaxy Tab is pretty slow.
PS - Buy whatever you want. Not to sound rude, but no one here really cares what you spend your money on.
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Lol. He just needed our opinion on which device is better.
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Get the tab because I would never use a nexus 7 in a million years!!
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Which tablet?
I have an Nexus 7, and i shouldn't know why it is bad. It's a fast and easy to use tablet. Very smooth. It's cheaper than the galaxy tab. But galaxy tab is not bad.... It depends on what you are planning to do with it.
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Get the tab because I would never use a nexus 7 in a million years!!
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Funny you should say that.
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Walmart no name brand tablet!
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Buy a gameboy.
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You get what you pay for ..
IF it where not from you saying you have a very limited budget i would say with no doubt. Get a Galaxy Note . I have the nexus 7 and Note 10.1 . when im home The Nexus sits on its charger. When im out it goes with me because it fits in my purse. But lately i have been keeping the note under my arm when i go out. I love the Multi window Cascade/ Dual screen mode. You can Run up to 20 apps at one time. Most do not suspend while having another app in action such as hand writing a note on the wacom digitize r . For school or real work productivity . Price verses performance . There is not a tablet on the planet better then the Note.
Now the nexus 7 is the fastest slim sleek device for on the go use. I could never mount my note to the dash to use as a gps. It will NOT fit in my purse It uses a propritary charging port
My Conclusion is a Note 8 might be the best of both worlds. I just cant see spending the 400.00 for one when i have a awesome 7 inch Nexus 7 and a mind blowing Productive Galaxy note 10.1 ..
Maybe think about how you will pack it around .. Portability goes a very long way ..
I just sold my 8gb GT2 7" and I have a 16gb and 32gb N7. I wanted to like the Samsung more, as I usually enjoy their products and don't find Touchwiz as horrible as everyone says... BUT, the GT2 7" had to be the worst tablet I've ever used from a lag perspective. I don't know if it effects all sizes or just the 8gb but you cannot escape it. The stock rom is horribly slow and the various popular roms only help a bit. It reminded me of my old Android phones from 3 or 4 years ago in that you had to reboot it daily as it would slow down over time. My OG Samsung GTP7510 10" i/o tab is faster and a year older.
The N7 was had zero of these issues. Now saying that, the N7 has some cosmetic and power on issues that continually plague many people including me. But, when it's working it's a better tablet.
If you have the money buy a Note 8.0
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I really wanna get the transformer pad infinity. But I still love my N7!
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hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
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hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
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Can you think of anything the octa core processor can run that the quad core can't? How much is a cell phone camera worth to you? Are you looking to take professional grade photos with a phone? Which device has a better chance of running stock android? I would go with the nexus.
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Man I'm from Brazil too, and I did it, sold my gnexus for R$ 750 and by my Nexus 4. Is perfect I recommend!
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I would go for the Nexus. The Octa in the S4 can only run 4 cores at a time, so it isn't a true octa core processor, its a BIG.little chip. If you have the chance to get an HTC One, then I would go for that for the build quality
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so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more..
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It depends on how much you value the camera and storage of the GS4 but overall I'd say no, the GS4 isn't worth $243 more.
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
leandronb said:
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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rayiskon said:
I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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But can you give me a valid real world situation where the Snapdragon 800 would make normal usage better? Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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There is already a system dump, that's where the info about the camera came from. Also evleaks already leaked detailed photos of the device. It's also going to be water and dustproof (not resistant, proof).
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Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
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Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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Agreed!
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i think sd800 is like buying a i7 3770k and a gtx titan when just an i5 3570k and a 660ti can run any game or app.
i will buy today n4, too bad the black color sold out i will take the white one. thank you guys.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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You're comparing a SoC to a phone as a whole?
If you take a wider look, running a 1080p display, a bigger camera sensor, not to mention the low level software tweaking and optimizations like project butter and other under the hood ones, etc.. requires a lot of processing power.
And with your logic, we don't need 1080p displays, or camera hardware similar to that in p&s ones, it's all overkill.
Did you know that the n4 gives a higher fps result when playing games than an s4 ? It just tells you that the s600 is not capable of pushing all those pixels and maintaining the same fluidity as it would on 720p.
Snapdragon800 is in no way an overkill to mobile devices, it's just a result of the evolution of technology. Other hardware parts are also evolving.
And p.s. s800 supports usb 3.0 , but why would anyone want faster data transfer rates, it's all overkill !
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Definitely the N4, even though S4 has a system dump already for the 4.3, Nexus devices will have it eventually.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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ok, i think i get your point now. i respect your opinion, but i don't agree with it (and that's cool).
1080p is actually quite beautiful when you have a big display (5") and no on screen buttons eating up space. watching a youtube video on full HD is really nice, the sharpness and color distribution also (noticeable when comparing both pentile on s3 and s4).
Anyways, all i wanted to say in my first post is that it's July already, and that a new generation of SoC is coming, and it's gonna be a pretty big upgrade. furthermore, we're all expecting a new nexus in Q4 right? i'm pretty sure we're gonna see an s800 in there, and hopefully Google will keep it's pricing strategy. i think a 3 months wait (till Oct/Nov) is worth it, i'm pretty sure OP's galaxy nexus could live that long, it's not that he has a low end device.
just to add one more thought, i'm aware that my nexus 4 will be more than capable to run ubuntu for android for example, but i'm pretty sure a nexus with an s800 would be even more capable. Or maybe i'm the only one getting excited about turning my phone into a dockable remote PC
Hey guys,
satisfied N7000 user here wondering if you would recommend to upgrade or not?
I could probably sell my N7000 for 200€ and N9005 would probably cost about 550 - 600€ without contract.
Thats about 3 times as much as the n7000 is worth right now - (if I'm lucky to find a buyer) and I got a bunch of add ons for my N7000 like an extra battery, couple of cases, screen protector, second spen (which I'm never using though) and carmount which probably would cost another 20 - 50€ to replace.
I mean I could afford it and would surely enjoy it, but actually I'm still kinda satisfied with my N7000 and hardly run into any problems. But I'm also not gaming much on the phone.
And then there is this BS with sim region locks, rom region locks (and if you dont flash the right one you have a softbrick?) and the KNOX fuse crap.
What pisses me off though with my N7000 is that there won't be any more official updates (maybe 4.2 or 4.3 - but I dont think so) and with Exynos chip tv out does not work on CM based roms.
Tough decision - actually after this exynos source problems I didn't want to buy samsung anymore - but now they offer the note 3 with snapdragon it got my attention yet again lol.. arghhhh I probably should buy a real tablet as addition I guess - or some newer Notebook/Ultrabook rather than to upgrade a perfectly fine phone right? (I don't even use the spen much, I just love the big screen of the notes and the possibilty to use the pen if I want to hehe - well actually it makes certain things easier and I use it for that off course - but I don't write much notes or smth..)
First world problems...
P.S.: Aww f*ck it would be stupid to upgrade if I'm satisfied with my N7000 still.. and the difference is not THAT great yet I'm sure. I'll maybe get the new Note Tablet instead, but they should finally make 12"+ tablets (with ubuntu for android too off course....if that ever gets released..)
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satisfied N7000 user here wondering if you would recommend to upgrade or not?
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P.S.: Aww f*ck it would be stupid to upgrade if I'm satisfied with my N7000 still.. and the difference is not THAT great yet I'm sure. I'll maybe get the new Note Tablet instead, but they should finally make 12"+ tablets (with ubuntu for android too off course....if that ever gets released..)
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Like every decision we all make, it depends....
Major upgrades from N1 to N3 are
1. 1280 x 800 (~285 ppi) display to 1920 x 1080 (~386 ppi)
2. 2 GB RAM to 3 GB
3. Exynos Dual 1.4 GHz to S800 Quad 2.3 GHz or Exynos Octa 1.9/1.3 GHz
4. 8 MP Camera to 13 MP
Everything's just bigger, faster, and better. If you want the latest and greatest, you can't really go wrong with an N3 right now. If you don't mind not living on the cutting edge, and just want something adequately usable, stay with the N1. The choice is up to you.
I had the note 2 and upgraded to note 3.
I have bought it without to consider, because I want to give the note 2 to my girlfriend.
This was the best idea I ever had
I would never have thought
it is so much better
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Xdad_0001 said:
Like every decision we all make, it depends....
Major upgrades from N1 to N3 are
1. 1280 x 800 (~285 ppi) display to 1920 x 1080 (~386 ppi)
2. 2 GB RAM to 3 GB
3. Exynos Dual 1.4 GHz to S800 Quad 2.3 GHz or Exynos Octa 1.9/1.3 GHz
4. 8 MP Camera to 13 MP
Everything's just bigger, faster, and better. If you want the latest and greatest, you can't really go wrong with an N3 right now. If you don't mind not living on the cutting edge, and just want something adequately usable, stay with the N1. The choice is up to you.
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The N7000 has 1GB RAM only.
I got exynos note 3 over my note 1 and difference is day and night.
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ahh yea lol I was in a retail store today to check out the new note.
It really feels different, although I only used it for a moment, the spen was soooo much more accurate that I could actually see me using it on the Note 3. And that metallic looking front and the slightly slimmer screen etc. really felt nice.
I guess I will see if i get my Note 1 sold for an acceptable price.... (only paid 300€ for it after selling my S9000 for 200€ so that upgrade for 100€ was nice!! I guess the update now wouldnt be as big of a step but with a heftier price tag? 200 to lets say 550 .. 350€ - for that price I can get a tablet (which I don't yet own, but actually don't really need I think - rather a new laptop or desktop pc if no phone upgrade - smth that you can actually work with..).
But the note 3 is soooo tempting, especially with the Snapdragon Processor ...
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Another thought: I actually dont use my phone for any heavyload things, mostly all I'm doin is browsing, listening to mp3s, using it as navigation gagdet, to remotely control my pc, and from time to time some minor games. (no heavy 3d, like asphalt or so, but rather strategy/thinking games or maybe fun games like worms or angry birds etc.)
Only the screen on time could really be better - in standby battery drains less than 1% per hour - but with screen on i can watch it drop so fast..
What I am really waiting for though is the possibilty to run a real desktop on my phone and carry my "pc" with me - something like ubuntu for android promise(d). Then I can see me actually needing more performance and even bigger battery, but when will manufacturers finally begin to embrace that idea? Any clue what happened to ubuntu for android for example - instead of releasing that they push out this ubuntu for phones crap..? I mean this is the logical next step in technology: Replace the big clunky computers with your smartphone, a Screen and an bluetooth keyboard etc.
Or is it already possible to have something like that? All those linux on android solutions work through vnc only as far as I understand, without any sound etc. Can you actually do anything useful with those setups yet?
The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase.
I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4, which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch count on its display , 2.3 ghz quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory.
Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase. I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4 which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch, 2.3 gig quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory. Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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What's the dev support like?
scottharris4 said:
What's the dev support like?
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Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
USBhost said:
Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
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Yeah I know, I developed a bunch of ROM's for it. Had to do blind tests since I don't have it.
scottharris4 said:
Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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It will mean that getting future custom ROMs could be potentially compromised because (1) Samsung may not release stuff that is needed for these ROMs, and (2) how many devs (which there aren't many to begin with) are going to want to keep putting in work to an "obsolete" device.
Anyone saying that other tablets are "comparable spec wise" either forgot about the 64-bit CPU or they are likely underestimating the effect it will have on performance. Unless you are considering a different tablet with either a Denver K1 or Snapdragon 810 there is probably no point in comparing it to the Nexus 9.
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
I even consider buying a iPad Mini 2 (only £329 for 32GB) given the iPad Mini 3 is not much of an upgrade to this and not worth buying.
But being a Nexus Fanboy, I'll probably will get a N9 and say Goodbye for my slow & laggy N10.
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iPad Air 2 16GB cost the same as a Nexus 9 32GB...
that's just too expensive
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What did you even expect from a new device coming out this late?
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
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You can always use OTG. I am almost always near a WiFi connection so I should be fine. I have a grandfathered Unlimited T-Mo plan without hotspot but I want to see if I can bypass that. All my media will be coming off my server computer and apps shouldn't be that much space.
Please do your home work on the nvidia shield tablet!!!
It has been known of self cracking corners! Plenty of customers on here, I was one of them!!! even with the second batch and LTE version
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Very poor WiFi!
And losses charge whilst on charge. Suss that one out?
I had one and sent it back after a week!
It could of been a very good tablet. But has some very big issues!
There are only a couple of very hard working devs over there as development stands.
But sadly the shield is a big flop. Really is a shame!!!!!!
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This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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For me it is bad. $399 screams highend and it should have had 32GB at that price point. But even that sounds bad. Should have been $300 for 16GB and $350 for 32GB.
Hate to bring up iPad's around here but a new retina mini cost $299 at 16GB. If you're not into rooting/hacking it looks pretty decent compared to these prices. Point being it won't take long for prices to drop on this new Nexus 9. I wouldn't be surprised to see these hit the refurb bins at $250 to $300 in 6 months. That's how I got my 2013 Nexus 7 for $130.
how about Xiaomi Mi pad?!
did u think about xiaomi's mi pad?! it has the same cpu and gpu. but at lower price.64 gb version is about 340$.also have the same size of Ipad mini2 and all the accessories of ipad mini2 fits to this one..from the Dev side of this tablet i dont know alot.but i know nvidia quickly turn behind to its cpu and products..i have htc one x..i waited a lot for some good games that never showed up!by the way i have ifive mini 3gs..i am very satisfied.. mi pad was my choice but i needed sim card slot so i bought this ifive.. Mi pad is a very good tablet..think about it :good:
I honestly believe that for what you get with the nexus 9 that it's going to be a decent deal.
I just bought a galaxy tab s 10.5 and am debating on buying the nexus 9 as my living room tablet.
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Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
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My Nexus 7 is still as smooth as the day I bought it