4.2 Update. Yes or No - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just received the notification on my Nexus 7 regarding the system update, however I am at a crossroads if I should do it or not as i am currently setup with Tablet UI (DPI 160), all my apps and icons are nice and tightly displayed using Apex launcher and with all the posts stating that you cannot revert the DPI back down once you upgrade i am not sure what to do. Any advise as to why I should upgrade would be helpful.
Thanks,
JBIRD

i would wait as yoou wont really be able to mount any external storage until this stickmount or the nexus 7 mount app gets updated to work in 4.2

I am going to wait untill all the apps I use get updated where I know they will work.No use in haveing a new update if nothing works that I want to use on it.
It took hbo over a month to get working on jelly bean and some apps still don't work.I will wait and see before screwing them up because some things might take a while.:laugh:

I say wait because:
- we didn't get miracast
- new issues with bluetooth, specifically bluetooth audio with wifi enabled/active. Bluetooth audio already had issues in android, now it's worse.
- multi user is no good. Other users can't access your apps, unless they already own them. Haven't tried this yet, but from what I read.
- camera app lost funny faces. Big mouth, small eyes etc. Yes it's gimicky but I've had friends' kids laugh their asses off while using this. Why remove it?
- I'm getting lag (sometimes) again, similar to the pre 4.1.2 issues. Not all users are getting this but I am.
I was initially excited about 4.2 but disappointed now, considering rolling back.

Also no tablet UI. Its completely ripped out. Back to phablet mode. I'm enjoying it though.
Also Apex crashes immediately. So I'm using the stock launcher and everything.
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no stickmount, widi and ad hoc support(if ever) yet. need app dev to catch up first.

player911 said:
Also no tablet UI. Its completely ripped out. Back to phablet mode. I'm enjoying it though.
Also Apex crashes immediately. So I'm using the stock launcher and everything.
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Apex running fine for me. Dirty flash from CleanRom. I just had to reset it as the default. I seem to recall someone had problems when they restored their launcher settings and that wiping data for Apex fixed the issue.
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I vote no. Too many glitches. Flashplayer stopped working. Panoramic mode in camera FCs camera app. I'm considering rolling back as well.

I also vote NO. Dolphin Browser won't start, Firefox crashes, cannot access Internet when tethered to my iPhone etc.

No, give it a week or so
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I also vote NO. Dolphin Browser won't start, Firefox crashes, cannot access Internet when tethered to my iPhone etc.

no, definitely NO! USB not working, development access required to stop Android sending every installed app back to Google, several more other apps not working (such as MX player...). No, no way, I will be switching from stock to something other with 4.1.2, because it is unusable this way...

Thanks everyone, appreciate the input. After this i am definitely going to wait

Stick mount is working fine for me. I'm able to use my USB storage
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tkelly0727 said:
Stick mount is working fine for me. I'm able to use my USB storage
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Hey tkelly,
You must be one of the lucky ones. I have been reading that the usb directories have changed due to the new instituted multi user option. Are you able to see the contents of your folder on various accounts you setup?
Thanks,
JBIRD

I just reverted back to 4.1.2 because of the issues in 4.2. I'll wait until things seem to be a bit better before I upgrade again.

Nope. Too much stuff broken with 3rd party apps. And its hot a slight case of the jitters. Project Butter seems to be on holiday.
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tkelly0727 said:
Stick mount is working fine for me. I'm able to use my USB storage.
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Can you fill the rest of us in on how to get Stickmount to work?

Well I don't have multi user ATM. But all I did was I rooted with wugfresh toolkit(sorry if I spelt it wrong). And the I just plug it in and it said USB mounted or what it normally says. Yeah I can veiw my files on it. I will try with muli user on and will report later
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Stick mount doesn't support multi user son only the primary user can use stick mount. And the the second user I had set up did not read USB storage. So its still working but only for primary user
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PromaneX said:
I just reverted back to 4.1.2 because of the issues in 4.2. I'll wait until things seem to be a bit better before I upgrade again.
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How can I revert back? This update is garbage
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ok...I'm officially bored. What tricks can I teach my N7?

So far I basically use this thing as a web browser, twitter reader and forum crawler.
Of course I rooted, themed, installed new kernels, bricked it, brought it back to life, and now I'm back to stock rooted.
So what else can this thing do? I bought a USB dongle thinger but I don't like watching movies on the small screen (I get headaches easy). Give me some ideas?
rudeguy said:
So far I basically use this thing as a web browser, twitter reader and forum crawler.
Of course I rooted, themed, installed new kernels, bricked it, brought it back to life, and now I'm back to stock rooted.
So what else can this thing do? I bought a USB dongle thinger but I don't like watching movies on the small screen (I get headaches easy). Give me some ideas?
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Frisbee?
rudeguy said:
So far I basically use this thing as a web browser, twitter reader and forum crawler.
Of course I rooted, themed, installed new kernels, bricked it, brought it back to life, and now I'm back to stock rooted.
So what else can this thing do? I bought a USB dongle thinger but I don't like watching movies on the small screen (I get headaches easy). Give me some ideas?
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Have you tried alternate ROMs? If not, I'd recommend Paranoid Android. It's smooth, fast, stable, and it allows you to choose between phone, phablet, and tablet mode for every app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800268
If PA isn't your style, try Slimbean or Cyanogenmod 10.
There are a lot of ROMs out there to mess around with.
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How about getting tablet mode by installing ROM Toolbox Lite and changing the DPI from 213dpi to 160dpi?
It's under Performance/build.prop.tweaks
You'll need to be rooted though.
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rudeguy said:
So far I basically use this thing as a web browser, twitter reader and forum crawler.
Of course I rooted, themed, installed new kernels, bricked it, brought it back to life, and now I'm back to stock rooted.
So what else can this thing do? I bought a USB dongle thinger but I don't like watching movies on the small screen (I get headaches easy). Give me some ideas?
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Games, news, geocaching (tether it to your phone via bluetooth), use it as a GPS on your bike/car if you have one (I use my phone for now, and you can cache the maps before hand too, so no data connection needed), control your DSLR camera if you have one, setup an andruino system/project and use the N7 as a remote, use it as universal remote in your home (friend is doing that w his Galaxy Tab 2 7"), etc.
Imagination is the limit.
ollie.olsson said:
Games, news, geocaching (tether it to your phone via bluetooth), use it as a GPS on your bike/car if you have one (I use my phone for now, and you can cache the maps before hand too, so no data connection needed), control your DSLR camera if you have one, setup an andruino system/project and use the N7 as a remote, use it as universal remote in your home (friend is doing that w his Galaxy Tab 2 7"), etc.
Imagination is the limit.
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Galaxy Tabs have IR transmitter to be a universal remote, N7 doesn't have it.
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Tablet mode. EOS Rom.
Emulators. Sixsxis.
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What more you expected from a tablet?
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DL source and experiment with it. Thats what Ive been doing. Learned how to add 720p video thanks to guy in dev and change nav bar height.
shook187 said:
What more you expected from a tablet?
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Breakfast in bed with a happy ending?
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Try productivity out. Ever note, Pocket Informant, etc
Also tablet SMS allows you to do all your texting via your tablet. Making this thing useful is all about how you use it.
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rudeguy said:
So far I basically use this thing as a web browser, twitter reader and forum crawler.
Of course I rooted, themed, installed new kernels, bricked it, brought it back to life, and now I'm back to stock rooted.
So what else can this thing do? I bought a USB dongle thinger but I don't like watching movies on the small screen (I get headaches easy). Give me some ideas?
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Buy tasker. You can spend hours figuring out awesome tasks to build.
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Buy tasker. You can spend hours figuring out awesome tasks to build. Not only that but you can package your tasks into an app from tasker app factory and sell them on the market.
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I don't know if you are into reading books, but ever since I got the N7, I've started downloading and reading ebooks (not through Google Books tho). Prior to that, the last time I actually read a fictional book was years ago. After I finish my current series, I'm thinking of downloading Wattpad.
xbmc and comic books
Install google currents....then it will get the paper for you
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Disappointed now
ExploreMN said:
Breakfast in bed with a happy ending?
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Hummmmmm . Well mine does not have Vibration feature .So well ahhh humm Yea not happening...
On topic You could always use your Nexus 7 to do some online shopping. Message me for my sizes and what i want.....
This should keep you busy for a life time. well at least the life of your credit cards..
Love your nexus Just in the correct ways.. :laugh:
Do a barrel roll.
Say "do a barrel roll" in Google Now
Install TeamViewer or another remote desktop app on your tablet and your PC, go to a country on the other side of the planet, log into your PC, and rearrange your desktop icons. Log out, go home.
Well, you did say you were bored...
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slick_rick said:
DL source and experiment with it. Thats what Ive been doing. Learned how to add 720p video thanks to guy in dev and change nav bar height.
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This. I bought the 7 because messing with my phone, which is a necessity, got annoying. Building Android will definitively keep you occupied, if not completely exhausted.
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[Q] Hybrid 4.1.2/4.2+ custom ROM?

Is there one that keeps the old mounting structure without the multi user support but has all the new 4.2+ stuff, espcially the gesture typing functionality? There is such a ROM for the Samsung Galaxy SII (Jellybam).
Reason I'm looking is that directory binding is currently not working on 4.2+ and it seems there won't be a fix anytime soon.
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In a word, no.
I'm not the lowest of the low, but I am the slowest of the slow.
You may be able to pull the keyboard apk from a 4.2 rom and run it on 4.1.2
But what mounting issue re you talking about? That was a problem for about 2 days before people figures out what was happening and twrp got updated
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Thanks, I could try that, I guess. Swiftkey Flow would also be an option now.
I mean binding internal to external directories. Yes, the mounting itself is not a problem, not with Stickmount 2.0+ anyhow. But the binding stopped working on 4.2+. I need the bindings for apps with lots of data - mainly large 3D games like Bard's Tale HD.
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Paranoid Android and screen mirroring aka Miracast

So I am running the last 3.60 paranoid android and I am having problems with getting a sony Kdl-70r550a to connect to it via screen mirroring that the tv has. I have already updated the TV firmware to the latest that was available. When it does connect, it displays what I can only describe as when an NES cartridge needed to be cleaned or wasn't in all the way. Basically weird blocky artifacts with only small bit of picture color showing.
I have tried changing screen resolution on my phone and even DPI to no avail. I have also tried using a Samsung s4 brand new out of the box, but being Samsung, gives registration failed when attempting to connect.
Sounds like some sort of copy protection. Try turning off hdcp.
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rogerski1 said:
Sounds like some sort of copy protection. Try turning off hdcp.
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This makes perfect sense and would explain it. Problem I have now is that I can only find "Hdcp checking" under developer options, after changing it to never use hdcp checking and trying again, still getting same issue. Any other setting I am missing to disable hdcp?
Flash cm10 there is an option to disable it
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OK, flashed back to CM10.1. Where is this option located?
Going to request PA to add the feature for disabling hdcp for next stable build.
StopSpazzing said:
OK, flashed back to CM10.1. Where is this option located?
Going to request PA to add the feature for disabling hdcp for next stable build.
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Settings ...display...wireless display
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Settings ...display...wireless display
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So I tried and tried and even with the hdcp handshake off gives a picture but its laggy and comes in and out. Has any else tried this with any other brand tvs? At this point I'm blaming Sony, as I know with external devices that support Miracast will work flawlessly. Guess an eventual firmware update may fix it. Buyer beware.
PS thanks for your help.

Are you still using your Q?

Is anyone still using their Q now that it's been completely abandoned by Google? If so, in what ways are you using it? I was hoping someone here would hack the Q, but it looks slim. Should I throw this thing away? I want to use this things amp!
gunsarebad said:
Is anyone still using their Q now that it's been completely abandoned by Google? If so, in what ways are you using it? I was hoping someone here would hack the Q, but it looks slim. Should I throw this thing away? I want to use this things amp!
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After they shut down the servers for setting them up, I quit using it. If you use cm 10. 2 with amp support and cheap cast its almost like it still works, but i haven't taken the time to put it on yet. There are guides. Don't trash it though. There are still people that will have uses for them as a desktop computer.
I haven't used mine in 6 months either but I am gonna dust it off and try to load 10.2 on it next week now that the hdmi and spidf are working. Does anyone know what keyboard and mouse combos work? I thought it was a Microsoft wireless 800 combo that I was using last time with wireless adb since there's only one USB.
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I just installed cm 10.1 using the method posted by user ianandamy. Works great and my input methods are a Microsoft wireless mouse with with an OTG cable connected to the Q, and I have a wireless Bluetooth keyboard. The only things I would like to see fixed are the primal LED lighting function, and a way of powering off the Q other than unplugging it.
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dts924s said:
I just installed cm 10.1 using the method posted by user ianandamy. Works great and my input methods are a Microsoft wireless mouse with with an OTG cable connected to the Q, and I have a wireless Bluetooth keyboard. The only things I would like to see fixed are the primal LED lighting function, and a way of powering off the Q other than unplugging it.
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yes I am using mine. I have an unfinished build loki gave me i will ask if i can post it once i verify how to set it up, i will use factory image but launch the laucher not the nexus home page which will enable apks to auto start on boot properly.
Does it allow it to run like a chromecast and stream media from the phone ? I miss my original q
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Actually found mine in the cupboard the other week, got it working thanks to a few forum posts here, running CM on it, using it as a quick XBMC streamer + android games console with a Moga BT joystick... works a treat.
darb said:
Does it allow it to run like a chromecast and stream media from the phone ? I miss my original q
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If you install CM on it and then install cheapcast, you can cast to it as if it was a chromecast.
since putting CM11 on this device it feels and works amazing!!
-full screen immersive mode
-transparency
-snappy
-play store works perfectly
If anyone is in the UK and willing to part with their Q, I'd love to make you an offer!
Just send me a PM

DISCUSSION ANDROID 4.4 kitkatā„¢

N7 and android 4.4 don't go together I am gonna revert what's ur idea?
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scorpio_K said:
N7 and android 4.4 don't go together I am gonna revert what's ur idea?
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They go together just fine.
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Been great in my N7 from the moment I sideloaded it, to today
How about describing type problem and actually being some help?
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They're a perfect match in my opinion. Just came from the old N7. Vast improvement over that for one. Only missed a few things, but root it add xposed mod, gravity box and touch control and sorted. One very happy camper ?
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I didnt notice any problems,. there was a significant improvement in the performance. the response time seem faster
No problem here. The system is running without issue with ART, as well.
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I bought the Nexus 7 LTE to take the place of my T-mobile hotspot. This update breaks the 2 reasons I use the hotspot for, wireless connectivity on the go when I need it for my laptop and native sms messaging. Both of these features are included in the service I pay T-mobile for on this account. Not only did Google disable these 2 features without notice in KitKat, but they don't acknowledge that they have or give a reason or resolution for the issue anywhere that I can find. I can't even find a way to contact Google directly to ask them a question about the issue with any guarantee that they will even read my questions, let alone answer them. Until this is resolved, I'm stuck on 4.3.1.
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I bought the Nexus 7 LTE to take the place of my T-mobile hotspot. This update breaks the 2 reasons I use the hotspot for, wireless connectivity on the go when I need it for my laptop and native sms messaging. Both of these features are included in the service I pay T-mobile for on this account. Not only did Google disable these 2 features without notice in KitKat, but they don't acknowledge that they have or give a reason or resolution for the issue anywhere that I can find. I can't even find a way to contact Google directly to ask them a question about the issue with any guarantee that they will even read my questions, let alone answer them. Until this is resolved, I'm stuck on 4.3.1.
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So you're saying that the 4.4/KRT16S update removed the option to tether with a T-Mobile SIM? Can anyone else confirm that? If that's true, that totally sucks. For people on AT&T, their tethering has been disabled from the start. I know for a fact that tethering still works with Verizon, though, even after the KitKat update. I'd love to know how carriers get their demands integrated into a carrier-free, SIM unlocked device like the Nexus 7, especially when no Nexus phone has ever disabled tethering. The Google Play Edition phones don't disable tethering either. This "selective disabling of tethering based on carrier" seems to be unique to tablets.
As for native SMS on a tablet, though, that's a feature very few people will miss because so few people would ever even think to do it in the first place. Tablets are designed by default to be data consumption devices, not giant phones. You probably won't find much sympathy on that one.
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I'm tying to understand why it should be different on theN7 from the N5 running Kitkat. I use my N5 on T-Mobile and the tethering works fine. I can't say I love Hangouts as the native SMS client but it does work for sms/mms. It should work on the N7. Hopefully someone might chip in who uses t mobile with their N7. You might want a thread title that is clearer what your issues are. The current title is unclear.
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As for native SMS on a tablet, though, that's a feature very few people will miss because so few people would ever even think to do it in the first place. Tablets are designed by default to be data consumption devices, not giant phones. You probably won't find much sympathy on that one.
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I don't need anyone's sympathy. As a matter of fact, there is already someone who has claimed a fix for the SMS problem in the LTE android development forum for the Nexus 7 (2013). So obviously there is sympathy. Just because you don't use a feature, don't make the assumption that others don't use it and find it useful.
Where ate they???
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Hmm , i missed the aosp browser so much , chrome was laggy and drain battery like hell
heorung said:
Hmm , i missed the aosp browser so much , chrome was laggy and drain battery like hell
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That's exactly why I reverted to CM10.2 a while back.
TBH I have yet to see one real benefit of KitKat, and the ASOP install issues with KK was a total deal breaker for me.
XPrivacy having issues with KK didn't help either.
Went back to 10.2 and now I'm extremely happy again!...
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Aosp browser is available at GPS.
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Having N 7 2013 root and TWRP recovery notification update in step 4.4 and came anyway. Now the question is: Can you do the same upgrade to the next version even though you have the terminal with root permissions? Thanks

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