So I, like a good amount of other people, installed 4.2 on my nexus 7. I was excited to try the multi-user feature. The tablet immediately became slow, to the point where the setup was stating it was unresponsive. If you hit wait, and waited it would continue. When I removed the 2nd user, the tablet was back it it's snappy self.
Has anyone else gotten this?
Actually I remember I had a few force closes when I added a second user, but it eventually sorted itself out and now everything works fine. This was from a fresh flash of the factory image so there was nothing conflicting from an upgrade from 4.1.2.
I flashed the factory images and didn't have any problems adding another user.
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I upgraded manually using the OTA zip, got the lag and slowdown as soon as I added a second user. Removed the user and the lash instantly disappeared.
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No problem here, added second user, logged with second user launched some apps...
Logged as myself, all is snappy as normal (I think the second users apps are still running ).
Mine was an ota upgrade and I had a bunch of lag for a few minutes after adding a second user, I had a force reboot too, bit now it's all good.
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Hey guys, I created two new users and now the third user doesn't have access to installed applications! any ideas?
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Hey guys, I created two new users and now the third user doesn't have access to installed applications! any ideas?
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That's how it's supposed to be
That's how it's supposed to be
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What do you mean? can you explain pls?
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What do you mean? can you explain pls?
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I've read here somewhere that you have to go to the Play Store, logged in as the 3rd user, and re-download the apps.
However the apps will not actually be re-installed but will become available to this user.
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I've read here somewhere that you have to go to the Play Store, logged in as the 3rd user, and re-download the apps.
However the apps will not actually be re-installed but will become available to this user.
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for some reason the first user I added for my friend had all of my applications already! which was logged in with my friend's Google account. But after him every user I added only had the system apps in their list. That is why I asked in here for help and couldn't understand what was going on.
At first I thought it is because of limitations of creating new users but when I removed all users added the first one again all of my apps were gone! so I think that was a bug or it was because I restored my apps using Titanium backup.
It's good to know that apps wont get installed again (actually)! I was worried about my space in my tablet.
Edit: to make myself clear when I say first user I mean the first non-owner user.
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What app/services are constantly running on your phone? Here's mine just after turning on the phone. Not sure why a lot of them are always running, but they are. I'm trying to determine what is normal.
Also, to those with an Exchange email account set up, is "Email" always running for you too?
Settings: Obviously. Check
ShootMe: Obviously. Check
Minimalistic Text: My clock widget: Check
Market: No reason why this should be running but it is
Google Services: Okay, makes sense. Check
Media: No reason for this to be running.
Email: I have it set to push, so no reason for this to be running
Android keyboard: Obviously. Check
Heres what i got running
Edit, even if i start other applications they dont really seem to pop up in running
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Heres what i got running
Edit, even if i start other applications they dont really seem to pop up in running
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Most of the stock Google apps close if you hit either the home button or the back button because they're smart, but many 3rd party apps will show if you exit them using the home button, because it puts them in the background instead of closing them.
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Most of the stock Google apps close if you hit either the home button or the back button because they're smart, but many 3rd party apps will show if you exit them using the home button, because it puts them in the background instead of closing them.
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I believe that some apps like games are set to completely close when you hit the home button,
but ya your right, just tried it with Pandora and it showed up..silly me
Possibly a coincidence, but I just got pushed a minor update of the Market (2.2.11, which I just updated in my earlier post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10613600#post10613600) and the "Market" process is gone. Maybe it was a memory leak they plugged.
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Possibly a coincidence, but I just got pushed a minor update of the Market (2.2.11, which I just updated in my earlier post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10613600#post10613600) and the "Market" process is gone. Maybe it was a memory leak they plugged.
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ya, i have yet to get any market update, and since i am currently not rooted i wouldnt be able to install the apk to /system so im kinda holding off for an official update to get pushed.
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ya, i have yet to get any market update, and since i am currently not rooted i wouldnt be able to install the apk to /system so im kinda holding off for an official update to get pushed.
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I'm not rooted and I installed the apk off of one of the threads on here. I didn't expect it to work because I tried it on my old wildfire when the new market was originally pushed out, which was rooted running cm 6. Give it a try, it may work for you.
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A lot of people don't understand how Android works. Just because an app is "running" and in memory doesn't mean it's doing anything to suck up resources.
In linux/android, the mantra is "free memory is wasted memory", and the OS does it's best to keep all but a minimal
Android loads up apps it thinks you'll use into any free memory so that they're there ready and waiting to do their thing when you call upon them.
Install a terminal app and run "top", you'll see that all those apps are just sitting there at 0% cpu usage. No harm, no foul.
Unlike older versions of the iPhone, which seems to be where most people I know think they need a task killer and that "running apps" are bad, Android's smart enough to kill off background/idle apps as needed.
The really ironic thing about all this is that a lot of people install and use a task killer to kill off apps in a futile attempt to free up memory without realizing that Android's just going to load up the app again, or something else in its place.
There are badly written apps that might go rogue once in a while and really do need to be killed off, but they're pretty rare in my experience.
I haven't used a task killer since Eclair, and really don't think it was necessary back then.
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I'm not rooted and I installed the apk off of one of the threads on here. I didn't expect it to work because I tried it on my old wildfire when the new market was originally pushed out, which was rooted running cm 6. Give it a try, it may work for you.
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Ya, neither am I, i just havent bothered to take the time and adb push it to my /system/ ...
I think that this is just a test rollout so maybe we will see mass release soon
All your running apps looks completely normal, android works differently. Often an app is open but not using any resources.
And if push email is enabled, why would you expect the email app to NOT show up as running? It would need to be if you have push enabled.
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Ya, neither am I, i just havent bothered to take the time and adb push it to my /system/ ...
I think that this is just a test rollout so maybe we will see mass release soon
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He meant literally open the apk on your phone and install it like a normal apk... Not adb push system...
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He meant literally open the apk on your phone and install it like a normal apk... Not adb push system...
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My market reverted back to the old version, how strange.
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Nothing is downloading. All I get is "This app will be downloaded to your device shortly."
I'm using Market 2.27.
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Nothing is downloading. All I get is "This app will be downloaded to your device shortly."
I'm using Market 2.27.
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you have to sign into google chat? or whatever its called... apparently? Thats what i read in the help part... :/
I'm always signed into Google Talk. It's the only IM client I use.
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Nothing is downloading. All I get is "This app will be downloaded to your device shortly."
I'm using Market 2.27.
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Samesies.
10char
Same here too. I'm wondering if it's related to being rooted. Total speculation, but a lot of the posters on the Google forum posting do mention custom ROMs.
Add your vote by staring this:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?hl=en&tid=656acfe72cdf8128
Is anyone 100% stock, never rooted, and having this problem? And is anyone rooted not having this problem?
The wife is using Fresh Rom on her Hero and it works perfectly...
I am rooted running MIUI and my download started within 5 seconds of clicking install in the browser.
I hadnt even thought of using this yet. Logged in, picked a random app, and it downloaded to my phone instantly on CM7.
No issues here. Running CM7#24 and market 2.2.11
Edit: awe crap, you said market website. Sorry. I was talking about market app. Still haven't tried the market website.
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I hadnt even thought of using this yet. Logged in, picked a random app, and it downloaded to my phone instantly on CM7.
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What kernel are you running? Any themes or anything else that could change something? Also what build are you using? When was the last time you flashed a Rom? What did you have for breakfast?
Sorry for the 10 million questions, but it would be cool if we could narrow down whats causing it.
I have the terrible "no device is associated" error
Was unable to download from the website with CM6 and market 2.2.7. Installed a market 2.2.11 zip...voila problem solved.
Using an unrroted Evo the downloads start almost instantly. It might be related to being rooted though...
The website worked for me on Myn's but not on CM7 nightly 23
Just tried and the market began downloading immediately.
Miui with stock kernel. Hw003.
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I have had this problem come up a few times and it seems to me there is something getting stuck, however once I turn on WIFI the programs stated downloading instantly, then after that it seems to come unstuck... I started having this problem when i turned off the Enable aways-on mobile data, to save battery. So I offer this as a solution only becuase it has worked for me... That is download it via Wifi to get it unstuck and then try it via 3G or 4G...
I wiped everything last night (for a few reasons, not just this), and it cleared up the problem for me. I'm still on myn RLS5, as I was before when it wasn't working.
I restored all my apps + data, and a handful of system data (Phone contacts, Browser data, and some other stuff).
One thought I had was that maybe Google Talk data needs to be cleared? I think that's related to how the downloads are pushed to the phone. I didn't try that before I wiped.
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Same thing I got when I tried it.
Edit: Interesting. After reading posts above, I installed Google Talk, which I never had before, logged into it, then went to the market website and now it recognizes my phone.
Downloads and installs fine on my mikfroyo Evo.
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If your on wifi try turning it off and download through 3g...
I can't believe google took away appbrains ability to do this even though they had it first. Not to mention their UI was much better looking and a lot smoother to use...
That's ridiculous. Easily on par with some of the ways apple has screwed its developers...
Hi,
I don't know if someone else found this problem. I made a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RS9j4uiTDaE. It's also in FullHD.
And wrote a post in my blog in my native language, spanish: http://retreteinformatico.blogspot.com/2012/01/touchwiz-40-y-problemas-con-la.html
The video description is english. I'll also explain the problem here:
Simply put, TouchWiz does not save the icons in the place where I leave them. At first I organized all of them in two screens: one with folders and the other with most frequently used icons. After doing a power on-off cycle the icons are all scattered without alphabetical order in three screens instead of two. The folders maintain their ordering and screen. An icon (AllShare) is put between two folders and the other icons are divided in two screens, disordered, not alphabetical.
In the video you'll see first what I found after the icon position screwing. Then I get three or four apps out of their folder (Google Talk, Gmail, Maps, Market) and put them with the rest of the icons and the AllShare app is put with the rest, out of the screen with the folders. Then I power off the phone and turn it on again to find that GTalk, Maps, Market and AllShare are out of their place.
After that, I put the icons more or less where I want to put them (in two screens) and I do again a power cycle to show how did TouchWiz screw my icon organization.
I'm using Android 2.3.4 XWIK4 with baseband XXKI1.
If someone is able to reproduce the problem just tell it. Maybe touchwizh has problems if you put in folders the Samsung apps (Hubs and more), I don't know, but it's a big problem.
Folder/Icon rearrangement is a known problem with TouchWiz since day 1 when SGS2 got released.
Best way to get around is to use AppSorter and sort your App Drawer everytime you create a folder.
Posting problems about 2.3.4 when everyone else is on 2.3.6 = VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS!
Update your phone and test it and give feedback!
Hmmm, I didn't know. How comes that Samsung hasn't fixed this in 8 monts?
This is ludicrous.
Beta is bad
Filiprino said:
Hmmm, I didn't know. How comes that Samsung hasn't fixed this in 8 monts?
This is ludicrous.
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Love the name of your blog: informatic toilet (retrete informatico) ahahah
Anyway: They suck on fixing bugs.. if we users and devs cant fix'em we are screwed lol
Also, why any reviewer spoted this problem? Add to this the Fujitsu camera module problem and you get the idea that QA on Samsung is really poor. Just remember the GPS problem on Samsung Galaxy S1.
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I didn't say to update to ICS beta... just update to XWKK5 and he should be alright!
Anyway i tried to do the same he did in my SGS2 and it keeps icons in their folders..
Using checkrom revo v4
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I didn't say to update to ICS beta... just update to XWKK5 and he should be alright!
Anyway i tried to do the same he did in my SGS2 and it keeps icons in their folders..
Using checkrom revo v4
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My icons are kept in their folders. The problem is the icons that are out of their folders. I'm using original Android, no beta nor custom ROMs.
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My icons are kept in their folders. The problem is the icons that are out of their folders. I'm using original Android, no beta nor custom ROMs.
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i rooted my phone and installed checkrom revo v4 and don't have that problem! What is weird to me is that i always used folders and that issue never came to me
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i rooted my phone and installed checkrom revo v4 and don't have that problem! What is weird to me is that i always used folders and that issue never came to me
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I read your first post about upgrading to 2.3.6. Well, if I just use the default Samsung support, I'm stuck to 2.3.4, as my phone is Austrian version and Samsung didn't release nothing newer than 2.3.4 for those phones.
So Samsung sucks big as a company and client support.
Of course if I start to root the phone and installing custom ROMs the problem would disappear, but flashing your phone and breaking your warranty is not something the user should do for something that's supposed to work from the beginning. Different thing is if the user wants extra functionality, but this is not the case.
So, all in all, I'll wait until ICS gets released and after that if it doesn't convince me, I'll root and who know if I flash a custom ROM.
I had that trouble before where one app ended up going to the next page and kept going back there. I think simply restoring the order, going to TwLauncher in the application list and then force stopping should make it remember the order you gave it once you go back.
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I had that trouble before where one app ended up going to the next page and kept going back there. I think simply restoring the order, going to TwLauncher in the application list and then force stopping should make it remember the order you gave it once you go back.
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If I force stop TwLauncher the apps are again "out of control" :-/
I'll try to clear the cache although I'm reluctant because I'll need to recreate all folders again
I have partially solved the problem by clearing the cache of TouchWiz launcher.
Now the SIM service app keeps going back to the same place out of its folder, but I refuse to clear again the cache and organize all my apps. Maybe it's because the SIM service app is something variable. If I kill touchwiz process that app appears inside it's folder (once the cache corruption is solved), but if I turn off the phone and turn on again, the SIM app appears out of the folder.
This is crap.
Well, know what? I've installed some applications at one time, all from Samsung Apps, and after rebooting the phone all my folders are empty and the apps inside them are all spread across 6 screens instead the 2 screens I managed to sort. The apps and folders have lost the position I assigned to them.
Now I have a bunch of icons in random order and I don't want to organize again 6x8 = 48 icons plus the home screens which would turn to default state after clearing the cache of the touchwiz manager.
It's very annoying and unusable. I want to throw the phone through the window.
What I can't understand is how this bug has been happening since launch date and Samsung hasn't been able to solve it. My only hope is the ICS update and I don't have much confidence on it. Probably I'll have to flash a custom ROM and then try to get some Samsung software on it.
The free games offer is very good
PS: Well, maybe it has some explanation->Samsung's poor software development quality assurance. Camera's firmware also suffer from it.
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I read your first post about upgrading to 2.3.6. Well, if I just use the default Samsung support, I'm stuck to 2.3.4, as my phone is Austrian version and Samsung didn't release nothing newer than 2.3.4 for those phones.
So Samsung sucks big as a company and client support.
Of course if I start to root the phone and installing custom ROMs the problem would disappear, but flashing your phone and breaking your warranty is not something the user should do for something that's supposed to work from the beginning. Different thing is if the user wants extra functionality, but this is not the case.
So, all in all, I'll wait until ICS gets released and after that if it doesn't convince me, I'll root and who know if I flash a custom ROM.
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With all due respect, and not aiming to sound rood to you, with that mentality (it should work fine out of the box and I don't care if somewhere else there's a newer version...) you shouldn't be posting on XDA because people we'll obviously tell you to upgrade to the latest version, whether it's from a different operator/country (legit) or simply a leak.
You can't expect people here to act like the only way to use the phone is by following what Samsung/your operator is dictating you. We all know and have long ago agreed that operators and manufacturers are lazy when it comes to QA, and that's why a place like XDA exists
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With all due respect, and not aiming to sound rood to you, with that mentality (it should work fine out of the box and I don't care if somewhere else there's a newer version...) you shouldn't be posting on XDA because people we'll obviously tell you to upgrade to the latest version, whether it's from a different operator/country (legit) or simply a leak.
You can't expect people here to act like the only way to use the phone is by following what Samsung/your operator is dictating you. We all know and have long ago agreed that operators and manufacturers are lazy when it comes to QA, and that's why a place like XDA exists
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The camera firmware bug affects to all people, doesn't matter if you have stock Android or custom ROM. So we're all in the same bag. And this is Galaxy S II General forum, so I post this here because norms allow it.
Anyways, thanks for your reading.
Actually clearing the cache helped! Ever since I updated to 2.3.6 I have had this problem but after clearing the cache it has been resolved. But initially after the update the folders did remember for a couple of days after which the problem started for me. But for now clearing the cache worked well.
Hello, did u guys already tried Menu>Save in app drawer after modifying/rearranging apps/folder?
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I'm trying to install some of the Humble Indie Bundle 6 games on my N4 and I'm running into a problem I've never faced before. The APK files download just fine, but when it comes to actually opening them to start the installation, it won't install. The button that says "install" does nothing when I press it. I checked in my security settings and "unknown sources" are allowed. I included screenshots of both these in the attached files. I even tried un-selecting the "verify apps" option, in case the humble bundle app had been removed from their white list for some reason, it still won't install.
I thought it might be a bug with the Humble Bundle beta app so I tried to uninstall and reinstall it, but it too is getting stuck on the installation. It downloads just fine but it won't install. I've tried rebooting my phone, still no luck. I'm on the latest Jelly Bean 4.2.2. Has anyone else been getting this problem, or does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? I didn't pay much for the games but it sort of sucks to have bought them and be unable to play any of them like this.
I'd like to try with some more third party apps to see if it's all of them, or if it's just the Humble Bundle APKs that are causing me trouble (if it's the later I can probably contact Humble Bundle and ask them for assistance), but I'm not familiar with those. Could someone please recommend some good safe ones I can test out?
My humble bundle beta installed fine. So at least you know the app should work. Sorry can't help you more. Hopefully someone else has a solution. Silly question... have you tried rebooting?
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are you running paranoid android? disable halo, or so ive read.
Any app that requires permission to draw over other apps can potentially cause what you're experiencing. Examples include but are not limited to:
- the HALO feature in PA ROMs
- Screen filter apps
- Other floating apps
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Yes, didn't seem to change anything.
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are you running paranoid android? disable halo, or so ive read.
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I don't think so. My phone is unrooted at the moment.
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- the HALO feature in PA ROMs
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Could any of that happen if I haven't rooted?
Also,
I've just tried to reinstall TubeMate, another third party app I like. It's APK also refuses to install, which probably means there's a problem with my phone and not just the Humble Bundle app. I'm starting to think I'll have to factory reset the phone, which is certainly do-able, just... not very fun.
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Yes, didn't seem to change anything.
I don't think so. My phone is unrooted at the moment.
Could any of that happen if I haven't rooted?
Also,
I've just tried to reinstall TubeMate, another third party app I like. It's APK also refuses to install, which probably means there's a problem with my phone and not just the Humble Bundle app. I'm starting to think I'll have to factory reset the phone, which is certainly do-able, just... not very fun.
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how much storage space do you have left in your phone?
Philippe Lemay said:
Could any of that happen if I haven't rooted?...
...I'm starting to think I'll have to factory reset the phone, which is certainly do-able, just... not very fun.
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Yes, this can happen without root access. I've seen your problem addressed several times in multiple forums and ALL of them is because of a floating app.
Look through your app list. Is there ANY app that, as a feature, floats on top of other apps?
Eg, Facebook Messenger, Screen Filter, Floating Stickies, AirCalc, etc
Just force stop them and you should be able to sideload apk's again.
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how much storage space do you have left in your phone?
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The phone says 1.68 GB are free, but when I plug it into my desktop it tells me 1.57 GBs. So... somewhere between those two.
EDIT:
Found it... It was the Twilight app (no, not THAT Twilight... lol), it's an app that tints the whole screen a slight redish color so it doesn't hurt my eyes too much when I use the phone in the evening. That must count as a "floating". The moment I disabled that I was able to successfully install the APK. YOU SIR, ohyearar, have won a thanks.
Hello guys, ever since I got my phone. Everytime the phone trying to do update an app or installing one it froze for a new minutes until the apps is installed. It was like that on stock and it is like that on every custom roms I've tried. I don't know if I'm the only one or not. Please help and thank you.
TheUndertaker21 said:
Hello guys, ever since I got my phone. Everytime the phone trying to do update an app or installing one it froze for a new minutes until the apps is installed. It was like that on stock and it is like that on every custom roms I've tried. I don't know if I'm the only one or not. Please help and thank you.
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Does it completely freeze up?
Heisenberg said:
Does it completely freeze up?
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No, just for a few mns until the application is done updating/ installing or un installing Then the screen either hang or locked itself. Like the system did a soft reboot.
TheUndertaker21 said:
No, just for a few mns until the application is done updating/ installing or un installing Then the screen either hang or locked itself. Like the system did a soft reboot.
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It's normal for a device to slow down or lag a little when installing apps sometimes, the screen locking definitely isn't normal though.
Even my does the same
Like it i update am app or install from play store and use a diff app say I'm on whatsapp then when the app is installing it will be freezed no touch works nothing but screen remains as it is
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Prattham said:
Even my does the same
Like it i update am app or install from play store and use a diff app say I'm on whatsapp then when the app is installing it will be freezed no touch works nothing but screen remains as it is
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Even when installing app? That's odd. My note 5 doesn't freeze when installing apps or updating them
It's an issue with aosp package installer. You won't see it on other devices as the oems re-write that code.
It's mostly noticeable on anything FB puts out. As they are known for having the worst coded apps on the market.
zelendel said:
It's an issue with aosp package installer. You won't see it on other devices as the oems re-write that code.
It's mostly noticeable on anything FB puts out. As they are known for having the worst coded apps on the market.
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Any fix would be nice. I thought my phone was bad
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Any fix would be nice. I thought my phone was bad
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So far I don't think there is a fix. Can't say about official Google. As I have not run a stock rom since I got my first device. If they have fixed it they have not pushed the fix to aosp which is happening more and more with google
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So far I don't think there is a fix. Can't say about official Google. As I have not run a stock rom since I got my first device. If they have fixed it they have not pushed the fix to aosp which is happening more and more with google
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I'm rooted and running custom rom. It's the same thing.
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I'm rooted and running custom rom. It's the same thing.
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Well as the custom roms sync their source with aosp, then Google has not pushed a fix if there is one. This is happening more and more. Google fixes something but doesn't push it to aosp so it stays broken in 3rd party roms until the devs find a fix
Has this been solved? It's happening to me.
facing same issue. Also my YouTube pause video whenever some app gets updated in background.
Noticed this along with horrible battery life due to system ui restarts or something in all latest may version of Roms. I went back to b29I or whatever "I" version stock rom. No problems since. Goodluck