Hi,
I don't know if someone else found this problem. I made a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RS9j4uiTDaE. It's also in FullHD.
And wrote a post in my blog in my native language, spanish: http://retreteinformatico.blogspot.com/2012/01/touchwiz-40-y-problemas-con-la.html
The video description is english. I'll also explain the problem here:
Simply put, TouchWiz does not save the icons in the place where I leave them. At first I organized all of them in two screens: one with folders and the other with most frequently used icons. After doing a power on-off cycle the icons are all scattered without alphabetical order in three screens instead of two. The folders maintain their ordering and screen. An icon (AllShare) is put between two folders and the other icons are divided in two screens, disordered, not alphabetical.
In the video you'll see first what I found after the icon position screwing. Then I get three or four apps out of their folder (Google Talk, Gmail, Maps, Market) and put them with the rest of the icons and the AllShare app is put with the rest, out of the screen with the folders. Then I power off the phone and turn it on again to find that GTalk, Maps, Market and AllShare are out of their place.
After that, I put the icons more or less where I want to put them (in two screens) and I do again a power cycle to show how did TouchWiz screw my icon organization.
I'm using Android 2.3.4 XWIK4 with baseband XXKI1.
If someone is able to reproduce the problem just tell it. Maybe touchwizh has problems if you put in folders the Samsung apps (Hubs and more), I don't know, but it's a big problem.
Folder/Icon rearrangement is a known problem with TouchWiz since day 1 when SGS2 got released.
Best way to get around is to use AppSorter and sort your App Drawer everytime you create a folder.
Posting problems about 2.3.4 when everyone else is on 2.3.6 = VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS!
Update your phone and test it and give feedback!
Hmmm, I didn't know. How comes that Samsung hasn't fixed this in 8 monts?
This is ludicrous.
Beta is bad
Filiprino said:
Hmmm, I didn't know. How comes that Samsung hasn't fixed this in 8 monts?
This is ludicrous.
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Love the name of your blog: informatic toilet (retrete informatico) ahahah
Anyway: They suck on fixing bugs.. if we users and devs cant fix'em we are screwed lol
Also, why any reviewer spoted this problem? Add to this the Fujitsu camera module problem and you get the idea that QA on Samsung is really poor. Just remember the GPS problem on Samsung Galaxy S1.
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I didn't say to update to ICS beta... just update to XWKK5 and he should be alright!
Anyway i tried to do the same he did in my SGS2 and it keeps icons in their folders..
Using checkrom revo v4
zylor said:
I didn't say to update to ICS beta... just update to XWKK5 and he should be alright!
Anyway i tried to do the same he did in my SGS2 and it keeps icons in their folders..
Using checkrom revo v4
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My icons are kept in their folders. The problem is the icons that are out of their folders. I'm using original Android, no beta nor custom ROMs.
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My icons are kept in their folders. The problem is the icons that are out of their folders. I'm using original Android, no beta nor custom ROMs.
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i rooted my phone and installed checkrom revo v4 and don't have that problem! What is weird to me is that i always used folders and that issue never came to me
zylor said:
i rooted my phone and installed checkrom revo v4 and don't have that problem! What is weird to me is that i always used folders and that issue never came to me
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I read your first post about upgrading to 2.3.6. Well, if I just use the default Samsung support, I'm stuck to 2.3.4, as my phone is Austrian version and Samsung didn't release nothing newer than 2.3.4 for those phones.
So Samsung sucks big as a company and client support.
Of course if I start to root the phone and installing custom ROMs the problem would disappear, but flashing your phone and breaking your warranty is not something the user should do for something that's supposed to work from the beginning. Different thing is if the user wants extra functionality, but this is not the case.
So, all in all, I'll wait until ICS gets released and after that if it doesn't convince me, I'll root and who know if I flash a custom ROM.
I had that trouble before where one app ended up going to the next page and kept going back there. I think simply restoring the order, going to TwLauncher in the application list and then force stopping should make it remember the order you gave it once you go back.
ProtoKun7 said:
I had that trouble before where one app ended up going to the next page and kept going back there. I think simply restoring the order, going to TwLauncher in the application list and then force stopping should make it remember the order you gave it once you go back.
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If I force stop TwLauncher the apps are again "out of control" :-/
I'll try to clear the cache although I'm reluctant because I'll need to recreate all folders again
I have partially solved the problem by clearing the cache of TouchWiz launcher.
Now the SIM service app keeps going back to the same place out of its folder, but I refuse to clear again the cache and organize all my apps. Maybe it's because the SIM service app is something variable. If I kill touchwiz process that app appears inside it's folder (once the cache corruption is solved), but if I turn off the phone and turn on again, the SIM app appears out of the folder.
This is crap.
Well, know what? I've installed some applications at one time, all from Samsung Apps, and after rebooting the phone all my folders are empty and the apps inside them are all spread across 6 screens instead the 2 screens I managed to sort. The apps and folders have lost the position I assigned to them.
Now I have a bunch of icons in random order and I don't want to organize again 6x8 = 48 icons plus the home screens which would turn to default state after clearing the cache of the touchwiz manager.
It's very annoying and unusable. I want to throw the phone through the window.
What I can't understand is how this bug has been happening since launch date and Samsung hasn't been able to solve it. My only hope is the ICS update and I don't have much confidence on it. Probably I'll have to flash a custom ROM and then try to get some Samsung software on it.
The free games offer is very good
PS: Well, maybe it has some explanation->Samsung's poor software development quality assurance. Camera's firmware also suffer from it.
Filiprino said:
I read your first post about upgrading to 2.3.6. Well, if I just use the default Samsung support, I'm stuck to 2.3.4, as my phone is Austrian version and Samsung didn't release nothing newer than 2.3.4 for those phones.
So Samsung sucks big as a company and client support.
Of course if I start to root the phone and installing custom ROMs the problem would disappear, but flashing your phone and breaking your warranty is not something the user should do for something that's supposed to work from the beginning. Different thing is if the user wants extra functionality, but this is not the case.
So, all in all, I'll wait until ICS gets released and after that if it doesn't convince me, I'll root and who know if I flash a custom ROM.
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With all due respect, and not aiming to sound rood to you, with that mentality (it should work fine out of the box and I don't care if somewhere else there's a newer version...) you shouldn't be posting on XDA because people we'll obviously tell you to upgrade to the latest version, whether it's from a different operator/country (legit) or simply a leak.
You can't expect people here to act like the only way to use the phone is by following what Samsung/your operator is dictating you. We all know and have long ago agreed that operators and manufacturers are lazy when it comes to QA, and that's why a place like XDA exists
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With all due respect, and not aiming to sound rood to you, with that mentality (it should work fine out of the box and I don't care if somewhere else there's a newer version...) you shouldn't be posting on XDA because people we'll obviously tell you to upgrade to the latest version, whether it's from a different operator/country (legit) or simply a leak.
You can't expect people here to act like the only way to use the phone is by following what Samsung/your operator is dictating you. We all know and have long ago agreed that operators and manufacturers are lazy when it comes to QA, and that's why a place like XDA exists
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The camera firmware bug affects to all people, doesn't matter if you have stock Android or custom ROM. So we're all in the same bag. And this is Galaxy S II General forum, so I post this here because norms allow it.
Anyways, thanks for your reading.
Actually clearing the cache helped! Ever since I updated to 2.3.6 I have had this problem but after clearing the cache it has been resolved. But initially after the update the folders did remember for a couple of days after which the problem started for me. But for now clearing the cache worked well.
Hello, did u guys already tried Menu>Save in app drawer after modifying/rearranging apps/folder?
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[Q] Phone app, Contacts app rant
I love my SGS, hence i want to rant about it
Dialing from contacts, phone takes always one extra step than other phones.
if i already took the time to set defaults manually,
(1) why do i have to select the number to call again (contacts, solution could be viewing button on far right from the contact name) or
(2) when i use smart dial and am satisfied with first suggestion why do i have to select it then press call (phone app, if i want to call other suggestions they already show it separately in a drop down)?
after a month of using my sgs i still hold the phone to my ear and wait for a while, until i realize i hadn't pressed the green button.
(3) in contacts app i can search my friends by nickname, but ONLY IF i edited their nickname through contacts app, i.e. if it's imported from gmail and i never edited it on my phone it fails to find by nickname.
(4) smart dial is not so smart as it can't search by nickname, unless it's the only field for the contact in the phone's phonebook, huh? so i have to manually add new contacts to phone, then link them, for my closest people (phone app) if it's okay for a handful of people but starting from 20 i start cursing samsung app devs
(5) for my business contacts... it avoids searching by last name, what? (phone app)
then the editing, grouping etc... but since i don't add people daily i can make it work through other apps.
so are there solutions, that you know of, to these woes ?
1. I think the default number only applies outside the contact app (like a shortcut). But if you open it from contact it has to show you all the contact info (otherwise how else can dial the other numbers of that contact that is not the default??).
2. I think this is to cater for the 3G video call option.
3/4/5. It is kind of lame the phone app search only matches from beginning of name and not the entire string. (Hopefully new firmware can cater to this). Luckily the global search (i.e. long press menu key) matches everything. You may want to use this to find instead of opening the phone/contact app. It is much faster
In the contacts settings you can set the order to last name before first name, then you can search by last name.
If you want to call default number just flick the contact name right. Flick it left for message.
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If you want to call default number just flick the contact name right. Flick it left for message.
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Hey thanks for the tip
was it in the manual? (which i never read for any device....)
Well thats just great.
I am seriously so fed up with Samsung its not even funny. I am never buying one of there products ever again.
I said that I would never buy another Samsung product after my last Samsung phone, the Instinct. That was by far the worst phone I have ever owned. I with I had have stuck to that promise.
Oh well. I guess I learned the wrong way.
I think I might just try to sell this pos for as much as I can get for it and buy an HTC Desire HD.
Piece of crap! Grrrrrrrrr
I have put up with this phones issues for months, thinking wait for froyo and see if it helps things. To my delight froyo just became available for o2 uk customers, so I quickly updated. I was like a child with a new toy...but now feel like its broke/lost!
Firstly firstly beaufiful widgets doesn't seen to work properly on froyo. But my main gripe is the new found super lag. I cant even type this message without the phone stuttering! Scrolling up and down in anything...it stutters...like wtf?
Whats my best bet? Hard reset? If so how do I do it? If I backup my contacts on kies will it restore to a factory rest phone?
Any advice is welcome!
Btw running JP3
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djglenn1337 said:
I have put up with this phones issues for months, thinking wait for froyo and see if it helps things. To my delight froyo just became available for o2 uk customers, so I quickly updated. I was like a child with a new toy...but now feel like its broke/lost!
Firstly firstly beaufiful widgets doesn't seen to work properly on froyo. But my main gripe is the new found super lag. I cant even type this message without the phone stuttering! Scrolling up and down in anything...it stutters...like wtf?
Whats my best bet? Hard reset? If so how do I do it? If I backup my contacts on kies will it restore to a factory rest phone?
Any advice is welcome!
Btw running JP3
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backup your apps with titanium backup
factory reset
restore (only user apps and data, no system data)
Thanks for the reply. How do I actually factory reset? Can't find it in settings
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Thanks for the reply. How do I actually factory reset? Can't find it in settings
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Settings/Privacy/Factory Data reset
I feel your pain.
Even going to JPO theres still lag, and the number of hacks that have to be done to get away from RFS and make the phone actually perform like it should is crazy.
I ended up defecting to an iPhone 4, but still have the SGS waiting for the day when its lag free and performing the way it should.
IMO the SGS "could" be way better than the iPhone, but it just needs Samsuck to pull the finger out.
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I feel your pain.
Even going to JPO theres still lag, and the number of hacks that have to be done to get away from RFS and make the phone actually perform like it should is crazy.
I ended up defecting to an iPhone 4, but still have the SGS waiting for the day when its lag free and performing the way it should.
IMO the SGS "could" be way better than the iPhone, but it just needs Samsuck to pull the finger out.
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I did the same and defected to iPhone 4. I will be selling my Galaxy S as I don't believe Samsung will resolve the issues. They have had plenty of time to do this already and nothing has happened. Even with the XDA Developers showing them the problems and coming up with solutions they still have a laggy phone whcih lacks in so many way's. Don't even get me started on Kies.
In the end I bought an iPhone 4 and iPad wifi. Using iTunes and everything is working correctly.
Do yourself a favour...........
No no, its a great phone
Just need to apply mods/hacks/roots etc to make it work apparently and when update comes out you undo it all then redo it all again and hope for best.
I think it would be a great phone if it didn't lag so much.
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JP3 is sh*t. use another firmware
use doc's or darky's and wait for cm6.1 that'll surely be free from lags.
I will have to disagree. I got my galaxy s 3 months replacing iphone 3gs. It came with eclair 2.1 and it was perfect. I did the froyo update the day it came out with the reg hack and kept on getting freezes and force close. Did a factory reset and everything was fine. Did the new official update JPA with no reset and again perfect. The only program that lagged a little was email. Did the one click lag fix and now everything is smooth and fast. With over 50 apps i have no problems at all. My only gripe is that it should have more available ram and with flash on the browser stutters on flash heavy sites.
Apart from that i am very happy. By the way a get sattelite lock on my gps from a cold start in 30 seconds!
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What most users are forgetting is when you upgrade the ROM from Eclair to Froyo you MUST perform a Factory Reset.
Doing so will eliminate a lot of the problems with current Apps.
Animal06 said:
No no, its a great phone
Just need to apply mods/hacks/roots etc to make it work apparently and when update comes out you undo it all then redo it all again and hope for best.
I think it would be a great phone if it didn't lag so much.
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
Ok, been using the phone on and off today without to much trouble...
Till now. Just disconnected phone from charger and and tried facebook app, no go apk failed, same with xda app etc etc. stock browser started but font size was huge and screen res wrong. Power off fixed it... Scary stuff
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sounds like what happened when my SD card started showing signs of failing.
prepare for the worst.
knock on wood, my replacement hasn't acted up yet.
Ok, been using the phone on and off today without to much trouble...
Till now. Just disconnected phone from charger and and tried facebook app, no go apk failed, same with xda app etc etc. stock browser started but font size was huge and screen res wrong. Power off fixed it... Scary stuff
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lol this has happened a few times to ppl....just out luck
Hello, since sometime ago (don't remember when, sorry) my Dialer and SMS apps stopped working.
I never did any 'crazy stuff' with my Milestone 2 - just froze some motoblur stuff with Titanium (and only the really unnecessary stuff like ESMusica, things that you know they're useless) it's rooted too, but that's it. I unfroze everything and still no go, when I try to open them I get a black screen for two seconds and then it goes back back to the home screen.
I don't remember when it happened because I've been using GO Dialer and GO SMS for a long time, so it doesn't really bother me since they work on any launcher, but... I may buy a Galaxy S2 or an Atrix and it will be kind of weird selling the phone without the native Dialer and SMS borked
Anybody went through something similar? And any solution?
Thanks a lot in advance.
maybe just do a factory reset before you sell it? had the same problem with titanium, but i couldn't even recieve any sms...
first try unfreezing all blur-sh** and then reboot it, maybe that helps!
Before you sell it, do a factory reset and flash Retail Brazil SBF.
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wadimka said:
maybe just do a factory reset before you sell it? had the same problem with titanium, but i couldn't even recieve any sms...
first try unfreezing all blur-sh** and then reboot it, maybe that helps!
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Thanks! Good idea doing it before selling (not in a hurry because I just found out my carrier won't discount me until feb 2012 - so maybe I'll be able to get a quad core phone by then, I love my iMac and iPad but I hate the iPhone's keyboard and lack of multitasking - what made me try to freeze all the motoblur stuff was that my phone is constantly hitting 100% cpu and slowing down even with the motothings frozen and oc'ed to 1.25).
But on the unfroze+reboot thing, no luck The messaging app runs, I can click on the facebook messages, etc but when I click text messaging it goes back to the Home Screen. I deleted the app cache/data via app settings on the phone and no go.
If I do a factory reset, what will I lose? My phone apps and contacts? I can reinstall then, and my Go Launcher setup is backed up on the SD and my contacts are synced with google and the mac's address book so maybe I can benefit from it?
Thanks for your response!
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Before you sell it, do a factory reset and flash Retail Brazil SBF.
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Dan can you tell me or point me to how I do this sbf thing? I never flashed anything on my phone, never tried custom ROMs because of the locked bootloader. Thank you.
Search for sbf_flash (mac/linux) or RSD Lite 5.3/4.8/4.9 (windows). Those are the programs that can flash a motorola signed SBF to your phone.
For the files download:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone2
For an explanation of the CGs(partitions) stored inside each SBF (see Droid X section):
http://and-developers.com/partitions:cdt
For a GB SBF get the leak in the Dev forum and the root method in the General or in the Droid 3 forum.
To flash it you need to be on bootloader mode, Power + Volume Down + Camera.
For a better explanation on how to flash it search the forum, you may find it.
Sorry, no links of the forum, I'm on mobile.
Edit: If you want a custom Rom, I only tested the MIUI and it is good, the others (not including Mostly Blurless GB) may have some crazy bugs.
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Thanks a lot for the great explanation! I'll actually try it because since my phone performs very well one week and drives me crazy the next one depending on the apps I'm using, it seems like a good idea to start from scratch, I'll just look for something to manually backup my contacts before (I know google backs them up, just wanna be 100% sure I don't lose anybody lol).
Again, thanks a ton for such a detailed explanation.
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mkioshi said:
Thanks a lot for the great explanation! I'll actually try it because since my phone performs very well one week and drives me crazy the next one depending on the apps I'm using, it seems like a good idea to start from scratch, I'll just look for something to manually backup my contacts before (I know google backs them up, just wanna be 100% sure I don't lose anybody lol).
Again, thanks a ton for such a detailed explanation.
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Don't worry with contacts, google and motoblur backup them.
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mkioshi said:
Hello, since sometime ago (don't remember when, sorry) my Dialer and SMS apps stopped working.
I never did any 'crazy stuff' with my Milestone 2 - just froze some motoblur stuff with Titanium (and only the really unnecessary stuff like ESMusica, things that you know they're useless) it's rooted too, but that's it. I unfroze everything and still no go, when I try to open them I get a black screen for two seconds and then it goes back back to the home screen.
I don't remember when it happened because I've been using GO Dialer and GO SMS for a long time, so it doesn't really bother me since they work on any launcher, but... I may buy a Galaxy S2 or an Atrix and it will be kind of weird selling the phone without the native Dialer and SMS borked
Anybody went through something similar? And any solution?
Thanks a lot in advance.
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Have you changed the screen density? It used to happen the exact same thing with stock SMS and Dialer in my MS2 when I did.
dangpzanco said:
Don't worry with contacts, google and motoblur backup them.
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Yeah I never worried but... One friend I added a long time ago (including fb profile, etc) was not imported - at least not her phone number - so I'm worried now that the contacts I added manually (in her case I just added the phone number, the rest was all fb+google info) won't be 100% synced. I'll check some of the people I added manually if I can remember who they are lol.
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Have you changed the screen density? It used to happen the exact same thing with stock SMS and Dialer in my MS2 when I did.
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I saw threads about that but I never changed it. I only changed the number of rows and columns in my launchers (Go and Launcher Pro) but not screen density.
Baseband Help (TIM BRAZIL)
Hello,
My Milestone 2 is no network, when I turn it appears unsigned. Saw in other forums that the problem may be the Baseband, I'm using the ROM and it came MIUI Defy Baseband Switch, tried all the bands available for Brazil, but none works. Could you help me?
I regularly have the same problem with my dialer app.
It is not that it stops working but after a few days of collecting calls it crashes when I dial certain numbers, for example 420 which is one of the most common number starts for me, the app crashes immediately.
If I clear the stats for the recent calls -in and out- the app doesn't crash but it will crash if I try to see the number matches for that 420 that I dialed.
I hope I'm making myself clear.
I think it is a bug in the app because I don't use titanium to disable anything related to the dialer or contacts or search or anything that has influence over the dialer app.
If anyone has an idea as to why this happens please let me know.
Martin.-
dans_soares said:
Hello,
My Milestone 2 is no network, when I turn it appears unsigned. Saw in other forums that the problem may be the Baseband, I'm using the ROM and it came MIUI Defy Baseband Switch, tried all the bands available for Brazil, but none works. Could you help me?
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Maybe this thread help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182050
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/07/download-google-music-4-0-1-pulled-from-ice-cream-sandwich/
Droid Life just posted the new Google Music APK. There was a trick to installing it on the Transformer though. Not sure if this is something specific to Honeycomb, but I had to do a few things before the app would install successfully without erroring out.
1 - Open Titanium Backup > Backup/Restore > click on Music and make a backup (optional)
2 - As it's a system app, force uninstall Music from Titanium Backup
3 - reboot
4 - install the new Music APK
5 - as noted in the DL article, you may need to Clear Data on the new app before it will sync with your Google account.
Hope this helps someone, happy listening!
EDIT: it seems this apk is not 100% Honeycomb compatible as it force closes on the song screen. Make that backup!
I installed but I get force close everytime I click on an album, any idea why??
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I installed but I get force close everytime I click on an album, any idea why??
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So far everyone with a tf or xoom that posted about it (myself included) has said the same thing.
Yeah, I spent about an hour trying different things looking for a fix. Reverted back to 3.0.1 for now, hope someone comes up with a fix soon! Artists/albums screens seem less buggy on the new APK.
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Yeah, I spent about an hour trying different things looking for a fix. Reverted back to 3.0.1 for now, hope someone comes up with a fix soon! Artists/albums screens seem less buggy on the new APK.
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I hate how bad the Artist/album screens are on my Transformer. I figured I was the only one. It like it keeps refreshing the list and I can't even get down the list.
A new Google Music apk (4.0.1) has reportedly been pulled from Verizon’s Galaxy Nexus which also means that it was built specifically for Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0). The hints of ICS are all over it, but most noticeably from the color scheme which has turned cyan-blue. It also feels much more polished than previous builds.
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So it appears that this version is not downward compatible with hc 3.2.1. Nothing you can do about that, except wait for ics to reside within the tf101.
For what its worth.....
I have just got it fully working on my sgs2.
Gonna give it a whirl on my tf now.
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The new Music 4.0 fails to detect that you're using a tablet, the widget is the one used on the phone. I don't think its ready for use on the tablet yet.
Ive had a word with a guy i know......
Lets see what happens
And, im gonna have a look at that myself too. But i dont hold out much hope
Not sure if this belongs in general or in Q&A, but as it's supposed to be more of a discussion thread, I put it in general. If a mod disagrees, I'm sure it can be relocated.
I've tried both this and the Chinese I9220 leak, and none of them are good enough to be daily drivers for me. But they give me something to look forward to as the feel and speed of the GUI is just amazing compared to GB.
To sum up my main gripes about the ROMs:
Chinese I9220 leak:
Unstable bluetooth; Disconnects and will not reconnect without toggling BT off/on on handset side.
Hang; Whole handset just hangs. Need to keep power button pressed > 10 secs to force reboot.
Contacts application performs really bad; Stutters and hangs all over, even FCs at times. New favorites tab is really crap compared to old one. (BIG pictures of your favorites, no "most called" option.
Dialer no longer recognizes my incoming calls from contacts that has country code in their phone#; If someone calls me and I have stored their # in the format +47xxxxxxxx, it will only show up as a number on incoming call. As soon as I edit the contact and remove the +47, it will show up as normal.
Minor annoyance; A lot of preinstalled Chinese apps; these can be easily disabled under the application list in settings. That will make them disappear from your app drawer. Some of the apps tie into TW quite a bit, and I found no way to sort that out, but I am sure you can fix that as well if need be.
Minor annoyance; Color of address bar in stock browser is black on black, which makes it kind of hard to read.
Minor annoyance: Not all languages are present; can use English, but need to hack locales to get correct display of phone # etc.
Minor annoyance; Swiftkey X tablet not woking as it should. Does not show in landscape at all.
N7000 leak:
Showstopper, No sound on calls. Did not bother to play around with it too much after I found this, but also found it to be a bit less stable in general than the I9220 release. Quite a few TW apps FCing, and you needed to flash CSC twice to get a working keyboard.
Minor annoyance; Languages missing. Same deal as with the I9220 version.
Minor annoyance; Problems with graphics in some applications. Some applications like Swiftkey X tablet not working as it should.
So now I am back to stock, on the fence again. Really, really looking forward to a fully working release. The taste I have had here convinces me that the handset really will show its potential a lot better in ICS than what they have managed to do with GB.
If anyone has found solutions to the problems I list here or other problems I did not find, please post them here so that we can find a way to make these ROMs a daily driver as soon as possible.
-KJ
at the moment:
chineese leak:
amazingly fast, even smoother than gingerbread with custom rom(rocket rom)
no color banding at calculator
video player isnt working
sammy leak:
laggy
color banding at calculator
so far i found these factors. But chineese leak can be used as daily rom.
I'm using chinese rom as daily now.
Chinese leak :
Much faster than XXLP1, also quite a bit more stable. Contacts app is slightly laggy but still worlds better than the one in GB. I'd still prefer stock ICS contacts app. With build.prop hacks it works well. BT works fine for me, although I don't use it a lot(Just to transfer a couple of pictures around)
Video problem : Fix by installing gapps and using stock ICS gallery(I deleted Gallery 3D, it's ugly compared to ICS' one).
XXLP1 :
Well....sucks. Laggier, more unstable than Chinese leak. Presumably older build, voice on phone doesn't work.
Currently using the chinese leak as daily, deleted crappy chinese apps and other samsung apps that I don't need + added CM9 Music app, build.prop tweaks, Nova Launcher, ICS Gallery, Chrome Beta.
The chinese leak hangs because of background ANRs. Other than that it works great.
Initially I wanted to cook a rom based on the chinese leak with AOSP apps (What I really want on my note is the TW S Pen apps + AOSP, or something close) such as AOSP contacts and AOSP SMS, whilst removing all the chinese crapware and some of the samsung crapware (eg: samsung apps) but I think I'll wait until a slightly more stable version comes out..
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Not sure if this belongs in general or in Q&A, but as it's supposed to be more of a discussion thread, I put it in general. If a mod disagrees, I'm sure it can be relocated.
I've tried both this and the Chinese I9220 leak, and none of them are good enough to be daily drivers for me. But they give me something to look forward to as the feel and speed of the GUI is just amazing compared to BG.
To sum up my main gripes about the ROMs:
Chinese I9220 leak:
Unstable bluetooth; Disconnects and will not reconnect without toggling BT off/on on handset side.
Hang; Whole handset just hangs. Need to keep power button pressed > 10 secs to force reboot.
Contacts application performs really bad; Stutters and hangs all over, even FCs at times. New favorites tab is really crap compared to old one. (BIG pictures of your favorites, no "most called" option.
Dialer no longer recognizes my incoming calls from contacts that has country code in their phone#; If someone calls me and I have stored their # in the format +47xxxxxxxx, it will only show up as a number on incoming call. As soon as I edit the contact and remove the +47, it will show up as normal.
Minor annoyance; A lot of preinstalled Chinese apps; these can be easily disabled under the application list in settings. That will make them disappear from your app drawer. Some of the apps tie into TW quite a bit, and I found no way to sort that out, but I am sure you can fix that as well if need be.
Minor annoyance; Color of address bar in stock browser is black on black, which makes it kind of hard to read.
Minor annoyance: Not all languages are present; can use English, but need to hack locales to get correct display of phone # etc.
Minor annoyance; Swiftkey X tablet not woking as it should. Does not show in landscape at all.
N7000 leak:
Showstopper, No sound on calls. Did not bother to play around with it too much after I found this, but also found it to be a bit less stable in general than the I9220 release. Quite a few TW apps FCing, and you needed to flash CSC twice to get a working keyboard.
Minor annoyance; Languages missing. Same deal as with the I9220 version.
Minor annoyance; Problems with graphics in some applications. Some applications like Swiftkey X tablet not working as it should.
So now I am back to stock, on the fence again. Really, really looking forward to a fully working release. The taste I have had here convinces me that the handset really will show its potential a lot better in ICS than what they have managed to do with GB.
If anyone has found solutions to the problems I list here or other problems I did not find, please post them here so that we can find a way to make these ROMs a daily driver as soon as possible.
-KJ
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Thanks for your very useful thread which will help people decide whether to flash these "leaked" ROMS or not.
Gaugerer said:
Thanks for your very useful thread which will help people decide whether to flash these "leaked" ROMS or not.
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+1. Should temporary sticky it too. Prevent moronic comments like:
Ok so gone from chinese rom to this one and i gotta say, SAMMOBILE you succckkkk man, you kept us waiting for this pile of doggy doo, this rom seriously sux, crash crash crash, no matter how ya flash it, its poo, slow, laggy, sound static issues, absolutely awful, the unfinished cm9 has less bugs than this.
Reverting back to chinese, that rom is so much better than this.
Oh,
Thanks again sammobile
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Not a great thing to say to someone that doesn't actually create the rom..
My intention was indeed to try to prevent the dev threads to be flooded by nondev and nonrelevant posts like that.
I will let this thread live a little and see if I can compile a list on each leak to sum up. Hopefully others that have a little more patience than myself will find ways around a few of the problems we already identified.
-KJ
i am also using Chinese leak ROM as daily one and it works awesome with all bloatware freezer or removed with TB. Nova launcher works perfectly. I also use exDialer since the stock one is sooo crapy. I just wish I could get rid of TW notifications and get the stock ICS one.
I'm using the Chinese ROM set at 240 DPI (I read that going lower will cause it to freeze and require re-flashing), TouchPal Keyboard, Go Launcher, Go SMS (other SMS wasn't recognizing existing contacts), and I deleted most of the local apps. I haven't really had any problems with it. I think it is good enough to be a daily.
I would like to merge some of the CM9 stuff with this ROM but I think I'll wait for more experienced hands to do it.
I am also on the Chinese rom and it working just fine.... I haven't had any FCs or force reboots and overall its quite slick also ram memory is more than stock gingerbread firmware (816 vs 800mb)
Unstable bluetooth; Disconnects and will not reconnect without toggling BT off/on on handset side.
Hang; Whole handset just hangs. Need to keep power button pressed > 10 secs to force reboot.
Contacts application performs really bad; Stutters and hangs all over, even FCs at times. New favorites tab is really crap compared to old one. (BIG pictures of your favorites, no "most called" option.
Dialer no longer recognizes my incoming calls from contacts that has country code in their phone#; If someone calls me and I have stored their # in the format +47xxxxxxxx, it will only show up as a number on incoming call. As soon as I edit the contact and remove the +47, it will show up as normal.
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I'm quite sure you are doing something wrong if all that is happening to you. My handset crashing was resolved when I found out it was an incompatible app, and my contacts with country code works fine.
I am using Chainfire's repack + Gapps and everything seems to be working fine.
There is only issue i have seen no solution to, that is the google calendar is not syncing. It does not appear on my google account at all.
Anyone able to help?
Vulpix said:
I'm quite sure you are doing something wrong if all that is happening to you. My handset crashing was resolved when I found out it was an incompatible app, and my contacts with country code works fine.
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Hmm... Not sure if there's a lot that can be done wrong here. Wiped everything and installed from Mobile Odin.
Now it also has decided to turn down the ringtone and SMS sound. It has become extremely low in volume even though I have set it to max in the Settings - Sound - Volumes.
I think this is down to inconsistencies in the ROM and not me being unable to operate it...
-KJ
Edit: Rebooting solved the sound issue. For now.
HTCtouchuk said:
I am using Chainfire's repack + Gapps and everything seems to be working fine.
There is only issue i have seen no solution to, that is the google calendar is not syncing. It does not appear on my google account at all.
Anyone able to help?
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Have a look at post #1696:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500186&page=170
Hey folks,
If you're experiencing problems with calendars - I believe the problem is actually that you are using another version of the Google Apps (and not the one provided in post #1)
I had found my Google Apps ZIP elsewhere with the filename:
gapps-ics-4.0.3-20111217[1].zip
The ZIP you actually need to restore:
gappsv7.1.zip
As soon as I flashed that and gapps_fixer.zip the Sync Calendar option appeared!
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I've very few problem with the Chinese leak repacked by chainfire.. my phone doesn't vibrate on incoming notifications or calls.. anyone has any idea to fix it? I cant see any option to enable it though I can see the option to set vibration intensity for ringtone and notifications.
ziko said:
Have a look at post #1696:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500186&page=170
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Thanks for this, should have checked the updated post one!!
Can some one please provide download links for ics for the note ?? Thanks
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Check under Android Development. Two separate threads there for the two leaks.
-KJ
fjevel said:
Check under Android Development. Two separate threads there for the two leaks.
-KJ
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Thanks dude
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Hello,
I am writing this to help other newbies who may want to switch to Cyanogen for the first time on their Epic 4G. There were a few things I needed to do after to get everything working the way I liked and I figure this will save some people time.
What do I need to do prior?
There are many how-to's which will help but I had my Epic stock rom rooted so it was as simple as flashing cyanogen through recovery. Here is the link for a "how-to" root the stock rom if you wish to do it this way. It was the easiest way for me though the official guide says "Rooting the stock firmware is neither recommended nor necessary."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9eaCtiS0Bo
Where do I get Cyanogen?:
You can download it here. I am running the 10.0.0 stable build.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Epicmtd_Info
I have no google apps:
This is a problem with any Cyanogen installation. Easy fix, download & install the gaaps package from the link below and your marketplace will be back.
http://goo.im/gapps
I don’t have Navigation:
Easy fix again, download the google maps app. Here is the app store link.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DMsImNvbS5nb29nbGUuYW5kcm9pZC5hcHBzLm1hcHMiXQ..
I don’t have voicemail:
While you can use any voicemail app I wanted the one I had on the stock rom. I linked the app below and your voicemail will be back as soon as you install it. You need to open the app after so that it will activate.
https://od.lk/d/MjRfMjc2MDY5MF8/vtt-sprint.apk
I am getting texts from 9016 every time I get a voicemail:
From reading it seems the stock rom blocks us from seeing these but they are in fact needed for voicemail to work. To fix this I used a free app called “RedList”. Simply add 9016 to the RedList within the app, change the settings to disable both notifications, and this will problem will be solved. Here is the app store link.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5saW5ub3IuUmVkTGlzdCJd
Text messages no longer have separate colors for me and my recipient:
The stock android text display is white and I hated this after getting used to Samsung’s nice colors but luckily you can solve this in two ways.
(One) A theme manager is built into the interface section of your settings page. After searching through almost every free CM10 theme I found this one I liked. It does NOT touch too many things only adding a brushed metal look and displaying text messages how I wanted them. There are a few colors to choose from but I went with Blue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992980
(Two) Replace only the MMS app with one that is color coded. Please note that unlike the above, to reverse this down the road you will need to find a stock mms app package with an installer. This is good for people who are sure they want this and only wish to change the colors of the messenger, while the above is good for people who like to switch themes often being able to revert back at any second. Link for the colored mms app.
http://www.mediafire.com/?hcjukwwkj4y41h3
Morror: https://od.lk/f/MjRfMjc2MDY5MV8
Facebook pictures no longer sync with my existing contacts:
This is a small problem, but still one that I got used to having with the stock rom and wanted to correct. From reading this seems to be a problem related to later Android versions, not just Cyanogen. The fix for this is easy as well, search out a free app called “UberSync for Facebook”. I had the regular facebook app installed & logged in prior and UberSync logged right in, got the pictures, and updated my contacts.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsInJvLndlZWRuZXQuY29udGFjdHNzeW5jIl0.
I no longer have Swype:
Despite having the nice physical keyboard (the whole reason I got the Epic) I still got used to using Swype here or there. I don't think I will be allowed to link this file here but you can find it on "certain" sites.
Notes:
Despite reports that Bluetooth can be problematic, I use it daily with an earpiece and have yet to experience any issues. GPS & 4G also work great. If any links are broken send me a PM! I check my email daily.
Get rid of the dropbox download links. Those are absolutely horrible when posting a guide for others to use.
nikon120 said:
Get rid of the dropbox download links. Those are absolutely horrible when posting a guide for others to use.
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Why are they so bad? The bring you right to the download and I won't be deleting these files from my dropbox. Much better IMO than dealing with one of those sites where you have to wait 45 seconds for a download link to appear in a sea of other spam download buttons.
protivakid said:
Why are they so bad? The bring you right to the download and I won't be deleting these files from my dropbox. Much better IMO than dealing with one of those sites where you have to wait 45 seconds for a download link to appear in a sea of other spam download buttons.
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Well...
No MD5/SHA1 to compare against to make sure you have a complete download.
People's dropbox tends to get too much traffic and the link becomes dead.
You basically cut out the original author(s) of the file.
Based off # 3: They could need the ad revenue, and/or want to track download activity if they're self-hosting.
nikon120 said:
Well...
No MD5/SHA1 to compare against to make sure you have a complete download.
People's dropbox tends to get too much traffic and the link becomes dead.
You basically cut out the original author(s) of the file.
Based off # 3: They could need the ad revenue, and/or want to track download activity if they're self-hosting.
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I know this isn't directed at me, but the things I have on my box account are older things( Samsung Moment update tool), things I've done for myself, or things that I've found for other people. In other words, things many people don't care about.
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nikon120 said:
Well...
No MD5/SHA1 to compare against to make sure you have a complete download.
People's dropbox tends to get too much traffic and the link becomes dead.
You basically cut out the original author(s) of the file.
Based off # 3: They could need the ad revenue, and/or want to track download activity if they're self-hosting.
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#1 - I think more people are concerned with a working link, if they download the archive after and it somehow gets corrupted i'm sure they will just try again
#2 - Valid point though my files don't have a great enough of demand to warrant this. If this changes I will change my links.
#3 The only thing that wasn't mine with a dropbox link was the MMS app and I only mirrored it in case the original link were ever taken down. If it will make you happy I can include the original link as well. For the voice mail app, its simply the sprint one ripped from a stock rom.
Though your points are valid, I think you are sort of just being picky bud
Thanks for the VM download link. Only thing I want is task manager which I had installed on CM9. Is there stockish one that works for 10?
Try the flashable one from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452004
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swype
I reinstalled swype 3 or 4 times with various upgrades and it would always "expire" and I'd have to figure out how to get it working again. I am running 10.1 RC5 now and it has a decent generic swype-ish virtual keyboard. The thing missing is that you can't finish your text and go back and fix any misspelled words by touching alternate suggestions. You have to catch them as they come up. It seems like at first I could still do that, but I can't figure out how to get the suggestions to come back up.
I'm over swype.
Just flashed CyanogenMod 10.1... is there any built in overclocking?
I installed SetCPU and it won't step above 1000 MHz.
Kernel
Steelcitymetal said:
Just flashed CyanogenMod 10.1... is there any built in overclocking?
I installed SetCPU and it won't step above 1000 MHz.
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You need a different Kernel. I have been using didy's kernel for a while. You flash CM10.1 and then you flash the kernel. CM10.1 has its own kernel that overwrites what you flash. So when you update, i think you have to reflash the kernel. I haven't screwed around with it since I installed rc5. I think I did CM, then the kernel, then the big mem patch. I never was able to figure out how to update the radio. I always ended up with "no voice service" or worse.
There is a thread in the developer forum that has the links to the kernel downloads. I am running one from may 30 and haven't updated.
boocephus said:
You need a different Kernel. I have been using didy's kernel for a while. You flash CM10.1 and then you flash the kernel. CM10.1 has its own kernel that overwrites what you flash. So when you update, i think you have to reflash the kernel. I haven't screwed around with it since I installed rc5. I think I did CM, then the kernel, then the big mem patch. I never was able to figure out how to update the radio. I always ended up with "no voice service" or worse.
There is a thread in the developer forum that has the links to the kernel downloads. I am running one from may 30 and haven't updated.
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I think I found it... Is didy the same as didhiy?
[KERNEL][CM10.1]Nitest Kernel for Crespo4G/Epic4G Modem with Voodoo Sound&Color
When you say you couldn't update the radio, you just mean the cell service radio, right? Not wifi? I don't have cell service on my Epic, so that wouldn't be a problem for me... just as long as the wifi radio still works
Also, what specifically do you mean by "or worse"?
Steelcitymetal said:
I think I found it... Is didy the same as didhiy?
[KERNEL][CM10.1]Nitest Kernel for Crespo4G/Epic4G Modem with Voodoo Sound&Color
When you say you couldn't update the radio, you just mean the cell service radio, right? Not wifi? I don't have cell service on my Epic, so that wouldn't be a problem for me... just as long as the wifi radio still works
Also, what specifically do you mean by "or worse"?
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Yeah. That's the one. I looked at my about phone and it said "didy".
I saw a thread about the nexus radio being hot **** and I fooled around with it. I got either "no voice service" or no nuthin. I was able to flash back to the regular epic radio. there is another thread that had all the flashable zips with different modems. luckily the epic one undid my stupidity - at least on my phone.
boocephus said:
Yeah. That's the one. I looked at my about phone and it said "didy".
I saw a thread about the nexus radio being hot **** and I fooled around with it. I got either "no voice service" or no nuthin. I was able to flash back to the regular epic radio. there is another thread that had all the flashable zips with different modems. luckily the epic one undid my stupidity - at least on my phone.
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Thanks man, I'll give it a shot. CM10.1 is running pretty smoothly on my phone, but it could be better and battery life is not an issue for me.
I'll be sure to run backups before I do though :good:
Thanks
These tips helped - I just made the jump to CM 10.1, and although there are a few quirks it has been great. Your list really helped.
FYI, one thing I ran into was the auto-rotate didn't work. I followed the directions here:
http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/boot-el30-stock-from-sdcard.html
the first time, there was no change. I tried again (and calibrated like 6 times) and it worked.
Has anyone noticed the physical keyboard doesn't always work the same? In some places, you have to hold down shift or Fn while pressing the key you want (for example - hold shift while pressing A, rather then pressing shift then pressing A). It's not consistent - some inputs work like the keyboard did before. Does anyone have any suggestions how to fix this. Not the worst thing (I'm just glad I still have a physical keyboard), but I would prefer it work the way it did before, or if that's not possible, at least be consistent.
And the smiley face button on the physical keyboard doesn't work either. I mean, it's like 2005 where I have to type out my 's!!
any phantom voicemail fix?
phantom voicemails?
TheSkipperCDB said:
Has anyone noticed the physical keyboard doesn't always work the same? In some places, you have to hold down shift or Fn while pressing the key you want (for example - hold shift while pressing A, rather then pressing shift then pressing A). It's not consistent - some inputs work like the keyboard did before. Does anyone have any suggestions how to fix this. Not the worst thing (I'm just glad I still have a physical keyboard), but I would prefer it work the way it did before, or if that's not possible, at least be consistent.
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I have noticed that the physical keyboard doesn't work right in the browser. Shift and Fn don't seem to work. I am usually in such a hurry that I just close it up and use the virtual keyboard if I want to have punctuation. It honestly didn't occur to me that it might be fixed. I can't offer that fix. I am just offering emotional support and validation.:good:
boocephus said:
I have noticed that the physical keyboard doesn't work right in the browser. Shift and Fn don't seem to work. I am usually in such a hurry that I just close it up and use the virtual keyboard if I want to have punctuation. It honestly didn't occur to me that it might be fixed. I can't offer that fix. I am just offering emotional support and validation.:good:
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I noticed that the default browser you have to hold the shift or fn key while pressing the desired key to get it to work. Apps and os seem to work with a tap od these keys and then a hit of the desired key.I recall a while back a thread about the smiley and since it was not a default key the consensus was that they would not be adding the functionality to cm. While on the topic...same goes with the .com function.
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I'm sorry i want to ask, how we modify system setting look in CM? Thank you..