Anyone know if any Metro apps are being created specifically for the Metro UI in Windows 8?
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yes, in visual studio beta 11 you can make metro appsfor windows 8 only
google is working on a version of chrome for metro as is mozilla with firefox. I'd say it's safe to say that you can expect an official facebook and twitter clients as well.
Look for developers that have cross platform support in the mobile world and it's probably safe to assume that most popular multi platform apps will get a metro app in the coming months.
Here's one I know for a fact that I know most of you won't care about; EnergyPro, an energy analysis tool for buildings (used a ton in the design part of the construction industry)
The next version will be available for Windows, Windows 8 (as a metro app), and Ipad. They are also looking into an android tablet port. How do I know this? I talked with one of the designers of the software last week at a seminar. They're looking to expand cross-platform more.
Funnily enough, they still have no interest in making an OSX app, because "pretty much everyone who has a Mac has some way of running windows software on it"
Well win8 been out some time one would expect some demo metro apps to be out there or the least here but nothing?
I know MS will not start win8 marketplace for some time to come but when was that an issue?
I can't find any METRO UI apps on the web too...
You will have to wait til after the deadline of the MS challenge. There will be some cool apps coming up soon.
ruscik said:
Well win8 been out some time one would expect some demo metro apps to be out there or the least here but nothing?
I know MS will not start win8 marketplace for some time to come but when was that an issue?
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Is there a date for developers when the marketplace "beta" will go live, so we can publish our apps or at least test the marketplace integration ?
The reason for "no Metro apps on the web" is just simple.
There is not even a beta online of Windows 8 which means that a beta store would be useless for now. So no one can develop apps right now.
Serial Thrilla said:
The reason for "no Metro apps on the web" is just simple.
There is not even a beta online of Windows 8 which means that a beta store would be useless for now. So no one can develop apps right now.
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Yyy developer preview + win8 SDK was clearly released for one reason only to develops apps and test them.
Even though people may have been working on applications for the Windows 8 metro library, it isn't commercially available, and most people who are currently using it are other developers or technical enthusiasts who won't be interested in their angry birds port or something stupid like that. And I've found one or two out there myself, but they're mostly just stupid calculator apps or calendar apps, stuff that's already included in the ISO, essentially.
At least that's my opinion.
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Even though people may have been working on applications for the Windows 8 metro library, it isn't commercially available, and most people who are currently using it are other developers or technical enthusiasts who won't be interested in their angry birds port or something stupid like that. And I've found one or two out there myself, but they're mostly just stupid calculator apps or calendar apps, stuff that's already included in the ISO, essentially.
At least that's my opinion.
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Beta apps could be released for enthusiasts to test. I am not talking angry birds. A unit converter or calculator that is on metro as tile ready to use and so on.
Good: Most functionality from x86 remain. Verge said no WMP in desktop, only in Metro. And no legacy apps, of course. Office RT Preview looks good (given that it's free), albeit you'll need a KB/mouse setup. Looks just like Win8 all-around.
Bad: No accelerometer?! Well, at least the Surface RT has it.
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Good: Most functionality from x86 remain. Verge said no WMP in desktop, only in Metro. And no legacy apps, of course. Office RT Preview looks good (given that it's free), albeit you'll need a KB/mouse setup. Looks just like Win8 all-around.
Bad: No accelerometer?! Well, at least the Surface RT has it.
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There's a chance. That slim possibility of running cross-compiled desktop apps..... Maybe, just maybe.
So... desktop view works on RT, this is a go
Now I will really be buying the Surface, also you can put the Surface in 0 and 90 grades angles in the dock so it makes it even better.
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Another brief tour of WinRT, this time going through Word 2013 Preview. But more noteworthy is that windowing function in desktop mode is still the same as ever (1:25 mark), ie you can move/resize/overlap windows to any degree.
The main takeway is that WinRT is basically same as Win8 x86 w/o the legacy apps, in exchange for a lower price and free Office. (I hope MS shrinks the footprint, and dumps WinSxS.) The second takeway is that despite all the Metro hubbub, if you want to get real work done, it still takes a mouse & keyboard.
Am hoping sideloading will be achieved quickly, and that 3rd-parties will support desktop mode with cross-compiled apps as phail pal said.
Oh yah and hoping MS goes ahead with that $199 Surface RT!
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Another brief tour of WinRT, this time going through Word 2013 Preview. But more noteworthy is that windowing function in desktop mode is still the same as ever (1:25 mark), ie you can move/resize/overlap windows to any degree.
The main takeway is that WinRT is basically same as Win8 x86 w/o the legacy apps, in exchange for a lower price and free Office. (I hope MS shrinks the footprint, and dumps WinSxS.) The second takeway is that despite all the Metro hubbub, if you want to get real work done, it still takes a mouse & keyboard.
Am hoping sideloading will be achieved quickly, and that 3rd-parties will support desktop mode with cross-compiled apps as phail pal said.
Oh yah and hoping MS goes ahead with that $199 Surface RT!
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My.. there it is! the desktop! and FILES! LOL. I like this, I wish I can be at USA when it goes out to make the line with others to buy it, but I will have to tell somebody to buy me one and send it to DR crap!..
There will be an accelerometer. That is a requirement of windows RT
I'm kind of surprised he wasted an opportunity with Windows RT in the desktop. There so many questions regarding metro performance and resource footprint that he could have addressed.
Some more looks at WinRT desktop (and tech stuff).
Storage & OS footprint: On this 32GB device, only 24GB is showing as available as a single C: drive, with 12GB of that used and 12GB remaining (2:02 mark). From this, I'm assuming the OS is stashed in a 8GB reserved partition, and the 12GB used is from Office and possible swap file. Total footprint: 20GB for WinRT + Office. On a 32GB device, that is a huge footprint and needs to be slimmed down much further.
MS Office 2013 has a touch mode that's disabled by default (why?). Enabling it means menu options are spaced further apart from each other, allowing for more surface area for touch input.
Another Verge vid shows that most of Win8's built-in apps & functions (except WordPad and WMP) are present in WinRT. Also, a look-see at Dev Mgr, showing the same WDDM 1.2 drivers as in Win8. Some of the driver dates are from 2006, which imply the drivers have not been reworked at all, but were simply recompiled (1:50 mark). This is certainly good news for porting to ARM.
All these indicate a work-in-progress for RT. One worry is that MS, in its push to standardize on Metro, will take measures to lock out the desktop. We'll see how it goes, but the above is a good step toward assuring users that RT won't be just a dumbed-down Windows.
The ZDNet article talking about these two videos is here, and contain a few more insights.
http://www.zdnet.com/hands-on-with-windows-rt-finally-7000003589/
The more I watch it, the more I like it. Windows 8 is awesome, fast, smooth and safe. =]
I got very excited about the "desktop mode" in RT, but then I remembered about this:
"heavily-restricted "desktop" mode that will run only Microsoft code...[such as] Word, Excel, PowerPoint...[and] Internet Explorer."
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I got very excited about the "desktop mode" in RT, but then I remembered about this:
"heavily-restricted "desktop" mode that will run only Microsoft code...[such as] Word, Excel, PowerPoint...[and] Internet Explorer."
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It will be hacked in no time...
Droff said:
I got very excited about the "desktop mode" in RT, but then I remembered about this:
"heavily-restricted "desktop" mode that will run only Microsoft code...[such as] Word, Excel, PowerPoint...[and] Internet Explorer."
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Source?
phailyoor said:
Source?
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Microsoft blog
Chillingly Based said:
Microsoft blog
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Droff said:
I got very excited about the "desktop mode" in RT, but then I remembered about this:
"heavily-restricted "desktop" mode that will run only Microsoft code...[such as] Word, Excel, PowerPoint...[and] Internet Explorer."
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This will only apply for about the first week.
Once the people who make software start to build for Windows 8, most apps like for example VLC and so on upload to the app store, most apps will cross compile in the cloud.
That was stated at the launch event.
So it means something like VLC could hit Windows 8 x86/RT/ and Windows Phone 8.
In under 6 months I can see having about 90% of the use of a full PC on RT.
I could find that handy to have an arm based Win Tab, with a dumb version of Photoshop to edit a picture on the fly, hot spot my phone and upload on the go.
My dream is a Nokia Tablet (MS Surface as 2nd pick), my HTC Radar ( with 7.8), and my Canon Digi, all able to fit in my Motor bike Case.
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This will only apply for about the first week.
Once the people who make software start to build for Windows 8, most apps like for example VLC and so on upload to the app store, most apps will cross compile in the cloud.
That was stated at the launch event.
So it means something like VLC could hit Windows 8 x86/RT/ and Windows Phone 8.
In under 6 months I can see having about 90% of the use of a full PC on RT.
Case.
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Well, it's not been confirmed whether there will be desktop development allowed on Windows RT devices. If it is allowed, then I totally agree with you. We'll see a deluge of desktop apps recompiled to target ARM desktop. If it is not allowed(most likely) then Windows RT devices are worthless.
I dont think they intend At this point to Allow desktop apps in windows rt, however apparently a large amount of the windows 8 rt (metro) apps will be cross platform, working on both arm and x86
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There will be, just wait until Windows RT is out, and give it 2 weeks or so.
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It was made very clear, at both the Surface launch, and again at WP8 launch, because of the shared bits and common code that apps will cross platform.
If I am not mistaken the statement was " build once and compile for all"
The developer tools will cover all 3 platforms in 1 program.
It also means because of the common code, if the builders of apps for iphone and android want to add users they can use almost the same code.
So the things you like on your PC, once built for Metro will show up on all 3 platforms, or just the PC and RT.
I truly think this is the call of the developer and not MS. As the developer will pick what platform to compile for.
So in time you will see Firefox, Chrome....PJ64, Nes.....Photoshop,Video Edit...multi format media player like VLC or Real Player.
It is just up to someone out on the internet to click the button and send the uplaod.
If your unsure, go back and watch the Surface launch, I am sure it is said a few times.
>Well, it's not been confirmed whether there will be desktop development allowed on Windows RT devices...If it is not allowed(most likely) then Windows RT devices are worthless.
Metro can't replace the desktop for productivity, so unless MS wants RT to fail out of the gate, RT can't and won't be restricted to just Metro apps. RT will have an uphill battle as it is to get any traction, with no Metro apps to speak of, and having to compete against iPad and cheap Android tabs. Restricting RT to just Metro (and Office) is just plain stupid.
Second, I find it humorous that MS would be able to "restrict" desktop development, or for that matter forcing every vendor to use only the MS app store to sell their wares (and for MS to get its 30 or 20% cut). Windows is still a monopoly, and that would be the first thing vendors will scream about. That, and hobbyist devs (read: XDA types) will do whatever they want to do.
>It also means because of the common code, if the builders of apps for iphone and android want to add users they can use almost the same code.
That's the MS pitch for pushing Metro. However, for the immediate future, RT and WP8 are insignificant entities, and cross-platform isn't a pressing need. Metro's positives have to be weighed against its negatives, and the big one for now is that it can't do desktop (productivity) applications. Cross-platform doesn't matter unless that's resolved.
Windows 8 isn't a finished product, despite the RTM tag. Much will have to change. Either MS needs to do the desktop/Metro integration much better, or Metro will have to grow up. As it stands, I don't see anything as being cast in stone, MS' decrees notwithstanding.
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>Well, it's not been confirmed whether there will be desktop development allowed on Windows RT devices...If it is not allowed(most likely) then Windows RT devices are worthless.
Metro can't replace the desktop for productivity, so unless MS wants RT to fail out of the gate, RT can't and won't be restricted to just Metro apps. RT will have an uphill battle as it is to get any traction, with no Metro apps to speak of, and having to compete against iPad and cheap Android tabs. Restricting RT to just Metro (and Office) is just plain stupid.
Second, I find it humorous that MS would be able to "restrict" desktop development, or for that matter forcing every vendor to use only the MS app store to sell their wares (and for MS to get its 30 or 20% cut). Windows is still a monopoly, and that would be the first thing vendors will scream about. That, and hobbyist devs (read: XDA types) will do whatever they want to do.
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I totally agree with you, but considering all of the bull MS reps have been spewing, anything can happen, including locking down the desktop on RT. Also, windows RT isn't windows anymore(according to MS), so there's no worries about a monopoly.
Still, I'm hoping for an open desktop on RT that will quickly fill up with powerful desktop apps.
I though it just was some apps that were being uploaded... but then again I took a deeper look at the Windows 8 Store and boom, there are a lot of apps, I can say there 300+ apps, and they're increasing, dunno how but let's see if somebody tell us what Microsoft did there.
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I though it just was some apps that were being uploaded... but then again I took a deeper look at the Windows 8 Store and boom, there are a lot of apps, I can say there 300+ apps, and they're increasing, dunno how but let's see if somebody tell us what Microsoft did there.
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Microsoft added the ability to charge for apps (both outright and in-app). That is why it seemed to increase dramatically. Authors that didn't want to give their apps away for free can sell them now, leading to more apps in the market.