S III Mini review - Galaxy S III Mini General

Hey, I took a little time and put together a short and comprehensive review about the mini flagship.
Highlights: same design, less processing power, same RAM, poorer camera, Jelly Bean out of the box and many more. Enjoy!

floiancu said:
Hey, I took a little time and put together a short and comprehensive review about the mini flagship.
Highlights: same design, less processing power, same RAM, poorer camera, Jelly Bean out of the box and many more. Enjoy!
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Did you mention the lack of Notifiaction LEDs as well?
Plus no adobe flash support.
I'm really annoyed about the notification LED issue. The S3 has a nice coloured LED to let you know of different waiting notifications. the S3 Mini has no LEDs at all. So if my phone is across the room and I have a missed call, I can't tell unless I go and pick the thing up and turn it on. poor!

thanx, my mom thinks about buying this phone, you really helped (;

thestonefox said:
Did you mention the lack of Notifiaction LEDs as well?
Plus no adobe flash support.
I'm really annoyed about the notification LED issue. The S3 has a nice coloured LED to let you know of different waiting notifications. the S3 Mini has no LEDs at all. So if my phone is across the room and I have a missed call, I can't tell unless I go and pick the thing up and turn it on. poor!
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Thanks for the opinion, but I think the issue of LED, is insignificant.
The S2 has no LED, but it is a great phone.

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Galaxy S Vibrant... Downsides?

Any phone I get will be limited to T-Mobile.
That said,
What phone should I get? Seems like the best two are the N1 and Vibrant?
Is there any advantage to the N1 over the Vibrant? Support worries me on the Vibrant is all. (IE, the custom community).
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It's hard to say since none of the US phones have released and the Galaxy S has only been out for so long internationally. Performance-wise, the Galaxy S' are much much better. The Galaxy S has already been rooted, I would assume that the US versions will also get the quick root, as well. Only advantage I see the Nexus One having over the Vibrant/Galaxy S variants is that it already has an established community. Though, given the same amount of time, I wouldn't be surprised if the Galaxy S had the same custom options. At least I hope so since this is a pretty major Android device.
I agree. The nexus has a huge community and since it runs stock android it has an advantage. it will also recieve OTAs before any other android phone and will always have a lead.. rooting aside.
with root however, id say the vibrant wins. spec wise it is the most powerful android phone available now, and root access lets u flash any custom roms.
of course some things tweaks are phone specific but if im not mistaken arent most roms compatible with all android phones pretty much making it a "shared" community?
while the vibrant is, at this point a slight unknown, i'd take a look at this nexus one support forum thread on google's web
it's a link to page 74, i'd jump back to about 72 and read forward
some folks have exchanged their nexus one 5 times (and there's actually more than a few that did multiple exchanges) and the exchanges are fairly expensive, considering the shipping costs etc
and google has announced it's not going to invest any more resources into fixing the issue
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=0c0fb2a46ad64955&hl=en&start=2920
I can live without the front facing camera or flash, but no notification light is a deal breaker for me.
I have a Nexus One, I ordered it on day one and haven't had to exchange it at all.
It's rock solid, fast and a great phone!
That being said, I love the concept of a dedicated GPU on the Vibrant as well as the fantastic picture and video quaility.
Same Megapixels, but the shots look so much clearer and the colors are more true coming from the Galaxy S phones.
As others have said, the community is great for the Nexus One, but I have no doubt it'll be just as great for the Vibrant.
I don't think I'll switch FROM the Nexus to the Vibrant, but if I had another phone and had to choose, I'd probably choose the Vibrant.
HTH
Allegedly the GPS on the SGS is horrid. I can live without the FFC and the LED flash, but you can't even give me a decent GPS on a so called premium phone? I'm rethinking this purchase.
From pure spec wise the Vibrant is an amazing phone. That being said Samsung doesn't have the best track record with Android phones. (The whole Behold 2 fiasco) With that said it has its own thread here on XDA so I suspect it will have a great community behind it, so even if Samsung support sucks XDA will take care of it.
cashless said:
Allegedly the GPS on the SGS is horrid. I can live without the FFC and the LED flash, but you can't even give me a decent GPS on a so called premium phone? I'm rethinking this purchase.
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not true, i just locked on my gps location in less than 10 seconds indoors
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From pure spec wise the Vibrant is an amazing phone. That being said Samsung doesn't have the best track record with Android phones. (The whole Behold 2 fiasco) With that said it has its own thread here on XDA so I suspect it will have a great community behind it, so even if Samsung support sucks XDA will take care of it.
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The Behold 2 was a single phone on a single carrier. They are releasing the Galaxy S worldwide on the top 6 carriers in the US. I feel they'll support this phone just a little bit better than the Behold 2.
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not true, i just locked on my gps location in less than 10 seconds indoors
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Great to hear! I heard some issues as well. Still not happy about no LED notification, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.
^ really, there is no notifications that blink? I hate audio... I depend on the light. Ouch.
i'm a little disappointed there is no notication light. in fact i hate it. is it that hard to put a little light there?
No notification LED and the slippery back case are my two bigest gripes so far.
tq745 said:
i'm a little disappointed there is no notication light. in fact i hate it. is it that hard to put a little light there?
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i dont really know what companies are thinning.....how hard is it to put a flash and an LED for notification. I mean some phones have 2 flashes ! what the hell was Sammy thinking ? I would even be ok if Flash/LED notification were combined together
No notification light is a deal breaker? Hahahahahaha
The Vibrant is a great phone.
Is it possible to create an app that blinks the screen every 10 secs or so? Use the screen as an indicator.
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Is it possible to create an app that blinks the screen every 10 secs or so? Use the screen as an indicator.
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There is one. called: FlashNotify
the problem here is that it will drain battery MUCH more then a LED would.
I think the back-light for buttons might be a good Notification option, but devs have to make it work....
Is this a big deal, YES. I wake up in the morning and I see blue light flashing.......guess what its SMS, I wake up and orange light is flashing, its Email......etc. I dont even need to touch the phone. Different colors for sms, gmail, email, facebook, missed call, voicemail, tweeter, etc...
and for those who think Sound Alerts is good too.....not really, I prefer flashing LED every 2-5 seconds at night (when i sleep) vs sounds every 5-10 minutes
The screen will just spoil other lesser ones for you. BIG downside!

A review from your average joe. DHD

This is my first android phone. I had the htc touch hd before but didn't flash or anything. I have to say android is great but does need some getting used to which is a fun element in its own aspect.
Desire HD is great !!!! When you heard it's fast, believe you think it's fast but you have no idea. It's instant...almost too fast for some people's liking...
I'm pretty sure you've read many reviews so i'll just cover main points.
First of all the back covers aren't that much of a hassle, i quite like that design with unibody design...although sure they could've used better plastic but it's not something you would care about.
The screen despite it being "normal LCD" is so amazing...it's so viabrant until i compared to sgs then i was like ehh...however watching images and movies...the sgs over did the colours and sharpness...Dhd just the perfect natural images. and oh yeah it's very very clear. AND BIG.
Battery i'm afraid isn't impressive...11 hours only but that may because it'd had all sync on's,everything on and heavy use since it's new...but 11 hours is still poor.
Now i'm not a photographer or anything but i thought the camera was great and the recording at 720p was amazing too but i'm not qualified to judge very accurately on that.
Now the speaker doesn't do this phone justice but don't get me wrong it's not that bad. I see people making it sound like it's hopeless..."I missed calls when the phone was next to me" ? is a complete lie...i have to say i heard the phone in the next room this morning while i was getting ready. It's "hearable" as in usable but it's still poor
but not deal breaker issues
Apart from that this is pretty much the perfect phone for a long time now...
unibody design with 4.3 inch screen? I don't think anything will match it very soon
I love this phone ...a bit too much...despite the bad battery life.
Android first timer as well.
So far, no regrets. A few complaints ( like the power button execution and the inadequate battery ) but nothing worth diminishing that grim on my face when I put on Avatar or Backbreaker in the gaps btw lectures at uni and immediately theres a crowd of 20 DHD-owner wannabes on my head. They say the best advertisement is making someth brilliant and lettin it speak for itself. Well those korean muffies it. Period ;]
my only regret is I cannot have 3g on my carrier (rogers)..... so I am in limbo right now.... so with no 3g and usb debugging on, the battery lasts me all day... I turn off wifi and gps when not in use.... if I decide to keep the phone, I will get another battery....
I also love the phone, but I am very disappointed in the camera and flash.... If I look at a yellow piece of paper through the phone, it looks white.... the screen and photos look washed.... but I do love the size. Wifi is so fast and smooth on this phone....
adding the otterbox case, makes the power button and volume rocker much more accessible....
Over all, a great phone.... but I do not know if I can make it without 3g
Hey good Review...liked u being very frank in the review. considering you are a first timer...this device is gonna keep u busy for atleast some time...as u pointed out...its gonna take some time of getting used to...but u won't regret the time spent learning this...
I don't want HTC to come back next month introducing a Duo core processor with the same screen size[4.3" is Just right] and better battery life with more RAM..Now i hate that
Until you've flashed a custom rom and oc kernel...only then can you say its fast hahaha...because trust me...stock is not that fast at all...
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rixsta said:
Until you've flashed a custom rom and oc kernel...only then can you say its fast hahaha...because trust me...stock is not that fast at all...
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Well i considered this fast...I'll wait a little while before flashing, i need to learn everything since i don't even know what kernal is...
v6kgang said:
I don't want HTC to come back next month introducing a Duo core processor with the same screen size[4.3" is Just right] and better battery life with more RAM..Now i hate that
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They will come out with duo core processors early 2011 ( but then again there's always delay on everything these days) secondally i heard it'll be useless...since you don't need that much processing power.
never the less it may be usefull with other features released in the future. They won't make a 4.3 inch duo core soon enough...might start off with a 3.7 then that uni body design won't be duplicated till ages.
A 3.7 dual core handset would be just great but I can't see it coming any time soon. The trend seems now to be more towards 4" plus. Still having the debate with myself whether the 4.3 inches of the dhd is just too much or whether the trade offs are worth it. Then of course there is the small matter of £500 if I want it in a reasonable timescale!
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I also love the phone, but I am very disappointed in the camera and flash.... If I look at a yellow piece of paper through the phone, it looks white....
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Change your White Balance setting
mixedape said:
Change your White Balance setting
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+1, although the auto white balance is terrible and should be much better than it is.
Gurps777 said:
They will come out with duo core processors early 2011 ( but then again there's always delay on everything these days) secondally i heard it'll be useless...since you don't need that much processing power.
never the less it may be usefull with other features released in the future. They won't make a 4.3 inch duo core soon enough...might start off with a 3.7 then that uni body design won't be duplicated till ages.
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Lets just hope so...Considering this is the Best phone of the Current lot...i want it to stay so for some time atleast
A comment on the flush power button. I see many people complained (including myself) about the power button being hard to press and effort to reach since it's on top of the phone...you have to curve your finger around it kinda...if you get what i mean...I figured...since the headphone jack is on the bottom now ( it makes sense for wires to hang at the bottom when you hold it - personally i like the initiative..) hence you would put the phone upside down in your pocket and it'll easily press the power button in some cases...I think that may be the reason for flush power button...But since the volume keys are also flush...i guess there's a chance they've just messed it up...but never the less i found the power button useful in some aspect...
Hold the phone in 1 hand while pressing the power button in the other hand
Simples
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General thoughts so far....

For those of you that now have this phone, what are your thoughts? I'm liking this phone more and more but do I need it, well, not really. I'm perfectly happy with my Nexus 4 running PA but there's something about this that has me wanting it. I think part of it is the fact that it's kind of the underdog. It will be exciting to see what the dev's come up with, ROM wise. Anyway, my brain is just spinning as usual, haha.
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For those of you that now have this phone, what are your thoughts? I'm liking this phone more and more but do I need it, well, not really. I'm perfectly happy with my Nexus 4 running PA but there's something about this that has me wanting it. I think part of it is the fact that it's kind of the underdog. It will be exciting to see what the dev's come up with, ROM wise. Anyway, my brain is just spinning as usual, haha.
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I'm coming from a sony X10 but the oppo find 5 is working good, I had no dead pixels everything worked out of the box.
I have some problems with contact syncing and gmail updates. Photographs are beautiful, but HDR is not really good on dark spots. (lots of noise because of ISO value's)
I did not wanted the nexus 4 because of the glass back. But I think I would also be happy with the nexus 4. But it is overpriced in the Netherlands, my oppo is cheaper then the nexus 4.
It is super fast compared to my X10. No idea how fast the nexus 4 is.
I think you can better donate some money to charity instead of buying yet another high-end phone
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previous phone: HTC Sensation
+ Display: WOW! youtube trailer in HD and people start peeping their eyes out!
+ Sound: I never heard a phone playing it sounds like this
+ Speed: I changed the default (ugly) launcher to APEX, this give's the phone a better feel
+ Camera: Although my previous phone was already 2 year old hence i cannot compare it to recent in-phone-camera's it looks great
+ Desgin: It is sharp but not too sharp edged, it's light and thin. the phone is big in size but because its slim dimensions you will not notice it in your jeans (unless you wear skinny jeans i guess, but who does that )
- Temperature when under load, i feel the device is getting pretty warm, your hands start being sweatty.
- Stock UI
Display
Simply Amazing. Bright & Crisp.
However, the screen responsiveness to your touch isn't very good. I find myself having to tap many things twice or three times to get it registered.​Battery
Terrible. It seems to be draining even while sleeping.
My usual morning routine, I unplugged the phone from the charger. It's charged to 100% over night. I do a few light tasks like replying to text messages, flipping through Flipboard, see one 30 sec YouTube video, brightness setting at 50%.
After 20 minutes of usage, my battery gotten down from 100% to 78%.​Speaker
Nice and loud. Best, I have ever heard. But, when you lay it on its back, the speaker will be completely muffled.​Camera
Sucks. 13MP only in spirit. Colors are over saturated. And, the balance isn't there. Lots of graininess in images, even in ample light. Also, don't use the LED flash. Your pictures will be almost all blown white. Absolutely no setting like macro, scene mode, white balance, panaroma, etc.. Just point and shoot and hope for the best...and often times, it isn't.
My 8MP Nexus and 5MP iPad Mini can take picture and video much better.​Stock Launcher
The widgets are fugly. Period.​Build Quality
Strong like my unibody Macbook Pro. However, the power and volume rockers shifts around. The micro USB port is weak. I feel like I'm gonna break that port anytime soon.​Software
Random reboots at least twice or three times a day. No idea why. I feel like I'm using Windows 95 all over again. Oh, and Gmail doesn't open up. Yeah, seriously, Gmail DOES NOT work on this phone. I have to use the other mail app instead. Latest firmware & Gmail update.
Software is actually 4.1, not 4.2. Coming from Nexus 4, that was a let down. I miss the swype style keyboard on 4.2.​ROM
Currently, as of late March, no ROMs​Side Note
USB wall charger & headphones look EXACTLY like the ones for iPhones. Apple will be calling them soon, if not already.​
Conclusion
Beauty & the Beast.......okay, maybe just the Beauty and not much else.​
Interesting perspective, thanks for sharing. Hopefully a lot of these things can be fixed with future updates. What's the deal with the Gmail not working and is this something that OPPO is aware of?
I really am happy with the phone. Looks great and stands out in the crowd. Screen is fabulous. It's a new kid on the block, so there are a few things that are not quite there yet. But it seems Oppo are really working hard to make a proper go at this. So far weekly updates and regular fixes. I attached a simple benchmark to give you an idea of the spec. I'm sure there are better performers out there, but it seems to hold it's own!
It seems that my take is a lot different than other peoples on the board, or maybe I got really lucky and got the perfect unit, My Droid DNA is in my drawer and my Oppo Find 5 is sitting on my coffee table right now. All I have to say is wow I am really quite surprised with the device, and I have a Droid DNA now, and my previous device was HTC One X International Version. So I have saw some very nice displays lately, and the Oppo Find 5 is right up there with the best of them, it handles its own. The only fault was that I got my Oppo Find 5 with 1 stuck pixel, you don't even notice it only if you look for it when it’s on the black part while its booting up, once the screen comes on you can’t even see it.
+ Display is really NICE! 1 pixel stuck, on par with Droid DNA SLCD3 and just as bright so you don't have to turn it up that far and waste battery.
+ Build Quality I can’t say enough about this, this thing feels like I could Drop it off the roof and it would last.
+ The All black front display looks so good just as nice or better than the One X, and it has that nice curve in the glass that makes it nice to use.
+ I haven't tried the stock ear buds, but with my Sony ear buds, this thing sounds great, no distortion at all, with bass high, all amps sound good.
+ The stock speaker is also a pleasant surprise, it sounds really good at high volume levels also, when set right, no distortion and it gets loud
+ I stuck with the default launcher to give it a try and it is pretty smooth, has a really nice settings layout. I may switch, it reminds me of MIUI
+ The camera is just as good as my HTC DNA, I don't remember which review said it was about like about like an 8MP LG, It shots fine pictures.
+ The white matte finish does not leave any fingerprints and the screen must have that stuff to keep fingerprints off it also, it barley gets fingerprints
+ I have ran plenty of benchmarks and my unit did not get hot at all as someone said, maybe I wasn't holding it where it was getting hot at on their device?
+ The complete design is what really shines on this phone on the outside, it looks so sleek, and I have already caught people glancing and looking at it, and I have only owned it for one day, if that says anything at all?
+ or - Don't know enough about battery life yet but so far mine seems to be holding up better today, now that it is on its second charge, With a full HD Display you have got to know how to manage your battery, turn things off that you are not using at the time, it worked on my One X and that thing was a nightmare. On my One X I also disabled all my apps that I didn't ever use. At least until we get Roms that will take out all the bloat junk. Today my battery is doing really well almost 2 hours screen time and 76% left.
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-- I would have to say that the launcher would have been better stock, but I like trying new things out. I really hope Paranoid Android comes to this phone that will be my rom of choice. I already know CM and MIUI are coming soon.
-- The Ugly widgets, Oppo have so many better widgets on their other phones (Oppo Finder, Oppo Way, Oppo 3?) all those widgets look better IMO. I wish I could replace them somehow by switching APKs; maybe someone knows how and could let me know?
-- Contrast I like the over saturated look we have a developer that is working on a kernel or app to set your display just how you like it, at least I think so anyway?- hopefully we can get this fixed soon I know it’s being worked on by paperweistage and his kernel hopefully he gets it figures out, but if you want to help he is looking for some help in his kernel thread, He is looking for JDI Display white-sheets. So help out if you can
And support our developer, that’s how we eventually get more custom Kernel Roms and Apps. Donate to them a couple dollars for a cold one or a coffee.
-- or + It is a little bit on the heavy side but look how it’s made! Some could call this a negative but I left it neutral because it is well balanced and with a full metal frame inside around it, I don't really mind it weighing 20 extra grams, at least hopefully my phone won’t shatter into a thousand pieces if it falls on the ground.
Add more later after I use it awhile longer.
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drvsbsm, awesome review! I was checking the OPPO forums earlier and was really getting mixed thoughts on the phone. I know this phone is new and things are just getting started and I think that is some of what's driving me to it. I remember when the Nokia N9 came out with it's Hartmann/Meego OS, I fell in love with that thing and it was pretty much a dead platform when released. It looks like OPPO is keeping up with bug fixes and putting out updates so that's a good sign. Most of all though, I think the thing is SEXY, a beautiful device.
I'm guessing the vendor on Amazon is the place to get it from, the one located in HK?
Thanks again guys!
Very , very good rewiew !
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Display
Simply Amazing​Battery
Terrible. It seems to be draining even while sleeping​Speaker
Nice and loud.​Camera
Sucks. My 8MP Nexus and 5MP iPad Mini can take picture and video much better. Absolutely no setting like scene mode, white balance, panaroma, etc in stock camera app​Stock Launcher
The widgets are fugly. Period.​Build Quality
Strong like my unibody Macbook Pro. However, the power and volume rockers shifts around. The micro USB port is weak. I feel like I'm gonna break that port anytime soon.​Software
Random reboots at least twice or three times a day. No idea why. I feel like I'm using Windows 95 all over again. Oh, and Gmail doesn't open up. Yeah, seriously, Gmail DOES NOT work on this phone. I have to use the other mail app instead.​ROM
Currently, as of late March, no ROMs​Side Note
USB wall charger & headphones look EXACTLY like the ones for iPhones. Apple will be calling them soon, if not already.​
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+1...... The good think is that the almost everything can be repaired (soft related )
Video camera isn't that very good.
Video is okay if the subject stands still. However, when subject runs or any fast moments, then video gets blurry or ghosting.
For example, here's a video of my daughter at her Taekwondo practice. Notice how she gets blurry when she starts running?
http://youtu.be/ln_2YvN6f78
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Video camera isn't that very good.
Video is okay if the subject stands still. However, when subject runs or any fast moments, then video gets blurry or ghosting.
For example, here's a video of my daughter at her Taekwondo practice. Notice how she gets blurry when she starts running?
http://youtu.be/ln_2YvN6f78
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Hopefully this will be addressed as OPPO is releasing an update within a few days for camera related issues.
I have a question about the screen durability. I read somewhere, maybe GSMArena, that the screen rippled very easily and was a bit flexible. That sounds very concerning. I've also heard a few things about poor touchscreen response. This may also be hardware only problem that can't be fixed with any updates.
A lot of these smaller phone makers can just buy off the shelf parts (figuratively) and bulid their own phone. They don't need to develop their own hardware components, just how everything fits together and the overall design. The camera is an Exmor RS from Sony, and the screen is probably a 1080p panel from Sharp. Of course the processor is Qualcomm.
The biggest problem these small relatively no name companies face is the software. It's the brains that makes the smartphone smart, and having a small and inexperienced team, especially while trying to make your own skin, can lead to many shortcomings, from bugs to performance issues to compatibility to poor hardware utilization and battery life. A lot of this stuff even the big boys have trouble with and they have far bigger teams with far more experience. Oppo should go the route that BLU is taking in the future. BLU has a really horrible skin, allegedly, and unstable and buggy phones, but they are supposedly putting stock Android on their new Life series line of phones.
From what I've gathered, the screen is made by JDI?
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I have a question about the screen durability. I read somewhere, maybe GSMArena, that the screen rippled very easily and was a bit flexible. That sounds very concerning. I've also heard a few things about poor touchscreen response. This may also be hardware only problem that can't be fixed with any updates.
A lot of these smaller phone makers can just buy off the shelf parts (figuratively) and bulid their own phone. They don't need to develop their own hardware components, just how everything fits together and the overall design. The camera is an Exmor RS from Sony, and the screen is probably a 1080p panel from Sharp. Of course the processor is Qualcomm.
The biggest problem these small relatively no name companies face is the software. It's the brains that makes the smartphone smart, and having a small and inexperienced team, especially while trying to make your own skin, can lead to many shortcomings, from bugs to performance issues to compatibility to poor hardware utilization and battery life. A lot of this stuff even the big boys have trouble with and they have far bigger teams with far more experience. Oppo should go the route that BLU is taking in the future. BLU has a really horrible skin, allegedly, and unstable and buggy phones, but they are supposedly putting stock Android on their new Life series line of phones.
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The screen is from JDI. seems pretty sturdy to me. They seem to be keeping on top of things. But they have a very good reputation in the high end Av community. It's also not their 1st phone. Just their first soiree in the international market.
I have had my Find 5 for more than a week now sans screen protector. Unfortunately, there are lots of micro scratches already. And, I'm very conscious about where I put and use my phone.
Same practice, my Nexus 4 fair much better even after six months of usage.
All in all, have screen protector or don't have too long of finger nails.
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I have a question about the screen durability. I read somewhere, maybe GSMArena, that the screen rippled very easily and was a bit flexible. That sounds very concerning. I've also heard a few things about poor touchscreen response. This may also be hardware only problem that can't be fixed with any updates.
A lot of these smaller phone makers can just buy off the shelf parts (figuratively) and bulid their own phone. They don't need to develop their own hardware components, just how everything fits together and the overall design. The camera is an Exmor RS from Sony, and the screen is probably a 1080p panel from Sharp. Of course the processor is Qualcomm.
The biggest problem these small relatively no name companies face is the software. It's the brains that makes the smartphone smart, and having a small and inexperienced team, especially while trying to make your own skin, can lead to many shortcomings, from bugs to performance issues to compatibility to poor hardware utilization and battery life. A lot of this stuff even the big boys have trouble with and they have far bigger teams with far more experience. Oppo should go the route that BLU is taking in the future. BLU has a really horrible skin, allegedly, and unstable and buggy phones, but they are supposedly putting stock Android on their new Life series line of phones.
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New firmware 328,it has camera fixes...
No marked improvement or fixes to camera with latest firmware.
Just new feature: panorama.
Oppo should focus on fixing all the basic camera problems, rather than, adding gimmick useless feature.
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No marked improvement or fixes to camera with latest firmware.
Just new feature: panorama.
Oppo should focus on fixing all the basic camera problems, rather than, adding gimmick useless feature.
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Wow knite please get back to your iphone.
They tweaked a bit around with the iso settings. But not something really spectaculair.
At least they did something. Most companies will be like :"DEAL WITH IT!"
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Wow knite please get back to your iphone.
They tweaked a bit around with the iso settings. But not something really spectaculair.
At least they did something. Most companies will be like :"DEAL WITH IT!"
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Most company would release software when it's ready and in decent condition for general public consumption... Not beta....or alpha in this case.
Check the camera... Aside from poor image quality.... Do see any basic features like:
Macro
White Balance
Scene Mode
As a matter of fact, on Oppo forums, lots of threads and discussion on how poor the pictures and video are turning out... Oppo just ignore them...basically, saying "DEAL WITH IT!"
Instead, they spent their finite limited development resources in adding useless Panorama feature. When is the last time you took a panorama picture, aside from just wanting to see how it works?
I took a panorama earlier at dinner actually. I did the update out of the box and didn't know it added that so that's cool lol.
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[Review/Rant] What HTC did wrong

Before I get booed by the HTC One commiunity kindly be informed that I have been a proud owner of HTC One since it launched in my region, the flaws I am about to mention are nothing but mere observations that I think HTC should have paid a bit more attention to.
The lack of battery percentage
Why no native battery percentage out of the box (Yes I know its an android phone and there are plenty of apps that could replicate the function) but, we al know that its not hard to add and for the life of me I just can't understand why it was not include it in the official ROM.
LED
SIZE does matter, I think the notification LED is small and weak, its not very visible from not a very far distance. Not multicolored which I find annoying but it wouldn't have mattered really since it barely visible. Last but least I tend to charge my phone a lot it glows orange which is cool but it doesn't blink when you get a text or a missed call (at least this one is fixable).
Weak haptic feedback
I always turn haptic feedback off, but with the HTC One I have been having some issues with the buttons sensitivity so I have decided to keep it on since it makes it a lot easier to figure out if you touched the actual button or not. Sadly, the haptic feedback is weak any simple comparison between the HTC One ( the silver One is freaking sexy... had to be said somewhere in this stupid rant) and any other phone would easily prove that.
Power button placement
Need I talk about this? I know its probably due to internal hardware alignment but I have to mention that the power button placement is just not user friendly at all.
Man I feel better, thanks for listening guys.

			
				
ahmad.magdy said:
Man I feel better, thanks for listening guys.
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No problem:good:
although some of these points are somewhat valid in a way if they are a deal breaker just don't buy the phone lol
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Never said that they are I love my HTC one it's just a mini rant.
Oh add no close all on task switching page
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Didn't they fix the battery percentage with today's update? I do agree with the power button placement, that is bad. For haptic feedback no idea since I never use it and led is good enough for me.
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4.2.2 adds the battery percentage natively. Using ARHD right now for 4.2.2. I have no issues with the notification LED. It's bright enough for me and having 2 colors only isn't an issue since it does what I want it to do. The hepatic feedback is a bit weak but I like it since I can still feel it a bit but it isn't so high that it's annoying. Could be just a bit higher though. I prefer it to be lower rather than overly high. Also I love the placement of the power button. I think power buttons that are on the side of the device just look stupid. Functionality is nice I guess but no way do I want it on the side. I have no problems reaching it and I think it looks better. If it's that big an issue custom roms add volume buttons to wake.
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I think my only issue is power button placement .
i'd love an RGB led lasting longer than 5 minutes
install swipe home from Google play..makes htc logo feel like a button .you can customize it to your likings too...lemme know if I helped
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Well the percentage option is coming.
The LED should have been multicolored. As far as brightness I kind of appreciate that it is not as bright and large as the one on my GS3 though.
Wish the Haptic Feedback was customizable as well. Maybe a future update can add that feature.
Power button placement blows my mind as well. Not sure why they have been so stubborn about this. I dont mind much but can't imagine how folks with smaller hands deal.
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ahmad.magdy said:
Before I get booed by the HTC One commiunity kindly be informed that I have been a proud owner of HTC One since it launched in my region, the flaws I am about to mention are nothing but mere observations that I think HTC should have paid a bit more attention to.
The lack of battery percentage
Why no native battery percentage out of the box (Yes I know its an android phone and there are plenty of apps that could replicate the function) but, we al know that its not hard to add and for the life of me I just can't understand why it was not include it in the official ROM.
LED
SIZE does matter, I think the notification LED is small and weak, its not very visible from not a very far distance. Not multicolored which I find annoying but it wouldn't have mattered really since it barely visible. Last but least I tend to charge my phone a lot it glows orange which is cool but it doesn't blink when you get a text or a missed call (at least this one is fixable).
Weak haptic feedback
I always turn haptic feedback off, but with the HTC One I have been having some issues with the buttons sensitivity so I have decided to keep it on since it makes it a lot easier to figure out if you touched the actual button or not. Sadly, the haptic feedback is weak any simple comparison between the HTC One ( the silver One is freaking sexy... had to be said somewhere in this stupid rant) and any other phone would easily prove that.
Power button placement
Need I talk about this? I know its probably due to internal hardware alignment but I have to mention that the power button placement is just not user friendly at all.
Man I feel better, thanks for listening guys.
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Lack of battery percentage? Find an app on the play store and done. Plus its coming in 4.2.2 ( in fact you can flash ARHD 10.0 and voila).
LED? Do you need to see your notification from Jupiter? The LED is strong and you cant miss it.
Weak haptic feedback? Get over it.
Power button placement? Ok you're right, its awful.
about battery percentage I mentioned in my post that a LOT of apps could replicate the function but I think HTC should have included it in the final product.
LED nope I don't think it's strong enough,it's a matter of personal preference I guess.
As for haptic feedback these devices go under testing for at least a couple of months before release, you would think that someone would notice that is freaking weak, I am just seeking the perfect phone man you know ?
And the powe button... Just the worst placment ever it looks nice but functionality wise is just not all that.
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That's exactly what I am talking about
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@OP, after all those rants, does it help you sleep at night ?
I'm loving my HTC One. My only real gripe is the unresponsive back and home keys. I don't mind the led colors or where the power button is. As I mentioned in another posting, I hope my provider updates the firmware shortly to fix that problem.
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ahmad.magdy said:
Before I get booed by the HTC One commiunity kindly be informed that I have been a proud owner of HTC One since it launched in my region, the flaws I am about to mention are nothing but mere observations that I think HTC should have paid a bit more attention to.
The lack of battery percentage
Why no native battery percentage out of the box (Yes I know its an android phone and there are plenty of apps that could replicate the function) but, we al know that its not hard to add and for the life of me I just can't understand why it was not include it in the official ROM.
LED
SIZE does matter, I think the notification LED is small and weak, its not very visible from not a very far distance. Not multicolored which I find annoying but it wouldn't have mattered really since it barely visible. Last but least I tend to charge my phone a lot it glows orange which is cool but it doesn't blink when you get a text or a missed call (at least this one is fixable).
Weak haptic feedback
I always turn haptic feedback off, but with the HTC One I have been having some issues with the buttons sensitivity so I have decided to keep it on since it makes it a lot easier to figure out if you touched the actual button or not. Sadly, the haptic feedback is weak any simple comparison between the HTC One ( the silver One is freaking sexy... had to be said somewhere in this stupid rant) and any other phone would easily prove that.
Power button placement
Need I talk about this? I know its probably due to internal hardware alignment but I have to mention that the power button placement is just not user friendly at all.
Man I feel better, thanks for listening guys.
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Battery % - Is coming with 4.2.2. Just wait for it.....
LED - Multicolor is preferred, but does it really that matters to you since you will be checking what's new anyways? I do agree that the LED should blink or change to green when something new happened during charging.
Haptic feedback - Stronger feedback means more power consumption. Are you using it as a vibrator? I find the call vibrations are pretty good though.
Power button - Well true. Is kinda hard to reach and difficult for making screen shots. Just a matter of getting used to it.
All brands have their individual faults. As long as these cons do not affect my daily usages alot, I'm fine with them.
This is just a guess....but does anyone think they put the power button on the top due to it acting as the IR as well? Might have something to do with it?
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My list:
1) Missing recents capacitive button. I loved it on my nexus 4, don't see why they axed it, considering it was on the One S.
2) Autobrightness is a bit higher than normal. If they were smart they would have set it at or lower than the Galaxy S3 so that battery life would be better. Setting an average brightness that is higher than your competitors just makes for more cannon fodder when people are comparing battery stats.
3) I'd prefer the camera to take a few extra ms to make sure the image is focused, rather than shoot 0.00001 faster and end up with a blurry image.
4) Add a widget for beats. Going into the settings to toggle it on and off is a PITA.
5) Attempting to reinvent the wheel with how the launcher works. If it ain't broke, don't start trying to change things. It'll only confuse new AND old users (hell if the average android fan doesn't understand how the dock works then how do you expect a newcomer to android to understand?)
But realistically, all these are nitpicking. Overall the phone is great and I'm very happy with how it runs now.
ahmad.magdy said:
The lack of battery percentage
Why no native battery percentage out of the box (Yes I know its an android phone and there are plenty of apps that could replicate the function) but, we al know that its not hard to add and for the life of me I just can't understand why it was not include it in the official ROM.
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Battery % just clutters the interface and makes you constantly worry about the battery but even still it's in the new update
LED
SIZE does matter, I think the notification LED is small and weak, its not very visible from not a very far distance. Not multicolored which I find annoying but it wouldn't have mattered really since it barely visible. Last but least I tend to charge my phone a lot it glows orange which is cool but it doesn't blink when you get a text or a missed call (at least this one is fixable).
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It looks stylish the way they managed to hide it in the speaker grill and I never have trouble seeing it
Weak haptic feedback
I always turn haptic feedback off, but with the HTC One I have been having some issues with the buttons sensitivity so I have decided to keep it on since it makes it a lot easier to figure out if you touched the actual button or not. Sadly, the haptic feedback is weak any simple comparison between the HTC One ( the silver One is freaking sexy... had to be said somewhere in this stupid rant) and any other phone would easily prove that.
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Haptic feedback does feel a lot better on Samsung devices, somehow it always feels rattling on HTC
Power button placement
Need I talk about this? I know its probably due to internal hardware alignment but I have to mention that the power button placement is just not user friendly at all.
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When I went from Desire to SGS2 it took me a while to get used to power button on the side and I was annoyed by the fact Samsung put it on the side. And when I went from SGS2 to HOX it took me a while to get used to button on top again. You will get used to it, it'snot hard to reach and the power button now is the IR transmitter, so they mananged to stylishly hide that
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erikikaz said:
2) Autobrightness is a bit higher than normal. If they were smart they would have set it at or lower than the Galaxy S3 so that battery life would be better. Setting an average brightness that is higher than your competitors just makes for more cannon fodder when people are comparing battery stats.
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I like the screen bright but what having a One has done it that it makes all other screens look dull, dim and too warm/yellow in comparison, even my HOX!

Does 6T Disappoint you ??

I realize I. might upset the hardcore Fanboys here,but I'm a little disappointed in my OP6T,The phone is great,but I feel it hasn't got as much support as it's predecessors in terms of updates so far and it's software experience so far has just been okay,
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The only thing that bothers me is the absence of a LED NOTIFICATION light.
Camera could have been better but it's usable.
Other than that, the device itself is amazing.
Before the purchase I had big concerns because of some bad reviews and some comments in this forum (no headphone jack, annoying fingerprint scanner, missing led, screen brightness).
However, after using it, I have to say, that it is great. It is the best phone I ever had (came from multiple samsung devices: galaxy m, galaxy s5, galaxy s8+).
I noticed, that I dont miss any of that things mentioned above with the OP6T.
So for me, it was the other way around: Before purchase, major concerns. After purchase, I feel really happy with the phone.
One thing I don't like about this device is the fingerprint it lags sometimes other brands like oppo and vivo phones have faster fingerprint responsive in display fingerprints.
Al3xxxinho said:
The only thing that bothers me is the absence of a LED NOTIFICATION light.
Camera could have been better but it's usable.
Other than that, the device itself is amazing.
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Love my 6T. No disappointment. But I really wish they had I included the notification LED also.
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I bought the McLaren edition, thinking I would have a nice phone for about two years, BUT, my phone suffering from considerable oled uniformity. The fact is that it has the absolutely worst oled screen I've ever seen. And it takes away all the joy of using the phone. I'm super mega disappointed just because of the bad screen.
Notification led missing, but replaced with Plus Beat app. Of course i prefer notification LED.
Camera it's good in day light. At night i sleep.
The updates are GOOD. 6T just caugth chinese hollydays. What phone gives you updates once at 2 weeks ? (open betas)
Fingerprint and some other apps lags because of deep sleep, baterry savings.
Only BIG disappointment for me it's front camera! I never do seflie. It's LAME !
Interesting to read your comments,having come from op3 and last year went from the 6 to 6T,I am disappointed not least because the 6 is a better phone this year than the T, besides the battery life,
really wish they could have fitted in the led somewhere and kept the rear fingerprint scanner,also feel like they just put the in display sensor there for the sake of it,because they ran fresh out of selling points, I'm not even sure they'll keep it for the 7,
Also there has been a lack of quality updates for the 6T in terms of optimizations for camera and fingerprint,
I'm keeping my eye on the xaomi mi 9 thinking that thing is gonna be cheaper than the 7 and comes with a whole load of awesome features like 48mp camera,quick wireless charge.I stick with OnePlus for community and betas,but there prices are gonna be mental soon compared to competition.
Not sure OnePlus is worth settling for anymore when compared to competition
I'm disappointed in the dropped *Universal Audio port* 0 reason for this.. The notification LED 0 reason for this, the inferior FP sensor that gets slower every time I use it and just repeatedly rejects my left thumb no matter where I place it or how many times I re enrol it..
The garbage single speaker and output over the type C port, I thought they would of improved the DAC by now. Luckily for me I bought a KZ Type C cable that has it's own bundled DAC so it's a little better than the one included in the phone.
The garbage camera software and budget Sony sensors... Still cutting corners and making same old mistakes. They wanna be premium now and charge almost flagship money. Yet can't give a good camera experience.
Buggy OOS same old bugs that ruin the experience.... No camera blobs what they promised in the OP3 and no source for the FP sensor is just taking the p**s, Luckily we have gcam ports and Talented devs to port the fp sensor functionality to AOSP based roms.
For me if they don't improve the audio or camera won't be buying future devices. OP3 launched at £309 with basically the same experience, Yet the OP6T is £499 and still paying for the same old "Mid range hardware and cut corners" nothing warrants the price increase.
never!
I've had the McLaren edition for about a month. Whereas I can understand some of the common complaints others have about the device, I personally remain very happy with my purchase. I have had a lot of fun with this device and the pros about the device far outweigh the cons.
I find that these days it is hard to find the perfect device for me mainly because of the development community which is very important to me. The inability to unlock bootloaders and have a robust development community on other devices immediately rule those devices out. At this point, I feel I'll stay with Oneplus devices or try out a Pixel at some point. I just feel that what you get with Oneplus for the money provides a very high ROI.
So, no, I am not disappointed and am rather having fun learning new mods and enjoying my sleek special edition device. :good:
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The only thing that bothers me is the absence of a LED NOTIFICATION light.
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In today's world all that light does is stay permanently on. Back in '05 it made sense before there was a new notification every 10 minutes for something or another.
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In today's world all that light does is stay permanently on. Back in '05 it made sense before there was a new notification every 10 minutes for something or another.
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I completely disagree.
Every Android device I ever had before was able to use that light plus the Light Flow app, to silently notify me of different types of notifications. Blue for emails from friends, purple for email to my account shared with wife, yellow for commercial things like bills, red for incoming texts, white for voicemail waiting. Flashing in sequence for combinations of these.
No ring, no vibration to distract a meeting, and I could discretely look down at the other wise dark phone at any time and know what's up, or see it from across the kitchen.
It used almost no battery and was completely unobtrusive.
Bring back the LED!
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Only with the in-screen fp sensor. It's a gimmick that solves no problem and is sub-standard compared to rear fp sensor that preceded it.
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I completely disagree.
Every Android device I ever had before was able to use that light plus the Light Flow app, to silently notify me of different types of notifications. Blue for emails from friends, purple for email to my account shared with wife, yellow for commercial things like bills, red for incoming texts, white for voicemail waiting. Flashing in sequence for combinations of these.
No ring, no vibration to distract a meeting, and I could discretely look down at the other wise dark phone at any time and know what's up, or see it from across the kitchen.
It used almost no battery and was completely unobtrusive.
Bring back the LED!
Well, you should check out NoLED app. You can do most all of the above! I have every type of notification color coded and the dot(s) appear on the screen (and moves around to prevent any burn-in). Doesn't seem to use a lot of battery for me. :good:
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So far I am loving the 6T! I just went to the Verizon store and tried to talk my wife into letting me buy the S10. I do my normal routine and explain to her,,,as she is ignoring me LOL,, that the new S10 has all these new features and improvements. But, what really happened is that I talked myself out of buying the S10. I just couldn't justify spending 380 (which is what it would have been after trading in my older S9 and the Teacher discount she gets). The ram was the same, storage size the same, touch wiz in any form can be a pain (even though the new UI is pretty good I have to admit). It just wasnt that big of an upgrade to me. After putting a wireless charging receiver inside the case of my 6T now I have wireless charging, I am completely content.
this phone sucks....
i don't get why so many said its good phone or the best phone at all
i am actually having problem with dual sim, it won't lock to my data sim and it keeps on switching to the non data sim after i leave my house and wifi get disconnected so i have to manually switch back to my data everytime, its so annoying
also the finger print its a joke...its better off using face or pin
bluetooth keeps disconnect occasionally when it connected my car's bluetooth, not sure why and not sure why sometimes works
vibrate is very weak that missed all the calls and notifications
double tap to wake up doesn't work 100 percent of the time, maybe 80 percent work
with this price point, its sucks, its a super annoying phone
Must be worth something for TMobile to be offering a trade in value of 390 for it if you're buying the Galaxy S10.
I'm not disappointed as I did my research and knew what to expect from the phone from this price point. I do miss the stereo speakers set up and led notification but other than that it's a good phone.
If people want all the bells and whistles then they are going to have to spend £1000 on Samsung or Huawei. There are competition out there for OnePlus at the similar price point but they also make compromises sadly, like the Mi 9 looks great on paper but still mono speaker and early reviews say it's laggy.

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