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Official ICS 4.0 ota for nexus s 4g before late galaxy nexus.

I just wanted to know if Google releases the ics ota for the nexus s 4g should I just stick with it instead of upgrading fully to Mac daddy galaxy nexus. I hope they release it on the sale date of the GN or before. Just want to hear some thoughts.
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I'm getting the galaxy nexus.
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But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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treyweez11 said:
But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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I already have ics on my nexus s4g. I just want the bigger screen and HD superamoled display
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treyweez11 said:
But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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The official ota isn't going to make ICS any better. The only thing it will do is add the word official to ICS.
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Yeah I get what you guys are saying because I have been flashing ics roms all week. But doesn't Google do a better job at building ics and optimization
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being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...

from my experience stock roms run the best. i always have some kind of issue that brings me back to stock. i would love an official ics build soon.

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being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...
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I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.

Not only that, but I'm positive that Google has specification and performance information on the phone's hardware that the average ROM developer will simply never have. I agree, custom ROMs are fun to play with, but for everyday use, you'll never beat a stock ROM.

supralover72 said:
I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.
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so....
their rollout stopped
and the rom avalanche started
hmmmm
...you are
obviously correct tho...
and i'm sure they havnt looked at any
of the code floating around here

the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news

lol when the official ics gets here we will have nothing to look forward to lol.
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just install it, you'll like it
it's on the Stickies

Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
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AllGamer said:
the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news
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By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.

bozzykid said:
By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.
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LOL well i was thinking it was released last year
but technically it's only 5 days short to a month
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Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
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that's not stable enough for my taste yet
stock original ICS from google is currently running better

AllGamer said:
LOL well i was thinking it was released last year
but technically it's only 5 days short to a month
that's not stable enough for my taste yet
stock original ICS from google is currently running better
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I'm on kang 15 and steve.garons latest kernel. You and I have very different opinions of stable. Mine is top notch. No hiccups. If u want to wait, by all means, I was...then broke down and the current roms are fantastic.
It takes less than 5mins to root, make a backup, copy that backup yo PC, then unlock boot loader and flash a new rom. If u don't like it, there always that backup you can restore. Too easy to sit around and complain when there are alternatives

I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)
Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho

hp420 said:
I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)
Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho
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I can't help but agree that ota is most stable But I feel the same way as you. Stability first. Yet I myself am not suffering from any issue. I find my self surround by multiple galaxy nexus owners daily and I am showing them stuff w my oG. Vice versa, just throwing it out there. I have been lucky when I have been flashing phones, many many manyphones hahaha. They all take well to me. I hate a screwed up glitchy phone

Android 4.0/Sense 3.6

Last couple of days there have been more and more articles about sense 3.6 running over ICS on quite a few phones (Rezound/Tbolt). Just wondering if any of these Roms are able to be ported to our Inc's?

I dont think so. I remember when the sense 3.0 roms hit the scene, we weren't able to run then til we got a GB kernel from HTC. Once we got the first leaked GB kernel we were able to run sense 3.0 roms.
However I do not believe we will receive an ics kernel from HTC, so no dice there
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Sense 3.6 sounds cold lol
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Love the Senseless rom Div! 3 days with no charge!!! Cant wait for the update

i dont think so. i flashed this on my rezound. the rom zip is over 600mb. no way the inc can handle it.

It was worth a shot oh well

synisterwolf said:
i dont think so. i flashed this on my rezound. the rom zip is over 600mb. no way the inc can handle it.
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Gawd damn
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watt9493 said:
Gawd damn
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right? its huge. i wonder when they get an aosp build out, what size that will be. for the inc, sense 1.0 roms were like 150mb and a full aosp was 89mb.

synisterwolf said:
right? its huge. i wonder when they get an aosp build out, what size that will be. for the inc, sense 1.0 roms were like 150mb and a full aosp was 89mb.
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Cm9 builds are about 115 mb on the gnex. I imagine about the same on the rezound for aosp.
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id think the og inc can handle sense 3.6/4.0 and you wont need a 3.xx kernel from htc either
we have sense 4 on the inc2 and its on a lot of the other phones running on a .35 kernel just like aosp is
if no one else does anything in a week or so and i have time, ill see if i can boot it on my old inc...no guarantees though

tiny4579 said:
Cm9 builds are about 115 mb on the gnex. I imagine about the same on the rezound for aosp.
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I wish we had an aosp Rom.
Cheated on my sexy assistant with a HTC ReZound.

synisterwolf said:
I wish we had an aosp Rom.
Cheated on my sexy assistant with a HTC ReZound.
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That was one reason i didn't want the rezound. Uncertain future for development for cm and such.
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tiny4579 said:
That was one reason i didn't want the rezound. Uncertain future for development for cm and such.
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well if we can get your skills on making the kernel, meadows has an alpha build - RIL but im going to jump in and help with the build soon.

tiny4579 said:
That was one reason i didn't want the rezound. Uncertain future for development for cm and such.
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That and the lack of an Amoled screen were the two reasons I chose the nexus. I also liked the fact that it was a nexus. Sense 1.0 was so much liter than 3.5. My father got the rezound though. Its still a very nice phone.

synisterwolf said:
well if we can get your skills on making the kernel, meadows has an alpha build - RIL but im going to jump in and help with the build soon.
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Maybe...I'm somewhat interested in this. Is it HWA capable? Maybe try the Abduction stock kernel. If not HWA capable (hard to know I'm sure) maybe the latest incredikernel.
If it doesn't boot it's hard to know if it's the ROM or the kernel that needs fixing or both.

tiny4579 said:
Maybe...I'm somewhat interested in this. Is it HWA capable? Maybe try the Abduction stock kernel. If not HWA capable (hard to know I'm sure) maybe the latest incredikernel.
If it doesn't boot it's hard to know if it's the ROM or the kernel that needs fixing or both.
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Well according to his thread it is booting. So that is good so far. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471408&page=72

synisterwolf said:
well if we can get your skills on making the kernel, meadows has an alpha build - RIL but im going to jump in and help with the build soon.
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For some reason i though you were talking about ics sense on the inc. But its ics cm on rezound. My bad. I don't want to try to do a kernel on a device I don't have. Has Chad gotten involved in the rezound kernel?
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I think Chad has said before he wanted to wait till the source came out before he would try ICS. But he has made a GB kernel already.

Why no AOSP roms yet?

We have the kernel source and aosp source for ICS (not JB)(obviously) so why hasn't anyone made an aosp Rom? It seems even other devices get AOSP roms a lot faster. Is there a problem with porting AOSP to the S3 phones in general (US VERSIONS) or does no dev really care for AOSP and is happy with TouchWiz? I don't know, and I'm just curious. Just to be clear, I'm not asking any devs to get on it or work on it or rush it, just pure curiosity. Thanks. Hoping some devs could reply to clear some things up.
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Can you wait ? Sheesh
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I don't even have my phone yet... *it is shipping as we speak*

If you have been reading. The devs are having to unravel a disgusting amount of code because the touch wiz is integrated with everything. We are running a %0 true android experience. It's going to take time. With all due respect if you can't wait do it yourself. Good luck.
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Give it time, the phone's barely out

Exactly. As much as I don't want to wait any linger and take my g nex back from my wife I think I'll stick it out. This phone is pretty damn sweet
Give it some time. As stated before the phone is barely even released.
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MacTheRipperr said:
If you have been reading. The devs are having to unravel a disgusting amount of code because the touch wiz is integrated with everything. We are running a %0 true android experience. It's going to take time. With all due respect if you can't wait do it yourself. Good luck.
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Yeah I get that it's running touchwiz which is like you said basically a 0% true android experience but wouldn't you just be able to delete the touchwiz all together and flash a new Rom. I'm not exactly sure what the problems are that are stopping devs from just installing a Rom onto it after removing touchwiz. I can wait I was just asking out of curiosity lol.
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You can't do that without achieving AOSP. ICS AOSP is helpful, but everyone wants JB.
The JB AOSP source code isn't out and when it is, the closed-source RIL is the biggest obstacle to making it work.

Serious_Beans said:
We have the kernel source and aosp source(obviously) so why hasn't anyone made an aosp Rom? Are there no dedicated enough devs? Does no one care? I've been thinking to compile an aosp Rom but I wouldn't know where to go from there
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You can't have AOSP ROMS without the AndroidOpenSource for 4.1, which isn't out for 2 more weeks. And for 4.0, the devs still need time.

someone else mentioned that a lot of the devs might have held out for the 32gb models which were hard to come by opening week. the 16gb versions came out first. anyway, there are a lot of great devs on board, and not just historically samsung devs. htc devs like myn will be pumping out roms soon enough.
i won't lie though... some jellybean love would be beautiful.

mercado79 said:
someone else mentioned that a lot of the devs might have held out for the 32gb models which were hard to come by opening week. the 16gb versions came out first. anyway, there are a lot of great devs on board, and not just historically samsung devs. htc devs like myn will be pumping out roms soon enough.
i won't lie though... some jellybean love would be beautiful.
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Yeah, I hope by the time the SGS4 rolls around in a year that 32GB will be the new low-end, with 64GB the step up. I really hope we don't stagnate here -- or worse: go backwards -- just because of this cloud crap.

My guess would be that most of the devs have the international version. They have had AOSP roms for weeks. Not to mention cm9, aokp, and about to get miui4

My guess would be that the phone is just getting released in the US and maybe the devs are waiting for 4.1 source so we can have a Jelly Bean AOSP rom instead of spending so much time to create an ICS AOSP. That doesn't make much sense to me, why waste time on ICS when JB is coming out in couple of weeks.

Can't most efforts on ICS apply to JB, or do things like project butter really change up the porting?

I imagine Google Play on stock/root or CM9 would be a lower-hanging fruit.

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My guess would be that the phone is just getting released in the US and maybe the devs are waiting for 4.1 source so we can have a Jelly Bean AOSP rom instead of spending so much time to create an ICS AOSP. That doesn't make much sense to me, why waste time on ICS when JB is coming out in couple of weeks.
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Yeah that is probably it. But wouldn't starting now with ics help with jb?
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I thought jelly bean was flashable over ics
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Serious_Beans said:
Yeah I get that it's running touchwiz which is like you said basically a 0% true android experience but wouldn't you just be able to delete the touchwiz all together and flash a new Rom. I'm not exactly sure what the problems are that are stopping devs from just installing a Rom onto it after removing touchwiz. I can wait I was just asking out of curiosity lol.
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Try and just take it explorer on Windows and see how far you get. It's not as simple as just deleting touchwiz.
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There isn't AOSP because of posts like this. You probably delayed it a day or two.
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Zacisblack said:
There isn't AOSP because of posts like this. You probably delayed it a day or two.
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Now now, this isn't Half Life. But seriously, I don't mind waiting for AOSP because TouchWiz has a lot of cool software features and I can always flash an ICS theme.
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Jellybean source being release today.

http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...-jelly-bean-source-is-now-being-released-r955

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/09/android-4-1-jelly-bean-released-to-aosp-right-now/
Damn it you beat me to the punch lol
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CM10 soon!!!!!!
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hopefully we get CM9 support first

lets see how fast we see something for s3

MMontanez347 said:
hopefully we get CM9 support first
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Why would they make CM9 for this phone when JB source is released? Lol that makes absolutely no sense.
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Serious_Beans said:
Why would they make CM9 for this phone when JB source is released? Lol that makes absolutely no sense.
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I believe it was said that jb code is very similar to ics. Cm9 is very close for us. A stable cm9 to cm10 would probably be faster than cm10 built from scratch. Just a guess though, I'm not a dev.
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Restola said:
I believe it was said that jb code is very similar to ics. Cm9 is very close for us. A stable cm9 to cm10 would probably be faster than cm10 built from scratch. Just a guess though, I'm not a dev.
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Nah I mean working off of CM9 would make sense if they could just merge the changes but I doubt it would officially be released just for them to release CM10 after that.
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hopefully we get CM9 support first
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I really hope we get CM7 before that
/sarcasm
really? why would you want the outdated one?

The CM team is merging the update as we speak. I think we will probably just get CM10 and not CM9 first (could be wrong though)
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We will get CM10 before CM9. All development on CM9 is being ceased after version 1.0.0. Just be patient, the source was uploaded something like 2 or 3 hours ago.

I think we will have something by next week

razorseal said:
I think we will have something by next week
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I think we'll have something by tomorrow morning.. ;-)
Joking aside, this is cool to see.
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jsmcmahon89 said:
I think we'll have something by tomorrow morning.. ;-)
Joking aside, this is cool to see.
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Joke? don't underestimate the developers on THIS phone, of all phones ) I'm gonna definatelly keep an eye on these forums. if nothing else i expect someone starting a WIP thread, an AOSP built rom, most likely not fully functional ofcourse, but compiled enough to boot up, just to give us a taste while development begins in earnest
This is just what was needed to jump-start development for the SIII

I'm curious, with Verizon's S3 flashing abilities currently being limited to roms stripped of kernels, how will this affect a jellybean rom? Is the ics kernel the same as the jb kernel?

Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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mt3g said:
Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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Reason people are saying that we could see CM10 soon is because the CM team think the code should be able to merge right into what they have with CM9, and not break that many things. With CM7 to CM9, they had to basically do everything from the ground up again because ICS was such a huge update over GB. Now JB isn't that big of an upgrade over ICS, in a way it is, but in a way it isn't. Sorry if that sounds confusing.

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Reason people are saying that we could see CM10 soon is because the CM team think the code should be able to merge right into what they have with CM9, and not break that many things. With CM7 to CM9, they had to basically do everything from the ground up again because ICS was such a huge update over GB. Now JB isn't that big of an upgrade over ICS, in a way it is, but in a way it isn't. Sorry if that sounds confusing.
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That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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mt3g said:
Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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I am no dev, but heres how i understand it works;
we start with an announcement of an OS, this is done generally at Google I/O or a Nexus Event, in this case was Google I/O.
On the announcement day, devs receive the SDK; Software Development Kit.
This is released to allow the devs to begin making apps that match and run on the new OS. However, aspiring rom devs then begin to build a rom off the released SDK, generally called an sdk port.
These tend to be made simply to give us an idea of how the system would work and function, and generally might boot up and have a couple working things, but major things tend not to function because the SDK is not made for that.
Then comes the Source code, this is the real deal, it is full code of the system, code that can then be compiled to produce a fully working system, or nearly fully working. Only thing that remains missing is proprietary drivers and such, these tend to be the things specific to each phone, files that would make particular chips work, particular functions, the specific phone kernel, etc. but once you have the source code, you're over 80% done as far as having the resources needed to develop a full rom. at this stage, some devs can produce a fully working, stellar rom, but it will take quite a bit more work than devs who choose to wait for the final stage
Then comes the OTA. this is where all the device-specific stuff comes to the devices, and devs have the absolute and complete freedom to produce a fully working, better than stock, experience. This is where roms flood the dev forums.
So as far as not having AOSP yet, and now this is our chance at AOSP? No, thats not why we dont have AOSP. we dont have it cause no one built it yet; the Touchwiz UX is sooo integrated in the system that untangling and taking it all out is a long and drawn out process, and theyd need to deconstruct what we currently have, take out elements of touchwiz until its all clean, all the while making sure it doesnt break anything else.
but getting the jellybean source code propels devs because now this is a new OS, a new AOSP with its own new interesting properties. and because Jelly bean is a small update compared to ICS, now that we have source code, many of the device specific stuff wont be broken by implementing jellybean code into it, therefore building a Jellybean rom is a faster path to AOSP than untangling the current ICS for Galaxy S III
Does that make sense?
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That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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AOSP in this case is talking about the actual Android Open Source Project. so it is a bunch of code. so why are we excited? we've had ICS AOSP code for nearly a year now, what we dont have is AOSP roms. building an ICS AOSP rom is much harder than building a JB Rom, and we currently have icecream sandwich on the SIII even if its touchwized, and undoing touchwiz is quite a bit of work. but Jellybean...Oh Jellybean, now we got the source, we will start getting that baby soon and it'll boost dev on these devices. make sense?

mt3g said:
That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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Not sure if you were trying to come off rude or not, but people are excited because its the newest update, duh. Reason being we don't have 4.0 AOSP is because the phone hasn't been out that long for the US carriers.

4.2 AOSP out!

Woohoo! Can't wait for cm10 team to start merging in the new 4.2 goodness!
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/13/android-4-2-headed-to-aosp-right-now/

Woohoo....see what the devs come up with on this
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thats just great! cant wait to get the n10 and flash it with a good & nice aosp rom

Yep looking forward to this to. I have been running Siyah Kernel for a couple of weeks and it's great to be able to switch between the stable stock based rom and CM10

Yep same as on the Nexus 7 forums too, looking forward to having 4.2 AOSP on both my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7:laugh:

Want omega's team to get cracking
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Won't take long to CM10-4.2 get released. I guess 4.2 uses the same base and stuff, so won't be a problem. Still, I may stick with Samsung. I love CM10 but not CM10 for i9300. Colors doesn't look good, laggy and a lot of random bugs.

Looking forward to it. Unfortunately cm10 on i9300 is beyond the team's control . If Samsung took their thumbs outta their asses and start releasing the RIGHT source and docs for Xynos, we might actually get somewhere. Its a miracle we've come this far without it.
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I see a lot of people comment that Touchwiz ROMs run more smoothly than CM based builds. This is exactly the opposite of my experience. I find the Cyanogen team's work to be second to none, which is remarkable considering they're volunteering their time.

nnotis said:
I see a lot of people comment that Touchwiz ROMs run more smoothly than CM based builds. This is exactly the opposite of my experience. I find the Cyanogen team's work to be second to none, which is remarkable considering they're volunteering their time.
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Definitely agree with you!
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More power to the CM Team! I loved the ROM ever since.
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It's freaking me out a bit that my Verizon Galaxy Nexus will get a 4.2 custom ROM before my Nexus 4. WTF?

With the CM vs TW ROM debate, is there one Vanilla ROM that you think proves that theory that they run smoother and faster because I'd love to test it if there is one. I've always also felt that TW runs smoother? Maybe I'm wrong. Is LiquidSmooth a good example?

foxhound tw Rom is ridiculously smooth
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Let's not change this thread to a TW vs CM, shall we?

Wohoooo! cant wait to get this one on my phone!

RoadXY said:
Let's not change this thread to a TW vs CM, shall we?
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why fight when siyah gives the best of both worlds
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RoadXY said:
Let's not change this thread to a TW vs CM, shall we?
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I think that comment probably did that more than anyone else's. I think it's a perfectly valid part of the discussion. I'm not suggesting we sit here and go back and forth on ROM names. But I'll ask my question in a different way. What is it about the AOSP release that's out there now that isn't working well that will be improved by this 4.2 release? Ultimately, this isn't about one ROM base vs another it's about whether AOSP can be made to work bug-free with the I9300 hardware, isn't it?

tinpanalley said:
I think that comment probably did that more than anyone else's. I think it's a perfectly valid part of the discussion. I'm not suggesting we sit here and go back and forth on ROM names. But I'll ask my question in a different way. What is it about the AOSP release that's out there now that isn't working well that will be improved by this 4.2 release? Ultimately, this isn't about one ROM base vs another it's about whether AOSP can be made to work bug-free with the I9300 hardware, isn't it?
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I believe it's also to do with what new FEATURES have been added to the new AOSP release and less to do with how much stability it will add (since that is dependent more on Samsung releasing the source than what AOSP has to offer in terms of stability).
Some of us would like to make use of the new features of 4.2 and not have to wait for an official Samsung update.
Having said all this, at the end of the day, that's my point of view and I don't expect everyone to agree.

dilwaala said:
Woohoo! Can't wait for cm10 team to start merging in the new 4.2 goodness!
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/13/android-4-2-headed-to-aosp-right-now/
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Woot, the race is on!