so I really want to get the Nexus 4, only thing is I heard that straight talk doesn't let you stream audio or video on their unlimited plan. Is this true? What other options are there?
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ahhlix said:
so I really want to get the Nexus 4, only thing is I heard that straight talk doesn't let you stream audio or video on their unlimited plan. Is this true? What other options are there?
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Look at T Mobile and AT&T. I'm on AT&T, I don't use cellular data but use WIFI hotspots instead; however, AT&T has added a lot of data options. I'm not sure that I'd be willing to spend a lot of money for streaming music or video via cellular since cellular data is priced so high, but to each their own. Here's a link to a comparison of 5 AT&T MVNOs that was updated this summer. http: //www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011/09/five-at-mvnos-compared.html T-Mobile has a new MVNO named Solavei that you might want to check out, too.
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Look at T Mobile and AT&T. I'm on AT&T, I don't use cellular data but use WIFI hotspots instead; however, AT&T has added a lot of data options. I'm not sure that I'd be willing to spend a lot of money for streaming music or video via cellular since cellular data is priced so high, but to each their own. Here's a link to a comparison of 5 AT&T MVNOs that was updated this summer. http: //www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011/09/five-at-mvnos-compared.html T-Mobile has a new MVNO named Solavei that you might want to check out, too.
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Thanks man, this helps a lot
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ahhlix said:
so I really want to get the Nexus 4, only thing is I heard that straight talk doesn't let you stream audio or video on their unlimited plan. Is this true? What other options are there?
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I have a SIM from StraightTalk (it's the AT&T one) and I have had no problem streaming audio (with Pandora or Google Music) or Video from Netflix (haven't tried anything else other than Youtube and that works too). I pay under $45 a month for unlimited everything. I can even tether my laptop no problem (was hitting speeds of around 10Mbs down). This is on my HTC One X, but it shouldn't make a difference no matter what the device.
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I have a SIM from StraightTalk (it's the AT&T one) and I have had no problem streaming audio (with Pandora or Google Music) or Video from Netflix (haven't tried anything else other than Youtube and that works too). I pay under $45 a month for unlimited everything. I can even tether my laptop no problem (was hitting speeds of around 10Mbs down). This is on my HTC One X, but it shouldn't make a difference no matter what the device.
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Thanks man, that's good to know
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I've used Straight Talk. Great speeds and all... But they shut down my account because of streaming video. Luckily I was able to change to Monthly4G fast enough to reclaim my old number!
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I've used Straight Talk. Great speeds and all... But they shut down my account because of streaming video. Luckily I was able to change to Monthly4G fast enough to reclaim my old number!
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well, I was looking into the $50 plan that T-Mobile offers but they say that the first 100mb are 4g speeds and that the rest are 3g I guess. Does anyone have this plan ? if so, what are those speeds like ?
There's a $30 plan with 5gb of 4g before they throttle, unlimited text, and 100 minutes of talk time.
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There's a $30 plan with 5gb of 4g before they throttle, unlimited text, and 100 minutes of talk time.
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Though that sounds like a good deal, I can't deal with 100 minutes. I could use Groove IP but that is too much of a hassle, wouldn't you agree?
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Though that sounds like a good deal, I can't deal with 100 minutes. I could use Groove IP but that is too much of a hassle, wouldn't you agree?
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I'm looking at this plan too. If you could get away with Groove IP and deal with that this plan is pretty amazing.
I agree 100 minutes is pushing it.
I haven't had problems streaming Music on Straight Talk for the past two months here in Washington State.
Have you considered Solavei or Simple Talk? Both run on T-Mo's network but have better definitions of Data Usage.
I'd suggest porting or obtaining a Google Voice number and handing that out and using the call forwarding function. So if you have to jump to a different carrier, you're not bound to their number or deal with porting your number multiple times.
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I'm looking at this plan too. If you could get away with Groove IP and deal with that this plan is pretty amazing.
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Well in terms of call conditional forwarding, I read that straight talk doesn't support it. I think that ideally I'd go with the "monthly 4g" $50 plan T-Mobile offers. I wish I knew how fast the 3g service is after the 100mb
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I agree 100 minutes is pushing it.
I haven't had problems streaming Music on Straight Talk for the past two months here in Washington State.
Have you considered Solavei or Simple Talk? Both run on T-Mo's network but have better definitions of Data Usage.
I'd suggest porting or obtaining a Google Voice number and handing that out and using the call forwarding function. So if you have to jump to a different carrier, you're not bound to their number or deal with porting your number multiple times.
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I just bought a Solavei SIM for the following reasons:
- If you want to go with an MVNO in the US, you'll want to go with one that's using T-Mobile's frequencies for the DC-HSPA+ (42Mbps), which Solavei does
- $49/mo unlimited calling/texts/data
- Interesting referral program from which you can actually make money
If you live in an area with good T-Mobile coverage, I'd highly recommend this route.
This is the video I saw here on XDA that helped me decide.
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I just bought a Solavei SIM for the following reasons:
- If you want to go with an MVNO in the US, you'll want to go with one that's using T-Mobile's frequencies for the DC-HSPA+ (42Mbps), which Solavei does
- $49/mo unlimited calling/texts/data
- Interesting referral program from which you can actually make money
If you live in an area with good T-Mobile coverage, I'd highly recommend this route.
This is the video I saw here on XDA that helped me decide.
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Very interested in this but... Is there a fine print?
What CAN'T YOU do on this network?
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What CAN'T YOU do on this network?
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Not sure... My (admittedly hasty) research hasn't found anything out of the ordinary, except for the 4gb cap on HSPA+ speeds..
I think a lot of people are turned off by the idea of the referral program.. I found a lot of people claiming it was a scam, but I haven't found anything negative about their actual service. I suppose there's always the risk of an MVNO going under unexpectedly?
I'm not too sure, but I'll be sure to share my findings with the community once I get started on the service.
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Though that sounds like a good deal, I can't deal with 100 minutes. I could use Groove IP but that is too much of a hassle, wouldn't you agree?
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According to a post on Facebook from Groove IP, its not working on 4.2 Jellybean. They are working on a fix for it. Not sure if Talkatone is working on 4.2.
If 100 minutes isn't enough for you, I would recommend Straight Talk, as I believe it offers the choice of an At&t or T-mobile SIM and it's $45 for unlimited everything (with an unofficial data cap) as a few posters already mentioned.
Once my existing contract is over, I'm actually going to port my At&t number to Google Voice so that I can switch between prepaid SIMs at will without having to tell everyone my new number each time I do so. As I see it, the point of prepaid is to be able to leave when needed, and Google Voice offers that convenience (especially with the great Android app).
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Well in terms of call conditional forwarding, I read that straight talk doesn't support it. I think that ideally I'd go with the "monthly 4g" $50 plan T-Mobile offers. I wish I knew how fast the 3g service is after the 100mb
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The "Call Forwarding" Is not done through Straight Talk. You would add the phone number StraightTalk provides you to the Phone Forwarding List Of GoogleVoice account. Then give your friends/family/Ex-Wifes the Google Voice number, and when they call, it will ring your phone... So that if you do get a Carrier (ie StraightTalk) and they cancel your service, or you choose to find a different Carrier then you won't have to give out another number, people can continue to use the GoogleVoice number.
And there is nothing StraightTalk can do about that, since they really have no way of know 'cause the call is just routed through Google servers to your phone.
In response to your Original Post... I've used StraightTalk for nearly 1 yr and have never had an issue with Streaming any type of content...
I actually have to StraightTalk Sim card in a GSM Dongle that I use for my laptop... Still getting good speeds, have yet to be "Throttled", and service has not been disconnected due to streaming/data usage.
This thread has a wealth of knowledge in it...use it.
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I currently have Sprint Everything Data which is now $80/mo with the $10 premium data fee. AT&T's plans are priced as $40 for voice with 450 minutes w/rollover, $20 for unlimited texting, and $25 for 2 GB data. If you got JUST the voice and data, that would be $65/mo saving $15/mo over Sprint, and if you port your number to Google Voice first, you can text from that for free and everyone will see the same number you've always used. Other than losing MMS, are there any downsides to this? Is Google Voice reliable enough to trust all your calls and texts to? Considering the very solid speeds on AT&T's 3G and HSPA+ network vs. Sprint's 3G and sparse WiMAX this sounds tempting.
yes, and a lot of people do it. in fact, you can even drop a lot of your minutes and make all your calls through google voice, as long as you have data. it'll even prompt you when you install it if you want to use google voice for all calls, never, on demand, ect. set to all and you'll never touch your carrier minutes.
also, my finger slipped when hitting quick reply, so i thanked your post accidentally. enjoy it
Yep. I do this with Verizon on my thunderbolt. You can just tell people to send the mms to your email. Also I believe you can add your Google voice number to you top 10 or whatever that is called to avoid getting charged when using the callback feature. I added the number to the family plan so the family doesn't complain about using minute to call me.
You can use the app called Groove IP to call directly from your Google voice account or use I voip provider like sipgate to reroute your calls and save some coin. Ibidem sipgate because incoming calls are free (which means using the callback feature with sipgate doesn't use you prepaid minutes) and I have had a solid experience so far with them. Lifehacker has a couple great articles with tips and tricks.
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yes, and a lot of people do it. in fact, you can even drop a lot of your minutes and make all your calls through google voice, as long as you have data. it'll even prompt you when you install it if you want to use google voice for all calls, never, on demand, ect. set to all and you'll never touch your carrier minutes.
also, my finger slipped when hitting quick reply, so i thanked your post accidentally. enjoy it
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Unfortunately that isn't true. Google Voice gives you the option of handling all calls, but that just means outgoing calls will appear to others as coming from your GV number - it still uses your carrier minutes to actually call GV first. SMS, however, really is free and just goes over the data network.
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Yep. I do this with Verizon on my thunderbolt. You can just tell people to send the mms to your email. Also I believe you can add your Google voice number to you top 10 or whatever that is called to avoid getting charged when using the callback feature. I added the number to the family plan so the family doesn't complain about using minute to call me.
You can use the app called Groove IP to call directly from your Google voice account or use I voip provider like sipgate to reroute your calls and save some coin. Ibidem sipgate because incoming calls are free (which means using the callback feature with sipgate doesn't use you prepaid minutes) and I have had a solid experience so far with them. Lifehacker has a couple great articles with tips and tricks.
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Thanks, so how reliable has GV been for handling your texts? It it just as fast (as in, time from send to receive) as regular SMS over the voice network? Do texts ever not get through?
It's great to have apps like Groove IP to make free calls in case you are getting low on minutes, unfortunately it's not a replacement for having the actual $40/mo voice plan. This is because to get a phone with contract pricing you must at least get that voice plan. If you go data only, you won't have the $25 2 GB plan available to you and will have to buy a phone outright and that eliminates the monthly savings. But knowing you have Groove IP, minutes is not really a worry (especially with rollover).
Is 2gb data enough?
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Is 2gb data enough?
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I'd obviously prefer more but I'd probably rather have 2 GB of fast data than unlimited Sprint 3G and WiMAX that I never use. That alone wouldn't necessarily be enough to make me switch as I'm not obsessed with my data speeds, but for a lower monthly price, it's appealing.
Any additional thoughts on if this would work well? My plan is to port my number to Google Voice so I can text through it for free from the same number I've always used. Then sign up for AT&T and get a new number and forward GV calls to that. Then just get voice + data and have a $65/mo bill.
One more question about this. For those that use GV for calls, how is the latency? I tried doing a call with it with my current GV number and I felt there was noticeably more latency than a standard cell to cell call. That could be a deal breaker.
Seriously I think you can save money with Sprint if you use one of their many discounts. If you work for a company, or belong to some organization or even credit union, you can get anywhere from a 5-25% discount.
Also, the Sprint data speeds have been getting faster with the Sprint Vision initiative. In my area, they have improved data speeds on 3G, where I once got 500Kbps, I now get over 2Mbps. On 4G WiMAX, I get around 8Mbps.
Last month I used close to 4GB of data, mostly streaming Play Music and YouTube. Carriers are sneakily finding ways for you to use more data just so you can pay more when you go over your cap, such as HD streaming and removing SD cards so you have to stream data from the cloud, except for Sprint since data is unlimited. Seriously is 2GB a lot? That's easily 1 HD movie streamed to your phone.
I have both an Epic 4G on Sprint and an International Galaxy Note on Straight Talk (AT&T MVNO with Phony Unlimited Data) and I still use my Sprint phone more when it comes to streaming content when not on WIFI for the fact that Sprint is truly unlimited.
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Seriously I think you can save money with Sprint if you use one of their many discounts. If you work for a company, or belong to some organization or even credit union, you can get anywhere from a 5-25% discount.
Also, the Sprint data speeds have been getting faster with the Sprint Vision initiative. In my area, they have improved data speeds on 3G, where I once got 500Kbps, I now get over 2Mbps. On 4G WiMAX, I get around 8Mbps.
Last month I used close to 4GB of data, mostly streaming Play Music and YouTube. Carriers are sneakily finding ways for you to use more data just so you can pay more when you go over your cap, such as HD streaming and removing SD cards so you have to stream data from the cloud, except for Sprint since data is unlimited. Seriously is 2GB a lot? That's easily 1 HD movie streamed to your phone.
I have both an Epic 4G on Sprint and an International Galaxy Note on Straight Talk (AT&T MVNO with Phony Unlimited Data) and I still use my Sprint phone more when it comes to streaming content when not on WIFI for the fact that Sprint is truly unlimited.
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Thanks, yes I actually have a Sprint discount right now, but I can get one on other carriers as well. That's nice that you are able to get such great speeds on Sprint's 3G. Unfortunately in my area, 200-500 Kbps is typical. Sometimes it's bad enough that I simply can't use my phone to look something up because the page, or Maps results, just never finishes loading. I am in a current WiMAX area so I'm sure LTE will be here eventually, but if it doesn't come until mid to late 2013 I'm not sure I want to wait. But I am still considering it. An LTE rollout roadmap would definitely help.
The best discount with Sprint is to use the info on the following page
http://mcguireslaw.com/2008/07/16/psst-have-you-heard-about-everything-plus/
I enjoy Sprint as well. When I get my own account I will get a 20% discount because I work for Best Buy. XD Though Sprint is not truly unlimted. If you stream over 35GB of data a month for 3 months straight, you will get your account terminated.
2gb its not enough its need more than 2gb
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The best discount with Sprint is to use the info on the following page
http://mcguireslaw.com/2008/07/16/psst-have-you-heard-about-everything-plus/
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you rock for this. adding this to my sig, it almost compensates for sprints s*itty 3g by me.
I was once a tech/sales/fraud/CustSvc support for ST/NET10/TF
then im now on AT&T tech
anyways, if you want to have some clarifications, questions about the said brands, you can ask me, i cannot guarantee to answer everything but go ahead
I do not represent nor am I anymore connected with Tracfone Wireless Inc on xda nor do my posts and opinions reflect those of the company, management, and or its subsidiaries
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The most obvious one, what is the true data limit to the "unlimited" data. How do they determine if you're using too much data, or how do they determine if you're streaming or tethering?
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it actually depends upon the network of the area,
we have tools to check how much bandwidth is allocated in the area
if we detect serious network impact then we know what phone number caused such,
we dont own a network we "rent" from other large telecom companies
but mostly its 2GB - 3GB before it was 5GB but due to complaints recieved by TMO/AT&T/Sprint/Verizon about our subscribers affecting the performance of their network we reduced it to 2GB - 3GB,
some though get away with having as much as 8-10GB per month, im not sure how that happens
and analyze thier marketing strategy its unlimited "web browsing" they never said downloading, tethering, streaming, internet just "web browsing"
one funny experience was when a customer said, "whats the use of having one of your android phones if im prohibited to download stuff from internet with my 'unlimited' plan"
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if we detect serious network impact then we know what phone number caused such
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Knowing this, any idea how much tethering one can get away with before ST takes action?
about 2GB - 3GB actually,
depends also on the bandwidth you are allocating
Does Straight Talk using AT&T's network have the same speed as AT&T? Or does it cap it at 500kbps like AT&T GoPhone does?
ST SIMs run in ATT & TMO towers based on what i know we have HSPA+ for our contracts, you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps
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ST SIMs run in ATT & TMO towers based on what i know we have HSPA+ for our contracts, you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps
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Hm. Well in my area AT&T gets me around 3.5-4Mbps downstream and 1-2Mbps upstream. T-Mobile was much faster most of the time but unfortunately they started compressing all images through mobile data so...
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Does Straight Talk using AT&T's network have the same speed as AT&T? Or does it cap it at 500kbps like AT&T GoPhone does?
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Hi, I just signed up because this is the same question I 've been searching for.
I'm now looking for a prepaid to save money since I'm just a student so cannot afford to try both straight talk and gophone. which one between these two has the fastest download speed? I have a 4G capable phone and just signed up for att's gophone service today with 1GB data, but the speed I'm getting is 1.7 to 2mb/s at best. would straight talk be faster than this speed?
I just heard the gophone offers throttle 3G, so it's around 2 or 2.5G, whereas straight talk does not throttle, so they are around 3.5G, is that true?
the only reason why I chose to try gophone because straight talk's 45 dollar plan doesn't allow international sms. but I can think of an alternative if straight talk is faster.
Thanks in advance!
ST now actually has a unlimited international voice/sms + local unlimited web browsing for $60, and ST runs on AT&T HSPA+ network so you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps (at least thats what we know but some can get 4g speeds)
iPhone 4S on Straight Talk
I am very curious about using an Iphone 4S on Straight Talk. Hubby's contract with AT&T is up next month and I really want to get all the iTards off my plan So, what am I going to have to do to his phone to get as many (hopefully all) of the features he currently uses to function?
#1 requirement is tethering. He tethers (& yes, I pay AT&T their F***ing extortion fee) so he can telecommute--no downloading--just connecting to his work pc.
#2 requirement is the "Find my Friends" feature so he can keep track of all his iTard buddies & kids. Why anyone would want this, ahem, feature is beyond me.
#3 is there going to be any problem with iTunes or the Ap Store? He and the iTard kids will throw the biggest hissy fit ever seen if they can't get to the latest American Idol downloads & Tap Tap Revenge.
Thank you!
How can I keep my number when switching from AT&T to Straight Talk using my own phone? The only number transfer option they offer requires I purchase a Straight Talk branded device.
Thanks for answering my earlier question.
Since the amount of data you can use seems to vary from location to location, is there any way to check exactly how much one can use - *before* getting warned?
BKrenning said:
I am very curious about using an Iphone 4S on Straight Talk. Hubby's contract with AT&T is up next month and I really want to get all the iTards off my plan So, what am I going to have to do to his phone to get as many (hopefully all) of the features he currently uses to function?
#1 requirement is tethering. He tethers (& yes, I pay AT&T their F***ing extortion fee) so he can telecommute--no downloading--just connecting to his work pc.
#2 requirement is the "Find my Friends" feature so he can keep track of all his iTard buddies & kids. Why anyone would want this, ahem, feature is beyond me.
#3 is there going to be any problem with iTunes or the Ap Store? He and the iTard kids will throw the biggest hissy fit ever seen if they can't get to the latest American Idol downloads & Tap Tap Revenge.
Thank you!
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1.) if you are on our BYOP plan, you can tether all the hell you want, as long as we don't detect major bandwidth allocation affecting the carrier
2.) any feature that uses the internet inside your phone is compatible, you don't need to unlock your phone since you will have a AT&T sim under StraightTalk
3.) nope not at all,
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How can I keep my number when switching from AT&T to Straight Talk using my own phone? The only number transfer option they offer requires I purchase a Straight Talk branded device.
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LOL, who told you that?, you can keep a AT&T number and still use the same device, we just give you a SIM (we need to program the SIM to your number and re-register it in the AT&T network), call ST and tell them to activate the SIM, the process takes 24hrs-2 business days, or maybe they have a new policy about phone number change, it was 2 months since i worked there, but that was the process before i left
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Thanks for answering my earlier question.
Since the amount of data you can use seems to vary from location to location, is there any way to check exactly how much one can use - *before* getting warned?
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there was a code entry before, darn i forgot the code, it was used by us to check data/voice/SMS usage using the subscribers phone incase our tools go down. we use manual check to inform about the data changes
Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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I just got my sim card yesterday. I phoned straight talk to activate it. They can port a number over when you call them or on there website. I however did not port my number over yet because I want to test there service before canceling my att
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I use on average around 1-1.5GB per month with AT&T. Occasionally I come close to my 3GB cap. I've never gone over it. Would this be a problem for ST? I know they say "unlimited" but I am pretty sure it's not actually "unlimited" since nothing really is anymore.
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Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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yeah, they don't disclose that unless customer requests, because ST pays AT&T or other carriers to port the number into our database
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I use on average around 1-1.5GB per month with AT&T. Occasionally I come close to my 3GB cap. I've never gone over it. Would this be a problem for ST? I know they say "unlimited" but I am pretty sure it's not actually "unlimited" since nothing really is anymore.
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in thier marketing its not unlimited internet its unlimited web browsing
its hard for us to detect bandwidth usage, but we can easily detect bandwidth allocation,
stupid terms and conditions are as follows
Straight Talk Unlimited talk, text and data plan Features cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for the use of Wireless Synch.
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the system of ST (provided by tracfone wireless) rely on AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, TMO systems, we sync data together with thier systems
and its f****** slow to sync with thier databases using our system
I know this is not about the pre paid, but I have a unlimited data non-smart phone plan and I would like to know if AT&T just does not care that I use 5+GB a month on it or if I am just lucky?
The best part is, my speeds are the same as the store phone's with the right plan's. I even have LTE were I live and when I went to a store to run some speed test I got 6.5 down and 1.5 up on H+ vs the store S2 geting about the same thing and the one x geting 8 down and 7.5up on LTE.
Thanks
well if your phone is not a smartphone under a AT&T plan we do give unlimited data with no caps, just for ordinary and classic phones,
I've been running phones on medianet unlimited for over 7 years now. In the past I saw threads where the original Nexus and Nexus S were detected by AT&T and were forced to use smartphone plans. Before purchasing this phone I wanted to check if this version of the Nexus was also detected as a smartphone. I've been using an international galaxy Note for a year on the $10 medianet plan and was hoping the Nexus 4 could also work on medianet.
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No, sorry
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There are some that are using medianet with their smartphones.. You need to change the apn settings to whatever they are for medianet.. If I run by the forums with the information I will post it here for you.
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There are some that are using medianet with their smartphones.. You need to change the apn settings to whatever they are for medianet.. If I run by the forums with the information I will post it here for you.
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I think the question is not in th APN used, but if AT&T recognizes IMEI number as smartphone - if it does, it will force data plan on you.
I've been usin Nokia phones for several years across the family and haven't paid more than $10/month for unlimited internet...
Wonder if the same trick will work with Nexus 4...
Anyone n the know - could you please post?
when I get my N4, I plan on switching to medianet $15/month unlimited data. Hopefully they wont recognize the IMEI
Medianet plan does not work with nexus 4..just came from att store..and rep put medianet plan for me..but when i got home..i recived text from att that i have smartphone.
Been running MediaNet all day on my N4, got a smartphone prompt on my GNex a few times...a quick call into customer service fixes it right away.
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Been running MediaNet all day on my N4, got a smartphone prompt on my GNex a few times...a quick call into customer service fixes it right away.
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That's great! I was wondering if you could report here occasionally for a few weeks to keep us updated on whether you still have medianet or if you got switched. Would be much appreciated!
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That's great! I was wondering if you could report here occasionally for a few weeks to keep us updated on whether you still have medianet or if you got switched. Would be much appreciated!
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Will do, I am sure that even if they change it I will be able to get customer service to change it again. Never had a problem with them questioning me.
i call att and got medianet back...does anyone if it runs on HSPA+? any APN setting for it?
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i call att and got medianet back...does anyone if it runs on HSPA+? any APN setting for it?
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I'm getting it using wap.cingular
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I'm getting it using wap.cingular
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you mean default apn? well that work fine for me too but i am not sure if its HSPA+ or not..
i watch transformer with out any problem.
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you mean default apn? well that work fine for me too but i am not sure if its HSPA+ or not..
i watch transformer with out any problem.
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It is, you can find it by going to settings>about phone>status and look under mobile network type.
If your connection is idle it will say HSPA:10 but fire up Pandora or any music service and check, it will say HSPA:15
Just ordered the gn4 for the gf, hopefully the dumb phone data plan will still work for it
Yeah definitely hoping this will not get flagged and continue working. The phone has amazing specs and is dirt cheap. Definitely much cheaper than the HTC One X and has pretty much the same specs but for half the price.
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Will do, I am sure that even if they change it I will be able to get customer service to change it again. Never had a problem with them questioning me.
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Thanks for the info about calling customer service! What do you usually tell them? I just got flagged on my gnex and will getting my nexus 4 soon. Should I say something along the lines of "I don't have a smart phone."
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Yeah definitely hoping this will not get flagged and continue working. The phone has amazing specs and is dirt cheap. Definitely much cheaper than the HTC One X and has pretty much the same specs but for half the price.
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AT&T doesn't seem to know this phone's a smartphone. When I switched my SIM from my Nexus One to the Nexus 4, my 2GB DataPro plan was removed and changed to whatever their dumbphone unlimtied plan was.
It was a pain in ass to get them to switch it back to a 2GB DataPro w/ LTE plan. Without the LTE plan, you don't have access to the HSPA+ APN, so you'll be limited to 1mbit downstream max. People have been getting ~3-5mbit (or higher I think) on the HSPA+ APN.
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Without the LTE plan, you don't have access to the HSPA+ APN, so you'll be limited to 1mbit downstream max. People have been getting ~3-5mbit (or higher I think) on the HSPA+ APN.
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Where'd you hear that the MediaNET cap is 1Mbps? AFAIK, it's 7Mbps. That's what the GSIII forums say. I can't even run Speedtest.net (says I'm getting 0.8KB/s...) so I can't verify, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting over 1Mbps. In fact, the Galaxy S came from still gets 400KB/s (~3.2Mbps) so I'm pretty sure that MediaNET goes above 1Mbps.
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Where'd you hear that the MediaNET cap is 1Mbps? AFAIK, it's 7Mbps. That's what the GSIII forums say. I can't even run Speedtest.net (says I'm getting 0.8KB/s...) so I can't verify, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting over 1Mbps. In fact, the Galaxy S came from still gets 400KB/s (~3.2Mbps) so I'm pretty sure that MediaNET goes above 1Mbps.
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I didn't hear that MEdiaNet was throttled, but I did experience something similar to your situation. While on "wap.cingular", Speedtest.net would act strange(9kbps downstream, ~1mbit up). I went to the store and got a new MicroSIM I couldn't get anything faster than 1Mbit. I called in, told them the Nexus 4 was an LTE phone so I could get provisioned for the HSPA+ APN's. They told me to power cycle (I just switched APN's from "wap.cingular" to "pta"), and I immediately saw 3Mbit.
So given this, I can only deduce that whatever plan I was provisioned for when I was taken off my 2GB DataPro was capped at 1Mbit. Given your findings, I'm concluding that anyone that had 3G service(MEdiaNet) before they rolled out HSPA+/LTEhad an unthrottled 3G service and anyone that gets it today gets throttled("Featurephone Data").
Also, the fact your Speedtest.net app is acting funny is usually a sign you're on the gimped plan that I got auto-switched to("Featurephone Data").
I can only guess and share my experiences -- since it seems the AT&T monster and their inner workings are far more complex then I gave them credit for. The same wap.cingular APN I was on, doesn't seem to be the same one those GS III guys are on.
Tbh, I don't really care for this thread. I can see that I'm getting HSPA+:15 when I use cellular data, and my transfer speeds are as good as they were with my old phone. I'm only paying $10 for almost 3G (US 3G is the worst 3G...), and ~400KB/s is fast enough for my usage. I can even streaming HD Netflix; I don't, but it's a good benchmark.
Also, the MediaNET plans are not monitored for consumption at all, so I have a true unlimited plan. When I first moved into a new apartment last October, Comcast was being stupid and couldn't get me internet for 3 weeks. I tethered for myself, my roommate, and all of our many daily guests. >10GB down during that time, at least 2GB up, and not a word from AT&T. Until AT&T gets a Nexus 4 variant, I'm not worried about my IMEI being recognized as a smartphone and automatically jacked up to an overpriced 2GB plan with faster speeds but marginal real-world benefit.
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I can only guess and share my experiences -- since it seems the AT&T monster and their inner workings are far more complex then I gave them credit for. The same wap.cingular APN I was on, doesn't seem to be the same one those GS III guys are on.
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There's something we can wholeheartedly agree on. AT&T, y u so evil?
So I'm currently on the T-Mobile $30 plan, which is great, but I'm left wanting for more minutes. So I use nearly all my data allowance each month, so being on a plan that doesn't have unlimited data with caps lower than 5 GB isn't acceptable. I'd also like to keep my H+ speeds. My budget is $45. My knee-jerk reaction is to go with GoSmart, since they meet all the criteria, and they aren't a subsidiary of tracfone. I'm a tad worried at their definition of High Speed Web, which is 3G. I know that H+ is technically 3g, but many companies have taken to calling it 4g.
My 2nd choice would be to go with Net10 or Straighttalk, but I've heard that data caps are unpredictable, and I'd rather not have to deal with that.
I'm not sure what else is out there...I'd like to go with AT&T due to their superior coverage, but I can accept that they may not have plans that appeal to me.
Sounds like you're out of luck. You can't get much out of prepaid services. Only T-mobile's $70 unlimited prepaid plan offers all you can eat minutes, text and data. But that's way out of your budget.
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Use voip for the extra minutes. In you price range you won't be able to find what you are looking for. For what it's worth, net10 is a subsidiary of tracfone and their service reflects that, they sucked big time for me.
I don't think Straight Talk or Net10 throttle as much if you have their T-Mobile SIM. It's AT&T that's screwing over the MVNO's, not the MVNO itself. In fact, I think on Net10's Terms Of Service it even states that if you have an AT&T SIM you'll be capped at 1.5GB of data and it doesn't apply if you have the "pink" net10 T-Mobile SIM.
Not first hand experience but it seems to be the gist from everything I've read... StraightTalk on TMO is a lot more relaxed than on ATT.
GoSmart's data will be slower than you're looking for. If you read closely you'll find the "3G" speedcap (can't remember off the top of my head but there is one. 3mbps?).
Do consider VoIP. If you're looking for something straight forward that works pretty well, download the Vonage app. Since an app update recently, you're now able to dial from the native dialer and choose Vonage (or set it to always). Works over wifi and cell data. If you're fine making your longer phone calls outbound calls, you'll do alright.
I was in a similar place. I just got my Nexus 4 and am testing out the TMo 30 plan. A good alternative is Solavei. If I remember correctly, they are $45 a month. You get unlimited call/text/data. 4G data is capped at 4GB - best I've found from an MVNO that offers decent minutes. I also read they allow TMo LTE. Again, not first hand experience. Just what I found while digging. If I find VOIP imperfect (which it was on the 35 Virgin plan before), I'll probably switch to Solavei.
Bonus: Taxes are NOT included. A lot of users reported approx $50 bills total.
Bonus 2: GoSmart does not offer H+. This has been reported by several users. Kept me away from their plan.
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Not first hand experience but it seems to be the gist from everything I've read... StraightTalk on TMO is a lot more relaxed than on ATT.
GoSmart's data will be slower than you're looking for. If you read closely you'll find the "3G" speedcap (can't remember off the top of my head but there is one. 3mbps?).
Do consider VoIP. If you're looking for something straight forward that works pretty well, download the Vonage app. Since an app update recently, you're now able to dial from the native dialer and choose Vonage (or set it to always). Works over wifi and cell data. If you're fine making your longer phone calls outbound calls, you'll do alright.
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I have tried that, but I had a lot of people complain about an echo. Is that fixed?
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I have tried that, but I had a lot of people complain about an echo. Is that fixed?
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With Vonage? Others always complain about echo when I use sipdroid/pbxes/gv, but over Vonage, everyone stops the conversation at some point to say that I sound way better than I usually do.
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With Vonage? Others always complain about echo when I use sipdroid/pbxes/gv, but over Vonage, everyone stops the conversation at some point to say that I sound way better than I usually do.
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I'm quite pleased with Spare Phone vs Groove IP.
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I was in a similar place. I just got my Nexus 4 and am testing out the TMo 30 plan. A good alternative is Solavei. If I remember correctly, they are $45 a month. You get unlimited call/text/data. 4G data is capped at 4GB - best I've found from an MVNO that offers decent minutes. I also read they allow TMo LTE. Again, not first hand experience. Just what I found while digging. If I find VOIP imperfect (which it was on the 35 Virgin plan before), I'll probably switch to Solavei.
Bonus: Taxes are NOT included. A lot of users reported approx $50 bills total.
Bonus 2: GoSmart does not offer H+. This has been reported by several users. Kept me away from their plan.
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Yeah, I think Solavei would be his only choice. I have Simple Mobile now, but they screwed me on the data. They throttled me a little after I passed the 2 gig mark, so I wouldn't recommend them. I'm tired of dealing with these MNVOs and all their bull, so I'm switching to the $70 unlimited plan from T-Mobile.
Sounds like a stupid question, but I have been on Net10 and it is terrible... MMS receive doesn't work, data is spotty (excellent connection to HSPA+, just loses data flow) and their customer service is total crap, so I am looking for a different prepaid carrier but it must be on AT&T's network as T-Mobile has no service here (well, voice and 2G roaming, but they do not market here), so what are my options?
Currently I am looking at GoPhone and AIO Wireless, but what other options are there out there that will allow for a minimum of 1.5-2GB of data, 500 minutes/month, and and at least 1000 SMS/MMS messages per month that just works reliably for ALL services? BTW, this is Bismarck, North Dakota, so it pretty much has to be a nation-wide provider.
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Sounds like a stupid question, but I have been on Net10 and it is terrible... MMS receive doesn't work, data is spotty (excellent connection to HSPA+, just loses data flow) and their customer service is total crap, so I am looking for a different prepaid carrier but it must be on AT&T's network as T-Mobile has no service here (well, voice and 2G roaming, but they do not market here), so what are my options?
Currently I am looking at GoPhone and AIO Wireless, but what other options are there out there that will allow for a minimum of 1.5-2GB of data, 500 minutes/month, and and at least 1000 SMS/MMS messages per month that just works reliably for ALL services? BTW, this is Bismarck, North Dakota, so it pretty much has to be a nation-wide provider.
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I live in Pierre, South Dakota and I just bought my AIO SIM card yesterday. I was using GoPhone for a few months and I don't have one complaint about their service. Speeds were more than what I needed (I pulled down around 6-8 mbps around town). I simply wanted to try AIO because of their 3rd free month promo, plus I like switching service a lot just to test out options. If AIO doesn't work for me, I'll go back to GoPhone. So my advice? Go buy an AIO SIM + plan now, activate before Sept 29 to qualify for the third free month, then switch to GoPhone if AIO isn't working out.
i have had straight talk(att sim) no issues whatsoever in my area. Wifey has straight talk (Tmobile sim) with same results. My second alternative(if ST starts giving me crap) would be the new at&t $60 prepaid(gophone) plan. Cant go wrong with that.
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I live in Pierre, South Dakota and I just bought my AIO SIM card yesterday. I was using GoPhone for a few months and I don't have one complaint about their service. Speeds were more than what I needed (I pulled down around 6-8 mbps around town). I simply wanted to try AIO because of their 3rd free month promo, plus I like switching service a lot just to test out options. If AIO doesn't work for me, I'll go back to GoPhone. So my advice? Go buy an AIO SIM + plan now, activate before Sept 29 to qualify for the third free month, then switch to GoPhone if AIO isn't working out.
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Hmm... interesting, worth checking out...
It seems that promo requires you to buy 2 consecutive months up front though, so $110 for first three months then $55/month after that. Not sure if I am comfortable with that...
Offer ends 9/29/13. New customers only. One month free per customer. Auto-pay enrollment required for in-store activations. Purchase of two consecutive months of service on a qualifying Rate Plan required. Third month free applies to Aio's Rate Plans (Basic, Smart and Pro) and does not include features or other services...
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Hmm... interesting, worth checking out...
It seems that promo requires you to buy 2 consecutive months up front though, so $110 for first three months then $55/month after that. Not sure if I am comfortable with that...
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Hm, I interpreted that as you just buy the first two months when you need to, meaning $55 now, $55 next month, then the third is free. I could be wrong though, and if I am I guess I don't qualify. I assumed it was like that because I don't see any way to buy two months at once.
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i have had straight talk(att sim) no issues whatsoever in my area. Wifey has straight talk (Tmobile sim) with same results. My second alternative(if ST starts giving me crap) would be the new at&t $60 prepaid(gophone) plan. Cant go wrong with that.
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GoPhone or AIO are really all I am hearing about here... Tracfone (and it's variations) are not going to be an option anymore for me, their service, for whatever reason, just doesn't work properly for me for receiving MMS messages, everything else is OK except the spotty data link (not HSPA+ link, that is always rock solid).
GoPhone I am fairly confident will work, AIO Wireless seems to have a fairly good rep as well.
go with gophone. its 2 or 3gb cant remember and unlimited everything else for $60 you get WAY better customer service. As far as coverage ive heard its the same as Tracfone or any other MVNO. I use to have gophone begining of last year and it was pretty much same coverage as my current ST att sim. Not sure if anything changed from then and now.
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go with gophone. its 2 or 3gb cant remember and unlimited everything else for $60 you get WAY better customer service. As far as coverage ive heard its the same as Tracfone or any other MVNO. I use to have gophone begining of last year and it was pretty much same coverage as my current ST att sim. Not sure if anything changed from then and now.
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It's 2GB on GoPhone, AIO wireless is also 2GB... AIO states you get 2GB at full speed and "reduced speeds" if you exceed it, extra data can be purchased at $10/GB and they will send a message if you hit 75% of your limit. I assume GoPhone does something similar? Also, although it's not for me, AIO has a 7GB/month plan for $70 per month.
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It's 2GB on GoPhone, AIO wireless is also 2GB... AIO states you get 2GB at full speed and "reduced speeds" if you exceed it, extra data can be purchased at $10/GB and they will send a message if you hit 75% of your limit. I assume GoPhone does something similar? Also, although it's not for me, AIO has a 7GB/month plan for $70 per month.
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That 70 gb sounds much better IMO. Depending on how much data you need. I personally dont use much, I have wifi available 90% of the time lol. Go to http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/325-US-Prepaid-MVNO-Discussion, they have all the answers you might have.
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That 70 gb sounds much better IMO. Depending on how much data you need. I personally dont use much, I have wifi available 90% of the time lol. Go to http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/325-US-Prepaid-MVNO-Discussion, they have all the answers you might have.
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I only use about 1-1.5 GB per month, I broke 2GB once and that was when I was travelling for work for two weeks in one month about 2 years ago, other than that $70 plan would be a waste... Thanks for the HowardForums link, I used to use that forum long ago but it kind of got filed away and lost in my memory in the last few years.
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I only use about 1-1.5 GB per month, I broke 2GB once and that was when I was travelling for work for two weeks in one month about 2 years ago, other than that $70 plan would be a waste... Thanks for the HowardForums link, I used to use that forum long ago but it kind of got filed away and lost in my memory in the last few years.
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cool, yeah i dont even use 500mb a month lol, so yeah it would be a waste.
As I posted earlier, I used GoPhone for the past few months and it's great. I have the 2GB plan and it's more than enough. I bought an AIO SIM yesterday with the $70 plan just because it was $15 more. Being prepaid, if I can't find a way to reach anywhere near that, even being completely wasteful, I'll switch to the $55 plan.
Anyway, one thing to keep in mind OP: AIO throttles you before you reach your data limit. From their website regarding data speeds:
4G LTE service currently offers download speeds up to 8 Mbps and our 4G HSPA+ service currently offers download speeds up to a maximum of 4 Mbps. On our 3G HSPA/UMTS service, typical download speeds range from approximately 700 Kbps up to 1.7 Mbps.
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Those speeds are good enough for me, the most data I use is streaming Pandora and that might change now that I have 7gb to waste, but it's just something you should keep in mind when deciding.
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It's 2GB on GoPhone, AIO wireless is also 2GB... AIO states you get 2GB at full speed and "reduced speeds" if you exceed it, extra data can be purchased at $10/GB and they will send a message if you hit 75% of your limit. I assume GoPhone does something similar? Also, although it's not for me, AIO has a 7GB/month plan for $70 per month.
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GoPhone texts you when you're at 70% of data and you can add more data at any time. With GoPhone you have an AT&T account and go through their customer service, its their own pay-as-you go plan whereas they are trying to market AIO as a separate service.
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GoPhone texts you when you're at 70% of data and you can add more data at any time. With GoPhone you have an AT&T account and go through their customer service, its their own pay-as-you go plan whereas they are trying to market AIO as a separate service.
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GoPhone sounds like the way to go, think I will stop in the store Monday... Can't do that on AIO, here at least.
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GoPhone sounds like the way to go, think I will stop in the store Monday... Can't do that on AIO, here at least.
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Good Choice! I will switch to gophone in a heartbeat once i start getting crap from straight talk, its gonna happen eventually lol
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GoPhone sounds like the way to go, think I will stop in the store Monday... Can't do that on AIO, here at least.
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Another thing with GoPhone is you can use the self serve kiosks in AT&T stores to refill your account (or do it by phone, text, on-line or ask a customer service rep in the store to do it). Here in MI you don't pay taxes at the kiosks and I'm not sure if that works in other states.
What's wrong with straight talk? $45 a month, unlimited talk and text with your choice of at&t or tmobile sim. Data is supposed to be unlimited as well, but some users report being throttled after 2 gigabytes, others seem unaffected (google it). But seeing as how u don't normally go over 2 gigs, this sounds like the perfect plan for you! Other than some users being throttled after 2 gigs I haven't heard anything bad about straight talk. For $45 a month u can't beat it
Edit: Just to clarify, I'm currently using straight talk on my one x with no issues! Like the O.P. I'm mainly on WiFi and never go over 2 gigs of mobile data. ST is perfect for me and I am considering ST for my nexus 4 as well.
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What's wrong with straight talk? $45 a month, unlimited talk and text with your choice of at&t or tmobile sim. Data is supposed to be unlimited as well, but some users report being throttled after 2 gigabytes, others seem unaffected (google it). But seeing as how u don't normally go over 2 gigs, this sounds like the perfect plan for you! Other than some users being throttled after 2 gigs I haven't heard anything bad about straight talk. For $45 a month u can't beat it
Edit: Just to clarify, I'm currently using straight talk on my one x with no issues! Like the O.P. I'm mainly on WiFi and never go over 2 gigs of mobile data. ST is perfect for me and I am considering ST for my nexus 4 as well.
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Can't get MMS receive to work, tried every setting I could find, along with GoSMS and Handcent, worked with their tech support for half a day and the came back in the end with "sorry, but we don't guarantee MMS to work" after two tech support people and a supervisor failed to be able to fix my problem. Plus the data is unreliable, I am in an area with excellent coverage and the data stream just stops for minutes at a time well I have full signal, then just comes back.
I have just lost faith in Net10/Straight Talk to be honest.
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Can't get MMS receive to work, tried every setting I could find, along with GoSMS and Handcent, worked with their tech support for half a day and the came back in the end with "sorry, but we don't guarantee MMS to work" after two tech support people and a supervisor failed to be able to fix my problem. Plus the data is unreliable, I am in an area with excellent coverage and the data stream just stops for minutes at a time well I have full signal, then just comes back.
I have just lost faith in Net10/Straight Talk to be honest.
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Hm interesting, I did not know that thanks. It appears mms is a bit of a problem for many ppl when using tmobile prepaid, or straigh talk, with the nexus 4. But Many people were able to resolve their issues using the fixes suggested on this reddit thread http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/1iwgx6/cant_receive_mms_messages_with_my_att_straight/ it appears to be random tho bcuz some still experienced issues after trying this.
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Hm interesting, I did not know that thanks. It appears mms is a bit of a problem for many ppl when using tmobile prepaid, or straigh talk, with the nexus 4. But Many people were able to resolve their issues using the fixes suggested on this reddit thread http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/1iwgx6/cant_receive_mms_messages_with_my_att_straight/ it appears to be random tho bcuz some still experienced issues after trying this.
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Thanks for the link... I'll give that idea a shot, hadn't found it in my searching.
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