Please help - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

me understand how the GPS in the Nexus 10 works. I spoke to a Google tech and he said its not a true GPS but that it needs WiFi to work. If I'm near a WfFi hot spot I probably already know where I am. What's the point of having a GPS that needs WiFi?
I just don't get it

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Really helpful answer, I'm kinda wondering why you bothered though.....bored?

The point is so that apps that use your location can work I would presume. Similar to the Nexus 7. You can still use maps for example.

It's called Assisted GPS
Give this a read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
It may still work without the WiFi but will get a better positioning if the antenna is activated. I don't think it actually has to connect to a wifi network.

GPS should still work without wifi. It states on its specs that it comes with GPS not AGPS. So it comes with an internal GPS. Like Samsungs Note 10.1 it has GPS and it is able to work without wifi. Just make sure when using Google Navigation to input your destination prior to cutting wifi off so it has its route already in place. AGPS will be present when wifi is on. Its not a true GPS in ways that it won't get the route information like a regular GPS device would do but it will track you without problems. My Note 10.1 is accurate to 13 feet!
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GPS

What I'm most curious about is the GPS, since Samsung did design the phone does it have the same issues with GPS as the Galaxy S does..
I know we probably won't know until next week, but still curious.
presence06 said:
What I'm most curious about is the GPS, since Samsung did design the phone does it have the same issues with GPS as the Galaxy S does..
I know we probably won't know until next week, but still curious.
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I am pretty damn sure that the issue has been resolved, i mean it would be absolutely stupid if they didnt
I'd hope so, but then again. The original I9000 Galaxy S phone shipped with broken GPS and then when they came to the US, they had broken GPS...
But in the end, software tweaks fixed most of the GPS issues if you had a rooted phone.
Yea my vibrant GPS is fine now but when on jfd firmware GPS and compass were faulty but was only software related.
But even now with everything working I noticed that my GPS and phone antenna interfere cuz putting my phone in flightmode makes GPS much more accurate so I'm thinking this s why they replaced the antennas.
But yea GPS should be fine on NS
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The GPS chip in the NS is different from the SGS series. It'll work just fine.
Acording to FCC they changed the antenna
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/11/29/samsung-nexus-s-fcc/
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Yes they changed the antenna. The Vibrant's GPS works anywhere, hard-ware wise. It was just some of the software builds that it didn't work on.
I just read a review that stated gps worked "flawlessly"
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Which review?
Engadget did a review but stupidly did not test the GPS. What a shame review.
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I just read a review that stated gps worked "flawlessly"
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Il do some searching and try to find it. I don't think it talked about the gps it just had a little headline in the middle that said wifi and gps work flawlessly.
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Here's the review.
http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/06/google-nexus-s-review/
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10.1 retail gps?

Has anybody tested the gps out on the retail tab? If it's like my captivate I'll stay away, if it works well I'm going to have to get one.
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I've got a retail from June 8th and I'm not sure wether or not GPS works. I've enabled it and the status bar icon shows up but I don't think it ever finds any satellites. I've got GPS test installed and it doesn't have any GPS show up.
so is there a GPS in the device?
10.1v works like a charm. 100% good
I hope it works as well. I rarely was able to get on a lock on satellites with the Iconia. I'm hoping the GT will do a better job.
Just fired up my 10.1 I/O and the GPS-Status app found 9 satellites in 5 seconds.
Retail version - GPS is working!
Thanks for conforming guys !!
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Thanks for the info
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My GPS works fine. Retail. Got mine early.
I had a retail version to review and GPS seemed to work fine for me. Of course, lock on works best outside in clear spaces away from tall buildings (ie not between buildings in a large city)
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Gps works fine here too, althouh i also have an external bluetooth gps that ill probably use with it for better battery and accuracy.
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PImping GPS here, looks on, in doors to 30 feet by the time the splash screen on GPS Test goes away. and I thought i had the gps on my Vibrant dialed in good.

Nexus 7 gps questions.

I understand that the nexus 7 has gps capabilities which can only be used if the maps are available offline. When playing with the "make map available option", I notice that you can only select an area so big. Is there anyway to select a larger area, or even better, make entire states available offline? I am planning on using the gps capability for road trips, and would like to get rid of my current old garmin. Also, does when using navigation, will I get traffic updates? I'm assuming not, but figured I'd ask anyways.
Thank you!
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I know they put a restriction on the size of the area you can save for offline. No bigger than a city probably. I'm not so sure about the traffic updates, but I think I heard about something either implemented or will be soon.
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Google Now learns even without Wifi on traffic patterns?

I'm curious how it learns home/work and traffic patterns if I never have it on Wifi in the car. I usually do, but if my data plan gets used up to much will it still be able to perform without an internet or no?
sevron said:
I'm curious how it learns home/work and traffic patterns if I never have it on Wifi in the car. I usually do, but if my data plan gets used up to much will it still be able to perform without an internet or no?
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My technical knowledge on the issue is limited, but I'm going to guess.
Even if there is no wifi data connection, the device can still see SSIDs broadcast from any wifi networks it comes into contact with. It could log these networks and store them. Then when a data connection is re-established it can figure out where the wifi networks located, and combine that with GPS info, which needs no wifi data connection to work, to figure out your route.
Again, just a guess.
Ah. Well I had no net just now and WiFi was off and it picked up my traffic pattern just fine. So I don't know what to think lol.
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sevron said:
Ah. Well I had no net just now and WiFi was off and it picked up my traffic pattern just fine. So I don't know what to think lol.
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Google sees everything, anywher you are
Seriously though, it probably logs what you do, stores info locally when you're connected (weather, directions, etc.) and then, gives you the info when you need it, and updates once you're connected again.
Kinda makes you a bit concerned for the day machines become self-aware.
sevron said:
Ah. Well I had no net just now and WiFi was off and it picked up my traffic pattern just fine. So I don't know what to think lol.
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Connects before you go and when you arrive. Google maps can tell you how long it takes to go from A to B. Why shouldn't it be able to reverse it?
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Kinda makes you a bit concerned for the day machines become self-aware.
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Are you sure they can't now and just are playing dumb?
It has GPS.
mewantnexus7 said:
It has GPS.
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Never have it on. Waste of power.
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Note 4 GPS Accuracy

I'm not getting great gps accuracy with this phone. Usually between 16-30 feet. My other devices are accurate up to 3 feet. I'm wondering what everyone else is getting with this phone. Using GPS status from the play store.
I just tested. I'm getting 10-12 feet.
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gps signal drops
I noticed that when I am using a map program like Waze or google Maps, the gps signal gets lost more often than when I had the Note 3.
raiders13 said:
I noticed that when I am using a map program like Waze or google Maps, the gps signal gets lost more often than when I had the Note 3.
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I notice this as well. My old S3 was very accurate, whereas the Note4 seems to "jump" around.
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10 feet
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10 feet
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What app are you using for this?
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Temetka said:
What app are you using for this?
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That's GPS Test /GPS Test +(paid). Great app.
I've noticed this as well when playing the game ingress. I wonder if it's due to the steel frame? My Galaxy Note 3 and Galaxy S5 was spot on.
Hmm.
Never thought about that.
My GPS does seem to perform better now that I have FireKat ROM on my phone.
Re tested.
Rooted running Firekat ROM and using some tweaks from the lag thread. GPS assist is running in the background.
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I too tested it on FireKat and got the same results. 10 ft. Makes me think it can be enhanced by a software update. Maybe in a future patch.
atrohde said:
I'm not getting great gps accuracy with this phone. Usually between 16-30 feet. My other devices are accurate up to 3 feet. I'm wondering what everyone else is getting with this phone. Using GPS status from the play store.
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Depends on your location and how many satellites are in sight but ~3 meters/~9 feet is about as good as it's going to get with just GPS. Maybe if phone locks into some Glonass satellites it could do a bit better.
Temetka said:
I notice this as well. My old S3 was very accurate, whereas the Note4 seems to "jump" around.
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I made a change on the WiFi settings and my GPS signal improved. I put a check on "Always Allow Scanning." Because I remembered that I had taken it off to try another app and that was around the time that GPS stopped working correctly.
go to Settings>Wi-Fi>Advanced>Always Allow Scanning; Put a check on this option.
Google maps says GPS signal lost a lot with the note 4... doesn't seem very good at getting a location.
Definitely love the phone. Came from the s4. My first note. Thought I was the only one that noticed crappy GPS signal
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I notice my phone says searching for GPS in the drop down thing. Goes away in a few seconds but is annoying.
10' Lock almost Instantly. Fastest lock of any phone I ever owned. And keeps its lock perfectly.
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My GPS works great on my phone.
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Even to the room I'm at. Best GPS I've had on a phone
raiders13 said:
I made a change on the WiFi settings and my GPS signal improved. I put a check on "Always Allow Scanning." Because I remembered that I had taken it off to try another app and that was around the time that GPS stopped working correctly.
go to Settings>Wi-Fi>Advanced>Always Allow Scanning; Put a check on this option.
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Won't that eat battery more?
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I checked the scanning off because when driving using the maps WiFi spots pop up and I can't see where I'm going. LoL
To all those who saying they don't have issues with the GPS they probably don't use it enough to see that.

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