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Video Quality AMAZINGLY good

Not used to making video's as all my previous phones
Universal,Hermes,TytnII,Raphael,Touch HD didn't make them too well.
So just tried out making video's while driving (as a passenger) and
they look stunningly good. There's lot's of sun/cloud changes
and it picks up beautifully.
Frame rate is above 20FPS average in MPEG 640x480. Nice.
EDIT : from comments below I see most people expect more. For once I'm on the satisfied side

What .. it too can't play 640x480 flawlessly ? I saw some benchmarks which played such videos at 200%.

Dr.Sid said:
What .. it too can't play 640x480 flawlessly ? I saw some benchmarks which played such videos at 200%.
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Did you read his comment???? where does it say it cant play 640x480
A sample recording would be nice

Smooth playback is 24 fps and beyond. if it's between 20-24, it sucks.

It's the recording rate in 640x480 not the playback speed.
It will almost always keep the 23.99 frames per second while recording
So I meant to say, it's a great video recorder.

I think the title of this thread is a little bit naive!
C'mon 640 x 480 has been on most high end phones now since 2006!
We now have alot of phones with 640 x 480, a fair few with 720 x 480 (D1?) and one or two with 720p recording.
The hardware in this phone is capable of 720p as is that of the Palm Pre, Iphone 3GS and probably others too.
So, in summary - I dont see 640 x 480 as amazingly good at all!
On the topic, do any devs think it would be possible to up the recording to it's 720p capabilities?

See above. I accidently posted twice.

jamuk2004 said:
The hardware in this phone is capable of 720p
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Qualcomm advertises Snapdragon (rather over-optimistically in my opinion) as being capable of 720p video playback - where do they say it's capable of 720p capture?

My bad !
I did not notice he talks about RECORDING, I thought he talks about playback.

lucid said:
Frame rate is above 20FPS average in MPEG 640x480. Nice.
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So video quality is "surprisingly mediocre", then. Is there any non-HTC smartphone in the world that can't manage at least 30fps at VGA resolution? The Samsung i8910HD can almost manage 24fps at a resolution of 1280x720. If the HD2 could better that, then maybe you could describe it as "amazingly good".

The Snapdragon probably should be able to record in 720P from a hardware point of view. My currrent phone, the i8910, records in 720P at around 22-24fps, and its only packing a 600mhz Cortex 8 CPU.

So i went to the registry and messed with some values a bit. I set the bitrate much higher than the default. It would still capture video @ about 25 fps. Can't really tell the difference in quality, but the filesize has increased by a 100%. I'll try to see if there are more reg settings to mess around.

NZtechfreak said:
The Snapdragon probably should be able to record in 720P from a hardware point of view. My currrent phone, the i8910, records in 720P at around 22-24fps, and its only packing a 600mhz Cortex 8 CPU.
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There's a lot more to it than CPU power, I think - it's a bandwidth issue rather than MIPS. I wouldn't be surprised if Windows Mobile imposes some limitations too.

Video recording in hd

Using the video recording in 720p I have found that the fps of these videos is 24 fps.
Anyone else have a higher fps when recording in 720p and if we can record at higher fps in 720p recording mode?

thekakaman said:
Using the video recording in 720p I have found that the fps of these videos is 24 fps.
Anyone else have a higher fps when recording in 720p and if we can record at higher fps in 720p recording mode?
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question, why would you want to unless your looking for slow motion video playback?
in answer to your question, no you cant, the camera driver is the limiting factor, same reason we cant take wide screen photos

[DEV] 1080p video recording on Iconia A500

1) Need root
2) Unzip
3) Remove with Root Explorer /system/etc/media_profiles.xml
4) copy new media_profiles.xml to /system/etc
!!not replace! only remove then copy new!!
5) Reboot
in Camera app
V1:
High: 1920x1088 (V: 16mb/s A: AAC 44100 / 128kb/s)
Low: 1280x720 (V: 10mb/s A: AAC 44100 / 128kb/s)
V2:
High: 1920x1088 (V: 14mb/s A: AAC 44100 / 128kb/s)
Low: 1280x720 (V: 12mb/s A: AAC 44100 / 128kb/s)
V3:
File format: .mp4
Rear:
High: 1920x1088 (V: 16mb/s A: AAC 44100 / 128kb/s)
Low: 1280x720 (V: 16mb/s A: AAC 44100 / 128kb/s)
Front:
High: 1280x720 (V: 10mb/s A: AAC 44100 / 128kb/s)
Enjoy ppl!

m-deejay said:
1) Need root
2) Unzip
3) Remove with Root Explorer /system/etc/media_profiles.xml
4) copy new media_profiles.xml to /system/etc
!!not replace! only remove then copy new!!
5) Reboot
in Camera app
High: 1920x1088 (V: 16mb/s A: AAC 44100 / 128kb/s)
Low: 1280x720 (V: 10mb/s A: AAC 44100 / 128kb/s)
Enjoy ppl!
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noticeable difference?

I would love to see a comparison video of 720 (vanilla) and 1080 (mod) - same scene, same lighting (not outdoors and definitely must be well lit), same tablet etc. And do not upload to YouTube - they'll just compress it. Post both unedited vids for download somewhere.
This would definitely be worth rooting for me.

Hey all this is what I did in case you dont want to spring the money for root explorer
run "adb shell"
su
mount -o remount,rw -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /system
cd /system/etc
mv media_profiles.xml media_profiles.BAKxml
cp /sdcard/media_profiles.xml /system/etc
mount -o remount,ro -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /system
exit
exit
Then reboot
I have attached the videos I took and the 1080p is a bit more choppy than the 720p, also sorry for the lackluster video its all gloomy and raining outside here.
720p http://www.mediafire.com/?q0wd7876wg4v49h
1080p http://www.mediafire.com/?q5nevj0egrlkf87
Edit: Well I completely ignored gammaRascal (sorry) dont have time now to retake it just this moment perhaps later on if i get a chance

works great! easy to use! thanks! may i ask. why 1088?

Thanks for posting those. There is a definite FPS hit at 1080 also bad rolling shutter since the sensor doesn't seem to be able to keep up to the write speeds.
Question though, 1080, 16mps!? The video you uploaded was 19mb and rt was 11sec - that = 1.7mbps.

gh123man said:
works great! easy to use! thanks! may i ask. why 1088?
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hhmm I guess thats a typo from the media_profiles.xml that op modified cause it should be 1080 didnt notice that
gammaRascal said:
Thanks for posting those. There is a definite FPS hit at 1080 also bad rolling shutter since the sensor doesn't seem to be able to keep up to the write speeds.
Question though, 1080, 16mps!? The video you uploaded was 19mb and rt was 11sec - that = 1.7mbps.
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Yeah its around 15fps, and yeah I dont think its 16mb/s
But according to the media_profiles.xml it is set to 16mb for the bitrate but perhaps the device can not do it. Anyways I don't think its worth worry about this yet they are supposed to have 1080p recording and output with the June update right? BTW I am still on 104.02 so perhaps someone on a higher version can try it out and see if they made any improvements towards that end
Code:
<EncoderProfile quality="low" fileFormat="3gp" duration="30">
<Video codec="h264"
bitRate="10000000"
width="1280"
height="720"
frameRate="30" />
<Audio codec="aac"
bitRate="128000"
sampleRate="44100"
channels="1" />
</EncoderProfile>
<EncoderProfile quality="high" fileFormat="3gp" duration="30">
<Video codec="h264"
bitRate="16000000"
width="1920"
height="1088"
frameRate="30" />
<Audio codec="aac"
bitRate="128000"
sampleRate="44100"
channels="1" />
</EncoderProfile

we have OmniVision OV5650 in our devices
http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=67
need some tweaks in camera.apk.

m-deejay said:
we have OmniVision OV5650 in our devices
http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=67
need some tweaks in camera.apk.
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From the link:"OV5650 enables high frame rate HD video at 60 frames per second (fps)"
I think enabling 720p @ 60 fps will be more fantastic than enabling 1080p!

front camera CAN record 720p video

margosmark said:
Yeah its around 15fps, and yeah I dont think its 16mb/s
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16000000 bits = 1.9 megabytes

m-deejay said:
front camera CAN record 720p video
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I think his point was @60fps, which I don't think it records at. Someone should test 720p @30 and 720p @60 and see if there is a marketable difference.
On a side note, shooting stills RAW would be sweet though I'm curious what the format would be since it wouldn't be JPG.

gammaRascal said:
16000000 bits = 1.9 megabytes
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16000000 bits = 16 megabits = 16 Mb = 2 MB (megabytes) which makes sense
gammaRascal said:
I think his point was @60fps, which I don't think it records at. Someone should test 720p @30 and 720p @60 and see if there is a marketable difference.
On a side note, shooting stills RAW would be sweet though I'm curious what the format would be since it wouldn't be JPG.
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Yeah raw would be interesting to take

margosmark said:
16000000 bits = 16 megabits = 16 Mb = 2 MB (megabytes)
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Ya. I read "16mb/s" as megabytes, not megabits.
Still though, I wonder why it's choking. Especially if the chip supports it @30 fps. Maybe it's considered "full" @15fps... *shrug*
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Maybe try 1080 without audio encoding... Free up resources and see if it can hit 30fps.

Very interesting, I saw the videos and really looks promising.
Does you camera viewer looks grainy at all, mine looks awful, very disappointing ....
Thx
Enviado desde mi A500 usando XDA Premium App

Wow thanks man its much clearer now

so what exactly does this do?

margosmark said:
hhmm I guess thats a typo from the media_profiles.xml that op modified cause it should be 1080 didnt notice that
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No, that's not a typo. I quote from the CoreAVC website:
H.264 encoded video size is always a multiple of 16, and sequences that are 1080 pixels high are encoded as 1088 padded at the bottom. Also H.264 specifications provides a set of cropping parameters to signal that parts of the encoded picture are not important and should not be displayed. Some H.264 encoders fail to specify cropping parameters when encoding 1080 video.

I have a problem, I´m root and use the Roor Explorer, but it says ..... "Warning .. not can be deleted media_profiles.xml Because the file system is area-only" ... you know to delete it?
Thanks and greetings,
Corazao

Mount r/w
Hi:
You have to mount the filesystem (read and write) in the upper left corner of the application should have a toggle to do so.

720p vs 1080p video recording

Do you typically record 720p or 1080p video? I use 720p because the files are smaller and I own a 720p tv. I wondered if 720p might offer better quality in low light conditions because it can average over more pixels in the sensor?
Also if the phone cpu is working too hard at 1080p does it reduce quality by upping compression and increasing lossyness?
Or is 1080p substantially better choice with the only downside being bigger files?
Generally I've found video IQ to be some what independent of resolution (on other devices) because compression generally goes up with resolution negating a lot of the benefits.
Thoughts?

Im using 720p cos it seems to me more clear and more smooth playing...plus less zoom.....
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So 720p plays back smoother? Just on the phone screen or over hdmi?
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jdurston said:
Do you typically record 720p or 1080p video? I use 720p because the files are smaller and I own a 720p tv. I wondered if 720p might offer better quality in low light conditions because it can average over more pixels in the sensor?
Also if the phone cpu is working too hard at 1080p does it reduce quality by upping compression and increasing lossyness?
Or is 1080p substantially better choice with the only downside being bigger files?
Generally I've found video IQ to be some what independent of resolution (on other devices) because compression generally goes up with resolution negating a lot of the benefits.
Thoughts?
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You are right, due to the binning would select the less noisier pixels and thus, the 720p video quality [except for resolution ofc ] would be much better.

I prefer 720p mode, only because of the field of view, it's just too narrow angle in 1080 mode.
Suppose it could come in handy if wanting to shoot something more distant but for indoor work it's not wide enough.
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For me only 720p, because in 1080p I get a thin, purple line over the image that's also recorded into the vid, making my 1080 mode effectively broken.

I always thought 1080 as higher quality than 720p. Maybe for mobile this is different? Any source or test for this?

I'll try and shoot some comparison footage tomorrow.
Not sure if YouTube's compression will make the difference impossible to tell though.

Si14 said:
I always thought 1080 as higher quality than 720p. Maybe for mobile this is different? Any source or test for this?
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This is a totally different matter. Yes, 1080 pixels are "higher" than 720, obviously . But there are other factors also on our device.
I just record in 720p. Never really compared the two, but I don't need 1080p usually, so I' don't need those huge files either.

Good discussion on here, guess I'll have to switch to 720p now on.

I tried recording an apple in the 2 modes and to my surprise the 720p mode is indeed much clearer and wider then 1080p.
Go for 720p

I prefer 720 p... for my the quality is enought and the size of the videos is so better.
Regards

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the LG V30 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

The Video Quality needs an improvement. Most likely some firmware issues that could be addressed by LG. Dynamic Range is low in video, and the stabilisation is disappointing. Maybe they could engage the Electronic Image Stabilisation (EIS), or improve the Optical Image stabilisation (OIS) response time and overall smoothness.

Seeing as there are only pre-production unites with non-final software available, I would think it's a little premature to comment on any aspect of the phone including video quality.

The Last Oracle said:
The Video Quality needs an improvement. Most likely some firmware issues that could be addressed by LG. Dynamic Range is low in video, and the stabilisation is disappointing. Maybe they could engage the Electronic Image Stabilisation (EIS), or improve the Optical Image stabilisation (OIS) response time and overall smoothness.
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Do you own the device or you judge only by the review in Internet?

Video quality looks pretty damn good so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV8tf4lKtgA
I'd love to see higher bitrate with the original camera app, is this a possible hack for the future? There is still Cinema4k, but i'd love to keep the in camera grading.

SinSilla said:
Video quality looks pretty damn good so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV8tf4lKtgA
I'd love to see higher bitrate with the original camera app, is this a possible hack for the future? There is still Cinema4k, but i'd love to keep the in camera grading.
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Manual mode in V20 let you choose as high as 64Mbit bitrate, kut not auto mode though.
What I'd like to know is if there's 3rd party app in PlayMarket that's capable to store UHD 4K video directly in H.265 HEVC format?
SD Spectre is definitely capable of H265 compressing AFAIK

Game of Thrones’ Cinematographer Shot This Homemade Movie on LG’s V30 Phone
http://www.adweek.com/creativity/ga...er-shot-this-homemade-movie-on-lgs-v30-phone/

They're really doing a bang up job in pushing the video quality of the V30. Want to see how it does against a Red Weapon camera? Sure you do!
https://youtu.be/nAth8g05tfs

Hey guys,
it's possible shooting 120-240 fps with full hd?
Thanks

This video was taken on the LG V30, model H933, not that any of the cameras are any different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_MnzeG3PCo

csabasalas said:
can it capture the 4k 60fps video ? codec is h.264 or h.265 ?
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30fps max at 4k. 60fps max at 1080. No idea what codec they're using inside of the mp4 container.

CHH2 said:
30fps max at 4k. 60fps max at 1080. No idea what codec they're using inside of the mp4 container.
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I hope the rooted LG V30 should have QHD 60fps (2k video recording) like the Samsung Galaxy S8/Note 8 camera mod!

FYI, from a Phone Arena Q&A article about the LG V30:
LG V30 Q&A: Your questions answered!
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V30-Q-A-Your-questions-answered_id99088
The rear snapper is capable of shooting in the following modes and aspects in Auto video mode:
16:9 4K [email protected],
18:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
18:9 HD [email protected],
16:9 HD [email protected]
In Cine video mode, which is the one that allows you to pre-apply various cinematic filters and use the Point Zoom feature, you can shoot in the following modes:
16:9 4K [email protected],
18:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
18:9 HD [email protected],
16:9 HD [email protected]
In Manual video mode, where all the fun stuff is, the phone shoots in the following aspects and formats:
16:9 UHD [email protected], 24, 2, or 1fps;
16:9 FHD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
21:9 FHD Cinema [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
18:9 FHD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
16:9 HD [email protected], 60, 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
21:9 HD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
18:9 HD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps.
As far as slo-mo is concerned, you get [email protected] slo-mo, which is now a standard among flagships devices.
The front-facing camera maxes out at:
16:9 FHD 1920x1080
18:9 HD 1440x720
16:9 HD 1280x720.
Video quality is excellent and is definitely geared towards your regular aspiring cinematographer.
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There's other answers to questions in that article, so feel free to go read it in its entirety.

^That article isn't exactly true. While if you are just digging around in the menus looking for frame rates, all you will see is that the fastest listed is [email protected] But if you use the actual mode option listed as Slo-mo then you get 240fps. They were lazy and didn't do their research.

I currently have a 6P which I use very often to record videos of bands in nightclubs. The 6P is great in that it's audio end doesn't get overloaded by loud audio. Curious how the LG V30 does in this setting. Sample of what I get with the 6P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OTwcEYpu8

greatgoogly said:
I currently have a 6P which I use very often to record videos of bands in nightclubs. The 6P is great in that it's audio end doesn't get overloaded by loud audio. Curious how the LG V30 does in this setting. Sample of what I get with the 6P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OTwcEYpu8
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/initial-camera-observations-t3685747/page5
Use the youtube links and not the embedded videos. No idea why the embedded stopped working.
And I should note that those videos were made in a bar where they keep the volume at a level that trips the Receiver As Mic. That doesn't come on until 120 decibels. The RAM was tripped right from the start.

here's my sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Un4M7gW1QQ

really disappointed with all the shaking from the ois / camera. google seems to turn up quite a few results for this issue. Seems no one has mentioned it here though. here's the video I made entirely with the V30 Cine mode.. really not happy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HDo_noiR7c

I get pixelated sky (and any other surfaces with gradient) when shooting in 4k (any bitrate, any camera app)
The solution is h265/HEVC
I checked a lot of reviews on YouTube before buying the phone and their videos don't seem to have this pixelation.
Can somebody shoot a 4k video of the sky with default camera app and do some movements while recording?
I would like to know if it's a wide spread issue or my phone is faulty.
My device model: LG-AS998

i have serious problems with in-video audio quality, especially in the manual mode, with hi-fi setting. on softer sounds it has a weird "compression artifact" like stuttering, although its lossless audio.
this is the mode that sohuld be ok for semi-professional videos according to the ads and phone blogger, but its absolutely not!
so a kinda mediocre video quality that promises great audio to make up for it, but it doesnt deliver.
I made a post about this in QA with samples.
There is pretty clear what I talk about.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/weird-audio-stutter-video-quality-sound-t3919793
it would be nice if someone reacted to this who also tried to use this phone for vlogging, making videos for editing etc.