There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should
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Thats just because any Nexus device will receive any update later than 18 months since it has been release. Last update 4.1.2 occurred on august (19m), so no more updates.
Ok, devs, start porting.
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Relax, there's a post by JBQ saying that he can't comment Nexus S and Xoom, so maybe is a little hope for us
F***K Google if they'll stop supporting Nexus S! They know that the device can perfectly handle 4.2 but for their f*****g commercial reasons they'll not do it! Hate that policy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XDA Developers ... start your engines ... Ready, set, PORT!
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XDA Developers ... start your engines ... Ready, set, PORT!
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Okay, they can port 4.2 to Nexus S. However, that will not be as powerful as AOSP.
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Okay, they can port 4.2 to Nexus S. However, that will not be as powerful as AOSP.
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How do you figure? Android 4.2 doesn't look that different than Android 4.1 except the dual pull down notification menus, updated apps, lock screen widgets and some security features. To be honest, I've seen ICS ports done on Froyo-only devices like the LG Optimus G2x (P999) and they work fine with only a camera bug.
It won't be as clean as AOSP but performance should be pretty good. Hell, there are Nexus One devices running Jelly Bean as we speak. Google said there wasn't enough internal storage to do it but it's being done.
deltatux
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How do you figure? Android 4.2 doesn't look that different than Android 4.1 except the dual pull down notification menus, updated apps, lock screen widgets and some security features. To be honest, I've seen ICS ports done on Froyo-only devices like the LG Optimus G2x (P999) and they work fine with only a camera bug.
It won't be as clean as AOSP but performance should be pretty good. Hell, there are Nexus One devices running Jelly Bean as we speak. Google said there wasn't enough internal storage to do it but it's being done.
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What we have seen so far is that 4.2 is not a major upgrade ... though we may have many changes . when JB can run on nexus one why not on nexus s. Lets hope for best
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It won't be as clean as AOSP
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You affirmed my idea .
deltatux said:
How do you figure? Android 4.2 doesn't look that different than Android 4.1 except the dual pull down notification menus, updated apps, lock screen widgets and some security features. To be honest, I've seen ICS ports done on Froyo-only devices like the LG Optimus G2x (P999) and they work fine with only a camera bug.
It won't be as clean as AOSP but performance should be pretty good. Hell, there are Nexus One devices running Jelly Bean as we speak. Google said there wasn't enough internal storage to do it but it's being done.
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bad google
CM10.1 will bring 4.2 to this phone.
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CM10.1 will bring 4.2 to this phone.
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You have reason, yes for sure, however, Google policy is bad, very bad for not providing AOSP!
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You affirmed my idea .
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You said that it won't perform as well, not that it won't be clean lol.
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You said that it won't perform as well, not that it won't be clean lol.
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If we have NOT a clear ROM(non AOSP) comparing to a clear ROM(AOSP) so the second one will absolutely perform well and better .
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It won't be as clean as AOSP but performance should be pretty good. Hell, there are Nexus One devices running Jelly Bean as we speak. Google said there wasn't enough internal storage to do it but it's being done.
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If Google officially supported the way the Nexus One runs JB I would go buy a Windows 8 phone tomorrow.. It's great for the adventurous end user but re-partitioning SD cards to cram an OS onto a phone would be insanity for any legitimate company to actually support as a viable means of maintaining a device.
Fact is, JB struggles on the Nexus S. It is NOT `buttery' and never has been. Is it acceptable? In most cases. But you have to look at it from Googles view.. They can't keep supporting a device that is walking the fine line between a usable consumer product or a usable toy for a tech nerd to fiddle with.
I think Google kinda forgot that the Nexus was somehow a developer phone. Who cares about photosphere and facelock consumer crap?
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If Google officially supported the way the Nexus One runs JB I would go buy a Windows 8 phone tomorrow.. It's great for the adventurous end user but re-partitioning SD cards to cram an OS onto a phone would be insanity for any legitimate company to actually support as a viable means of maintaining a device.
Fact is, JB struggles on the Nexus S. It is NOT `buttery' and never has been. Is it acceptable? In most cases. But you have to look at it from Googles view.. They can't keep supporting a device that is walking the fine line between a usable consumer product or a usable toy for a tech nerd to fiddle with.
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Okay, i admit, i'm very poor in English .
I just want to undersand that sentence :
If Google officially supported the way the Nexus One runs JB I would go buy a Windows 8 phone tomorrow
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here is the google factory image from gnexus https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/takju-jop40c-factory-1a47c890.tgz enjoy cooking
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Okay, i admit, i'm very poor in English .
I just want to undersand that sentence :
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Although JB does run on a nexus one, it's not particularly fast or smooth. It's there mainly to prove it can be done and because people like a challenge, but it's not particularly usable.
We don't actually know what's new in the core of 4.2 and if the NS can actually run it, until someone ports it. We may end up having the same problem as the Galaxy S. Samsung didn't officially update it to ICS because there simply wasn't enough RAM left after installing TouchWiz. I don't like to say it, but the Nexus S is kind of at the end of its life (update-wise).
Some of the features in 4.2 would be nice....the new camera app, quick settings...and we'll probably get them, but through a custom rom.
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
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new os means a new nexus phone, so i doubt a new os is coming .. just a minor update if anything
Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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Think about it: it might be a new interface/design for a tablet, Android really need something solid if they want any chance of fighting iOS and windows RT.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
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Considering that it seems like RAM usage is going relatively well within ICS, i can't see any worry about that there. 1GB would've helped in any situation, not just moving toward JB which likely wouldn't make a difference. That's the main thing that could have held the NS back. I'm with you unless IO implies anything otherwise. I'm thinking alot more will have to do with dual and quad core setups than our NSs single, particularly with the idea of constant framerates in mind. I see how there isn't that much left to do in the same environment and considering how much effort was put into ICS little will change that's not well below what we see happening, and most of that relates directly to performance and basically making the UI smoother, prettier and maybe a touch more colourful.
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
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I think that if it's more bloated and non-optimized, even less handsets could possibly get it then ICS. So I'm more positive NS will get it
Seeing as ICS was meant to be a unification of tablet/smartphone OS, I don't think they would release another tablet exclusive OS to tear that unity apart again. Also, if we're learning from the past here, the Nexus One got two updates before losing support so Jelly Bean should be the final update for the Nexus S.
Also, since ICS was a major interface revamp, I think Jelly Bean's gonna be focusing on other parts so really, Nexus S does not have any reason not to be able to support it. We'll see though
Have you seen this?
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/20/did-we-just-get-a-sneak-peak-at-jelly-bean-in-google-io-screenshot/#
Seems that the new version will be like froyo / GB transition, more improvement, better visuals. Maybe our devices will get the update.
Yea I'd be happy with a few extra features like magel but the main thing for me is probably just speed and making things look a little nicer ..
I hope they call it 4.1 if it's a smallish update though otherwise will have the same issues iOS six had in that really is like 5.5
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/2...in-play-store-outs-jelly-bean-as-android-4-1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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What makes you say that?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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True...
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This video has absolutely nothing to do with the Nexus S, so what makes you say we won't be getting it?! Galaxy Nexus has also been the first to get 4.0, so what?
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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"all the way" is stretching it though. We got from 2.3.6 to 4.0.4. Much better than the Nexus One in that respect.
Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Agree with you here. Minor updates are usually pushed, major ones aren't necessarily. I think the only reason the Nexus S got ICS is that there would have been an outcry if we didn't. Seriously, a Google phone with absolutely no upgrade? That would have been ridiculous.
Guys in live you can see the Google I/O conference,
http://www.youtube.com/user/googledevelopers?feature=results_main
Say what do you think about that !!
Good luck for Texasice, DK-Zero-Cool to bring to us the best experience for Our beloved Nexus even after 2 years of good and loyal service
Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.
We have 90% ICS. Only Camera video recording is outstanding. Same on many other ROMS for other handsets I presume.
BTW, will ICS ever be 100% on Nexus One? What do you think? ICS camera dev seems to be dead
Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
Here's to 5 new Nexus on Nov 5th, and then cheaper Nexus in 6 months after that - so roll on May 2013 I say!
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Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
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^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
same here waiting for the next nexus device and praying it will not be made by samsung since i never had good times with there products
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^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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ah i was watching Jelly Bean running on GN and it is just so fluid! i was beginning to feel so dare i say jealous, but you guys have totally given me new hope!
If we can hold out a couple of months for the next Nexus we can be proud YES1 :highfive:
Nexus One is our hero. long standing, trustworthy little guy. :victory:
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Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.
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Try this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557606
I have been using for couple of months, I find it functional and stable.
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^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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Hope there will be a 3.7" top notch as well!
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4.3'' is perfect or 4.5
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5.3" please. Bigger IS better
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Buy a tablet
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But that won't fit in my pocket. What I'm planning on is a 5.x phablet and a 10" tablet, both Nexus devices.
Ah well, we can all dream
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As for now, almost half a year, we don't have an ICS stable release and neither we will have it soon, I don't think, in a near future, we will have a JB stable one, although this is just a minor release.
I wish the devs did not agree with me
How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.
I am going to stay with CM7.2 on my nexus one. It's very stable and efficient. Then when the next device comes out I am going use this as my music player
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How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.
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For me it is very stable but CM9 & AOKP ROMs didn't reached stable requirements yet because they have bugs that are important to fix and crucial for the rom's workflow. They are considered experimental for now (CM team released this week CM9 RC1).
Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.
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Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.
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Even Google drops the price of galaxy nexus to $300, I will stick with the N1.
I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.
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I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.
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Especially the New status bar
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Recently Google has announced Android 4.1 (code named Jelly Bean) at their I/O conference.
I don't think Samsung will update our devices with 4.1.
So what are your thoughts on this?
If they do, it will be in 2 years when nobody cares about it anymore.
:/
Why wait for Samsung when we have nearly fully functioning CM9, meaning we can have fully functioning AOSP as well. What would be better than an AOSP JB build?
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Recently Google has announced Android 4.1 (code named Jelly Bean) at their I/O conference.
I don't think Samsung will update our devices with 4.1.
So what are your thoughts on this?
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Why would we not get it? It's a "Small" update that basically just builds off of ICS (Which our devices came with). I seriously doubt it will take longer than 6 months to get it, or if we our lucky we will get a dev port long before then.
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Why wait for Samsung when we have nearly fully functioning CM9, meaning we can have fully functioning AOSP as well. What would be better than an AOSP JB build?
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This is what I was hoping would happen, I read that you were trying to build us a straight from AOSP build which would basically give us the ability to go straight to JB when it is released. The GNexus was rather easy to port over without even having code so hopefully other devices should have a rather easy time as long as they have AOSP for ICS working.
Also, I think as long as we get fully functioning JB I would much rather have this tablet over the Nexus7 so my hands (And wallet) is in your hands devs! =P
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Also, I think as long as we get fully functioning JB I would much rather have this tablet over the Nexus7 so my hands (And wallet) is in your hands devs! =P
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The GTab2 is very similar to the Galaxy Nexus from a hardware perspective, and given that AOSP is almost fully functional minus a few trivial bugs, it should be quite easy to get stock Jelly Bean going once the source is out.
The lack of the MicroSD slot on the tablet is a huge deal breaker for me for the Nexus 7 tablet as I have already found some stuff that complains about a lack of space. Given that it is being marketed as a media/gaming device, it won't take long before the internal storage is filled with content for offline use, even if you have the 16GB version. It's a slight PITA to put stuff on the SD card on our tablets, but at least storage is easily expandable.
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The GTab2 is very similar to the Galaxy Nexus from a hardware perspective, and given that AOSP is almost fully functional minus a few trivial bugs, it should be quite easy to get stock Jelly Bean going once the source is out.
The lack of the MicroSD slot on the tablet is a huge deal breaker for me for the Nexus 7 tablet as I have already found some stuff that complains about a lack of space. Given that it is being marketed as a media/gaming device, it won't take long before the internal storage is filled with content for offline use, even if you have the 16GB version. It's a slight PITA to put stuff on the SD card on our tablets, but at least storage is easily expandable.
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That's exactly how I feel, when I setup my tablet I installed Max Payne, GTAIII, and Shadowgun and just some other various apps (None bigger than 50mb). After doing all that I tried to copy my music straight to the device (~3.5 GB) and it wouldn't fit, luckily I had a 32GB microSD card but if I didn't what would I have to live without? That's a decision I don't want to have to make.
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The GTab2 is very similar to the Galaxy Nexus from a hardware perspective, and given that AOSP is almost fully functional minus a few trivial bugs, it should be quite easy to get stock Jelly Bean going once the source is out.
The lack of the MicroSD slot on the tablet is a huge deal breaker for me for the Nexus 7 tablet as I have already found some stuff that complains about a lack of space. Given that it is being marketed as a media/gaming device, it won't take long before the internal storage is filled with content for offline use, even if you have the 16GB version. It's a slight PITA to put stuff on the SD card on our tablets, but at least storage is easily expandable.
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Any chance of trying to port over the Galaxy Nexus port? I know the GTab 2 and Galaxy Nexus have similar hardware.... Just a thought =P
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Any chance of trying to port over the Galaxy Nexus port? I know the GTab 2 and Galaxy Nexus have similar hardware.... Just a thought =P
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I'm trying to get a Nexus 7 dump to look at. I don't think the Galaxy Nexus stuff will work because it is xhdpi and we are hdpi. Hoping that the Nexus 7 is hdpi, or it could cause some issues trying to port one of the JB dumps.
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I'm trying to get a Nexus 7 dump to look at. I don't think the Galaxy Nexus stuff will work because it is xhdpi and we are hdpi. Hoping that the Nexus 7 is hdpi, or it could cause some issues trying to port one of the JB dumps.
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Makes sense, from what I heard the Nexus 7 uses 260 DPI, so it would be HDPI. Good luck!
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I'm trying to get a Nexus 7 dump to look at. I don't think the Galaxy Nexus stuff will work because it is xhdpi and we are hdpi. Hoping that the Nexus 7 is hdpi, or it could cause some issues trying to port one of the JB dumps.
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Couldn't we just scale it differently? Nexus 7 stuff shouldn't work because uts completly different except for dpi ...
I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung didn't come out with a new tab in the next few months. I just wish they would offer a touch wiz rom or a google experience rom choice to make updates really fast if you choose to use the google rom. I would buy all Samsung devices if that were the case.
I think we could get Jelly Bean because it isnt a huge update like 2.3 to 4.0.
But even if samsung doenst provide 4.1, the Cyanogenmod Dudes will do it.
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If they do, it will be in 2 years when nobody cares about it anymore.
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Are you serious? Has this been the case with every release of Android? Why? If true, when does the S3 get JB update?
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Are you serious? Has this been the case with every release of Android? Why? If true, when does the S3 get JB update?
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He is soo serious . Look at the galaxy s .... and this doesn't happen with them all but samsung yep. I'm honestly afraid this and the gs2 are just simply going to be left in the dust .
The tab3 will ship with jb and we'll still be rockin ics
good day.
I think we actually may get it... not sure of the date on this article, but it was one that I stumbled across listing all the devices that are supposed to get Jelly Bean:
http://tips4droid.com/tablets-that-will-get-android-jelly-bean-update/
Currently running CM10 alpha, I wont switch back to stock. But this looks interesting to see Samsung giving a damn about their devices.
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Currently running CM10 alpha, I wont switch back to stock. But this looks interesting to see Samsung giving a damn about their devices.
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Samsung doesn't have an issue with updating their non-carrier locked devices. Their phones and tablets tend to be some of the first updated to the next OS. However, their carrier locked devices take forever to get updated, if they get updated.
I hope Samsung sees the light and gets this update done...
CM10 is awesome although it is still experimental.
I was just reading through tons of news on portals, and I can't find any info about Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus and 4.2 being rolled out. I mean, Google surely has already decided what to do with us.
I mean honestly, I know Cyanogen or AOKP, or hopefully Rasbean will keep updating my favourite phone ever (really, I have never had a phone this awesome. Pioneer of it's price range and specs!) but I want to know if Google still likes their Nexus S.
it cant be that hard, I mean there really isnt anything new.
I wondered how long it would take for a thread title like this would come up..HAHA! :laugh:
Can't see why not, it got 4.1 so should get 4.2 as it's not a huge update. Well, that's my wishful thinking anyway!
Still JB, will get
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Yes, the Nexus S will get 4.2 officially. It will get 5.0 as well, if not officially then by CyanogenMod.
JavaJunkay said:
I was just reading through tons of news on portals, and I can't find any info about Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus and 4.2 being rolled out. I mean, Google surely has already decided what to do with us.
I mean honestly, I know Cyanogen or AOKP, or hopefully Rasbean will keep updating my favourite phone ever (really, I have never had a phone this awesome. Pioneer of it's price range and specs!) but I want to know if Google still likes their Nexus S.
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Question is not will the Nexus S get 4.2 but when As soon as sources come available.
kwbr said:
Question is not will the Nexus S get 4.2 but when As soon as sources come available.
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I'd say ^^ pretty much ends this convo. Right on target.
Nice to hear all that. Nexus S ftw
Why not
Our Nexus S it's untill powerfull...
It better! I just bought a used one yesterday!
I think the chances are pretty good that the NS will get 4.2, but beyond that I'm skeptical. We're coming up on the phone's two-year anniversary for one thing. It's also begun to chug a bit with Jelly Bean, and I doubt the next major update will be any less resource intensive. Between the age and the hardware limitations, I suspect we're in the twilight months of Google support for the Nexus S.
must will get 4.2.... not official no problem :laugh:
this will probably be the last update the Nexus S gets.
Good thing tho, you know most likely that XDA will have some form of port.
I'm getting the Nexus 4 tho!!! my contract is almost up. I might even get it off contract! (AU$400 for 32GB, thats dirt cheap compared to the iPhone 5 which is AU$900! That's less than half the price, for better specs... and android... and build quality is improved dramatically from the previous Nexusesss)
I think it will get 4.2 ... it an incremental upgrade, so anything 'jellybean' we should get
Can't wait to try 4.2
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It will get official 4.2 for sure, but key lime pye will be here only unofficial.
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last year, when I bought my Nexus S, someone told me: "It's a year's old phone.. don't waste your money..."
I'm almost sure for 4.2 ...
I personally think about a Google "3 letters law" for Nexus devices. Nexus One went from E(Eclair) to G(Gingerbread), passing by Frojo, Nexus S will go from G to J passing by ICS, and GNex will "live" from I to L ... Officially speaking, I mean And, of course, I hope there will always be some clever group (like CyanogenMod, for example) or "one man band" who enjoy to develop ROM or kernel for our preferred devices :fingers-crossed:
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It better! I just bought a used one yesterday!
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You made the right choice .
It remains to be seen if the Nexus S and Xoom will get 4.2 or if 4.1.2 was the last update. We won't know until 4.2 gets released to AOSP. I will say that since they seem to have axed the Honeycomb-style tablet interface from 4.2, the Xoom may be out. As for the Nexus S...historically Google has only maintained support for the current and previous phone generation, which would now be the Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus. That said, however, I don't see anything major that would lead me to believe that the Nexus S couldn't run 4.2...unless they tossed out support for capacitive buttons entirely.
Regardless of whether or not there is a stock 4.2 ROM for either device, I'm sure the developers here will have custom ROMs that have it baked in.
Anyone hear any news about when we can expect 4.3 or 4.4 ?
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Anyone hear any news about when we can expect 4.3 or 4.4 ?
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Im curious about this too. Im thinking of picking up this bad boy tomorrow. I just returned a Galaxy Note 3 (too big!)
Why does it even matter ? What can't you do with your phone while running 4.2.2 ?
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Why does it even matter ? What can't you do with your phone while running 4.2.2 ?
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There are tons of improvement, bug fix, and optimization in 4.3. With current 4.2.2 G2 is already a beast, cant wait how the performance with 4.3 or even 4.4
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Why does it even matter ? What can't you do with your phone while running 4.2.2 ?
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Read up about TRIM
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Read up about TRIM
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Does this phone really need TRIM? I had 2 devices that really "needed" it.
One of them having the I/O etc issues and etc. Htc One X and Nexus 7. It did not make any difference .
No matter what I do, the Nexus 7 even with the TRIM running, btw read up on the conditions when it will fire away, is incredibly laggy. (And yes everything was tried, factory images, custom roms, custom kernels, setups) Will go for exchange
I would say TRIM is a bit overrated.
4.3 might not be for everyone to look for.
However rumors around 4.4 seem to be nice. I would have nothing against to skip the 4.3 and go directly to 4.4.
If they really cut down on the hungry resources and it will run on lesser devices, newer ones will literally fly
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Anyone hear any news about when we can expect 4.3 or 4.4 ?
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guessing, november
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/514505/20131017/android-4-kitkat-update-8-htc-lg.htm#.Ul_VadJDs1c
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Im curious about this too. Im thinking of picking up this bad boy tomorrow. I just returned a Galaxy Note 3 (too big!)
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lol..yes that damn phone is huge....
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Does this phone really need TRIM? I had 2 devices that really "needed" it.
One of them having the I/O etc issues and etc. Htc One X and Nexus 7. It did not make any difference .
No matter what I do, the Nexus 7 even with the TRIM running, btw read up on the conditions when it will fire away, is incredibly laggy. (And yes everything was tried, factory images, custom roms, custom kernels, setups) Will go for exchange
I would say TRIM is a bit overrated.
4.3 might not be for everyone to look for.
However rumors around 4.4 seem to be nice. I would have nothing against to skip the 4.3 and go directly to 4.4.
If they really cut down on the hungry resources and it will run on lesser devices, newer ones will literally fly
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I def know that the LG G2/Moto X does not need trim.....
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Anyone hear any news about when we can expect 4.3 or 4.4 ?
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Wait till N5 launches with 4.4, then it will only be a matter of time till its port to the G2.
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I understand about TRIM but if LG were to ask you that you can only have 1 ROM...4.3 or 4.4 what would you choose?
You can get 4.3 with TRIM or you can get 4.4 with TRIM + other features.
I want LG to skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4 because I want the new features + TRIM. In another 1-2 weeks, 4.3 will be nothing but history when 4.4 will be announced by Google. Everyone will want 4.4 and as much as you trust LG in thinking they will provide a software update for both 4.3 and 4.4, that is very unlikely. The process for a carrier and OEM to release an Android update is a long process and if LG were to go through this process, I want the latest and greatest Android update. 4.3 is very minor and other than TRIM support, I don't really care about the rest of the features.
4.3 Is awful. I kept 4.2.2 on my nexus devices due to the suck that is 4.3. I couldn't care less about an upgrade right now.
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No matter what I do, the Nexus 7 even with the TRIM running, btw read up on the conditions when it will fire away, is incredibly laggy. (And yes everything was tried, factory images, custom roms, custom kernels, setups) Will go for exchange
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You actually had a laggy Nexus 7?
My Nexus 7 is buttery smooth with PAC 3.99 (Android 4.3).
dmbardal said:
You actually had a laggy Nexus 7?
My Nexus 7 is buttery smooth with PAC 3.99 (Android 4.3).
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I still do....
PA, CM, stock, factory resets, all kernels. And all the tools. Nothing helps... And I even have the best variant...
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Honestly, G2 on 4.2.2 is a damn good phone. I say get it, use it and prepare for Nexus 5 Roms to be available shortly. Trust me, you'll be happy you did.
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I still do....
PA, CM, stock, factory resets, all kernels. And all the tools. Nothing helps... And I even have the best variant...
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The new 2013 model ?
I'm still on the "old" 2012 model.
You should return it if you ask me.
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The new 2013 model ?
I'm still on the "old" 2012 model.
You should return it if you ask me.
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the old model... I do not know that the new models had this problem...
anyways be happy you do not have that lag. there are like gazillion theories why it happens... boiling down to ****ty hw ... Once the SD gets full on extensive use the perfomance starts degrading, more and more quickly till the point factory resets wont do nothing...
Anyway enough OT Back to this phone.
You all guys think it that the Nexus 5 will be based on this.
Well I do not wanna pop your bubble.
But as mentioned earlier I had Nexus 7 old one with Tegra 3. And the Htc One X basically same device.
Thinking that we will have as well clones from Nexus 7. Did not happen and I actually do not know if anything or anything that matters came from the Nexus 7 to Htc One X despite being the same Chipset and etc.
Well could have been caused also cuz of Nvidia locking down their sources. But I think Snapdragon is also sometimes not so nice.
Anyways, saying that there will be for sure ports and etc. Till we really do not have the specs black on white, you wont know for sure.
Also there are already differences that might be crucial. So who knows how good the ports will be anyways.
Still knowing all this I ordered it. I would love nothing more then AOSP with Xposed and lets say Gravity Box + Greenify to make me happy
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You all guys think it that the Nexus 5 will be based on this.
Well I do not wanna pop your bubble.
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The FCC filing for what we think is the nexus 5 was based on the g2. A recertification or something IIRC. Other than the rumor of there maybe being multiple nexus phones coming out it seems like a lock that the n5 is g2 based.
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The FCC filing for what we think is the nexus 5 was based on the g2. A recertification or something IIRC. Other than the rumor of there maybe being multiple nexus phones coming out it seems like a lock that the n5 is g2 based.
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Not the point I was making though. I just meant that there might be differences that will make a 1:1 port not possible and we will have to forget about some stock features of the G2.
Getting of track there . 4.4 I do not remember google teasing so much with it ... or Nestle...
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Not the point I was making though. I just meant that there might be differences that will make a 1:1 port not possible and we will have to forget about some stock features of the G2.
Getting of track there . 4.4 I do not remember google teasing so much with it ... or Nestle...
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Sure, but I'd expect AOSP roms to show up shortly afterwards. LG based stock one.. who cares. However it would be smart if LG did leverage their development work on the n5 to be the first out with 4.4 on a non-nexus device.
I really don't want to hurt feelings, but seeing past neither 4.3 nor 4.4 coming anytime soon.
Lg will highly updates it's phones once if it suits & that is also about year late. Than forget updates through lg.