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It seems everyone here, looking forward to their next android device, want something 4" or above.
I would've expected that 4" or above would be for a small percentage, like a niche, and most people would want another 3.7 inch screen.
If there ever is a Nexus 2, or whatever the next Google dev phone, I would prefer it to be the same size as the Nexus One, I think it's the perfect size for a phone.
Anyone with me?
*tumbleweed rolls by*
Just a tad too small for me. If it had a 4" screen it would be easier to surf the web, type emails, read word documents, etc.
I like phones one size and a tablet another. The Nexus is a good size. In the world of Android devices, it's old and it's still the best. Maybe it could use a front facing camera but, who uses those anyway?
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More internal memory
Faster processer
Same Vanilla goodness
Minor tweaks on a GREAT phone.
I love the form factor. Four inches is too much for me.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.
Ebonwumon said:
I love the form factor. Four inches is too much for me.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.
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NSFW LOL
I agree, compared with the droid phone this thing is perfect width wise.....man I can see ppl googling me and finding this quote...*sigh*
Yep, i love the size of the Nexus One. Phones like the HTC EVO are just a little too big for my taste.
3.7" is too small.
4" is great and easy to pocket.
4.3" is even better from a usability standpoint, but obviously more difficult to pocket.
When I'm at the gym doing cardio, I place my N1 on the machine so I can watch videos hands-free. But some machines have the back panel just too far so that the 3.7" screen looks tiny. A tablet would be great, but I don't have the money for a phone AND a tablet, let alone the fact that there are no tablets anyway.
A 4.3" screen would be great for this.
I love the N1. Fits in my pocket well. The screen in landscape is great to type on and I'm a big guy with big hands. Typing in portrait mode is a little tight but thats why spell check and prediction are great. I've had a lot of phones and I know there are newer phones with all these great specs and whatnot, but I haven't seen one that has made me want to ditch my N1. Haven't looked back since I bought it in March.
I'm trying to think it's the perfect size, and it is as a phone and a pocketable device.
OTOH I'm thinking about a car mount and want a long gooseneck so it'll be within 2' of my face so I can see Trapster. Want this gooseneck to swivel down beside the console so I don't look like a dork on dates, but there is no such thing as a swivel with gooseneck. This makes me suspicious the screen is too small.
My N1 is the perfect width wise for my hand, pocket, car mount, and her tight azz jeans
Nexus One owner and I also think it is the perfect size. I bought the G2 thinking I was missing out on something, I found out very fast that the Nexus One is IMO the better looking, build quality is top notch and as far as the keyboard is concerned, don't really use it, I use Vlingo for just about everything on both phones. The Nexus One is a phone I just will never give up. No matter what device comes out in the future, will always keep the Nexus One.
PS. If all the app developers would allow their apps to be moved to the memory card the only down side to the Nexus would not be an issue.
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I like phones one size and a tablet another. The Nexus is a good size. In the world of Android devices, it's old and it's still the best. Maybe it could use a front facing camera but, who uses those anyway?
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More internal memory
Faster processer
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Minor tweaks on a GREAT phone.
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I dont thng internal memory is solution , i am using cm6 with i can put every app to my class 10 16gb sdcard
Agree. Nexus's size is perfect for me.
The N1's size is just right for me! I love using phones in one hand, and when I tried the Galaxy S for a couple of weeks, I always had problems accessing the top of the screen with my thumb. With the N1, I can just touch the top enough to dismiss notifications.
4" screens are only nice when you wanna watch videos, but watching videos is not really what I do on my N1 anyway.
Sometimes I wish it were a bit smaller for day-to-day use, at least for my taste.
Almost prefect as is. Trim the "fat" on the bottom, and then it's perfect. I want the 3.7 screen with about 1/8 of trim around it! When I need a bigger screen, I get my tablet out..
I really like the size of the N1. I've tried the Droid, Droid X, Evo, Incredible, Vibrant, Galaxy slider, and more but nothing so far is making me want to spend the money for a new device.
I wish it were just a hair wider. I notice the slight difference between iPhone and N1 when typing in portrait mode.
You know what I wish?
I wish they start making smartphones with no space between the screen and the end of the chassis...so a 4,3" screen phone would have the size of a nexus...and it would look awesome to me...imagine to have the only screen in your hands
Erase that useless boarders!
elmerendeiro said:
You know what I wish?
I wish they start making smartphones with no space between the screen and the end of the chassis...so a 4,3" screen phone would have the size of a nexus...and it would look awesome to me...imagine to have the only screen in your hands
Erase that useless boarders!
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Only problem with that is, as I found out with the SGS, which is sort of quite close to how you described, is that when you pick it up, if say the screen is already on, the edges of your hands (i.e. the flabby bits of your palms) catch the incredibly sensitive touch screen resulting in you often running things you didnt mean to run (like the browser who's icon was in the bottom right of the screen).
The idea sounds good in theory but in reality I dont think it'd work, it would be a nightmare IMO
Ok i looked on youtube and the side by side if the SGS2 and the Sensation shows the SGS2 screen size is smaller.I have the EVO 3D now but maybe want to return it if the SGS2 comes out with the same size screen 4.3 but as said side by side they look smaller anyone have facts?
SGS2 screen is actually 4.27".
Yes i know it is 4.27 and when you put it next to the evo 3d or sensation you can see it pretty good it is smaller (( everyone has there thing about a phone some camera some speed with me it is the screen size.I like the size of my evo 3d i do not want to go smaller owell.
Sensation screen is slightly longer, but the SGS2 is slightly wider. Holding both of them together the difference is negligible and coming from the DHD which is bigger than both them, you struggle to notice the difference.
At the end of the day the SAMOLED+ shines through regardless of the .03 inches!
Regards.
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Sensation screen is slightly longer, but the SGS2 is slightly wider. Holding both of them together the difference is negligible and coming from the DHD which is bigger than both them, you struggle to notice the difference.
At the end of the day the SAMOLED+ shines through regardless of the .03 inches!
Regards.
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I agree. I liked the DHD width, but I didn't like the Sensation's width. I prefer a wider keyboard than a more narrow one. That's just me. But hey, I'm sure there are a lot of people who would prefer it the other way around . When I held the DHD wow, the screen size was PERFECT for typing ^^ hehe. The best is the dell streak though for screen size haha.
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Yes i know it is 4.27 and when you put it next to the evo 3d or sensation you can see it pretty good it is smaller (( everyone has there thing about a phone some camera some speed with me it is the screen size.I like the size of my evo 3d i do not want to go smaller owell.
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Difference is minimal, but as you said, owell.
The 3D screen is a huge disadvantage if you like swype.
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Dont like the big bezel on the htc compared to the slicklow profile gs2. I was super tempted for the atrix when it first launched with all those positive reviews but saw that thick ass bezel and thank goodness i waited for the gs2!
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Is it me or it seems the 2 phones have different aspect ratio on the screens? Even if the sgs2 is a little smaller in height it seems larger in the photo...
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Is it me or it seems the 2 phones have different aspect ratio on the screens? Even if the sgs2 is a little smaller in height it seems larger in the photo...
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Yeah I'm fairly certain that the SGS2 is 16:10 while the other is 16:9
Evo3d:126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm (weight 170g)
SGS2:125.3 x 66.1 x 8.5 mm (116g)
http://www.carrypad.com/2011/08/12/a-critical-look-at-the-interface-and-ergonomics-of-android/all/1/
Interesting article and the main reason none of the newer, more powerful phones interest me.
While i kind of agree with this guy, I've been annoyed by the small size of the screen on the Hero many times. When you want to check something quickly on your phone, the small screen size is fine. However, when you're using the phone to pass time (browsing the web while on road trips etc.) it can be really annoying to have a small screen. You have to constantly use your fingers to scroll up and down when reading, and viewing any sort of graphs is impossible. Bigger screens are usually better for gaming aswell, since you can see details better, and touch controls get bigger.
I am not happy,I can't do anything ..
thats why i choosed desire hd over se arc cauz of it's screen ratio ,, to long that you cant manage it with one hand at all , and you know , playing with your phone while you driving with your 2 hands = go to hell !
good info. thanks
The screen size is slightly thinner than an iPhone's by about 5mm, and some people might find it harder to type with because of that, but IMO, the screen size is just right. I can't imagine carrying around a phone with a 4.3" screen in my front pocket.
i think the best screensize is 3.7 -4.0 inch screens, i want the size because i surf a lot, but i still want it to be pretty portable
I agree somewhat with the article, but I do find I want my Hero screen to be bigger. Maybe the size of the original Desire. But the larger screens do look nice too.
Ultimately, you will all be tempted by the big touchscreen. Join the dark side.
Look at this all craze, manufacturers are testing even bigger sizes, +5inch, and along with the tablet spree, it looks like searching for the perfect size, perfect ratio.
A company with a fruit in it's logo knew it all along. 3.5 inch for a phone, 10 inch for a tab. Ekhm..
I'm just gonna playa smartass prophet and say that android tablets are gonna get bigger too. 12 inch, maybe 13 inch. But I doubt if much more without a breakthrough in battery technology. Li-ons would really suck on 13 inch tab, quad core.
A good article.
http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/25750/The_Galaxy_Note_confirms_it_people_want_larger_screens
It jokes about the "optimal" iphone 3.5 incher.
YES. People like Galaxy Note.
Sent from the galaxy far far away.
This is so true. At first i thought "damit is that thing big, i should bring it back to store" but when i put it in my pocket it fits and i can walk run and jump with the note in my pocket. So for me its the best phone ever until now iv'e ever had. I love the scree size, if i compare it to the holy iphone i have to laugh everytime about the size..... Its so cute this little iphone thing. I could give it to childrens who can play with it in a sandbox.
Exactly. Those "tech bloggers" should be making fun of people trying to use their "revolutionary" smartphone's functions on a tiny, heavy and fragile 3.5 incher instead...
I hardly ever played any games on my EVO but thats all I do on my Note!!
It simply kicks ass!! Fun times!!
All the reviewers are Jabronis.....perfect size the note is ....especially if you have big hands like me ....cant stand anything else will never go back.....
On-screen controls in games always felt wrong on those small 3.5" phones.. on the S2 they felt better.. on the note they make sense..
sure smaller is sometimes better.. but when packing all this power into a device biggish is good
5.3" aint that big either, just a tad bigger then my wallet but alot thinner.
i followed some links in that blogg and came onto another planet where i was told the android UI makes us need larger screens cos else we wouldn't see anything if android got higher res.. font-size? bigger icons? felt like easy fixes...
kinda feels like iphonE lovers just digs deeper and deeper into something to hold on to.. to make them feel "i did the right choice, my phone is the best"
sad truth is my sister loves the Note but felt she couldn't buy it cos its to big.. she would feel looked at and laughed at.. so she settled with the S2.
i often tell ppl if they are not into computers, etc when they ask if they should buy an iphone or Note to buy an iphone, the safe no-one will laugh at your choice and no-one will question why. its kinda like putting on pants, no one will ask you why.
sorry for the rant..
Awesome. Hope the note 2 or 3 has a slightly bigger screen. 6 inches would be even more awesome
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people want larger screens
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... or people want a stylus and Apple may have to eat SJ's words if they want to catch up.
Apparently a lot of Asian markets like the Note because it's easier to input characters than a keyboard based interface.
Personally, any larger form factor and it would be difficult to fit in my jeans pocket.
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Awesome. Hope the note 2 or 3 has a slightly bigger screen. 6 inches would be even more awesome
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Agreed, but only if the kept the same form factor as they have now, but getting the screen bigger by stretching it all the way to the edges, in other words, almost no bezel.
i remember a point when I said 5" is the most any phone should go to. well, now I do believe the limit is 6" since anything bigger than that is a tablet fully at that point.
man i want a 6" phone or a SAMOLED+ HD tablet with telephony
I have to admit - i bought the Note without trying it first. When it arrived, i unboxed it and was terrified...
My first impression ? Oh my god, what have i done...but it took two days of using - and now i don't even notice the size. What's more - i don't really mind the size anymore, it feels normal, and is very useful.
iPhone's 3,5" was nice - 3-4 years ago. After that i moved to 4,3" HD7 and now to 5,3" Note. Bigger IS better here, especially with superior AMOLED screen.
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I have to admit - i bought the Note without trying it first. When it arrived, i unboxed it and was terrified...
My first impression ? Oh my god, what have i done...but it took two days of using - and now i don't even notice the size. What's more - i don't really mind the size anymore, it feels normal, and is very useful.
iPhone's 3,5" was nice - 3-4 years ago. After that i moved to 4,3" HD7 and now to 5,3" Note. Bigger IS better here, especially with superior AMOLED screen.
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I can tottaly relate, I bought it blindly like you :-D
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I also almost regret my Note but after 2 days ... I was just hooked
I think, it's not like people want large screen, it's just it fit some people needs (like watching movies, browsing etc)
Yeah there's still more room in my pocket for something bigger.
But not my jean pockets lol. I don't know how you guys can put this phone in your jean pockets. And I want a full usb port or 2 on it. The more things it can do like a netbook, the better.
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A good article.
http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/25750/The_Galaxy_Note_confirms_it_people_want_larger_screens
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This is more a rant than an article.
The note does not confirm that "people want larger screens". What it confirms is that some people want larger screens.
The claim that "Android phones go for the larger screen" is also not correct. There are many Android phone manufacturers and many models, of all shapes and sizes. Search using gsmarena finds 185 Android models with sceeen of size 3.2" or smaller.
I've got the largest hands in the whole town so the NOTE feels average to me.
Sometimes I even think, maybe this should be a little larger like 5.5inches. But now I've equipped the NOTE with the TPU case. Its quite protective, has a very grippy sides and it has a KICKSTAND!!!
But with the case on, I have some trouble slipping it into some pockets (jeans mainly).
So after pondering a bit, I think Samsung should make the NOTE with a kickstand, and shave off the bezel from the top and bottom portions.
OR
Make it smaller (from 147 x 83mm; 5.3inch) to 145mm x 79mm (shorter, little less wide, 5.1inch). It needs to shave off some of the bezel, for the premium aspects.
Though my biggest problems is that:
-Back and Menu buttons should be physical (its too damn easy to accidentally press them; frustrating when you accidentally exit an App and have to start from scratch)
-They should position the volume rocker on the right side and make it clickier (like the Nexus S)
-They should position the power button on the top and make it larger and clikier (like the Nexus S)
-Trade the position of Back and Menu button; and hitting the Menu button should bring the contexual menu's on the bottom and the search bar on the top.
If Samsung hired me for a prototype, my device would outsell any competitors!
I'm also for shaving off the Bezels but to have instead a larger screen by keeping the same overall size.
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I'm also for shaving off the Bezels but to have instead a larger screen by keeping the same overall size.
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---What are your thoughts on the kickstand?
Should it be on the device, or on the case?
(If its on the case, it means you need to use a case, meaning the overall size is increased and its harder to draw/place into pockets.)
---What are your thoughts on the Navigational Buttons?
On-screen? all physical? all capacitive? or have the Home physical and the rest capacitive?
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Agreed, but only if the kept the same form factor as they have now, but getting the screen bigger by stretching it all the way to the edges, in other words, almost no bezel.
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I think the idea of 6 inches with the same form factor is great all they would then need to do is increase the resolution as the pixel density will not compete with the likes of Sony Arc S or some of the other 4-4.5 HD screens.
If they did both of these and then made even better stylus apps and support. Then I think it would be game over even for some of the tablet market.
One a separate NOTE, does anyone know if the Note2 is confirmed?
Kangal said:
---What are your thoughts on the kickstand?
Should it be on the device, or on the case?
(If its on the case, it means you need to use a case, meaning the overall size is increased and its harder to draw/place into pockets.)
---What are your thoughts on the Navigational Buttons?
On-screen? all physical? all capacitive? or have the Home physical and the rest capacitive?
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I had a kickstand on my HD7. Thought it was nice - at first. Later on...i never even used it. Phone would just fall down, and it was impossible to use it with any cable connected ( earphones ) cause it would - again - fall.
I like the idea of a kickstand, but i think it might be a bit hard to make it stable enough on such a large phone.
As the days goes on and i look at that smartphone that i want it, of course, i ask myself (for the start) if is an optical illusion or i see right and what is about i talk:
compared wiht LG Optimus G, the screen is same but resolution could not be really same, cause a little space down is eat by the capacitive buttons (see in picture of Engadget review, below, or here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/)
So, the ask is, Does the display on LG Nexus 4, really 4.7" and 1280x768 resolution if 15% of that space is capacitive buttons and dont show anything else ?
beberobu said:
As the days goes on and i look at that smartphone that i want it, of course, i ask myself (for the start) if is an optical illusion or i see right and what is about i talk:
compared wiht LG Optimus G, the screen is same but resolution could not be really same, cause a little space down is eat by the capacitive buttons (see in picture of Engadget review, below, or here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/)
So, the ask is, Does the display on LG Nexus 4, really 4.7" and 1280x768 resolution if 15% of that space is capacitive buttons and dont show anything else ?
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yes it is...
every review say that One x's display is slightly better than LG one...so i made this question to htc forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33605612#post33605612
HTC isn't a screen manufacturer,so where they took the best display on the merket?
I thought the new LG display was absolutly the best one... :crying:
beberobu said:
As the days goes on and i look at that smartphone that i want it, of course, i ask myself (for the start) if is an optical illusion or i see right and what is about i talk:
compared wiht LG Optimus G, the screen is same but resolution could not be really same, cause a little space down is eat by the capacitive buttons (see in picture of Engadget review, below, or here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/)
So, the ask is, Does the display on LG Nexus 4, really 4.7" and 1280x768 resolution if 15% of that space is capacitive buttons and dont show anything else ?
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The LG Nexus 4 do not have capacitive buttons. Neither do it take up 15% of the space.
Google posted the spec themselves, they would not lie about it, that would result in a class action lawsuit.
beberobu said:
As the days goes on and i look at that smartphone that i want it, of course, i ask myself (for the start) if is an optical illusion or i see right and what is about i talk:
compared wiht LG Optimus G, the screen is same but resolution could not be really same, cause a little space down is eat by the capacitive buttons (see in picture of Engadget review, below, or here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/)
So, the ask is, Does the display on LG Nexus 4, really 4.7" and 1280x768 resolution if 15% of that space is capacitive buttons and dont show anything else ?
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The important detail is that when watching full screen videos, the buttons auto-hide and you can use that screen space.
beberobu said:
As the days goes on and i look at that smartphone that i want it, of course, i ask myself (for the start) if is an optical illusion or i see right and what is about i talk:
compared wiht LG Optimus G, the screen is same but resolution could not be really same, cause a little space down is eat by the capacitive buttons (see in picture of Engadget review, below, or here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/)
So, the ask is, Does the display on LG Nexus 4, really 4.7" and 1280x768 resolution if 15% of that space is capacitive buttons and dont show anything else ?
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Technically, 1280x720 is usable, the rest is used on the software keys
Not true, you took the value off the wrong dimension.
l0st.prophet said:
Not true, you took the value off the wrong dimension.
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Oh, so I did, derp
Maybe 1200x768 then
The buttons take up 96 pixels vertically on the Galaxy Nexus. Assuming the same size, that leaves 768x1184 "usable" resolution at 4.45 inches.
so the screen is not 16:9 anymore...but 15:9 -->1280x768 pixels
so if we play a 720p video in landscape,we will have a black bar up or down the video?
nic85 said:
so the screen is not 16:9 anymore...but 15:9 -->1280x768 pixels
so if we play a 720p video in landscape,we will have a black bar up or down the video?
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No. The bar will disappear when watching videos.
Unconn said:
No. The bar will disappear when watching videos.
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i am not talking about the bar with 3 keys...
When will a company make a phone with on screen keys that don't take up screen real estate.
When you factor in the software keys the screen is closer to 4.4 inches.
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When will a company make a phone with on screen keys that don't take up screen real estate.
When you factor in the software keys the screen is closer to 4.4 inches.
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How do you expect them to make ONSCREEN keys without taking SCREEN real estate
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How do you expect them to make ONSCREEN keys without taking SCREEN real estate
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Search for gnex fullscreen. There are several mods that let you hide soft navigation keys and replacce with gesture based navigation or something like the camera has in 4.2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKNgoLbml-4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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supersain08 said:
How do you expect them to make ONSCREEN keys without taking SCREEN real estate
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With the Nexus 4 I would say put the onscreen keys in the bezel area. (Where the hard keys would go) It would make it a 5 inch screen in theory but at all times you would have the full 4.7 of screen real estate to use.
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NardVa said:
With the Nexus 4 I would say put the onscreen keys in the bezel area. (Where the hard keys would go) It would make it a 5 inch screen in theory but at all times you would have the full 4.7 of screen real estate to use.
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So you want a bigger phone, thus giving you more real estate? Easy solution: buy a Galaxy Note II.
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So you want a bigger phone, thus giving you more real estate? Easy solution: buy a Galaxy Note II.
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no... im pretty sure he said he wanted a screen with a thinner bezel on the bottom so that with the on screen buttons, it looks only just bottom heavy (in terms of black)
There seem to be a lot of confusion about the screen size of this device due to google including the on screen menu buttons to the advertised screen size. I have made a lot of research on this topic and contacted several testers and here is the deal... Similarly to the Galaxy Nexus, the 4.7" full screen mode (without on screen menu keys) only activates when watching videos. No other apps such as games, gallery or browser support it. The external dimensions of the phone are those of any other 4.7" phone, but the usable screen never exceeds 4.45" due to the on screen keys always present, except for videos. 16:9 videos, due to the aspect ratio of the N4, will have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, and won't be truly full screen either, but with a better 4.6" diagonal... Note that if you happen to shoot photos or videos at native screen ratio you will then have black bars on each side of your TV. A mod was made available for rooted Gnex to hide the on screen buttons and use them only when needed. Without it, the N4 is a big phone with a small screen compared to the competition.
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The buttons take up 96 pixels vertically on the Galaxy Nexus. Assuming the same size, that leaves 768x1184 "usable" resolution at 4.45 inches.
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That's perfect! I think a study showed that the ideal screen size for the average hand is 4.5" and that's pretty darn close and just right under it!
The left over screen size is perfectly fine and the fact that the soft keys auto hide make it much more convenient when doing things such as watching videos. The size of the screen makes me a happy camper!