Hey guys, i looked around and couldnt find a thread so here's one.
I want to know, how did you all install windows8 pro? Did you do a clean install or installed without wiping anything?
I read on the internet that you can't install windows with a full wipe. After you do that, Microsoft blocks the activation of product key even if it's legit. MS says that windows 8 pro is only meant as an upgrade. What the f*** does this mean? Why is Microsoft having any objections on how we use something that we have bought legally?
Here's one article.
Let me know your thought on this. Did you face such an error while installing Windows?
I installed windows 8 without wiping. When im in windows 8 i backup everything i want then proceed to reset it to factory settings which it'll clean the c drive. Never had any problems with the activation. Oh i bought the online pro version which cost $39.99.
However the only problem i have is everytime it reboots my mouse will not work forcing me to restart again to get my mouse working. Otherwise its good.
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Forgotten to mention it was an upgrade from windows 7.
I also did make the downloaded W8 installation into iso and make it into usb installation via windows 7 usb tool and install from the usb on top of windows 8 for a clean installation and everything works well too.
If problem still persist you may try to install windows 7 and upgrade from there then while you're in windows 8 do a factory reset which doesn't require you to insert the cd or usb for the reset (+1 for that feature though). That's just me~
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I got windows 8 Pro from dreamspark and it came as an iso. I burned it to a dvd and formatted my hard drive before installing.
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Wtfhx, what does an upgrade even mean? Are we supposed to install win8 from the desktop of windows7? Or boot the PC from a CD and install from there? If it is the later, then how will it even know what is my operating system?
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soham_sss said:
Wtfhx, what does an upgrade even mean? Are we supposed to install win8 from the desktop of windows7? Or boot the PC from a CD and install from there? If it is the later, then how will it even know what is my operating system?
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I installed windows 8 from windows 7 desktop as the installation was downloaded into my c drive. However i also tried installing from an usb from a direct boot into the usb (im sure it'll work the same as CD). Upgrading can only means you must have an existing OS such as windows 7 and install windows 8 from the CD inside windows 7.
Regarding to your problem about the activation caused by not an upgrade, i would suggest you to install windows 7 without activating it and run the windows 8 installation from the CD inside windows 7. I have not encountered your problem before but to troubleshoot it you may have to go extra length with what i have suggested. (Doesn't mean it'll 100% work)
Other ways to troubleshoot if the above fail is to try the usb installation with Windows 7 USB Tool. Before you use it you must turn your windows 8 installation cd into ISO with freewares like ImgBurn.
Not sure if any of these will help you but if both the solutions above fail, you may need to contact Microsoft or the dealer you purchased your copy of windows 8 about it.
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Wait are you having problem with the installation or you're just asking is there any problem with the installation?
soham_sss said:
Wtfhx, what does an upgrade even mean? Are we supposed to install win8 from the desktop of windows7? Or boot the PC from a CD and install from there? If it is the later, then how will it even know what is my operating system?
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You may do either. The installation handles everything. At some people, it may request your Windows 7 key and other times it detects the installation automatically.
I am not having any problem. I read that if you install windows8 using a clean install Microsoft won't let you activate the product key.
Just a question, did you click install Windows just like you'd any other game?
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soham_sss said:
I am not having any problem. I read that if you install windows8 using a clean install Microsoft won't let you activate the product key.
Just a question, did you click install Windows just like you'd any other game?
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In that case, there is no problem whatsoever with my copy of installation downloaded from the Microsoft. Both installing from windows 7 desktop (Upgrading and yes it's like installing games) and usb booting installation (Considering it did not load my current OS first so this doesn't count as upgrading, i might be wrong), complete without the activation problem. Not sure about the physical copy but my guess is the result will still be the same. Others might have bought a bad copy of the installation disc, i don't know.
The best thing is, once you have windows 8 installed without any problem.. you do not need the installation files anymore. Reinstalling windows 8 can be done easily.
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In that case, there is no problem whatsoever with my copy of installation downloaded from the Microsoft. Both installing from windows 7 desktop (Upgrading and yes it's like installing games) and usb booting installation (Considering it did not load my current OS first so this doesn't count as upgrading, i might be wrong), complete without the activation problem. Not sure about the physical copy but my guess is the result will still be the same. Others might have bought a bad copy of the installation disc, i don't know.
The best thing is, once you have windows 8 installed without any problem.. you do not need the installation files anymore. Reinstalling windows 8 can be done easily.
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Have you read the article in the op ?
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I bought the $40 "upgrade" and did a full wipe clean install. Nothing to it.
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I bought the $40 "upgrade" and did a full wipe clean install. Nothing to it.
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I did almost the same thing. I downloaded it from Microsoft and chose keep nothing , it loaded and I started with a clean laptop. I did not burn an iso or download it to an USB drive, I used the download.
Before I loaded win8 I used double driver and copied all my drivers to a backup, just in case I had an issue, I also did a full backup of everything else. I'm really enjoying it, but there are still a few places I use secure wifi that don't recognize windows 8 as being a valid os, they also dont recognize the windows defender as being a valid antivirus software, but otherwise I've been impressed. I was going to purchase a new laptop with a touch screen but I don't have any reason to now.
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OK, to the above two guys, when you to activation settings in computer do you see windows8 is activated?
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i did an upgrade without getting anything over from win 7...
Just to preface, Windows had marked my system as not being genuine (I know this because Microsoft security essentials wouldn't allow me to install it). I updated on top of Windows 7 since didn't want to install all of my apps all over again. I download the update and installed it right from my hard drive as opposed to a usb or dvd, although I did make a backup copy of the windows 8 file just in case.
Everything is okay except it takes a while (roughly 15 minutes) for windows to recognize my Intel graphics chip right away. The screen will just be black after the Windows logo appears. Also, if you update directly from your hard drive, make sure you delete your temporary files because windows will keep the old OS and files. After clearing mine I freed up 32 GB!
*Update*
After installing windows 8 and enabling then installing the windows updates, my laptop boots up just fine now ( and mighty quick I add). As others have said, I don't believe windows cares if your version of windows 7 is genuine or not.
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Hi,
Thought I would share my experience:
I downloaded and installed the upgrade version. I was running Windows 7 Pro before.
After downloading the files, I wrote it to a disk and decided to do what I did for Win7, manual format and repartition my disks (I didnt trust the "Keep Nothing" option )
Unfortunately, I forgot I had a dynamic disk and my Win7 partition was booting off it - I formatted my C:\ and was met with a "Cannot create partition... / cannot install windows on dynamic disk"... it was a long painful process that took me most of the day to fix. Also, there is a bug with installing Win8 with multiple hard drives booting from disk or at least I had some trouble with it until I detached 2 of them for the install to progress.
After all that, the key wouldn't activate because it wasn't technically an upgrade... *face palm*
So, in went the Win7 disk, reinstalled and activated. After initial boot, I put in the Win8 CD and used the wizard and selected "Keep Nothing" ( At this point I couldn't care less)
All activated and now enjoying the system
Moral of the story:
- Stay away from dynamic disks on the boot partition, it'll warn you if you try - heed the warning!
- Multiple harddrives may cause issues with the install so you might need to disable them through bios or disconnect them from the mobo
- For me the Key only activated via an install, it wouldn't recognize it when I formatted C:\ through custom install.
- Did I mention? STAY AWAY FROM DYNAMIC DISKS!!!
soham_sss said:
OK, to the above two guys, when you to activation settings in computer do you see windows8 is activated?
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Mine shows it being activated and has a link for me to click on which shows my product key and shows current edition : Windows 8 Pro with Media Center. The activation date isn't available but that's the only thing unavailable.
Hope this helps
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OK, to the above two guys, when you to activation settings in computer do you see windows8 is activated?
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Mine activated first try no problem
It's only the box copies that are sold in retail stores that are upgrade-only packages. A few will only sell full retail versions of Windows 8. These versions are more likely a hundred bucks more than the upgrade version. The copy downloaded from the Microsoft Store are full Windows 8 Pro copies.
What? Are you sure??
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I upgraded my notebook from within 7 no problem. My desktop i bought the upgrade, and installed from a USB that the upgrade advisor program created. However i formatted the HD before installing and did a clean install and it never asked for any proof that i had windows 7 on my PC previously. Its fully activated and fine.
I have heard that in some countries it will even let you upgrade a pirate copy of 7 if the upgrade advisor program doesn't flag it.
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Hey guys,
Reviewed alot of the posts here, but can't find out what the status is with the native functionality of cell modem access on Win 7...
I just got Windows 7 Pro installed (it isn't the beta, or hacked, it's retail), Everything is working (touchscreen, aero, etc...) with the exception of the native cell modem internet sharing.
I do know there is a hack by using the USB tool to get it working, however I'm just curious if anyone has it working the proper way as intended by HTC?
I'm noticing there are no devices missing drivers in the device manager, the HTC control app works fine, and even can control the modem on the snapvue side of things...
But there is still no "virtual" network adapater inside of the Network adapters on the system...
Scratch that...
I'm a tool. My shift has been sitting for 6 months after not being used until today when I decided to upgrade...
Totally forgot the virtual adapter only shows when no other connections are present...
Everything is working now
Hi!
How did you get the TS to work?
I've been trying to get the touchscreen to work with the latest W7 but no soceess. I've followed the guide on XDA and all tips on XDA but no sucess.
Could you maybe write down how you did even if it was just a regular installation? I've reinstalled and all but the ts just won't work!
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Hi!
How did you get the TS to work?
I've been trying to get the touchscreen to work with the latest W7 but no soceess. I've followed the guide on XDA and all tips on XDA but no sucess.
Could you maybe write down how you did even if it was just a regular installation? I've reinstalled and all but the ts just won't work!
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To be honest, I was an idiot and had a horrible install... Here's what I did if you dare try..
1. Install all the drivers (NOT using compatibility mode and "Run as Admin")
Only a few things worked, it was horrible...
2. Re-installed ALL the drivers, using the list that HTC recomends. Keep in mind that the device manager will show some of the devices as not working, after you install all the drivers in Compatibility mode, along with "Run as admin". Go to the Device manager, and right click on all the problemtic devices and select "Uninstall".
3. Restart the computer, then Aero will start bluescreening and crashing. Boot into safemode (with networking). Go to the device manager and disable both Video card adapater shown.
4. restart and go to Intel's website and download the latest Chipset INF installer, and Video drivers for windows 7. Install the Chipset INI first, then video drivers...
5. At this point I can't remember but I thinnk the touchscreen didn't work. I just ran the Touchscreen installer one last time, and BANG it worked...
Sorry for my horrible instructions, it was a messy install, but everything is working for me now.
Thanks!
I't looks similar to how i've been fooling around with my shift.
Well, at least it's gratifying to know that i may get it to work if keep messing with it
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Hey guys,
Reviewed alot of the posts here, but can't find out what the status is with the native functionality of cell modem access on Win 7...
I just got Windows 7 Pro installed (it isn't the beta, or hacked, it's retail), Everything is working (touchscreen, aero, etc...) with the exception of the native cell modem internet sharing.
I do know there is a hack by using the USB tool to get it working, however I'm just curious if anyone has it working the proper way as intended by HTC?
I'm noticing there are no devices missing drivers in the device manager, the HTC control app works fine, and even can control the modem on the snapvue side of things...
But there is still no "virtual" network adapater inside of the Network adapters on the system...
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Hi just have a quick question: When you upgraded your vista to Win 7, do you used the upgraded disk or start from the OEM win 7?
I actually didn't upgrade.
I used a Open Business Volume disc I have that was issued to my company. I guess it's the same thing as a retail copy.
I did a fresh install.
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I actually didn't upgrade.
I used a Open Business Volume disc I have that was issued to my company. I guess it's the same thing as a retail copy.
I did a fresh install.
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Thanks! It is OEM Disk. And one more think are you install the Win 7 pro or the ultimate? Thanks again. I really appreciate your help.
I could be wrong, but I think I did Win 7 Pro
Thanks again...I will try to install win7 pro on mine. I think 7 ultimate for Shift is too much coz the processor itself is only 800Mhz.
before i buy the key and install windows 8, i want to know if the drivers that came with the PC will get transferred to windows 8 or am i going to have to re install them again? i had driver issues with a clean install with the dev, release preview and rtm. they didnt install and i had to stick with the default windows ones which nerfs my PC to the max. i have a Dell Inspiron One 2305 with the AMD drivers and stuff. so i want to know if all the drivers will be transfered over before i buy windows 8 and upgrade it.
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before i buy the key and install windows 8, i want to know if the drivers that came with the PC will get transferred to windows 8 or am i going to have to re install them again? i had driver issues with a clean install with the dev, release preview and rtm. they didnt install and i had to stick with the default windows ones which nerfs my PC to the max. i have a Dell Inspiron One 2305 with the AMD drivers and stuff. so i want to know if all the drivers will be transfered over before i buy windows 8 and upgrade it.
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The rtm build is exactly the same as the final version that you'll be buying so it's possible that you'll have problems, but if the Dell came with Windows 7 you shouldn't have trouble with Drivers apart for certain Printers, which I've found out today.
As when I came to install my Canon Pixima MP140 Windows insists that the Windows 8 driver downloaded from Canon isn't compatible with Windows 8.
Roland
How long ago did you do the rtm install? Though you may need new drivers its worth a note that amd normally update there drivers monthly. When RTM came out for instance it was a real pain to get catalyst to install and you had to install the driver with device manager then install catalyst after etc but now they have full windows 8 support.
I don't have the link to hand but ms do have a tool that you can use that will check your system for compatibility.
And they did quite a large update about 2 weeks ago that addressed driver compatibility issues I cant say if this will address your specific issues but I know its made a huge diff to some.
I installed it when it came out and I still have a partition with windows 8 for testing purposes. I can't find the drivers for it for some reason though, only the windows 7 64 bit drivers are shown in the list and not win8 that's what is keeping me from upgrading
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i installed windows 8 and everything from windows 7 got transferd to windows 8 including drivers,apps,..ext
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before u start u have this upgrade assistant. he will tell u about drivers. what will go what wont and what u will need to re install.
it said i have to reinstall them but the thing is that i looked for the windows 8 drivers and i found nothing for my device, it just gives me drivers for newer cards and old win 7 ones
when you upgrade to windows 8 it will ask you if you want to keep everything including drivers,apps,ext.
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So I caused lots of bugs by messing around with the os and drivers, and I would like to wipe my HDD clean and start over. Is it possible to format the drive and install Windows with the same serial? Will I run into problems with activation? I have never done this before because with Windows 7 I used my factory recovery disk, and I used pirated copies of xp/2000 on my old computer
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So I caused lots of bugs by messing around with the os and drivers, and I would like to wipe my HDD clean and start over. Is it possible to format the drive and install Windows with the same serial? Will I run into problems with activation? I have never done this before because with Windows 7 I used my factory recovery disk, and I used pirated copies of xp/2000 on my old computer
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If you go to the PC settings in the start screen. I has an options for "refreshing windows" and for "reformatting windows". I believe that if you go through it this way, you should be fine. Let me know what you find out.
Well I actually installed twice myself. Was an accident, making breakfast while it installed off a USB thumb drive. It rebooted while I was away, and saw no hint that it had, started answering questions and clicked one too many before I realized it had started over and was already installed. So I had it validate the key twice.
Should be good either way, the key OEM or retail will have the same hash value for the servers so won't flag as a new install.
Previous poster has a point, under more settings from the not metro interface, sorry not at my win 8 box so can't get too detailed, you can tell it to refresh. Should bring it back to the fresh off the disk state.
I became impatient and reinstalled. Everything works fine, but how can I get my metro apps to sync? Do I have to manually install them again?
Timed setup, on my core i7 620m/500gb 7200rpm hdd it took 12:51 from hitting the install button to rebooting to initial setup (account etc.). After completing this in a reasonable amount of time, the computer was ready to use by 17:58. Fastest windows install ever.
Hi all, I bought windows 8 online today (download) and I tried installing it. Everything seems to work alright but then when it finally finished installing, I got the Windows 8 style bluescreen, a reboot, then it rolled back to Windows 7 telling me it couldn't install.
I'm trying to Install with keeping all my files/data but it happened a second time. Any advice? What am I doing wrong?
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Hi all, I bought windows 8 online today (download) and I tried installing it. Everything seems to work alright but then when it finally finished installing, I got the Windows 8 style bluescreen, a reboot, then it rolled back to Windows 7 telling me it couldn't install.
I'm trying to Install with keeping all my files/data but it happened a second time. Any advice? What am I doing wrong?
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Do you have any error codes when this happens. I had numerous problems upgrading pc's and eventually got all of them worked out. How far through the process did you make it???
I had this same problem with an Asus p8z68 motherboard. The fix was to install the windows 8 drivers for the mb while in w7 before running the W8 installation.
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I had this same problem with an Asus p8z68 motherboard. The fix was to install the windows 8 drivers for the mb while in w7 before running the W8 installation.
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The Mb? What? and where do I find the windows 8 drivers? Thanks.
I had the same problem. I then made an ISO file and did a clean install. Worked properly then. Just painful have to reinstall all programs.
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I had the same problem. I then made an ISO file and did a clean install. Worked properly then. Just painful have to reinstall all programs.
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Don't want to clean install though Q_Q All my music...too much pain. Do you think making a partition for it would fix my problems?
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The Mb? What? and where do I find the windows 8 drivers? Thanks.
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If your computer is an off the shelf model built by one of the major manufacturers I would get the drivers from them. They may even have the steps that you would need to do to get your machine ready for Windows 8.
If you or someone else built the computer from scratch go to the manufacturer of the motherboard and get the drivers from them for your specific motherboard. Hopefully they have developed the drivers for Windows 8 by now.
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If your computer is an off the shelf model built by one of the major manufacturers I would get the drivers from them. They may even have the steps that you would need to do to get your machine ready for Windows 8.
If you or someone else built the computer from scratch go to the manufacturer of the motherboard and get the drivers from them for your specific motherboard. Hopefully they have developed the drivers for Windows 8 by now.
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I can't find it I even typed in my product number into the hp website and it couldn't find my product.
I have a Hp Pavillion
Model: dv6-3154ee
Product: XW117EA#ABV
Can't find the drivers for windows 8 tho ._.
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Don't want to clean install though Q_Q All my music...too much pain. Do you think making a partition for it would fix my problems?
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I partitioned my hard drive to clean install and I have no problems. Also if you have data you don't want to lose shouldn't you get like an external or online backup?
HP website: "If you purchased your computer prior to October 1st , 2011, HP has not tested or developed drivers for your model computer. Therefore an upgrade of your computer may be difficult or impossible."
Got this computer in April 2011 Guess I can't get the drivers. Would a full wipe update work for sure?
My computer works perfectly fine without lenovo drivers. Yours should at least be functional without hp ones (unless you have an amd graphics card maybe).
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Nvm, I fixed it I used some windows update readiness checker and uninstalled my avg antivirus. After that, when I installed, it finally asked for my product key and I'm enjoying Windows 8 atm. I can't believe people are complaining about this, it's perfect even for laptops.
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I partitioned my hard drive to clean install and I have no problems. Also if you have data you don't want to lose shouldn't you get like an external or online backup?
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I am using an HP dv6 and dual booted Windows 8 and 7.. So that I could still have all my programs in windows 7 and wait till HP has all the drivers for windows8.. I suggest you to dual boot you pc... Windows8 has its on boot manager.. So dual booting wont be a problem... I installed windows8 on a logical drive with 50gb partition....
my experiance
I got windows 8 from the windowsupgradeoffer.com for 699 INR
my pc is hp dv6
I got the iso file and made a bootable usb all from the windows upgrade assistant
I got error when I tried to upgrade from win 7 to 8 some error was there always so I restarted my pc to boot from the usb and installed in the same partition as the windows 7 was and it installed smoothly no problem there and after that I manually migrated my stuff from 7 to 8 and delete the windows.old folder
its upto you can dual boot also....
Do an upgrade but click on dont keep anything.it will install sucessfully.Then after installation restore data frm windows.old folder. Thassit ....
Trust me.ive had this problem...
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I upgraded my asus laptop to windows 8, and the d drive that had a stock backup of windows 7 got wiped somewhow..... so I really want to go back to windows7. I dont have a disc but i do have the windows 7 product key on my laptop... I cant dual boot, i cant connect phones to qpst... my work for school cant be done on windows 8..... I NEED windows 7 back... how can i do this?
A) Given that Win8 is compatible with all software and damn near all drivers that Win7 was (a few legacy driver models, like the ability to use XP video drivers, were deprecated), I doubt you actually can't use Win8 instead.*
B) You need Windows installation media to install Windows. I would hope this would be self-explanatory. It usually comes on a DVD (in a "box", or with your PC) or in a DVD image (giant .ISO file). However, your PC may have a "recovery volume" (a reserved chunk of the hard drive) containing the install image.
* You may need to do one or both of the following to get legacy software to work:
1) Enable the legacy .NET framework versions. Start -> type "features" -> look under Settings -> Turn Windows features on or off -> .NET Framework 3.5.
1.1) If you need .NET 1.1, you'll have to download and install that separately, I think, although at this point that version is like 10 years old.
2) Run programs in Compatibility Mode. For programs designed to run under XP, this includes running them as Admin. Right-click the program (in Windows Explorer; you can get there by right-clicking the tile in Start and selecting Open File Location), go to Properties -> Compatibility. Choose the compatibility option(s) most suitable to your needs.
.net frameworks checked....
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If it's a driver issue you're having, which it most likely is because most driver install tools aren't ready for Win8 yet, you'll need to extract the relevant driver from the executable (or find one extracted online somewhere) and install it using the windows device manager.
If you can't find a solution to the problem, burn the relevant Win7 ISO file to your license key, and reinstall Windows 7 from that until devices become more compatible.
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If it's a driver issue you're having, which it most likely is because most driver install tools aren't ready for Win8 yet, you'll need to extract the relevant driver from the executable (or find one extracted online somewhere) and install it using the windows device manager.
If you can't find a solution to the problem, burn the relevant Win7 ISO file to your license key, and reinstall Windows 7 from that until devices become more compatible.
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Thats the route im going...
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Then im going to try to partition hdd so i can also install an ubuntu iso
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Could be he's. Used to win 7 ,doesn't want to relearn 8 doesnt want to re install drivers and still nothing works, I'm not harping against 8. ,just think its really not. A desktop OS,works great as a phone and a tablet,useless as a desktop
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I got everything situated... Windows 8 is just better with a touch screen and i miss my windows 7 themes and stuff. Now only way to boot windows is thru bios boot override... Or else grub only lets me boot ubuntu.... A little annoying but tolerable
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You can download one of these upgrade isos from Digital River/Microsoft and then install using your key. Make sure you download the appropriate version Pro, Home, etc, it should say next to your key what it is and chances are your computer can run x64 unless its a netbook.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-from-digital-river/
I've used these isos with OEM Windows 7 keys and it activates just fine and is perfectly legal since its your licensed key and the ISOs I linked to are unmodified from Microsoft and require a key to work.
Yep. Got an iso on a disc and installed then had to install all the drivers
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