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G1 + Cyanogen 4.2.8 + att = not working

Hi folks,
I bought a Cingular GoPhone cellphone and i want to use the line on my G1. The problem is that the G1 doesn't register the sim card on att's network. The crappy phone works fine though.
When going to "Wireless Controls > Mobile Networks > Network operators > Search networks" i am getting att's network listed, so i guess the phone is able to scan for networks. Since my sim card is an att's, the phone should be able to register the sim card to At&t network, but i'm getting "Your sim card does not allow a connection to this network" error. Same error when trying the "Select Automatically" option.
I've been google'ing but could't find a solution, even though there is a lot of threads going back and forth.
Here is my configuration info:
Phone: T-Mobile G1 ( Dream PVT 32B DREA10000), Unlocked, Rooted.
Sim Card: AT&T (Cingular), 1 week old.
Firmware: CyanogenMod 4.2.8
Build Number: DRC83
Radio: 2.22.18.26I
HBoot: 1.33.2005
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance

Have you already forgotten that G1 is locked to Tmo?
You need the unlock code for it to be used on other carriers.
Plus G1 will only beable to use 2G on att.
Cyan has a new version out now.

The phone is unlocked. I have been using it with south american carriers without any problems.
I don't need 3g right now. ( gophone line )

robertoestivill said:
The phone is unlocked. I have been using it with south american carriers without any problems.
I don't need 3g right now. ( gophone line )
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You should have said that
Try using the newer cyan thats out.
But wipe
flash the base rom
then flash the cyan on top

Ace42 said:
You should have said that
Try using the newer cyan thats out.
But wipe
flash the base rom
then flash the cyan on top
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Wiped, flashed with ( http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Latest_version#Defanged_DRC83 ), and then flashed newest Cyanogen ( 4.2.11.1 ).
Still no luck.
Getting the same exact error while registering the sim card.
Thanks

robertoestivill said:
Wiped, flashed with ( http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Latest_version#Defanged_DRC83 ), and then flashed newest Cyanogen ( 4.2.11.1 ).
Still no luck.
Getting the same exact error while registering the sim card.
Thanks
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Try skipping the sign-in.Turn your phone off then put the sim in.Also change the Apn settings and change provider to att in settings.

Ace42 said:
Try skipping the sign-in.Turn your phone off then put the sim in.Also change the Apn settings and change provider to att in settings.
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Same error while trying to select the provider: "Your sim card does not allow a connection to this network".
I manually added att's apn settings, but after i saved it, it doesn't get listed at all, it dissapears.
Any clue on what can be wrong here?
Thanks

APN
try adding att apn into the phone then try again

clevetbs said:
try adding att apn into the phone then try again
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i have an unlocked g1 with att and i had no network problems with cyanogens roms.

Try checking the "2G only" box in data settings. It might be tring to sign into AT&T's 3G voice network, which IIRC, is not a supported feature on GoPhone accounts.

clevetbs said:
try adding att apn into the phone then try again
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After creating the att apn, the apn doesn't get listed on the apn list and it's not available. I did save it, but the list appears empty.
This is the att's apn settings i found online:
Name: att
APN: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: cingular1
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
tyweezy can you please compare it with yours?
Try checking the "2G only" box in data settings.
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I tried, didn't work, probably because i couldn't add the apn.

robertoestivill said:
After creating the att apn, the apn doesn't get listed on the apn list and it's not available. I did save it, but the list appears empty.
This is the att's apn settings i found online:
Name: att
APN: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: cingular1
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
tyweezy can you please compare it with yours?
I tried, didn't work, probably because i couldn't add the apn.
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Do you know what spectrum or frequencies your phone runs at? Sometimes they don't include the international spectrum's (or american)if the phone is imported. Nokia has a few phones that needed a North American version they usually have the NAM title next to there name to show they support the American spectrums.

psychoace said:
Do you know what spectrum or frequencies your phone runs at? Sometimes they don't include the international spectrum's (or american)if the phone is imported. Nokia has a few phones that needed a North American version they usually have the NAM title next to there name to show they support the American spectrums.
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I don't know. I bought the phone in the US, though. Guess it should work.
I remember playing around with SPL and radio images while trying a custom rom with rosie UI, but it looks that the versions posted in the first message should work just fine.

i had att for while and it worked as soon as i unlocked my phone went to tmo because i needed 3g but still use att sim every now and then with no problems and i think ive used every rom on xda and alldroid

phantom574 said:
i had att for while and it worked as soon as i unlocked my phone went to tmo because i needed 3g but still use att sim every now and then with no problems and i think ive used every rom on xda and alldroid
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Yeah but he's saying his phone is from South America. I'm sure yours wasn't

The phone is from the US. I bought it on ebay, shipped and used in south america.
I just came up with something that actually match all the sympthoms.
Maybe this is happening because the phone IMEI be banned from att's network.
Is there any way i can find out if the phone is reported as stolen or something like that ?

What APN is the stock one selected?

I was playing around with the free tethering via using a new APN and totally forgot which one of the preloaded locked ones should be chosen if not using it. Is it:
AT&T US
wap.cingluar
or
AT&T US HSDPA
phone
thanks

dperls said:
I was playing around with the free tethering via using a new APN and totally forgot which one of the preloaded locked ones should be chosen if not using it. Is it:
AT&T US
wap.cingluar
or
AT&T US HSDPA
phone
thanks
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AT&T US HSDPA out of the box on my phone.

Mine was set to at&t US out of the box, but I was doing a shared upgrade, so I was using my old sim. Anyone else want to chime in?

just set a new custom one that was posted here for unlimited data

clubtech said:
AT&T US HSDPA out of the box on my phone.
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this is correct

Would someone mind posting their APN Settings for US HSDPA please? Almost all the settings are blank on mine except for name: AT&T US HSPDA, APN: phone, MCC:310, MMNC: 410, and APN Type: default,supl,agps,fota,dun

edgeicator said:
Would someone mind posting their APN Settings for US HSDPA please? Almost all the settings are blank on mine except for name: AT&T US HSPDA, APN: phone, MCC:310, MMNC: 410, and APN Type: default,supl,agps,fota,dun
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Those are the same settings I have for mine....

edgeicator said:
Would someone mind posting their APN Settings for US HSDPA please? Almost all the settings are blank on mine except for name: AT&T US HSPDA, APN: phone, MCC:310, MMNC: 410, and APN Type: default,supl,agps,fota,dun
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Mine is also mostly blank, is it because I used my old 3g sim, or maybe these settings only work if you pay for the tethering option?
When I choose AT&T US HSPDA I don't have internet access at all.

James62370 said:
Mine is also mostly blank, is it because I used my old 3g sim, or maybe these settings only work if you pay for the tethering option?
When I choose AT&T US HSPDA I don't have internet access at all.
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I'm using that APN with the same settings and my 3G sim out of my 3GS with no issues. You may need to validate the data plan you have with AT&T. Since I was on the Enterprise iPhone Unlimited plan, they moved me to the Smartphone Data Unlimited 4G Plan with 200 SMS. Not sure what plan you're on, but maybe that has something to do with it.....

3g Data Loss (Not signal loss)

So i noticed since installing custom rom, that my 3g data no longer works, the signal is fine, i can make/receive calls but as for data, market/internet anything requiring a connection it just does not work unless connected to a wifi network, and before you ask! yes i was able to do it before from stock so its not a service provider plan issue lol.

First, is the mobile data on the phone itself turned on? I know from using a few different rom they have the ability to turn off just mobile data.
Other than that, I know verizon has had some problems which only required an ESN swap (changing the phone connected to your account to another phone, then back to your current phone is the process to do this), but I also see from your profile that you are on Telus, so I merely offer these two options in hopes that one may help.

well i haven't checked that actually, lol so i will, but i'm on a telus network if i could make a sig lol id have that info sorry haha. Oh yea it is displayed there haha my bad.

k just checked, am i in the right place (just to make sure) Settings -> wireless and network -> mobile network ->3g Packet Data ON
and if so, still no luck.

How do i do this ESN swap?

Yeah that's the correct information, if you haven't done it already, I would at least try toggling it off then back on and see if that fixes it.
After that, as I said before, I don't know much about the Telus Fascinate but I'm sure that there are a few developers or people experienced with Telus Fascinate lurking around the forums that may be able to help. Sorry I couldn't help you more.

That's Okay, lol the ESN swap is it difficult? maybe its the same for telus as verizon..

for verizon a person could log into their online account and switch to an older phone, then switch back. I personally had to take my phone to Best Buy and they could do the ESN swap for me there.

Again not sure on telus......but you can change the esn by a number up or down and not use another phone. I have completed this process several times when I have lost 3g. You will force repartion of data.
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It sounds like your having the same problem iv been having. If your 3G icon is disappearing a dmu reset should fix your problem.the esn swap is a way of resetting your dmu but I find it easier to just call into tech support and tell them to do it. If they refuse make them or hang up and call again. Once you get some one who will do it it takes 2min.
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LOL wait... ESN swap is for CDMA phones. Telus is GSM.
OP, you didn't flash a Verizon Fascinate ROM onto your Telus model, did you? If so, you need to do a full stock Odin including GSM modem.

Hence not on sure on telus. Obviously esn is of no help with gsm. Thanks for the info.
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Yes thanks for the info, definitely good to start learning about telus since it's going to show up more and more on these forums
Swype'd from my CM7 Fascinate

i dont think so otherwise this TELUS ONLY guide should be edited to some sort lol http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923712

s44 said:
LOL wait... ESN swap is for CDMA phones. Telus is GSM.
OP, you didn't flash a Verizon Fascinate ROM onto your Telus model, did you? If so, you need to do a full stock Odin including GSM modem.
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oh fascinate verizon rom no def not, its a vibrant using that guide.

I had a lot of problems with my 3 g going away. There wasn't even a 1x just bars. I was frustrated to the point of getting a different phone. I had verizon put a different phone on my account then out my samsung back on and it fixed it. Hopes this helps.
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i could just tell them my data isn't working and see what they do i just wanna make sure that nothing they do will brick my phone...lol

loki9 said:
oh fascinate verizon rom no def not, its a vibrant using that guide.
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I'm guessing it's an APN issue. Make sure you have a Telus APN in there.

s44 said:
I'm guessing it's an APN issue. Make sure you have a Telus APN in there.
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LOL i just came to say i solved my problem and thats what it was lol, thanks anyway now i have 1 issue left, my market and internet data works now without wifi thanks to the apn realized it wasn't there. Now i cant send/receive picture msgs...is this a rom defect? or..cuz i know some roms have bugs...i guess that would prob be a question for the rom dev hmm..well this has been solved anyway. Im not sure if its posted on these forums but if it isnt for future ref. Heres the default APN for Telus Canada.
Name: TELUS SP
APN: sp.telus.com
Proxy: 74.49.0.18
Port: 80
Username: <Not set>
Password: <Not set
Server: <Not set>
MMSC: http://aliasredirect.net/proxy/mmsc
MMS Proxy: 74.49.0.18
MMS Port: 80
MMS Protocol: WAP 2.0
MCC: 302
MNC: 220
APN type: default,mms

I had the infamous 3g issue with an interesting side note...
The esn swap worked perfectly, however, when I used *228 with option 2 (update roaming capabilities) the next day, my 3g started dropping again. Did another esn swap, and its been fine now for 4 days. I did use the *228 option 1 both times and nothing changed... only when I used option 2 the first time did my 3g start dropping again.
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Best Buy Sale 9.99

Moto E LTE on sale BestBuy 9.99
enjoy!

wogeboy said:
Moto E LTE on sale BestBuy 9.99
enjoy!
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Is this smartphone root-able to use with any 3-rd party cellphone provider?

2habibie said:
Is this smartphone root-able to use with any 3-rd party cellphone provider?
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If it's Verizon, then no.

wogeboy said:
Moto E LTE on sale BestBuy 9.99
enjoy!
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fendaris said:
If it's Verizon, then no.
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Thank you.

2habibie said:
Thank you.
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Not rootable- but you don't need root to use this phone with other gsm providers. See other threads.

and in my coutry its still for over 100$ without 5.1 update
motorola is realy retarded

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iks8 said:
and in my coutry its still for over 100$ without 5.1 update
motorola is realy retarded
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I thought I read somewhere they're pretty much abandoning it.

iks8 said:
And in my coutry it's still for over 100$ without 5.1 update
Motorola is really retarded
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This was part of a Black Friday deal, therefore it has nothing to do with the pricing in other countries. Amazon even had a 50" TV for $149 and there were many other deals...

yea, it's the bestbuy black friday $9.99 deal. It's even cheaper than usb or mp3 player. BEST DEAL
You can use it as backup phone or mp3 player.

Any way to get rid of Verizon activation that pops up every reboot?

This is for certain type of Best Buy customers.. requires some type of special account i heard.

I'm trying to bypass now. Wish me luck (getting on a regular Verizon account)

I managed to buy a couple of these for the Family plan on T-Mobile. I should receive them in a few days, so I'm doing my research now I've read the thread on switching the phone to GSM. Here's the plan so far. Any feedback is welcome:
- Put in Tmo sim and microSD
- Switch to GSM
- Subscribe to TMo Family plan (over internet or call in?)
- After activation, turn off update to 5.1 (do I need band 12 in southern CA? If not, any problems with updating to 5.1 ota?)
- Remove Verizon apps
Did I miss anything?

saidiadude said:
I managed to buy a couple of these for the Family plan on T-Mobile. I should receive them in a few days, so I'm doing my research now I've read the thread on switching the phone to GSM. Here's the plan so far. Any feedback is welcome:
- Put in Tmo sim and microSD
- Switch to GSM
- Subscribe to TMo Family plan (over internet or call in?)
- After activation, turn off update to 5.1 (do I need band 12 in southern CA? If not, any problems with updating to 5.1 ota?)
- Remove Verizon apps
Did I miss anything?
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I recently switched two of these over to T-Mobile's family plan, and it isn't as easy as you might expect, although still very manageable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/how-to-verizon-moto-e-2015-gsm-network-t3098953
This thread was incredibly useful, the green instructions are what you'll likely need to follow. Make sure you have adb on your computer beforehand. Once you finish with that process, you will need to enter in your T-Mobile APN.
Name: T-Mobile
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy: <Leave in Blank>
Port: <Leave in Blank>
Username: <Leave in Blank>
Password: <Leave in Blank>
Server: <Leave in Blank>
MMSC: mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: <Leave in Blank>
MMS port: <Leave in Blank>
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
Authentication type: <Leave in Blank>
APN type: default,supl,mms
APN Protocol: IPv6 (Not sure if you need to change this, but I did)
APN roaming Protocol: IPv4
Bearer: Unspecified
MVNO type: None
MVNO value: Not set
After this, I ran into an issue with the network connection flickering. I'd have 4G LTE for a second, then no signal, back and forth. To solve this, I followed these instructions:
thisisthedroid said:
I'll elaborate and include what to do to get it to work with T-mobile mvno:
Download the Network app from the store.
Tap the square button on the bottom right of the phone to bring up all recent apps, and clear away everything.
Go to settings -> more -> cellular networks. Notice "Preferred network type" is on lte/cdma. Leave this screen alone.
Tap the circle button at the bottom of the phone to get to the home page.
Open the Network app.
Near the bottom you can "Set preferred network type." It'll be set on lte/cdma.
Below that, there's "turn off radio".
Turn off the radio, and then change the preferred network type to lte/gsm.
Tap the square button to bring up the recent apps, and tap the "cellular networks" screen that you were on earlier.
See if "Preferred network type" has changed to "global". If it has, then the following steps will work. If it hasn't, then skip to the bottom.
Tap the square button and go back to the Network app. Turn on the radio.
Quickly tap the square button and go back to the cellular networks screen.
When "4G LTE" shows up in the notification area, quickly tap "global" and you'll have the choice of 4G, 3G, 2G. Hurry and tap 4G before "4G LTE" disappears.
Now you've got 4GLte, and you'll just need to add an apn as well as select your network operator.
4G still works for me after a reboot. I'm on Consumer Cellular (T-mobile mvno), if it matters. I'm sending/receiving texts and calls, and data works.
If it doesn't say "global", then go back to the Network app, pick some other preferred network type, like lte/gsm/cdma, and try this again.
To get "global," you'll need some combination of turning the radio on and off, and picking lte/gsm or lte/gsm/cdma.
Maybe turn off the radio, pick lte/gsm, turn on the radio, THEN "global" shows up. I don't remember exactly.
Maybe pick a random preferred network, turn the radio on and off, and then go back and pick lte/gsm and look for "global".
But I do remember doing this process randomly dozens of times and whenever "cellular networks" said "lte/cdma" there never was a choice of 4g, 3g, 2g.
However, three times I managed to get "global" to show up, and each time I tapped on it the popup gave me the three "G" choices.
The third time I got "global" to show up, I managed to tap 4G fast enough, and it's been smooth sailing ever since.
One minor annoyance now though: whenever I restart the phone, I get a notification that the sim is not a Verizon one.
Thanks, lostnyc! Good luck everybody!
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This took a little while to work, but ended up fixing the issue. You might have to fiddle with networks a good deal, but it will eventually work.
Or maybe you can bypass most of the challenge I had here and get lucky. Let me know if you need any help, I'd love give any assistance I can.

Thanks for the quick reply Mouse_exe. Did you upgrade to 5.1? Any issues with the upgrade, specifically related to using band 12?

xpmule said:
This is for certain type of Best Buy customers.. requires some type of special account i heard.
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That was during the early access or whatever BB calls it. I don't have their membership & was able to buy 2 of these.

saidiadude said:
Thanks for the quick reply Mouse_exe. Did you upgrade to 5.1? Any issues with the upgrade, specifically related to using band 12?
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I believe the device comes with 5.1 already, at least both of mine did.
The main issues were just connection based, but those were fixed with the method I mentioned. The one device didn't update the play store, so it was crashing. I just downloaded an updated version from a Google search to fix that.
The device has bands 2 and 4, no band 12. Works well overall, but you're not going to be getting the reception of band 12. :/ Still though, great phone for 10 bucks.
EDIT: Bands 2 and 4 are very common, you shouldn't need band 12 in the phone to get signal.

You don't need any special account, just buy it instore or online on blackfriday.

Bought 3, using on on T-Mobile and it works fine. Also managed to swap in a post-paid Verizon SIM into one of them and it works fine.
NOTE: REMOVE VERIZON PREPAID SIM BEFORE YOU EVEN POWER IT ON

<<One minor annoyance now though: whenever I restart the phone, I get a notification that the sim is not a Verizon one.
Thanks, lostnyc! Good luck everybody!>>
Not sure if this helps , but saw this in another thread/post:
Originally Posted by inneyeseakay
Obviously can't use TIBU to disable apps because we don't have root... HOWEVER, I found that the debloater.exe works wonders for disabling apps (disable com.motorola.setupwizard.xxxxx to get rid of SIM NOT FROM VERIZON warning)
UPDATE!!!
DISABLED vzwAPNpermissions.apk & vzwAPNservice.apk and was able to change sims without having to redo the settings in ADB!!
Also, the phone automatically found my APN settings on different SIM cards after doing this!!

Verizon Moto G4 Play XT1609 - Total Wireless APN Settings

Hello folks,
Data wasn't working for Total Wireless on my Verizon Moto G4 Play XT1609. APN settings are missing on the phone, so you'll need the app below to add the proper APN settings on your phone. After a couple days of searching on the net, I couldn't find anything that worked, so here's what I did that finally worked for me.
Download Change APN from the Google Play Store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.appando.app.changeApn&hl=en
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Open Change APN app and tap the + sign to add your APN settings for Total Wireless.
Fix your MMS picture messaging and data internet problems with the APN settings listed below.
APN Name: Total Wireless
APN: vzwinternet
Proxy:
Port:
Username:
Password:
Server:
MMSC: http://mms.vtext.com/servlets/mms
MMS Proxy:
MMS Port:
MCC: 311
MNC: 480
Authentication Type:
APN Type: default,dun,supl
APN Protocol:
APN Roaming Protocol: IPv4/IPv6
Bearer: GPRS, eHRPD, HSUPA, HSPAP, HSDPA, HSPA, LTE, UMTS, EDGE
MVNO Type None

How did you make this work when the 1609 doesn't accept EDGE or HSPAP?

mkollersms said:
How did you make this work when the 1609 doesn't accept EDGE or HSPAP?
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I didn't do anything...
1. I unlocked the phone (on ebay)
2. I used a sim from a TW phone
3. I used Change APN app to add apn settings
4. Restarted the phone and all was good.

mkollersms said:
How did you make this work when the 1609 doesn't accept EDGE or HSPAP?
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Total wireless is a Verizon mvno not GSM.
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pegb856 said:
Total wireless is a Verizon mvno not GSM.
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I'm aware, but EDGE and HSPAP are strictly GSM. What I'm asking is how those settings even worked, especially when so many units are suffering from the APN crash inherent to all ROMs right now.

mkollersms said:
I'm aware, but EDGE and HSPAP are strictly GSM. What I'm asking is how those settings even worked, especially when so many units are suffering from the APN crash inherent to all ROMs right now.
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I'm specifically speaking about the Verizon Moto G4 Play XT1609 version phone. I ported my sister over from H2O to Total Wireless. I used a TW sim to activate to a TW 4G phone. I then took that sim and popped it into the Moto G4 Play. My sister reported that data wasn't working, so I installed Change APN app from Google Play store..
I added the TW apn settings from above into the Change APN app, saved it, restarted the phone and all was good. Obviously you're not going to have data & voice work simultaneously, but you can use Hangouts Dialer to get around that if needed. I hope that clears up any confusion.

mkollersms said:
I'm aware, but EDGE and HSPAP are strictly GSM. What I'm asking is how those settings even worked, especially when so many units are suffering from the APN crash inherent to all ROMs right now.
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He's using the Verizon Prepaid Moto G4 Play, it is a CDMA /LTE device. No EDGE or HSPA. I hope this clarifies his use of a Verizon G4 Play on a VZW mvno.

pegb856 said:
He's using the Verizon Prepaid Moto G4 Play, it is a CDMA /LTE device. No EDGE or HSPA. I hope this clarifies his use of a Verizon G4 Play on a VZW mvno.
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No, it does not. Look at the original post. The OP put GSM settings in an APN for a CDMA device. Please stop patronizing me and explain how in the hell that works, when we have not one, but FOUR threads where people cannot get Verizon APNs to work.

mkollersms said:
No, it does not. Look at the original post. The OP put GSM settings in an APN for a CDMA device. Please stop patronizing me and explain how in the hell that works, when we have not one, but FOUR threads where people cannot get Verizon APNs to work.
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My apologies, I guess I misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking how he got a GSM phone to work with Total wireless.

Phenom727 said:
I didn't do anything...
1. I unlocked the phone (on ebay)
2. I used a sim from a TW phone
3. I used Change APN app to add apn settings
4. Restarted the phone and all was good.
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So you would recomend buying the unlock code before doing any of this? Also, did you have the G4 Play activated on Verizon Prepaid before you did all this?

mkollersms said:
No, it does not. Look at the original post. The OP put GSM settings in an APN for a CDMA device. Please stop patronizing me and explain how in the hell that works, when we have not one, but FOUR threads where people cannot get Verizon APNs to work.
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I'm not understanding what you're trying to say. The apn settings are for Total Wireless, a Verizon MVNO. I'm not or was not suggesting the phone would work for GSM networks. The Change APN app only allows you to edit/add apn settings, and those are the apn settings I found and used for Total Wireless.

mrtnrz8 said:
So you would recomend buying the unlock code before doing any of this? Also, did you have the G4 Play activated on Verizon Prepaid before you did all this?
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Yes, unlock the phone first. I did not activate the phone at all with Verizon, but I did use an active TW sim card. Be sure not to turn the phone on with the Verizon Prepaid sim before getting the phone unlocked.

Phenom727 said:
Yes, unlock the phone first. I did not activate the phone at all with Verizon, but I did use an active TW sim card. Be sure not to turn the phone on with the Verizon Prepaid sim before getting the phone unlocked.
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Too late, already activated. Do you think there may be problems trying to get the phone to work with TW? I ran the IMEI number through their website and it said the phone is compatible.

mrtnrz8 said:
Too late, already activated. Do you think there may be problems trying to get the phone to work with TW? I ran the IMEI number through their website and it said the phone is compatible.
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No, you shouldn't have any trouble with activating it on TW, but you still might need to unlock it, which only costs $2 or less on eBay. Good luck!

Phenom727 said:
I'm not understanding what you're trying to say. The apn settings are for Total Wireless, a Verizon MVNO. I'm not or was not suggesting the phone would work for GSM networks. The Change APN app only allows you to edit/add apn settings, and those are the apn settings I found and used for Total Wireless.
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There are multiple problems with what you are saying. First, Total Wireless is a subsidiary of America Movil, same as Tracfone, StraightTalk, Net10, TelCel and Family Mobile. Considering I just had to fight with Tracfone to get a VZW APN (on a different phone) to work yesterday, the APN name was VZWINTERNET but it lacked some of the text strings you supplied, and could not be edited by the user. It also seemed to vanish after the phone was programmed properly.
The "Bearer" line shouldn't look like that. Most carriers and MVNOs leave it as "Not Set" or unspecified. So this is junk data the phone will discard at best or be confused by at worst. My concern was that those settings would be rejected by Verizon and you wouldn't be able to obtain an IP address, since similar things can and have happened on the AT&T side (which is what my primary uses).
And once again, this doesn't exactly fix things for those using the 1607 model. People have tried your trick extensively, but the ROMs currently being used are Dual SIM and don't recognize CDMA technology as being valid. As such, they either get Voice/NoData, or Data/NoVoice. They're not reading MEIDs or IMEIs correctly, favoring one over the other, and that's what we believe to be part of the problem. So forgive me for being cynical about this.

mkollersms said:
There are multiple problems with what you are saying. First, Total Wireless is a subsidiary of America Movil, same as Tracfone, StraightTalk, Net10, TelCel and Family Mobile. Considering I just had to fight with Tracfone to get a VZW APN (on a different phone) to work yesterday, the APN name was VZWINTERNET but it lacked some of the text strings you supplied, and could not be edited by the user. It also seemed to vanish after the phone was programmed properly.
The "Bearer" line shouldn't look like that. Most carriers and MVNOs leave it as "Not Set" or unspecified. So this is junk data the phone will discard at best or be confused by at worst. My concern was that those settings would be rejected by Verizon and you wouldn't be able to obtain an IP address, since similar things can and have happened on the AT&T side (which is what my primary uses).
And once again, this doesn't exactly fix things for those using the 1607 model. People have tried your trick extensively, but the ROMs currently being used are Dual SIM and don't recognize CDMA technology as being valid. As such, they either get Voice/NoData, or Data/NoVoice. They're not reading MEIDs or IMEIs correctly, favoring one over the other, and that's what we believe to be part of the problem. So forgive me for being cynical about this.
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So is there a difference between the 1607 and 1609 models? The one I have is the 1609 Verizon prepaid bought at Walmart.

mkollersms said:
There are multiple problems with what you are saying. First, Total Wireless is a subsidiary of America Movil, same as Tracfone, StraightTalk, Net10, TelCel and Family Mobile. Considering I just had to fight with Tracfone to get a VZW APN (on a different phone) to work yesterday, the APN name was VZWINTERNET but it lacked some of the text strings you supplied, and could not be edited by the user. It also seemed to vanish after the phone was programmed properly.
The "Bearer" line shouldn't look like that. Most carriers and MVNOs leave it as "Not Set" or unspecified. So this is junk data the phone will discard at best or be confused by at worst. My concern was that those settings would be rejected by Verizon and you wouldn't be able to obtain an IP address, since similar things can and have happened on the AT&T side (which is what my primary uses).
And once again, this doesn't exactly fix things for those using the 1607 model. People have tried your trick extensively, but the ROMs currently being used are Dual SIM and don't recognize CDMA technology as being valid. As such, they either get Voice/NoData, or Data/NoVoice. They're not reading MEIDs or IMEIs correctly, favoring one over the other, and that's what we believe to be part of the problem. So forgive me for being cynical about this.
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I'm just telling you what I did for my sister's Verizon Prepaid Moto G4 Play XT1609 phone on Total Wireless. Anyone with the same exact model phone should be able to replicate what I did. Maybe this will not work on other models, but it worked for me using the Change APN app using those EXACT apn settings. I don't see why you would be so cynical about this, and I only posted this to help others out that may have the same issue I had, nothing more, nothing less buddy.

Here's where I found the TW apn settings that worked for me. https://www.reddit.com/r/NoContract/comments/4pkhoh/total_wireless_4g_apn_settings/

mrtnrz8 said:
So is there a difference between the 1607 and 1609 models? The one I have is the 1609 Verizon prepaid bought at Walmart.
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1607 has both a GSM/LTE and a CDMA/LTE antenna. 1609 only has a CDMA/LTE antenna and its LTE bands are locked to a smaller range.

mkollersms said:
1607 has both a GSM/LTE and a CDMA/LTE antenna. 1609 only has a CDMA/LTE antenna and its LTE bands are locked to a smaller range.
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So if TW is an MVNO of Verizon, shouldn't this phone work with their service by just changing the APN settings, as Phenom727 suggests?