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Hi guys,
I bought the first galaxy note very early last year, i was probably among the first people to have it. I bought it when I was on a trip to europe and just thought it would be better than the galaxy nexus or galaxy s2, by the time I arrived back to my country I realized that I am stuck with this phone and I better like it either i want to or not. So after a whole year of using it, I sold it to an unknown person for a pretty nice price. (I lost the s-pen, and the phone was pretty bruised).
Believe it or not, today I am without a smartphone and LIFE IS HARD! i am carrying this stupid nokia 5800 which fails at everything... so I am thinking should I buy the note2? should I wait for the htc one x+? S3? or should I continue waiting for something else?
Personally and most honestly the note1 was an impressive device, but the size made it a bit unrealistic, people stared at me whenever I answered a call.. and I found it a bit uncomfortable. Other than the size, everything else was good. Today after being without a smartphone for about 2 weeks, I get impressed and satisfied even with smaller screens like the s3 features...
so help your brother here find the right path, tell me what I should do in your opinion
I love the 5800 Xpressmusic (I still use mines as my alarm clock... and it's gone 2-3 weeks without charging already).
Nostalgia aside, if you want a smaller device, go with the S3, if you like the note, go with the Note II, it got a bit thinner and a little longer so, it is *slightly* better to hold in the hand. And yeah, I can understand the awkwardness, but then again, I'm the one who walks around with a Nexus 7 in his pockets
The S3 is pretty much comparable to the Note II except there isn't a stylus, however, if you want a smaller phone, I say wait til Oct 29, as Google has just announced a conference about android they might talk about the Nexus 4 device from LG with S4 Pro, 720p 4.7" screen and vanilla android. If you want a bigger phone, get the Note II.
Like the one above say, Note2 is a nr1 device "IF" you can handle the size.
I think the note2 is more easy use with one hand then the old Note1 but it does not make it a small device tho..
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Qvp said:
Hi guys,
I bought the first galaxy note very early last year, i was probably among the first people to have it. I bought it when I was on a trip to europe and just thought it would be better than the galaxy nexus or galaxy s2, by the time I arrived back to my country I realized that I am stuck with this phone and I better like it either i want to or not. So after a whole year of using it, I sold it to an unknown person for a pretty nice price. (I lost the s-pen, and the phone was pretty bruised).
Believe it or not, today I am without a smartphone and LIFE IS HARD! i am carrying this stupid nokia 5800 which fails at everything... so I am thinking should I buy the note2? should I wait for the htc one x+? S3? or should I continue waiting for something else?
Personally and most honestly the note1 was an impressive device, but the size made it a bit unrealistic, people stared at me whenever I answered a call.. and I found it a bit uncomfortable. Other than the size, everything else was good. Today after being without a smartphone for about 2 weeks, I get impressed and satisfied even with smaller screens like the s3 features...
so help your brother here find the right path, tell me what I should do in your opinion
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Like the others said, if you don't like how big the note is, then maybe you should go with a smaller size. The note 2 isn't as wide as the note 1 tho. You should check it out at a store to see if its good.
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Try the Meizu mx4 or wait for the Xiami mi2.
I'm using the mx4 and I'm very happy with it.
It's 4" sized and thus very nice to hold in your hand.
If you want something thats easy on your wallet try going for last generation material like the s2, which has a similar form factor.
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Try the Meizu mx4 or wait for the Xiami mi2.
I'm using the mx4 and I'm very happy with it.
It's 4" sized and thus very nice to hold in your hand.
If you want something thats easy on your wallet try going for last generation material like the s2, which has a similar form factor.
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Can u even get those phones outside of china? I would imagine in Amy country outside of china meizu would be served hot on a plate by apple... you think Samsung copied apple... heck meizu got famous for outright doing so.
If not going for Note i would for sure wait and take a look at the new nexus. Even the LG optimus G looks sweet if you not dislike Lg. Or the one i really want to test out myself when it come to my country later on..Lumia 920.
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Well seems like Note1 was not good for you, so definitely Note2 is not what you looking for.
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Whatever you decide, please get the s3 with exynos and 2gb ram. The i9305. I had a problem with my old s3 where apps constantly had to be bumped off because it was limited to 1gb ram.
Seriously consider the note 2 though. Best device I've ever owned!
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If size was an issue the note 2 is definitely not for you.
Wait for the nexus.
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...the note1 was an impressive device, but the size made it a bit unrealistic, people stared at me whenever I answered a call.. and I found it a bit uncomfortable...
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Hello,
As you seem to be very concerned about other peoples feelings/opinions and not your own comfort, don't punish yourself and go with the crowd. Buy a nice iPhone 5, nobody will notice you and you'll feel comfortable.
I'm very sorry but I'm astonished every time about these kind of posts; damned you're big boys and girls so make up your mind and do what you want! It's such a personal thing, nobody can help you because you are you and the others are the others....:silly:
Tonio78370 said:
Hello,
As you seem to be very concerned about other peoples feelings/opinions and not your own comfort, don't punish yourself and go with the crowd. Buy a nice iPhone 5, nobody will notice you and you'll feel comfortable.
I'm very sorry but I'm astonished every time about these kind of posts; damned you're big boys and girls so make up your mind and do what you want! It's such a personal thing, nobody can help you because you are you and the others are the others....:silly:
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I think he is just uncomfortable because when he whips out such a big phone like the note people look at him. It's really is usually big and I get stares too though I don't mind it.
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Ariozo said:
If not going for Note i would for sure wait and take a look at the new nexus. Even the LG optimus G looks sweet if you not dislike Lg. Or the one i really want to test out myself when it come to my country later on..Lumia 920.
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Yesterday I picked up my Note 2.
I was thinking the same thing: A Nexus device that comes out will always get updates a lot faster, and it'll be a "faster" device in general. But then I thought:
Quadcore is NEW and this will last a while on mobile devices.
The Note 2 has 2GB of Ram, which was my first REAL issue with the Note 1
It has an LED notification light
Giant battery
Those are the things I really wanted in my next device! The note 2 fulfills those tasks.
On the plus side of course is the SPen, NFC, and the larger screen. Another 5 inch device would be my only remedy but I didn't see LED notification light and the 2000 mah battery on the HTC version and no SPen. so I said bye bye to that idea! It would be a higher res LCD screen but a lot of minuses in my case (the LED Notification light is NECESSARY for my device now) and then the non removable battery? CRAP! I was on the bus traveling from city to city and my Note 1's battery died, and I just switched it out!
I have 15 days to return it if the next Nexus is a 5 inch device with notification LED, NFC, huge battery & an awesome screen, etc... then I'll change it for the Nexus! haha. But until then, this is a FANTASTIC device.
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Whatever you decide, please get the s3 with exynos and 2gb ram. The i9305. I had a problem with my old s3 where apps constantly had to be bumped off because it was limited to 1gb ram.
Seriously consider the note 2 though. Best device I've ever owned!
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Yesterday I picked up my Note 2.
I was thinking the same thing: A Nexus device that comes out will always get updates a lot faster, and it'll be a "faster" device in general. But then I thought:
Quadcore is NEW and this will last a while on mobile devices.
The Note 2 has 2GB of Ram, which was my first REAL issue with the Note 1
It has an LED notification light
Giant battery
Those are the things I really wanted in my next device! The note 2 fulfills those tasks.
On the plus side of course is the SPen, NFC, and the larger screen. Another 5 inch device would be my only remedy but I didn't see LED notification light and the 2000 mah battery on the HTC version and no SPen. so I said bye bye to that idea! It would be a higher res LCD screen but a lot of minuses in my case (the LED Notification light is NECESSARY for my device now) and then the non removable battery? CRAP! I was on the bus traveling from city to city and my Note 1's battery died, and I just switched it out!
I have 15 days to return it if the next Nexus is a 5 inch device with notification LED, NFC, huge battery & an awesome screen, etc... then I'll change it for the Nexus! haha. But until then, this is a FANTASTIC device.
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Agreed. Definitely the best phone ever made... for now.
Frustration awaits, unless Samsung release those sources.
NO CM FOR YOU.
As nice CM is, i would not flash it on my note. As just on note it is the small things that CM should remove i like. I even thing if i had to chose one phone to only use with Stock it for sure should be the Note.
I cant stand stock most off the time but on Note it is doable.
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I'm awaiting the shipment of my Note II. I've been without my original Note for a while now as I sold it early so I could get more towards the II. I've been using the S3 which is a fantastic phone. Honestly I loved whenever I'd pull out the original Note and people would suddenly stare, joke, question, etc. People were always amazed by it and I can't tell you how many times I got asked if I could actually use it as a phone. People would end up loving it when I would let them use it for web browsing or something. The original Note really wasn't easy to use with one hand, but wasn't impossible. Hearing that the Note II's form factor fits slightly better in hand makes me really happy. Plus the bigger screen is ridiculous!
Hi all,
Well, hope someone can give me their opinions here.
I have had a Samsung Galaxy note II for a couple of months now, but I am considering getting the Nexus 4 since I want stock Android and get access to the latest Android updates.
Also, the Note II has been a little big to me.
I heared somewhere that the microphone of the phone is not that good, is this really true?
How do you like the phone? Is this a good choice?
I know that some peole may chooce the Samsung for it's screen, but other than that?
Another thing is the built in battery on the Nexus 4 wich I don't like, but suppose one has to live with that.
Any comments please!
Many thanks!
Chris08 said:
Hi all,
Well, hope someone can give me their opinions here.
I have had a Samsung Galaxy note II for a couple of months now, but I am considering getting the Nexus 4 since I want stock Android and get access to the latest Android updates.
Also, the Note II has been a little big to me.
I heared somewhere that the microphone of the phone is not that good, is this really true?
How do you like the phone? Is this a good choice?
I know that some peole may chooce the Samsung for it's screen, but other than that?
Another thing is the built in battery on the Nexus 4 wich I don't like, but suppose one has to live with that.
Any comments please!
Many thanks!
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I had a note 2 before the N4 came out. And for me the note 2 was just too big. I like being able to use the whole device with one hand.
That said. The mic on the N4 is fine when making voice calls. the problem I noticed is when recording video, or using apps like voxer walkie talkie or VOIP apps. Basically anything other than voice calls. I can't explain why, but it just sounds like your always way to close to the mic.
The ear piece has some fuzz sound on voice calls (unless they fixed it in newer revisions.).
I also feel like the signal is worse with this phone. What ever the logistics are it will often go from 3 bars to 1 bar without evening touching it, but doesn't seem to affect the use of it unless you're in a poor coverage area already then it will show no service much more often than my G nex or Note 2 did.
The note 2 has much better battery life because of size and I like that it is removable. I also really like the wireless charging on the Nexus. I miss SD slot on note.
All that said. I still prefer the nexus over the note 2 at this point.
Chris08 said:
Hi all,
Well, hope someone can give me their opinions here.
I have had a Samsung Galaxy note II for a couple of months now, but I am considering getting the Nexus 4 since I want stock Android and get access to the latest Android updates.
Also, the Note II has been a little big to me.
I heared somewhere that the microphone of the phone is not that good, is this really true?
How do you like the phone? Is this a good choice?
I know that some peole may chooce the Samsung for it's screen, but other than that?
Another thing is the built in battery on the Nexus 4 wich I don't like, but suppose one has to live with that.
Any comments please!
Many thanks!
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I also had the Galaxy Note 2 and it is a great phone with very good batterylife. But what i like more is the pure android xperience without the touchwizz shell over it, the bleeding edge cpu and gpu and fast updates. Also i like the size and usabilty is better than on th GN2. And since 4.2.2 batterylife has improved a lot. I would recommend the Nexus 4 for daily use and speed and the Note 2 if you like using the S-pen features and appreciate the screen size.
Hi,
Many thanks for your replies!
That sounds good, I don't use the S-pen and it's OK with not using the big screen as the Note 2 has and as i said, want to get the new Anroid updates and I don't know if the Note 2 will be updated to v4.2. I don't like the touchwiz that much either so I can live without it.
How is the loud speaker on the phone then? Is it OK?
Some people have said that this is a downgrade from Note 2, but I don't think so.
Many thanks!
The speaker is okay to me, but I don't expect a lot from phone speakers. Definitely not as good as the note's though.
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Chris08 said:
Hi,
Many thanks for your replies!
That sounds good, I don't use the S-pen and it's OK with not using the big screen as the Note 2 has and as i said, want to get the new Anroid updates and I don't know if the Note 2 will be updated to v4.2. I don't like the touchwiz that much either so I can live without it.
How is the loud speaker on the phone then? Is it OK?
Some people have said that this is a downgrade from Note 2, but I don't think so.
Many thanks!
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The Note II will probably be updated to 4.2.1/4.2.2 around Q2 2013 (so that is when the next v. of android will be announced.)
first thanks for giving me some of your time to share you experience
second i am getting my 1st android phone soon -isa-
so i suggested nexus 4 as i my android experince i trued alot of phones xperia arc s - SGY - Tablets running ICS - SG Ace + etc
my father suggested note 2 but i guess nexus 4 is more powerful in gaming (hardcore gaming) then i read about alot of CONs like lack of 4g which didn't matter of the non expanable memory which also didn't matter the camera isn't really good i tried to ignore it but the problem of the phone heat is what matters so Nexus 4 or Suggect a phone in the range of price the note 2 and the nexus 4 (the note 2 here costs about 535$ )
Go for it.
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If it'll be your first Android phone, I'd recommend the Nexus 4. You'll get the stock Android experience, have loads of customization and modding choices available, and get future Android updates first. Best part (imo) is that you can get the Nexus 4 for a reasonable price, up-front, and be carrier unlocked (usually carriers will either make you pay for the phone + $200 or so, or you'll pay an extra $100 or so over the course of a 2-year agreement plan; this is of course only the case if you can't get the phone straight from the manufacturer).
With any other non-Nexus device, you'll either have:
- OEM Skinned interface (usually lacking customization, and can even be more resource-hungry/battery draining)
- Slower or no updates (it's not unheard of for phones to release and never get updates to newer minor or major Android upgrades, or get them months later)
- Locked down environment (either carrier locked or bootloader locked, not be able to use any app you want (with T-Mobile for example, their branded phones can't use Google Wallet via legit means))
But non-Nexus devices aren't always bad either. OEM accessories are usually more plentiful on non-Nexus devices (take the Nexus 10 for example; we get a cover flap accessory months later after release, and that's it for official accessories; whereas Samsung probably has plenty of accessories for their actual Galaxy Tab lineup).
As for the Nexus 4's camera, I'm very impressed with it. To be fair though, I haven't really owned any "decent" camera prior to the Nexus 4 (had some webcams basically lol). The heat isn't really an issue either afaik (might be more of an issue with a completely stock device, but custom kernels allow you to undervolt and/or underclock).
I Am Marino said:
Go for it.
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espionage724 said:
If it'll be your first Android phone, I'd recommend the Nexus 4. You'll get the stock Android experience, have loads of customization and modding choices available, and get future Android updates first. Best part (imo) is that you can get the Nexus 4 for a reasonable price, up-front, and be carrier unlocked (usually carriers will either make you pay for the phone + $200 or so, or you'll pay an extra $100 or so over the course of a 2-year agreement plan; this is of course only the case if you can't get the phone straight from the manufacturer).
With any other non-Nexus device, you'll either have:
- OEM Skinned interface (usually lacking customization, and can even be more resource-hungry/battery draining)
- Slower or no updates (it's not unheard of for phones to release and never get updates to newer minor or major Android upgrades, or get them months later)
- Locked down environment (either carrier locked or bootloader locked, not be able to use any app you want (with T-Mobile for example, their branded phones can't use Google Wallet via legit means))
But non-Nexus devices aren't always bad either. OEM accessories are usually more plentiful on non-Nexus devices (take the Nexus 10 for example; we get a cover flap accessory months later after release, and that's it for official accessories; whereas Samsung probably has plenty of accessories for their actual Galaxy Tab lineup).
As for the Nexus 4's camera, I'm very impressed with it. To be fair though, I haven't really owned any "decent" camera prior to the Nexus 4 (had some webcams basically lol). The heat isn't really an issue either afaik (might be more of an issue with a completely stock device, but custom kernels allow you to undervolt and/or underclock).
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not really new cause i use android for more that a year and i can use odin or CMW etc
so with nexus 4 i can make more than Note II as for gaming ? cause iam really afraid about the heating problem and i don't go to a places which have weak signal here home it's always Full 3G on My E71 and else on Ryad KSA so .. if u used note 2 is it better and does the signal which make it hot and finally thanks for ur time
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not really new cause i use android for more that a year and i can use odin or CMW etc
so with nexus 4 i can make more than Note II as for gaming ? cause iam really afraid about the heating problem and i don't go to a places which have weak signal here home it's always Full 3G on My E71 and else on Ryad KSA so ..
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It all depends on what type of games you are trying to play. If you play games like Modern Combat, Batman, NOVA, and etc. Then more screen size would be ideal, even though the nexus 4 can handle those games with ease, it might just feel hotter because of the glass. Whereas, the Note 2 and 99.9% have either plastic or aluminum backs. A TPU case can help with the heat or any case at that. Just don't try to play the games for 2-3 hours with the GPU overclocked +100Mhz, that will not be wise.
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It all depends on what type of games you are trying to play. If you play games like Modern Combat, Batman, NOVA, and etc. Then more screen size would be ideal, even though the nexus 4 can handle those games with ease, it might just feel hotter because of the glass. Whereas, the Note 2 and 99.9% have either plastic or aluminum backs. A TPU case can help with the heat or any case at that. Just don't try to play the games for 2-3 hours with the GPU overclocked +100Mhz, that will not be wise.
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i don't know any thing about overclocking and i just now that n4 won't need overclocking or downclocking (or what ever it's callled ) except in saving battery and if the heat doesn't damage the hard ware i don't care so doesn't it damage the hardware and as u are a nexus 4 user would u call it The Superb Phone even over Samsung G Note 2 ?
Wait until the 15th to make a decision, google will make announcements. Just my 2 cents.
The N4 with it's S4 Pro is indeed more smoother than the Samsung S4 with a S600. Why because the OS is better optimised.
Whatever phone you get is down to you, I've been through phones with Sense and TouchWiz but once you go stock Android it's hard to use a skinned version. Nexus devices will always be up to date software wise compared to Non Nexus devices and they will have much longer support from Google and Devs for future releases.
Your money, your call, whatever phone you get you'll enjoy it.
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The N4 with it's S4 Pro is indeed more smoother than the Samsung S4 with a S600. Why because the OS is better optimised.
Whatever phone you get is down to you, I've been through phones with Sense and TouchWiz but once you go stock Android it's hard to use a skinned version. Nexus devices will always be up to date software wise compared to Non Nexus devices and they will have much longer support from Google and Devs for future releases.
Your money, your call, whatever phone you get you'll enjoy it.
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Hhhhhhh that's one of the best comments i've ever read but i wan't to ask u as a nexus 4 user do u enjoy it more than samsungs crap the s pen is why asked about note 2 but how long can u play with n4 in one charge ؟
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DaRkEMpRoR said:
Hhhhhhh that's one of the best comments i've ever read but i wan't to ask u as a nexus 4 user do u enjoy it more than samsungs crap the s pen is why asked about note 2 but how long can u play with n4 in one charge ؟
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I had the Note 2 and it suffered tinting issues and had crappy Pentile screen so I returned it. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely phone. Depends what you want with Nexus devices you have the latest stock software some find it boring some love it. With skinned versions you get extra features like airview etc on TouchWiz, however it takes longer for them to release newer versions of Android.
Battery is fine I run custom kernels and lasts me a whole day on WiFi can get over 5 hours screen on time playing some basic games and such.
It's fast and smooth hardly any lag, great development.
Only thing I dislike is the camera other than that I love it.
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I had the Note 2 and it suffered tinting issues and had crappy Pentile screen so I returned it. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely phone. Depends what you want with Nexus devices you have the latest stock software some find it boring some love it. With skinned versions you get extra features like airview etc on TouchWiz, however it takes longer for them to release newer versions of Android.
Battery is fine I run custom kernels and lasts me a whole day on WiFi can get over 5 hours screen on time playing some basic games and such.
It's fast and smooth hardly any lag, great development.
Only thing I dislike is the camera other than that I love it.
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really thanks so i guess i will buy nexus 4 cause a camera better than my e71 or asha 311 is fare enough for Me
and finally thanks for your time
I live in India as well and I purchased the Nexus 4 about 2 weeks ago - *just* missed the 303K revision and I got the 301K without the little feet added to the back to raise it up ever so slightly (check the S/N i.e. Serial Number). Apart from LTE (barely useful in 3 cities across India) and 32GB storage (depends on yours usage - 16GB with 12.95GB usable is enough for me) there haven't been rumours of other STOP-DON'T-BUY updates to it. If you can wait till next week, by all means, do that, otherwise the Nexus 4 is a great buy for now and a while to come.
On a side note: Personally I'm loving the phone, however 3G signal is a bit poor while roaming and that causes my battery to really drain, so I'm using a toggle to turn it on when I want. Though, I want to find a way to make a gesture do that instead, let's see.
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I live in India as well and I purchased the Nexus 4 about 2 weeks ago - *just* missed the 303K revision and I got the 301K without the little feet added to the back to raise it up ever so slightly (check the S/N i.e. Serial Number). Apart from LTE (barely useful in 3 cities across India) and 32GB storage (depends on yours usage - 16GB with 12.95GB usable is enough for me) there haven't been rumours of other STOP-DON'T-BUY updates to it. If you can wait till next week, by all means, do that, otherwise the Nexus 4 is a great buy for now and a while to come.
On a side note: Personally I'm loving the phone, however 3G signal is a bit poor while roaming and that causes my battery to really drain, so I'm using a toggle to turn it on when I want. Though, I want to find a way to make a gesture do that instead, let's see.
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i guess i will w8 and see what will they change
i don't know why every one one internet is telling me to choose note 2 but ian afraid that samsung doesn't release much updates as Nexus 4 or i will be disappointed by the battery or the s pen is very good the good screen iam really confused about my choise
Go play with them don't let other people influence your decision, go to a shop, try them out, get a feel for them, then enjoy.
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Go play with them don't let other people influence your decision, go to a shop, try them out, get a feel for them, then enjoy.
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what about your opinion i would really care of it as you are a note 2 and a nexus 4 user and i can't try any one of them cause i buy them online and my father need me to choose so i can get it when i travel to him
I love my Nexus 4 and I don't suffer from any of the problems that some people suffer from. Some people expect the PERFECT phone but It all depends on how anal you are about your stuff. I've played plenty of games and I haven't had any problems.
No problems with my N4 just pure fun Had it since November.
iam just saying that i can wait for another 3 or even 6 months if the New nexus 5 will be launched !
so do u think it 'll be launched before the end of this year
If you wait you'll always be waiting for the next best thing. New phones due out this year, new LG phone, Sony with a big camera, rumoured Motorola X Phone, Nexus 5, iPhone 5s, Galaxy Note 3, probably HTC One+ or HTC 5" screen, the you have the Chinese brands, Oppo, ZTE, Huawei. Probably what I've listed next new big things.
If your happy with your current phone wait until you are ready to buy otherwise if you want something now Nexus 4 at its price is a very good phone simply for stock Android and software updates.
The day you buy a new phone it becomes old and a successor or new beast will always be on its way.
The Note 2 was good but a little too big for my small hands, the camera is better on the Note than Nexus. Nexus wins purely for software updates, excellent development, and it's the smoothest Android phone I've ever had, running custom rom and kernel.
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I have a chance to exchange my N4 for Note II + $120 C on top of my phone. I don't know what to do. I would really like to have super amoled 5.5" screenn, SD card and stronger battery. The things I don't like is physical buttons, and not a Google phone (updates and freedom of Nexus phones). I have no idea what to do. Should I go for it. What you think? Please give me your opinion.
Do it. Use the $120 towards the N4 8gb.
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Decide it for yourself. One thing I hate about the Note(all Sammy devices) is that they get really sticky due to sweat. I have seen my brother's GS3 that it's really sticky to touch. On the other hand, the N4 requires a fragile user. You must have seen the numerous thread about people breaking the phone on the first day. If you are one who drops the phone a lot, then stay away from the N4.
OS side isn't a problem, if you don't mind rooting and modding. Both phones have great dev communities backing it up on the software side.
I highly suggest to try both phones by yourself in a store or some other place and decide it for yourself.
Before I got my Nexus, I was going to get the Note ll. Then I saw it up close, too big to fit in my pockets and a pain to hold. I ended getting the nexus 4, you can't beat it. I ended buying it unlocked because I don't want to sign another contract with ROBBERS. Great specs, great price, timely updates and stock Android.
It falls on the user though. Some people enjoy a huge phablet like a note ll. Depends what you are going to use it for.
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I never put my phone in the pants poked anyway. My hands can hold it normally, not to too big. Plastic look is bothering me I have to say that. Compare to N4 look Note II is like a toy. From other side Samsung device like Note II have no others to compare. What else you can take to have super amoled 5.5" screen and similar spec. Nothing really.
I've had both . The note is nice but i think its to big to be a phone for me . The removable battery is nice and I got over a SD slot a long time ago. So for me its N4 all the way .
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N4, nice solid phone, you can't go wrong go with it
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exactly...
I had the original Note and now I have the Nexus 4. The only thing I miss about the Note is the bigger screen. I don't make a lot of calls, my smartphone is more of a mobile computer, so a big screen is desirable.
The reason I switched is because Samsung (as well as most OEMs) do a horrible job of updating their phones. I've had two non-Nexus Android phones, and I hated that every time a new version of Android was released, I had to wait months or a year to get the update, if at all.
Sure there's always CM, but without kernel source, a lot of phones run like crap with CM. I have the HTC Inspire and battery life was awful with CM. I had the Note and it would randomly reboot with CM because the kernel was a hack because no JB source.
For me, features and stability won out over screen size. That being said, if the next Nexus phone is bigger than the N4, I'll be getting it immediately.
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I had the original Note and now I have the Nexus 4. The only thing I miss about the Note is the bigger screen. I don't make a lot of calls, my smartphone is more of a mobile computer, so a big screen is desirable.
The reason I switched is because Samsung (as well as most OEMs) do a horrible job of updating their phones. I've had two non-Nexus Android phones, and I hated that every time a new version of Android was released, I had to wait months or a year to get the update, if at all.
Sure there's always CM, but without kernel source, a lot of phones run like crap with CM. I have the HTC Inspire and battery life was awful with CM. I had the Note and it would randomly reboot with CM because the kernel was a hack because no JB source.
For me, features and stability won out over screen size. That being said, if the next Nexus phone is bigger than the N4, I'll be getting it immediately.
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I came from the Note n7000 as well. Used my phone in the same manner, as a mini PC. However, I wouldnt go back to the Note. It all depends on your needs for the phone. If you want a better camera and a media device due to the large screen. Then ya. However, if you prefer excellent battery life on a phone with a global community of great developers then stay with the n4.
PS remember Nexus 4 will get updates much faster than the note 2 and you wont get asked/mocked/ridiculed CONSTANTLY about having such a massive phone and explaining to others why you have it.
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Decide it for yourself. One thing I hate about the Note(all Sammy devices) is that they get really sticky due to sweat. I have seen my brother's GS3 that it's really sticky to touch. On the other hand, the N4 requires a fragile user. You must have seen the numerous thread about people breaking the phone on the first day. If you are one who drops the phone a lot, then stay away from the N4.
OS side isn't a problem, if you don't mind rooting and modding. Both phones have great dev communities backing it up on the software side.
I highly suggest to try both phones by yourself in a store or some other place and decide it for yourself.
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i gotta say though the note 2 is lacking in the "original development" area. there's lots of ports and touchwiz based roms but for an aosp, there's much to be desired.
cyanogenmod was onboard until relatively recently then it stopped. it's up to a few to really keep it up and so far, it's all been nightlies and no stable releases.
i just gave up my note 2 and had to come back to a nexus 4 because of the lack of support. gs3 or gs4 probably has proper support.
Having both the N4 and the NII I'd say emphatically the Note II is worth it. No picky, fragile sim card tray. No fragile glass back, poor reception, slow mobile data.
The Note II has a 2-3 day battery, gets a signal where the N4 can't, and has a beautiful display.
The best thing about the N4 is the price and it's a Google device. For $120 anybody would be nuts to choose a N4.
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Having both the N4 and the NII I'd say emphatically the Note II is worth it. No picky, fragile sim card tray. No fragile glass back, poor reception, slow mobile data.
The Note II has a 2-3 day battery, gets a signal where the N4 can't, and has a beautiful display.
The best thing about the N4 is the price and it's a Google device. For $120 anybody would be nuts to choose a N4.
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Is nexus reception that poor? I need to decide between those two phones. One big drawback for me is mali400 in note 2. I think that adreno 320 is more futureproof. Could you tell me about camera quality on nexus vs note 2? My brother has note 2 but unfortunately i dont know anyone with nexus 4 to compare them.
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Camera in note2 is far superior in focus IQ and speed. Low light images are better on the note 2. I also used to have one.
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Depends on your needs! For instance, a friend of mine is a designer, she loves NOTE2.
Thank you everyone. I will stay with my N4. I just can not stand physical buttons, cheap plastic and huge price differences. N4 is better device except sd card and smaller screen. The only thing I would like is 5.5" but everything else is step back for me. Not even mentioning the community for N4. So much stuff to choose between. With Note 2 after having N4 I will feel like having old device and stick with what I have. No way, not me...
My brother bought a Nexus 5 and he doesn´t like it. He said if I want we can change (my note 2 for his Nexus 5) and despite the bovious prices difference what you do in my place? I am very satisfied with my Samsung and will put a new rom to give a extra live (it has official 4.4.2).
Thanks and sorry for my bad english
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My brother bought a Nexus 5 and he doesn´t like it. He said if I want we can change (my note 2 for his Nexus 5) and despite the bovious prices difference what you do in my place? I am very satisfied with my Samsung and will put a new rom to give a extra live (it has official 4.4.2).
Thanks and sorry for my bad english
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If you can compromise with battery life and screen size then go for it. Snapdragon 800 will blow your mind. Camera is also not that great in N5 but it'll do the job just right.
I say go for it.
I don't know if that is a good idea, I'd keep the Note. You can't really compare these 2 devices in terms of Performance. N5 runs stock, N2 runs TouchWiz. Stock Android is and will always be buttery smooth. TouchWiz can also be quite smooth and that stuff but yeah, it is a skin of Android which might be not so smooth and fast all the time but with KitKat, it's pretty fast.
N5 has a really small battery and the Note 2s battery blows the N5 out of the way. N5s display is LCD and the N2 has a SAMOLED Display but lower PPI but anyways, think twice, seriously. I had the Nexus 4 for 2 months and I missed my Note 2 so much, the Nexus 4 was really crap compared to the Note.
Just my 2 cents.
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Never ever, cause Nexus may be fast, smooth and other pleasant things, but in fact and from my point of view: BORING
You can have pure Android experience on Note 2 too (AOSP-roms), but you'll never feel the flexibility of having S5, Note 3 features or even Note 2 S-Pen on a Nexus.
If someone would donate me a Nexus I would sell it to even get a second N2.
Thanx for the answers; it´s really hard to decide and the phones can´t be compared. The only way to both be satisfied that I can think now is, I change with him, sell the nexus and buy a note 3... Here in Souht America the prices are very different (almost twice the price for a nexus 5 new to one used N2).
Ok i own a galaxy nexus right now, about nexus devices being boring is a fact they are, but when that happens u just swap your rom, this week i will have my note 2 back, however i will not sell galaxy nexus for now
The advantages
galaxy nexus
always updated,
butter smooth,
a lot of customization,
The disadvantages
no memory card,
recovery problems, cause of internal storage(once i ve done a full wipe and i had no rom on it, a big mess)
note 2
big screen (major advantage)
battery
sdcard
disadvantages
serious software problems(SDS)
my final veredict is, if you are a flashoolic and u just love custom roms, go for a nexus(of course you will have to say goodbye to battery and screen) if u just dont like to flash roms that much and u seek more for watch moovies or play hd games stick with the note,
keep also in mind that u can sell the nexus and buy a note 3 with some more money
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big screen (major advantage)
battery
sdcard
disadvantages
serious software problems(SDS)
my final veredict is, if you are a flashoolic and u just love custom roms, go for a nexus(of course you will have to say goodbye to battery and screen) if u just dont like to flash roms that much and u seek more for watch moovies or play hd games stick with the note,
keep also in mind that u can sell the nexus and buy a note 3 with some more money
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Kindly disagreed:
SDS is mostly a myth and overrated (whenever phone freezes, people start crying about SDS)
I can port nearly every device on Note 2 but no Touchwiz rom on a nexus (just take a look around Dev forum and my signature).
So, for flashoholics like me there is only Note. :angel:
Androidwizzard said:
Kindly disagreed:
SDS is mostly a myth and overrated (whenever phone freezes, people start crying about SDS)
I can port nearly every device on Note 2 but no Touchwiz rom on a nexus (just take a look around Dev forum and my signature).
So, for flashoholics like me there is only Note. :angel:
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Respectfully disagreed,
I am a regular follower of XDA and some sites and flash many things just even to try sometimes. I also get bored easily with regular software and like to try new ways of using the phone.
If you like to use Note 2 "as is" then it is still a great phone (even greater than some newer phones). However trying new things with that phone is not about discovering what's new on the developers' world, instead it is mostly about "trying a new cure"..
I recently updated my Note 2 to 4.4.2 and then broke my warranty out of curiosity. TW KitKat is really good for people who are looking for a good phone. But then I went for Paranoid Android. The next thing I was looking for to flash was a camera cure because of the problematic camera. After that got solved, now my WiFi is not turning on without a restart and there is not even one person who mentions it on the main topic (I will, but...). In addition to that there is very low volume problem of the sound recording (whether it be a video or just voice) and there is no solution to this either.
I had bought a Nexus 4 and given my Note 2 to my sister. After 5 months she wanted my Nexus and offered my Note 2 back. I couldn't say no cause she really wanted it. Now I have two data coming from two different persons, one is a flashocolic and the other is just a user who likes iPhones etc. The one thing in common is that they both prefer the Nexus.
Because there is really a solution to everything on the Nexus world, software-wise. But here, on Note 2's world, it's like yesterday that the devs were reprehending people with complaints by saying "do it yourself if you can!!!" out of the anger to Samsung not sharing sources.
There is solution to Nexus battery problems too (you could call that a problem only after a Note). Just buy a power bank and you'll get even more battery time than a Note.
On the camera wise, Note 2 is really good. I believe that is the only thing without a solution for a Nexus device. A Nexus sometimes can match with Note 2's camera but never outdo it.
For every other thing you want or you might wanna have in the future, a Nexus is a better and more open possibility..
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Androidwizzard said:
Kindly disagreed:
SDS is mostly a myth and overrated (whenever phone freezes, people start crying about SDS)
I can port nearly every device on Note 2 but no Touchwiz rom on a nexus (just take a look around Dev forum and my signature).
So, for flashoholics like me there is only Note. :angel:
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Can i ask you how many notes2 have u had?
well i had 2 and both died in the night, i couldnt do nothing, `
so please dont tell me that sds doesn't exist, "i had nightmeers about it ahah"
now im getting my note 2 after a Motherboard replacement.
and whats this and this
I do not want to convince anybody. It is only my point of view at the beginning of developing own roms and the possibilities with this ancient device are still outstanding. Certainly better is the Note 3 and the upcoming Note 4.
My dream is Xperia Z2 on Note 2 with S-Pen features and hopefully soon...... :fingers-crossed:
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Can i ask you how many notes2 have u had?
well i had 2 and both died in the night, i couldnt do nothing, `
so please dont tell me that sds doesn't exist, "i had nightmeers about it ahah"
now im getting my note 2 after a Motherboard replacement.
and whats this and this
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I am supporting on several forums and in many languages and I have seen SDS in realty.
BUT and that is also true: If thousand users ask, if they maybe have SDS cause device seems to die, always freezes, bootloops aso. there is not even one who really suffers from that issue.
And at last your links to Sammy roms on Nexus: You can't be serious to compare that kind of stuff with the abilities of S-Pen.
Kind regards
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I do not want to convince anybody. It is only my point of view at the beginning of developing own roms and the possibilities with this ancient device are still outstanding. Certainly better is the Note 3 and the upcoming Note 4.
My dream is Xperia Z2 on Note 2 with S-Pen features and hopefully soon...... :fingers-crossed:
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I am supporting on several forums and in many languages and I have seen SDS in realty.
BUT and that is also true: If thousand users ask, if they maybe have SDS cause device seems to die, always freezes, bootloops aso. there is not even one who really suffers from that issue.
And at last your links to Sammy roms on Nexus: You can't be serious to compare that kind of stuff with the abilities of S-Pen.
Kind regards
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REALLY!?!?
THIS IS A DEVICE FROM 2011 with these specs
can u tell me what was the first device receiving a port on htc sense 6?
well let's see if note 2 gets first android L than galaxy nexus?
i'm not triyng to convince anybody either, i'm just seiing things as they are, and note 1,2 and 3 are devices with remarcable specs on hardware, but in therms of updates and customization u know who rules.
I have my N2 for about a year and half, and never ever been in trouble with it: good battery life, specs and apps, but to tell the truth I use the s-pen just a few days... It´s like new in this moment as I recently installed the DN3 (awesome rom).
Please, who has the Nexus 5, what is the estimated time of battery (use my N2 without bluetooth disbled only and supports a entire day) and what can be done to enhance it?
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REALLY!?!?
THIS IS A DEVICE FROM 2011 with these specs
can u tell me what was the first device receiving a port on htc sense 6?
well let's see if note 2 gets first android L than galaxy nexus?
i'm not triyng to convince anybody either, i'm just seiing things as they are, and note 1,2 and 3 are devices with remarcable specs on hardware, but in therms of updates and customization u know who rules.
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No doubt about that last statement :good:
Note 2 will never get Android L. for sure, BUT developers will port it to N2 anyway and anyhow in the near future :highfive:
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No doubt about that last statement :good:
Note 2 will never get Android L. for sure, BUT developers will port it to N2 anyway and anyhow in the near future :highfive:
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lets hope so, i will get mine this week :angel:
That´s right, the community of N2 is strong and with no doubt we will have the Android L... Well, let´s study about this negociation N2 x N5...
I guess I am losing some arguements here..
For those who believe S Pen is on top of the "advantages list", that 1024 different pressure senser is only functioning for some of the Samsung built-in apps and an all called Papyrus (as far as I know). Besides, as a person who losev to draw/sketch (and take notes with hand writing) I have now 2 options; a Nexus 7 with bigger screen and a good touch-pen (which can be bouth seperately from anywhere) or my Note 2 with a special pen but also with a smaller screen. I ca nassure you, bigger screen has the advantage here so IF you are into professioanal drawing with all the bells and whisles of that pen either buy a pen and touch-mat set for your laptop or get a Note 10.1. Note 2 (or any 5.x " sized place ) is only suitable for small sketches and hand writing notes which gives nothing to the pressure differentiation. So, basicly it's a feature and it's there. Of course I am note taking it as an disadvantage, but it's not a choice changer.
For those who picks the battery life as a winner; that is definetely true. If you want all your time in one housing any Note phone is a way to go. But if we are calculating the total volume, than a regular phone with an external battery or powerbank would be almost same.
For those who enjoy the big screen and out ir on top of the list; now that's unique. however it's hard to write with one hand -say, on the bus- no matter how big your hands are. And when you are confortable to use the dervice in any way you like, only than the screen size comes as an advantage. But -like in the pen situation- if yo reallty want a bigger screen, this is just a big phone, not a tablet.
One more thing with the screen, it's one of the best screens Samsung has ever made. But today every brand is giving bigger screens to their devices and the colors are much better on most of other phones. Please don't tell me AMOLED is the future with it's super blacks of infinite contrasts etc. Any Xperia screen, or any of he last 2 Nexuses have better screens and much more accurate color reproduction. Even though Samsung has given us 4 scenerios to choose, there is no "true" color choice there. And there is no true whites on that screen. So, black is just one color (which Samsung also fails to give us, look carefully and most of you'll notice that blacks are not same everywhere on the screen) to brag, but all the other colors are unrealistic.
For those who wants to give the credit to the Wolfson sound chip, now that's correct Nothing to say here. Quallcomm is just getting warmt with their new SoCs on the music busniess and we all know HTC's afforts are mostly for advertising.
And also the camera, maybe the best of it's time. Sadly it is bought from Sony but all the camera software and HAL is completely re-written by Samsung and not shared to the public. So any AOSP ROM lovers has to deal with problems on the camera (I believe, the devs that made to this far created a miracle, not thanks to SAmsung of course)
And about ROM porting; IF TouchWiz is so good why need for porting frıom other ROMs? AOSP is so "empty" for some people so they port other ROMs to Nexus phones or they create AOSP for other phones so they can be clean and open. But why port Xperie and Sense ROMs to a TouchWiz based and un-shared device? I guess deep down we all know, no matter how much goodness it contains inside, TouchWiz will make everyone bored and feel unprofessional?
And the Samsung build quality, I wish there was a way to ignore this.
Please don't misunderstand me. I love my Note 2. It would be an incredebly better and longer lifed device if Samsung shared more about it. But I don't see ant of its features as unique and irreplacable. And Nexus 5 has a bigger family with an easier life for an average XDA follower (or for just a curious person)
Probably will change the devices until wednesday and return to post my impressions. As my brother wish a lot since I buy the N2 and the difference in prices here I can´t say no. In last scenary I´ll sell or change the N5 for another phablet... thanks to everyone who asked and post comments.
I'll take N5 if I were you because I prefer stock!:good:
take the N5, sell it, buy another N2, keep the profit.
dude i have both nexus 5 and note 2(both active usage) with kitkat
FOR ME ,i love the nexus 5
nexus 5 is more compact,light ,performance beast,nice and fast ui,quick updates,high res screen without oversaturated tones,nice camera(with hdr+)
BUT
if battery life is really what you need then go for note2 ..i get about 22hrs-23hrs of usage with a bit less than 3hrs screen ontime with nexus 5
with note 2 i get just a bit less than 2 days with the same usage
but nexus 5 has heating issues
note 2 has expandable memory which might be a big deal for some people(me),and much louder speaker,big screen size
...go with n5 but if u need battery,expandable storage,and s-pen..and lag then go for note2