Hello, people from xda. I'm just looking to ask, would the Nexus 4 make a good e-reader? I'm going to do some mainstream reading on my next device, and the Nexus 4 is perfect in every other way (except for the lack of storage space). I've read some pretty good things about the screen, but I'm mainly afraid of two things:
1. Too much scrolling.
2. Eye strain and/or damage.
The Nexus 7 is great in that matter, but it doesn't have a back camera, and that's probably the only thing stopping me getting it.
Follow up: The Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 is perfect in every way, except it hasn't got much active dev status.
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hameerabbasi said:
Hello, people from xda. I'm just looking to ask, would the Nexus 4 make a good e-reader? I'm going to do some mainstream reading on my next device, and the Nexus 4 is perfect in every other way (except for the lack of storage space). I've read some pretty good things about the screen, but I'm mainly afraid of two things:
1. Too much scrolling.
2. Eye strain and/or damage.
The Nexus 7 is great in that matter, but it doesn't have a back camera, and that's probably the only thing stopping me getting it.
Follow up: The Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 is perfect in every way, except it hasn't got much active dev status.
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A Nexus 7 would be better suited for what you're looking for
I think (for a phone) it'd make a great e-reader. The screen apparently holds up well in the sun, and (generally) uses less battery power than AMOLED. I'm planning to use it as my comic/manga reader
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A Nexus 7 would be better suited for what you're looking for
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I know it would. It's quite literally perfect, except for the lack of a camera. I'm planning on replacing my cell phone entirely with the 3G version (if it IS the Nexus 7 I get), so I need an amateur camera.
Thoughts, someone with a Optimus G, perhaps? The screen is the same. S3 or One X users' opinions also welcome.
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I know it would. It's quite literally perfect, except for the lack of a camera. I'm planning on replacing my cell phone entirely with the 3G version (if it IS the Nexus 7 I get), so I need an amateur camera.
Thoughts, someone with a Optimus G, perhaps? The screen is the same. S3 or One X users' opinions also welcome.
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Is there a 3G Nexus 7? I didn't think there was.
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kcls said:
Is there a 3G Nexus 7? I didn't think there was.
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The 3G version of Nexus 7 with 32 GB of storage will be in the Play Store starting 13th November. Reportedly, there will be no other hardware changes.
You could just buy an actual e-ink reader. I have a Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight which is absolutely brilliant. Text is clear, the light is great, and B&N managed to build the first mobile device I've never felt the need to put a case on. I'm very happy with it. I'm not sure of the price now or of any new competition, but when I bought it, it was $140; a price I was happy to pay considering I have an entire library stored on it.
Personally, I don't recommend reading on a phone. I know some people do it, but I don't actually know how they enjoy it. It's best to read from dedicated e-readers or tablets with a decent PPI (Nexus 7, for example) in order to get a book-like experience.
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Stop being cheap and get a kindle etc
There is no greater way to read, than on an e-ink display.
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Stop being cheap and get a kindle etc
There is no greater way to read, than on an e-ink display.
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Awesome idea? E-ink phone.
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I know it would. It's quite literally perfect, except for the lack of a camera. I'm planning on replacing my cell phone entirely with the 3G version (if it IS the Nexus 7 I get), so I need an amateur camera.
Thoughts, someone with a Optimus G, perhaps? The screen is the same. S3 or One X users' opinions also welcome.
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The n7 with 3g is just data. You won't be able to make phone calls. You need to use a voip app even Google talk wouldn't work
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For a dedicated e-reader (i.e., that's all you're going to do with it), get one with e-ink or similar. Really, it makes a difference. For multi-purpose use, a 7" or higher tablet with a good screen would be preferable, like others pointed out.
I read from my phone. Why does someone need a really big screen? A 4+ inch screen phone works fine. Text size can be adjusted. Having to turn pages more frequently has never bothered me. FB Reader app is great.
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partylikeaninjastar said:
I read from my phone. Why does someone need a really big screen? A 4+ inch screen phone works fine. Text size can be adjusted. Having to turn pages more frequently has never bothered me. FB Reader app is great.
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Agreed. I use my Inspire to read. I read alot too. I don't find eye strain or an issue with turning pages.
I use Aldiko reader tho.
I plan to use the N4 in the same way.
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Just pick up a used E-ink kindle. They can be had for $40-50 on craigslist quite frequently. The kindle is an excellent reading experience, pretty much the digital equivalent of a paper back. Reading on a smartphone is a miserable experience.
Seems to me reading something like a book on such a small screen would be hard.
I'll personally continue to prefer my 10.1 tab for ebook(+manga) reading, but I'll probably use my N⁴ for some occasional reads, especially when away from my tab, I'll keep them synced up.
@everybody, does somebody know of a free ebook reader that has free autosync? I know there is an app for syncing aldiko (what I use), but you have to pay for autosync, I'll probably do some googling...
I'll be using this awesome device for about everything including e-reader.
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I'll personally continue to prefer my 10.1 tab for ebook(+manga) reading, but I'll probably use my N⁴ for some occasional reads, especially when away from my tab, I'll keep them synced up.
@everybody, does somebody know of a free ebook reader that has free autosync? I know there is an app for syncing aldiko (what I use), but you have to pay for autosync, I'll probably do some googling...
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Try bookmate. Great app. Webpage you use is in Russian, but you can get around that with Google Translate. Trust me worth a try, syncs between iOS and android too. What you do, you upload book to their website, and then just pull it from there to read. Once it's on your device it'll sync. Sounds more complicated than it really is.
For anything else I prefer FBReader since it's extremely customisable.
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In the next 2-3 weeks,I will get a galaxy s3(had an s2 but it's stolen).Then I thought about getting a nexus 7 in late september when it's available in my country.It's just that I'm somewhat hesitated to get it.I think that it will be redundant with my phone in a lot of stuff but it's nice for reading and browsing internet.So what do you guys think ? Should I get the s3 and the nexus or just get the s3 and do some upgrades in my pc instead of getting the nexus ? Also would be nice to hear opinions from people who own the nexus 7 and a high-end android phone.
Thanks in forward.
I have a nexus 7 and a HTC Velocity 4G (VIVID/RAIDER) and I mostly purchased the nexus for android development and because I hate HTC sense and I wanted a pure android device, and because I'm not allowed to root my phone (work owns it).
that being said, web browsing, video watching and games are heaps better on the larger screen...
I can see myself getting a crappier phone next time, one that just focuses on having a good tether and excellent battery life, as I use the nexus for almost everything but phone and sms now.
if I had a galaxy sIII personally, I probably would not have gotten the N7, if I had an sIII with work, I probably would have gotten the nexus 7.
I have a g2x and this tablet. Not exactly high end but powerful enough. I really go back and forth. Web browsing and watching movies and reading is better on this, but mobility on my phone is superior.
Ultimately I find I'm using them for different things, which I'm glad about. Basic Web browsing is fine on my phone but videos and reading, the nexus 7 can't be beat.
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Well it depends on how much you used your android phone to start with, for apps and web browsing ect. If you used it a lot, then yeah you probably should get the N7. It's a bigger screen and easier to play some of the high end apps on.
I hardly use my Xperia for apps, web browsing and videos ect since I bought the N7. (I know its not a high end phone....... )
I have an s3 and a nexus 7. The n7 definitely has value. Its just big enough to make web browsing and things like reading ebooks comfortable. At the same time its still small enough to be quite portable. Sure on paper it doesn't seem like the screen is that much bigger but trust me the extra inch or so in both directions make a massive difference.
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Why would owning or not owning a phone affect whether or not you want a tablet?
for the record I have an s3 and an n7....
Any game you play always looks better on a bigger screen! I've fulled up my tab with games GTA / Shadow gun / Batman etc...(each have almost a gig in size data) Don't play those games on my GNEx anymore as they rape the battery. Play games on the tab now and have plenty of battery left when i'm finished the commute - to and from work! Movies and music are on the 32GB flashstick that's used using stickmount. My phone is for on the move quick surfing, calling, texting and whatsapp.
Think the combo of the GNex and Nex7 are 2 peas in a pod for me.
I have the nexus 7 and a HTC sensation. I have to admit that after getting my nexus 7 my phone only gets used to make calls or when I'm somewhere my tablet isn't. The cool thing about the nexus 7 and the s3 is NFC. But the whole beneficiary of NFC is to use it. I am constantly sending things back and forth via bluetooth and it gets annoying to have to pair them up every time. With NFC you can just beam it. Not to mention the fact that you can root your nexus 7 really easily and play around with a whole other ball park. And if I'm correct the screen resolution for wallpapers is the same so if you like making wallpapers or if your just a wallpaper junky you can use the same wallpapers without all the extra effort. I say get the nexus 7. Sure adding to your pc would be nice but how nice would it be to Web browse on the couch and do it right with a tablet rather than your phone. It's nice its comfortable and it's portable. I had the same doubts because my sensation is dual core 4.0 what could I be missing out on? Even if my phone had the same tegra 3 and 4.1 it couldn't measure up. And gaming on it is by far better than on a phone.
But it's good that you've stopped to weigh in the pros and cons. I've listed mostly good things and tried to persuade you to get it simply for that fact that I don't think you'll regret it.
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HTC Sensation 4G
T-Mobile mytouch 3G (HTC Magic) [DISCONTINUED]
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ok,guys I think you didn't get the point of my question.I know that the nexus 7 is awesome and a lot of things look better on it than on a phone,what I'm trying to say is that when I get the nexus 7,I might just use the s3(a 650$+ phone) for phone calls,listening to music,3G usage(if I'm outside and decided not to take my tablet with me) and taking pics which any mid-rage android phone can do so unless I want to show off that I got the best phone on the market,I see no reason to get the s3 if I will get the nexus 7 or vice versa.
Lennyuk said:
Why would owning or not owning a phone affect whether or not you want a tablet?
for the record I have an s3 and an n7....
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Because as I mentioned above,it may be useless to get such an expensive phone if I will do a lot of stuff like browsing,gaming,reading,watching videos on the nexus 7.Can you tell what you use ur nexus for and what you use ur s3 for ? and how often do you use both of them ?
I really don't use my phone which is the Samsung Galaxy S2 for anything since I got my Nexus 7. Unless I am out of my house other than that I'm always using my Nexus 7 its that good.
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Just get both
I got one x that I carry when I'm at work or outside and got the nexus 7 at home.
So OP just get both.
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zjed said:
Just get both
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I got one x that I carry when I'm at work or outside and got the nexus 7 at home.
So OP just get both.
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You guys are making it so simple,I like that lol.
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ok,guys I think you didn't get the point of my question.I know that the nexus 7 is awesome and a lot of things look better on it than on a phone,what I'm trying to say is that when I get the nexus 7,I might just use the s3(a 650$+ phone) for phone calls,listening to music,3G usage(if I'm outside and decided not to take my tablet with me) and taking pics which any mid-rage android phone can do so unless I want to show off that I got the best phone on the market,I see no reason to get the s3 if I will get the nexus 7 or vice versa.
Because as I mentioned above,it may be useless to get such an expensive phone if I will do a lot of stuff like browsing,gaming,reading,watching videos on the nexus 7.Can you tell what you use ur nexus for and what you use ur s3 for ? and how often do you use both of them ?
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Yea thats pretty much what I do with my S3 and N7. The S3 I use to stream music a lot and for pictures. Then at home I usually only carry around the Nexus 7 using tablet talk so i can leave my S3 in my room.
It really just depends what device you have right now. I was over my Droid charge so i needed to upgrade before unlimited data went away. Plus the S3 is so smooth and seemless. I dont charge the thing for 2 days sometimes. Its just a phone I dont have to think about. I dont have to worry about having an extended battery, or if its going to work with my current apps well.
but in a nutshell - At home in Wifi All N7.
When Out - S3..
Yea its kind of a waste to have both, but thats the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.
Its really up to you man. Nobody can make that decision but you. Yes the N7 is technically a large android phone without phone capabilities, but its soooo nice lol. I just brought my Evo LTE a few months ago and couldn't wait to get my hands on a N7. My LTE used to be my go to device but now I only find myself using it for calls and text. The 7" screen is alot bigger than it sounds so the N7 is alot better for just about everything. I'm a techie so I don't really need a reason to buy a new gadget. I upgrade pretty much every electronic device I own when I can. Next up my PC! Out with the 980x in with the 3930k! If its cool then I want it (unless its made by apple) lol.
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jaymesbry said:
Yea thats pretty much what I do with my S3 and N7. The S3 I use to stream music a lot and for pictures. Then at home I usually only carry around the Nexus 7 using tablet talk so i can leave my S3 in my room.
It really just depends what device you have right now. I was over my Droid charge so i needed to upgrade before unlimited data went away. Plus the S3 is so smooth and seemless. I dont charge the thing for 2 days sometimes. Its just a phone I dont have to think about. I dont have to worry about having an extended battery, or if its going to work with my current apps well.
but in a nutshell - At home in Wifi All N7.
When Out - S3..
Yea its kind of a waste to have both, but thats the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.
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I'm using an old nokia n81 now because my s2 was stolen,I used to use the s2 A LOT.I had to charge it once in the middle of the day and leave it charging before sleeping...Heavy usage is not good for AMOLED screens specially the one on the s2 lol.
I get this tablet in another user's post here, it comes in 2 weeks, and really good for the money.
i got it for about $69.99, but now it has dropped to €59.99, dirty cheap...
deal link
Posts some pictures and a mini review.
I am always looking for cheap tablets for people on tight budgets.
Thanks in advance!!!
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Pros:
Itś very thin and the weight is really light. iś very responsive and the android 4.0 works right. The camera is better than I expected and it does not overhead too much (and just from the right side). And of course its price , it is a real good price!!! The shippment was good, it was free and it took about 12 days to come to USA, so it was really good!!! (And it has not problem going through customs).
Cons:
Sometimes gets a little slow or freeze but not much, in theses cases you just have to wait or to close some apps and it will become normal again. You have to think that it is not a top tablet, as you can see by the screen or the graphics but anyway I have to say that both are really good for this price.
Also I have problems with the charger, it didnt work but it doesnt matter, beacuse it can be charge with a mini usb charger, so it is perfect!!!!
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Posts some pictures and a mini review.
I am always looking for cheap tablets for people on tight budgets.
Thanks in advance!!!
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You should definitely post up some pictures. I might grab one of these up.
These pics are on the website.
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No one likes stock pictures.
The resolution is so low
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Have you tried this ROM on the tablet? A friend of mine just got one as well, and I'm also thinking about it. I'd be interested in hearing the results if you try this ROM...
Anyone else get this tablet yet to post a little mini review?
My friend has done a short video unboxing/review of the tablet here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxN9wT_0wxk
It's either the very same tablet, or a nearly identical rebranded version.
Wow. $60! Yeah the screen resolution is as low as it gets but my kids don't care. I might order them for Christmas for my kids so my wife and I can use our N7s once in a while.
Does this thing has GPS receiver?
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chils41 said:
Does this thing has GPS receiver?
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Thats pretty cools idea, instead of buying GPS buy tablet with GPS, Nice big screen tether with your phone play pandora or whatvr.
richdaley said:
Wow. $60! Yeah the screen resolution is as low as it gets but my kids don't care. I might order them for Christmas for my kids so my wife and I can use our N7s once in a while.
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I upgraded to a Nexus 7 and gave this one to my lil girl. She LOVES this thing. Low resolution be damned. Temple Run and Angry Birds are her favorites. Plus I slapped a couple doodling apps on there and some educational stuff for her ABC's and numbers. It'd be a great gift.
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I upgraded to a Nexus 7 and gave this one to my lil girl. She LOVES this thing. Low resolution be damned. Temple Run and Angry Birds are her favorites. Plus I slapped a couple doodling apps on there and some educational stuff for her ABC's and numbers. It'd be a great gift.
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Thats exactly why i was looking into this. Thanks
guys do you know how I could possibly root this tablet?
I bought this tablet from aliexpress. Also $59.30 (cover and shipment to spain included). It works ok for its price, but it has no GPS (this is for the one who asked it). Now I'm trying to root it and perhaps try another rom (still looking). If anybody's got more info it would be appreciated.
battery life and screen
Those a y'all who done bought this,
What sort of battery life are you seeing? Is the screen comfortable for reading?
Thanks for your impressions!
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Those a y'all who done bought this,
What sort of battery life are you seeing? Is the screen comfortable for reading?
Thanks for your impressions!
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My impressions:
Screen: Nice and comfortable. Better than expected.
Battery: Poor life, as expected in this case.
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guys do you know how I could possibly root this tablet?
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I have one, from the same geekbuying link posted in the first post. Definitely not screaming fast (wish I could downgrade to GB), but it works. I have not had good luck with getting the Google Market to run, so I have sideloaded everything.
The good news, it is already rooted. You won't find an su type app in the app drawer, but you can run apps that require root. The thing never bothers to ask you if you will grant root to the app. It just assumes you do
I'd like to find an updated ROM, but for now, as a 1-2 app device, it does the job.
I will be getting a Nexus tablet this Xmas, it will either be 32gb N7 or 16gb N10.
I'm very torn to which I should go for.
I currently have an iPad and I'm happy to be leaving IOS but I'm not sure how I'd 7" display on the N7.
My gut feeling is N7 due to the size but I'm not sure due to the size!!!
I know indecisive but that why I'm asking for your opinions.
Thank you in advance.
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I also have a iPad and going to transfer over to the N10.. I believe you have to think about what you going to do with the device the N7 is more portable to take on the road with you .
One thing I've in the past is that once you have a large screen and you've gotten used to it if you go to a smaller screen it will feel inadequate and "too small".
I owned a Nexus One before buying the Galaxy Nexus and when I went to use my N1 again just to factory reset it, it felt like a toy.
I would say get the Nexus 10 since you were on the iPad. You'll be very much satisfied I hope! I know I'm getting the N10!
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I will be getting a Nexus tablet this Xmas, it will either be 32gb N7 or 16gb N10.
I'm very torn to which I should go for.
I currently have an iPad and I'm happy to be leaving IOS but I'm not sure how I'd 7" display on the N7.
My gut feeling is N7 due to the size but I'm not sure due to the size!!!
I know indecisive but that why I'm asking for your opinions.
Thank you in advance.
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Well the one advantage is that the 7 is sold in most tech stores, Currys/PC World, Comet (well for a while!) even tesco's sell it over the counter so go have a look at it, they are normally right next to the ipad so you can compare,
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Well the one advantage is that the 7 is sold in most tech stores, Currys/PC World, Comet (well for a while!) even tesco's sell it over the counter so go have a look at it, they are normally right next to the ipad so you can compare,
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Yep I've been in to those to have a good hands on feel, and I'm impressed. Is the N10 going to stores or is direct from Google only?
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Glennfoot said:
Yep I've been in to those to have a good hands on feel, and I'm impressed. Is the N10 going to stores or is direct from Google only?
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I heard it will be sold by WalMart, best buy, office depot and stores like that on the 14th.
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I heard it will be sold by WalMart, best buy, office depot and stores like that on the 14th.
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I'm in the UK so not sure where it will be stocked here.
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I think you are right on with the size of the N7 being one of its biggest advantages and also one its biggest disadvantages.
The cost is also something to consider, as N10 is twice as expensive as the N7.
My gf and I have a N7, also a (1G) ipad. For home use, I find the size of the ipad better. Even on the go, the screen size on the N7 is a nice step up from a phone. However, if you are like me and will always have a phone on you, the N7 for what I need to do isn't worth hauling around. The N7 is "more portable" then the N10 or iPad, but both devices can often be a pain to haul around anyway. The iPad's screen size however makes a big difference. I think I remember calculating that my GN had about half the screen area of the N7, and the N7 had about half the screen area of the iPad.
Also, the screen quality on the N7 is solid, but the screen on the N10 will obviously look much better, and will be twice as big.
In my opinion, I would go with the N10. Since you came from using the ipad, I think you would miss the size.
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I think you are right on with the size of the N7 being one of its biggest advantages and also one its biggest disadvantages.
The cost is also something to consider, as N10 is twice as expensive as the N7.
My gf and I have a N7, also a (1G) ipad. For home use, I find the size of the ipad better. Even on the go, the screen size on the N7 is a nice step up from a phone. However, if you are like me and will always have a phone on you, the N7 for what I need to do isn't worth hauling around. The N7 is "more portable" then the N10 or iPad, but both devices can often be a pain to haul around anyway. The iPad's screen size however makes a big difference. I think I remember calculating that my GN had about half the screen area of the N7, and the N7 had about half the screen area of the iPad.
Also, the screen quality on the N7 is solid, but the screen on the N10 will obviously look much better, and will be twice as big.
In my opinion, I would go with the N10. Since you came from using the ipad, I think you would miss the size.
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That's awesome feedback, real world application, which is the most important. I'm thinking that if I was getting my 1st tablet then it would be a N7 but as I'm replacing an iPad then it will have to be the N10.
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Finally made my decision, N10 is on its way, had confirmation of shipping last night.
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I'm having a similar decision problem. Being a college student I'm always on the go and thought that the nexus 7 is for me. My problem is the size of my phone. The HTC EVO 4g LTE is pretty mondo sized (4.7in) and I'm trying to decide if I should just skip the 7 completely. Another problem is the price difference and practicality.
I read a lot of PDFs (take notes from them as well), and watch a lot of YouTube lectures. I've been looking around for the 10 just so I can get a hands-on experience and comparison, but can never find a demo.
Thanks so much for the help so far on this thread! :good:
dm41nes said:
I'm having a similar decision problem. Being a college student I'm always on the go and thought that the nexus 7 is for me. My problem is the size of my phone. The HTC EVO 4g LTE is pretty mondo sized (4.7in) and I'm trying to decide if I should just skip the 7 completely. Another problem is the price difference and practicality.
I read a lot of PDFs (take notes from them as well), and watch a lot of YouTube lectures. I've been looking around for the 10 just so I can get a hands-on experience and comparison, but can never find a demo.
Thanks so much for the help so far on this thread! :good:
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I have both units now and each suits a different need.
But in a one-size-fits-all showdown, I think you're going to find the N7 is too small to really deal well with most PDF files, you'll be spending a LOT of time zooming. 3 inches of extra screen real estate and twice the pixels makes the N10 great for PDF viewing (well, as great as a 10" device can be with the PDF format).
Thanks for that feedback! As for the portability of the N10 would you say it's practical to take the $400 plunge to lug around everywhere?
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Thanks for that feedback! As for the portability of the N10 would you say it's practical to take the $400 plunge to lug around everywhere?
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I'd say it's worth it to get the Nexus 10, the nexus 10 is surprisingly light for a 10.1 inch tablet while still being well built, it's also pretty thin so think of it as carrying around a small notebook (Paper notebook). In reality it's not going to be that much more tablet to lug around then the Nexus 7, and the Nexus 10 would certainly be lighter and easier to carry around then even a comparable ultra-portable laptop of comparable size.
I was trying to decide between a Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 a short while ago... went as far as making cardboard cutouts of both just to see how they would fare with general usage. Ended up choosing the Nexus 10
I own a N7 & 10 and believe me you wanna go w the 10!!! I had probs w/ my "2" 16gb Nexus 7s.(so did tons of other ppl) Defective first and now speakers pop on mine and my sons. I take care of my devices.. Never turned volume up past 1/2. I still have 1 my son uses and if your in a room and its night time or very quiet , you can hear a pop coming from the speakers. Very annoying!! N10 has been flawless for me thus far. I have not seen any of the issues others have. No reboots...etc. I'm sure the devs will fix all that in time. Open source rules!!:
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You guys are great at marketing, I hope I have no regrets with this choice
I'll dive for the 10
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Well, maybe I'm too late but .. here are my thoughts:
Since you write that you're always on the go .. the N10 is not a tablet you quickly grab from you bag, use it, and put it back in a few seconds. It's made for the full couch experience. If you intend to mostly use it while you're sitting in the cafeteria or in a lecture etc. .. that would be not a problem at all. If you need more mobility the N7 would be the right choice, I think.
As an engineering student ill be doing a lot more sitting and reading, but I know what you mean it was a tough decision. But now I wait :thumbup:
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Here are my thoughts as I am running both an N7 and a N10.
The 7 was my first tablet and though it was the first generation, I did get the one with the loose screen. As I'm a computer geek by trade and lifestyle, i had the tools to pop it open, tighten a few screws and put it back together. The N7 has never come loose since. I keep it in a case that I originally bought for my 1st gen B&N Nook and it actually fits perfectly.
As for it's use, i have used it for everything from playing Angry birds to using it as a map for getting around Europe. It tethered to my Galaxy S3 with 0 issues and works very well and the battery life is impressive. I can get 3 full movies back to back without charging and still have enough juice to read for a couple hours. I have to say i have been thoroughly impressed by it. The N10 would have been a huge pain to try and use as a map around Europe. and it would have been a large target for thieves and muggers as well. The 7" looks like it could be anything from a tablet to a little hand written notepad esp when you are trying to find your way around somewhere. I will agree with everyone that the PDF functionality does suck and as the only thing i keep in PDF are manuals, then yes having the N10 would be better and yes the 1st gen did come with a loose side but as i said i'm a computer geek and it was an easy fix for me. And i do still use it to read books lol. My gf also bought herself one and uses it daily for ready, games and internet, she loves it.
As far as an overall rating the only downs being the screen and the pdf issue. I give it a 9 out of 10 because i don't see these issues as major things. I also never had any speaker issues.
Now as to the N10 I only got it last night and so i haven't had time to do much more than root, unlock the device and add a few things too it. But this morning i was able to show it off the a MD of the company I work for and show him how well it works as well as buy an "office suite" for 99 cents and be able to build files that were already MS office 2010 compatible. The quality of the screen is beautiful and the ability to read comic books as well as pdf is nice. I also intend in time to use this to replace my 1.5 year old laptop. (though nothing wrong with it) i can run citrix through Android and all i really need is a working keyboard. (though I would like a usb to BT transmitter, never seen one though) because i love my ergo split keyboards, hate typing on regular ones.
As for the N10 functionality, so far it's used all the stuff i have on both my S3 and my N7 without question (minus stickmount). I'm going to see if my Sirius satellite radio app works and that way i can use the company wifi to list to my radio account like i do on my phone. So far it's pretty good but but i'll give you more thoughts when i have used it.
Don't see how some people are on the fence. The screen alone is worth the price of admission. Pictures and videos look very sharp and realistic. Other than that it's super fast, and very light.
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Im considering getting one tomorrow.
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I'm curious on how much better the Kindle Fire HD 2's hardware will be.
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Im considering getting one tomorrow.
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Go for its a good deal and product.
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Screen and dual speakers. Enough said.
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I'm curious on how much better the Kindle Fire HD 2's hardware will be.
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Rumor is SD 800
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Rumor is SD 800
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I know the rumors which is why I'm curious...
Kindles suck. If you don't root, the only thing they have going for them
Is prime video. The launcher sucks, the app content on the amazon appstore is laughable. I'd buy the n7 I bet the specs aren't far off and you get an aosp tablet with the latest upgrades
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Kindles suck. If you don't root, the only thing they have going for them
Is prime video. The launcher sucks, the app content on the amazon appstore is laughable. I'd buy the n7 I bet the specs aren't far off and you get an aosp tablet with the latest upgrades
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I don't like them either, but I doubt that they "suck". Not everyone uses a tablet the same way as you do. Some people who are wedded to Amazon's ecosystem will simply never leverage the full capabilities of a "stock" Android ecosystem. Sure, the Kindle locks down a lot of things (a little a la iOS), but as we've seen both approaches can be successful with consumers.
Actually just returned mine back to BestBuy. At the end of the day I really didn't/don't need a tablet. Convinced myself that I did and had this bug to go get one (combined with all the hype). Fine, got one and then what... I already have a Note 2 that I do most stuff on, so this would just be a stretched out duplicatory device in the end.
If I didn't already have the Note 2 I would have kept it. Nice screen, easy to hold in one hand etc, but honestly it would have ended up just being used when on the toilet..
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If I didn't already have the Note 2 I would have kept it. Nice screen, easy to hold in one hand etc, but honestly it would have ended up just being used when on the toilet..
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I guess a gnote2 is nearly a tablet. Still, I think it makes a lot of sense to carry around a small tablet like the n7 so you can really immerse yourself in media (movies, reading, games) and have your smart phone for communication purposes, which also means for battery saving purposes. I know that the Note 2 has a huge battery, but not one sufficiently large to negate the benefit of having a secondary device for entertainment purposes. Another thing that comes to mind is that it's simply convenient to be able to make or receive a phone call or respond to a facebook message without interrupting your current game session and having to switch to a different app (as you would have to if you relied on a single device for all your technology needs at a given moment).
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Don't see how some people are on the fence. The screen alone is worth the price of admission. Pictures and videos look very sharp and realistic. Other than that it's super fast, and very light.
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I already have the Nook HD+ 32gb for $80 less and has SD slot, plus dead simple to root and mod. Literally as easy as rebooting with an sd card to root and flash the roms.
Too many game roms, media and comics to not have the 64gb card in place. Clouds are not practical compared to local storage.
Still, I am tempted. Just not seeing how $80 more and less storage makes sense. I compared them a lot, but game emulators, media and comics perform the same. Difference in favor for comics goes to the Nook and newer 3D games like Asphalt 7 and Nova 3 go to the N7.
If the N7 had an sd slot, I would agree already.
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Actually just returned mine back to BestBuy. At the end of the day I really didn't/don't need a tablet. Convinced myself that I did and had this bug to go get one (combined with all the hype). Fine, got one and then what... I already have a Note 2 that I do most stuff on, so this would just be a stretched out duplicatory device in the end.
If I didn't already have the Note 2 I would have kept it. Nice screen, easy to hold in one hand etc, but honestly it would have ended up just being used when on the toilet..
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I've got a Note 2 and an Asus Infinity (10.1" tablet), but i still bought the '13 N7. No, I never use all 3 at once. Actually, I'll probably never use just 1 as much as most people who don't have multiple devices. That said, they each have their strong points, and I use them each in different situations. Just depends on what I'm wanting to do at the moment. Everyone has their own wants an needs though, sorry that it didn't work out for ya.
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I have looked at the specs and it seems the Amazon Kindle HDX 7" is as good or better on paper than the Nexus 7 2013. I also presume it does not suffer from the screen touch issues that the Nexus suffers from.
Are there any distinguishing differences between the two devices that make one better than the other?
For one I wouldn't want to run that whacky Amazon OS
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For one I wouldn't want to run that whacky Amazon OS
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I quite agree. The Kindle fire HD does have good specs, but the nexus comes about as stock as you can get and you can't really put a price on that.
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I quite agree. The Kindle fire HD does have good specs, but the nexus comes about as stock as you can get and you can't really put a price on that.
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I am new to all this, but is it not possible to get rid of the stock ROM and install CM on the Kindle and then we do not have to worry about the Amazon OS anymore and all we have left to compare is specs and quality ?
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I am new to all this, but is it not possible to get rid of the stock ROM and install CM on the Kindle and then we do not have to worry about the Amazon OS anymore and all we have left to compare is specs and quality ?
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Yeah absolutely, or Xposed.
I'm looking at the two side by side on GSM Arena (www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idphone1=5727&idphone25600) and in realism there isn't much in it; Snapdragon 800 / S4 Pro, 0.5GHz on the clock speed, Andreno 330 / Andreno 320. On paper I don't think there's much difference in them at all, you're right .
I would wager the deveoplement support for the Nexus is going to be a bit better, as the Nexus really is a development platform so to speak. So the ROM/Xposed module/Kernel /modding releases are going to me be more think and fast. But that's about all I can see.
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Yeah absolutely, or Xposed.
I'm looking at the two side by side on GSM Arena (www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idphone1=5727&idphone25600) and in realism there isn't much in it; Snapdragon 800 / S4 Pro, 0.5GHz on the clock speed, Andreno 330 / Andreno 320. On paper I don't think there's much difference in them at all, you're right .
I would wager the deveoplement support for the Nexus is going to be a bit better, as the Nexus really is a development platform so to speak. So the ROM/Xposed module/Kernel /modding releases are going to me be more think and fast. But that's about all I can see.
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Actually the Kindle's CPU is well faster, from 1.5GHz to 2.2GHz that is a 47% improvement.
The Nexus 7 has screen issues - thousands of posts on that. I had thought my Nexus was OK because I only bought it a few weeks ago, but I did the test today and mine also misses touches. I am not really planning to play games with it, but I am thinking why bother with a problematic device.
[QUOT=Zilliman;49158138]Actually the Kindle's CPU is well faster, from 1.5GHz to 2.2GHz that is a 47% improvement.
The Nexus screen issues - thousands of posts on that. I had thought my Nexus was OK because I only boKindle t a few weeks ago, but I did the test today and mine also misses touches. I am not really planning to play games with it, but I am thinking why bother with a problematic device.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I got my numbers mixed up, it is a 0.7 GHz hike, not 0.5.
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device as there are millions of units that have not suffered any problems. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
The Kindle fire XHD does look very good on paper, but there may be hidden issues with that too. I'd like to try one out though.
I previously owned a kindle fire hd and boy was it a pain in the butt. Having to install a second bootloader to get a custom recovery was a hassle. Development wouldn't have been possible without Hashcode's work. Though once you get through all that, it really is a nifty device.
Now I'm not sure if the HDX is any easier to tinker with, but nothing beats the ease of rooting and flashing on a Nexus device.
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... but nothing beats the ease of rooting and flashing on a Nexus device.
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For most people, myself included, that's case in point right there.
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Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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[QUOT=Zilliman;49158138]Actually the Kindle's CPU is well faster, from 1.5GHz to 2.2GHz that is a 47% improvement.
The Nexus screen issues - thousands of posts on that. I had thought my Nexus was OK because I only boKindle t a few weeks ago, but I did the test today and mine also misses touches. I am not really planning to play games with it, but I am thinking why bother with a problematic device.
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Yeah I got my numbers mixed up, it is a 0.7 GHz hike, not 0.5.
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device as there are millions of units that have not suffered any problems. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
The Kindle fire XHD does look very good on paper, but there may be hidden issues with that too. I'd like to try one out though.[/QUOTE]
Does yours miss a touch if you are holding it in one hand? Apparently the problem only manifests itself if you are NOT holding it (some kind of earthing issue).
I prefer the slim shape of the Nexus 7 to the wider Kindle HDX that's for sure.
What I am currently p*ssed off about is the inability of the stupid Nexus to make phone calls. Really annoying.
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Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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Can you please tell me what exact tests did you run before you returned your devices? Was the tablet held in one hand or was it laying on a table? Did you try the three point touch at 90 degrees test or some other type of test ? For example if the tablet is resting on my lap there are no issues with the 3 point touch test and the device correctly registers 3 points, but as soon as I place it on the couch the problem is immediately obvious and at 90 degrees the device misses one point.
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Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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I doubt any Nexus owner necessarily "accepts" the screen issues, but many have certainly learned to live with the odd missed touch. This kind of thing can and does happen on many touchscreen devices, it happens from time to time on my Galaxy Note too. In fact it happens about as regularly as it does on the Nexus, which I would say is about once in every 70-100 touches I would guess. On my Nex it only happens when it is lying flat for some reason, the rest of the time it's touch perfect.
A problematic device to me is one that has no end of troubles, processor lag, screen issues, touch issues, charging issues, hardware and software faults. The Nexus has one or two rough edges, but on top of those it's a very capable little tablet.
I understand what you mean about the Nexus brand slipping because people are putting up with faults when they should be speaking out, but people are speaking out about the screen issues. The only thing we can do I hope that the manufactures listen and make the changes needed for the next one.
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purephysics
Well I don't think it fair to call the Nexus 7 a problematic device. And though mine misses the odd touch in landscape view its fine otherwise.
Really? That is a definition of something that is problematic.
It is because of this acceptance of a known problem by so many users that makes Nexus feel it not necessary to correct it. I tried and returned 3 Units none of which of their screens responded even close to my original Nexus 7. Its too bad because other than that it had great potential.
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I think its really unfortunate that some people won't buy this because other people are loudly complaining. I'm sure some people have legit problems but I also think others go out of their way to try to find problems. I don't think I've ever owned a PERFECT electronic device of any sort, even my Apple products have sometimes been less than perfect and they are the poster child for no issues.
If you have a tablet with problems and you don't notice the problems, doesn't that mean the problems don't exist?
Back on topic, I think if you want the latest updates it's a no brainer, go with Nexus. If you don't update and don't customize, well maybe go with the kindle?
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I don't think I've ever owned a PERFECT electronic device of any sort, even my Apple products have sometimes been less than perfect and they are the poster child for no issues.
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I quite agree, perfection in electronics is very often user defined. The Nexus to me isn't a perfect device, not because of the screen issues, but because of the lack of expandable storage. But I get over that with an OTG cable, so no sweat.
What qualifies as perfect to one person is terrible to another.
and back onto subject; the HDX sure looks like a fantastic device, but I'm more than happy with my Nexus 7 and even if I saw the HDX first I'm sure I would have still picked the Nexus. Specs on paper only mean so much.
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I quite agree, perfection in electronics is very often user defined. The Nexus to me isn't a perfect device, not because of the screen issues, but because of the lack of expandable storage. But I get over that with an OTG cable, so no sweat.
What qualifies as perfect to one person is terrible to another.
and back onto subject; the HDX sure looks like a fantastic device, but I'm more than happy with my Nexus 7 and even if I saw the HDX first I'm sure I would have still picked the Nexus. Specs on paper only mean so much.
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I think there are thousands of users with problem screens, and mine (which I very recently discovered suffers too) is not just a coincidence. I now believe the problem exists on all tablets regardless if the users have discovered it or not.
We also know that this only happens if the tablet is not held, is not resting on your lap and is not connected to USB. So there must be thousands of users that have not seen the problem because let's admit it, most of the times you'd be holding the tablet in your hands.
The more important fault is that the screen develops hairline cracks which disable touch in various areas completely! The only solution is to replace the screen/tablet. Judging from the reviews on Amazon, apparently the screen is very sensitive to knocks and to flexing, and develops these imperceptible cracks and touch stops working often without realising why.
In general I think the screen is too important a component to just ignore it.
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I'm sure some people have legit problems but I also think others go out of their way to try to find problems.
Back on topic, I think if you want the latest updates it's a no brainer, go with Nexus. If you don't update and don't customize, well maybe go with the kindle?
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Yes, people do have a legit problem and you don't have to go out of your way to find it, just attempt to use the device as it was intended.
For you to compare a lack of storage (which hopefully you were intelligent enough to notice when you purchased it) to a defective screen is complete Idiocracy.
Do I expect perfection? No. Do I expect the screen to respond at least as well as my first generation Nexus 7? Absolutely.
Back on topic: If you want a screen that responds like a Walmart $59 tablet its a no brainer get the Nexus.
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I recently received my Nexus 7 for Christmas. My only other tablet was a first generation Kindle Fire. I requested the Nexus 7 because of its Android updates, price, and specs. It offered me everything I was looking for and I did my research, trust me. I am not a specs fanatic by any means, but the Nexus 7 runs buttery smooth for everything I do. I couldn't be happier. I was not interested in another round of Amazon's version of Android. While the HDX may be a beast specs wise, I didn't want to put up the effort to root, unlock, and custom mod. I enjoy that to extent as my Kindle is currently running KitKat and finally working decent for its age, but I wanted a strong tablet without the hassle and the Nexus has brought that to me. And that's coming from an Amazon junkie. Absolutely love the Nexus.
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For what it's worth, I haven't been able to reproduce any of the touch issues that I've read other people complaining about, regardless of whether I'm actually holding the tablet or not. I have noticed that the touchscreen seems to be slightly less sensitive than the one on my first gen Nexus 7, but it's never been a problem for me in actual use.
YAMTT shows all 10 touch points while my N7 is laying on my bed, and I can draw basically perfect squares and circles, even with multiple fingers at once. I could just be lucky though.
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For me , the specs of the nexus 7 are fine for me. Everything I have used runs smoothly and for my uses (entertainment, and such) I do not need a faster spec device, since I do not game and dont demand a lot of CPU usage (if that makes sense). Also, one main reason I got the nexus 7 is for development because I love trying out different ROMs and just recently got into using different kernals. The development of any nonnexus device just can't compare to the development of a nexus device.
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