So Where Are The Windows 8 Tablets? - Windows 8 General

In the US, can you actually buy Windows 8 tablets? Only tablets I see in stock are Surface (online only) and Asus Vivo Tab...both are RT.
There is one atom tablet released so far, Samsung Ativ, but looks like Samsung has stopped the shipments as no store has received any sick in weeks.
I'd think companies would've been ready to release their tablets for Windows 8.

http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/tablet/thinkpad/thinkpad-tablet-2/
Coming November 16th

Good to know, according to Microsoft store it's $700, to expensive for a atom tablet.

Buy a windows 7 tab and upgrade. I got an Acer W500 for $300. Put win 8 on it. And its awesome. A buddy got a Sammy Series 7, did same thing. Awesome and lower cost just my 2 cents
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BeADroid said:
Buy a windows 7 tab and upgrade. I got an Acer W500 for $300. Put win 8 on it. And its awesome. A buddy got a Sammy Series 7, did same thing. Awesome and lower cost just my 2 cents
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Where did you get that Acer...I looked everywhere and could not find one for that price lol
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yumms said:
Good to know, according to Microsoft store it's $700, to expensive for a atom tablet.
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The $700 is for the version with the pen. $600 is expensive for a 64 gig Tegra 3 tablet, $700 for a new version of Atom that outperforms it and also has a Wacom pen isn't that bad.
It runs all your x86 apps, and you get the ThinkPad build quality.

KitF said:
The $700 is for the version with the pen. $600 is expensive for a 64 gig Tegra 3 tablet, $700 for a new version of Atom that outperforms it and also has a Wacom pen isn't that bad.
It runs all your x86 apps, and you get the ThinkPad build quality.
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The "ThinkPad build quality" is suspect, the Android Thinkpad was horribly built, check out their forums with all the complaints.
Samsung Ativ and Acer W510 are cheaper with the same performance.

Pixa241 said:
Where did you get that Acer...I looked everywhere and could not find one for that price lol
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Ebay baby!!! just keep looking.

BeADroid said:
Buy a windows 7 tab and upgrade. I got an Acer W500 for $300.
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I did the same earlier this year - but cannot recommend it anymore. It was one of the best options at the time... but not now!
-No snapping of apps due to low resolution
-Poor battery
-Hot and loud
-Atrocious build quality (volume rocker no longer works)
-Fiddly driver installation for gyro (for rotating your screen)
-Terrible keyboard dock
-The whole device feels very plasticy and cheap
-Weak processor often cannot play 720p .mkvs without unacceptable skipping/lag
-Heavy and thick
-Touch screen will gain permanent "push" marks on it
I've had a blast with it over the year, from consumer preview all the way to RTM, but the device certainly won't last. I'm looking to upgrade, possibly to the Surface Pro.
Anyway, I've made a little comparison of tablets on my OneNote, and here's a view-only link to the table:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?page=view&resid=5304A0F127ADA4A1!6466&authkey=!APoZUZMhsksoqf0
I think you'll need a Microsoft account to view it, but you should already have that if you're planning on having a Windows 8 device. The table mostly has tablets with 10.6-11.6" screens. Details are scarce for the 10.1" ones since I'm not too interested in them.

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Upset/intrigued by Series 5 Hybrid?

I do not know what to make of the "sneek peak"
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/27/samsung-series-5-teaser
Has S-Pen support and S-memo. Being that Windows can run Android apps, and the physical specs are just about the same, I dont know what to make of this.
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I do not know what to make of the "sneek peak"
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/27/samsung-series-5-teaser
Has S-Pen support and S-memo. Being that Windows can run Android apps, and the physical specs are just about the same, I dont know what to make of this.
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What is upsetting? It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
mitchellvii said:
What is upsetting? It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
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Thats what I am hoping for. But the specs say only 100gs heavier, same thickness. Mine is mostly for school and work, so it would make more sense to have a more productive device(s-pen is the reason we all love this tablet, isnt it?)
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It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
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Excellent. More definitive insider info! What is the price going to be on it?
mitchellvii said:
What is upsetting? It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
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It also depends on what your weighting of various features are. Obviously running native MS Office and Outlook is a huge benefit as is SharePoint access and OneNote. At the end of the day it's still a Windows PC which, unless things change dramatically, aren't very good consumption devices. I replaced my HTPC with Google TV's for the simplicity and broader content support. If you use your tablet for consumption in the 30% and below range W8 is probably a better choice. I'm probably about 60% consumption 40% productivity and am fine with Android for now. And it's not like you have to buy a W8 Pro device on the day they come out or lose the opportunity. Having suffered through V1 of plenty of h/w and s/w there's something to be said for letting others go first. And here’s hoping that with the introduction of a Windows-based version of S-Note that Samsung comes up with a way of sharing what’s created with Android S-Note with Windows-PC’s.
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Excellent. More definitive insider info! What is the price going to be on it?
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People use common sense. If it is going to have an Intel CPU, a larger HD screen and pen input it is going to cost MUCH more. Those components aren't free.
If a tablet had the same components as a $1000 ultrabook and includes pen input it is going to cost what an ultrabook costs. It won't be $500.
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Be happy with what you got and when that bridge is there to be crossed in reality then decide to cross it or not. I love my note!
When you are driving your new BMW don't look at every Porsche that drives by costing $30k more and wring your hands saying, "Oh I should have gotten that for what I paid for this!"
Just enjoy your BMW.
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Well, I was peeking too, BUT I have to see it, feel it, touch it before I would consider a FULL Win8 Tab (NOT RT-version which does not have any benefit over Android).
It has to endure easily 12 hours like my N10.1 and has to perfom in the same smoothness and reliability.
I am an "early adopter" but with Win8 I have to read a lot of reports and see a lot of hardware tests before it convince me to buy a Win8-slate.
It is so much at the beginning, will be full of bugs and promises of added functionality in the FUTURE that I will wait for the official "Surface"-Tab and then compare to the Win8-Sammy-Tab and then maybe in one year decide upon a Win8-Tablet when "Surface 2" will be issued.
Yes, I love my Note i-717 and 10.1. i will be waiting for the livestreams that stat in 2.5 hrs for the Note 2.
I did use my note 10.1 in class yday9marketing) and the professor mention apple and he made me show the whole class the note and I explain how the patent messed up our S-Memo! I did copy the part of the sylabus where it states to write your preferend name, occupation and picture, then took one with my FFC and sent it to him during class. So yes I love it.
The car analogy is a good one. I have an 04 Q45 premium(had an 03 as well, RIP) and it still holds it own vs alot of newer cars. Do i sometimes desire a 7 series? yes, but i dont have 750Il money..Andi dont driver people around for a living(I have reclining rear seats). But i do use this device for my work email as well. It would be very impressive when i go to all the major banks during pricing etc and just whip out my Note and mark up the pdf that takes them forever to print, hand out, then revise to print out again. I would love to do some modeling in excel as well, Polaris seems a bit too clunky to do it seriously.
The thing is people like myself are the first to actually be productive with a device other than a BB. Its scary to those around who dont understand, and needs flawless execution or people wont see the point. My boss litterally was upset that i have my work email on my note, cuz they also gave me a BB. But im in a very small group that is testing out the system.
I will probally keep the note 10.1 and try and convice them to buy me the Series 5 for work. have to show its worth first though. Hopefully once the Wifi in the building is up, people will see a tablet can be much more than an iPad. Time will tell.
Well, this is the Windows 8 tablet that I will be purchasing.
With Clovertrail SoC (yes, it is Atom processor)... with faster + better GPU over ARM SoC atm (http://androidandme.com/2012/08/sma...e-fastest-android-phone-next-month-in-london/).... although, I have to see how S4 Pro looks like.... this should be a winner. The battery life should be on par with ARM counterparts (I doubt it will be better but it should compete in the department).
Keyboard + S-Pen (the same one as Galaxy Note 10.1).... this seems like a winner to me... out of all W8 tablets so far. Now.. the main question is the price... it won't be as cheap as ARM Android tablets but it shouldn't cost more than Ultrabooks with i5+ in it....
As for anything WinRT (unless Surface is released at the rumored $200 price)... it should be avoided at all cost when it launches.
Edit: Nvm.. they did announce the price... $649 for 64g SSD + 2gb RAM.... $749 with keyboard...
So, $50 cheaper than 64gb iPad.. & $100 more over 32gb Galaxy Note 10.1
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Well, this is the Windows 8 tablet that I will be purchasing.
With Clovertrail SoC (yes, it is Atom processor)... with faster + better GPU over ARM SoC atm (http://androidandme.com/2012/08/sma...e-fastest-android-phone-next-month-in-london/).... although, I have to see how S4 Pro looks like.... this should be a winner. The battery life should be on par with ARM counterparts (I doubt it will be better but it should compete in the department).
Keyboard + S-Pen (the same one as Galaxy Note 10.1).... this seems like a winner to me... out of all W8 tablets so far. Now.. the main question is the price... it won't be as cheap as ARM Android tablets but it shouldn't cost more than Ultrabooks with i5+ in it....
As for anything WinRT (unless Surface is released at the rumored $200 price)... it should be avoided at all cost when it launches.
Edit: Nvm.. they did announce the price... $649 for 64g SSD + 2gb RAM.... $749 with keyboard...
So, $50 cheaper than 64gb iPad.. & $100 more over 32gb Galaxy Note 10.1
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I may be returning the note and repurchasing until this comes out so i may still return if this is a better product. The width seems a bit much, but like i said, it seems to add MUCH more capability(you can run android on windows anyway) for $100 more? Why wouldnt I want to?
It never ends does it lol.
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It never ends does it lol.
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I just hope it runs like crap or has short battery life, somehting to make me NOT WANT IT. I do love the 10.1 after not charging for days and after 2 classes, was warning me to charge it. It still had 9 hrs left LOL
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I just hope it runs like crap or has short battery life, somehting to make me NOT WANT IT. I do love the 10.1 after not charging for days and after 2 classes, was warning me to charge it. It still had 9 hrs left LOL
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Lol, expected to be on 9hr+ battery life on single charge. See how it goes once it gets released.....
Otherwise, FULL OS with x86..... & Galaxy Note 10.1 apps..... (and if you really think about it.. if Note 10.1 has 64gb.. it will only be $50 more...)
Only disappointment from IFA so far... lack of Samsung's A15 dual-core SoC. I was expecting Samsung's WinRT tab to be on A15 SoC.. but bleh.. it is on S4 dual-core. Not that I was going to purchase the A15 WinRT tab.... but... yea, was hoping to see that SoC to make a presence in some form of h/w.
There is some serious potential here. If this has a port for an external monitor and other peripherals (aka laptop replacement), then I just might have to return my Note. That $700 price tag is gonna sting though, $1K if I get series 7 with 128GB.
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There is some serious potential here. If this has a port for an external monitor and other peripherals (aka laptop replacement), then I just might have to return my Note. That $700 price tag is gonna sting though, $1K if I get series 7 with 128GB.
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As far as I understand.. it does....
Also comes with USB 3.0 support I believe (at least on the keyboard dock.. i think)...
With $650 as the base price for 64gb SSD model ... I think we can expect other OEMs to release their W8 tablets around $550 to $600 range (don't think any of them will be priced higher over Samsung or Sony for that matter).... This is the price range I expected for the Clovertrail tablets & it's a great value. Now.. since none of us have one in hand.. we won't know how it will actually perform in the real world yet... but that's serious potential with great value.
As for WinRT tablets.... I should expect a $400 price range... but with W8 Clovertrail/Trinity tablets being around $550 to $650 range... & with very very limited ecosystem... I don't expect that to do well at all.
Btw, I don't think Series 7 or any other i5+ W8 tablets are worth the money. Cost too much... & for that.. to do serious work, you really need a bigger screen. Series 7 & other Intel i5+ tablets also have "fan" included with crap battery life (will weight just as much as ultrabook with keyboard dock).... not much benefit over Ultrabooks. Better to purchase Ultrabooks over i5+ W8 tablets.... W8 Ultrabooks will come in Touchscreen, Discrete GPU, much more storage... & can expand the RAM if needed (cheaper too).
I think the Series 5 throws a HUGE wrench into the works.
What's the point in a Note 10.1, when for a few dollars more I can have the same WACOM stylus input on a Windows machine that gets the same battery life and has 100% MS Office compatibility?
I purchased the Note 10.1 as an e-ink device, to go paperless. This device works, but I am always having to take extra steps to get documents synced to the cloud. I want an all-in-one solution that is seemless, integrated with MS Word, and doesn't cost $1k+.
What advantage does the Note 10.1 have over this new Series 5 other than a $150.00 cheaper pricepoint?
I hope the user experience isn't too terrible with the Atom CPU like it was with netbooks. Unless I specifically need x86 compatibility I'm not too excited about returning to the bloat, unreliability, poor user experience, relatively mediocre battery life, heat output, high maintenance, etc. of Windows. Plus, I use Google Voice for SMS and calls so the GN 10.1 is constantly running in low power with great battery life. My Thinkpad with 8-cell high capacity battery seems to drain a lot faster just being in hibernate doing absolutely nothing.
It sounds good, but I can guarantee the price will make it non-competitive with the Note 10.1. Same with the Surface tabs when they come, I can practically guarantee the Surface Pro (the only model that can really compete with the N8013) will be $700-1000.
I was strongly considering a Surface tablet before jumping on the Note 10.1 ship but I'm more than happy with the N8013, it does everything I need it to do and nothing more and nothing less. Anything more, I have my laptop. Anything less and I'd have just bought an iPad again.

who will migrate to 10

Just asking, who will upgrade to nexus 10. I will just because my mom agreed to buy it as my present.
My concern is.
- big resolution, will there be any apps compatibility issue?
- bigger screen. Harder to hold and heavier.
Thought? Who else here will buy nexus 10 or trade their n7 for it?
Will just have both.The N7 is great on the go (won't do without it ) and the N10 will do more couch duty with it's big lovely screen. :laugh:
I'd consider trading my N7 for one, but I don't think it'll happen. I don't think anyone would pay "much" for a 8GB model. And I don't have the money to just buy a N10 :/
No.
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I'm just about to migrate to the nexus 7 32gb soon!
Can't wait already...selling my Asus transformer any day now. I tried a friends nexus 7 at work last week and I was sold.
Love the 7 inch form factor. Just the portability of the device is what got me.
The nexus 10 looks awesome...especially with that display resolution and the cortex a15 dual exynos. However, I think the 7 inch form factor is the one for me for now.
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Yes - I plan to do exactly that - provided the build quality is good, and once the teething issues around supply etc are dealt with.
I'm migrating to a 32gb N10.
Thinking about passing down the 7 to another family member and grabbing a 10. I think I will have to wait a while for the pricing to make sense though.
Nexus 7 16 gb ===> 32 = $50
Nexus 10 16 gb ===> 32 = $100
That's the annoying old school Apple pricing there. Annoying, everyone in the world knows that that memory costs $5. Was happy with the new pricing thresholds for the Nexus 7, I assume the 10 will follow suit eventually. Probably when competitors get closer in specs.
Fun to say but the ipad mini format would have been the best of both world.
with 1920*1200 resolution.
I keep my Nexus 7 16gig, i can bring it everywhere !
Im just pissed off at Google for dropping what I paid for a 16GB, to the price of an 8GB weeks after purchasing it.... They said try to claim a price match or something, but I don't know how.
You do realise the Nexus 10 is the lightest and thinnest 10" tablet on the market. It also runs android (obviously ) which works with most screen resolution. I'm sure Google thought it through with 4.2.
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Im just pissed off at Google for dropping what I paid for a 16GB, to the price of an 8GB weeks after purchasing it.... They said try to claim a price match or something, but I don't know how.
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Exactly the same feeling, I bought 16GB, would definitely wait for the 32GB + 3G if I knew. I have 10" eeePad Transformer, Nexus 7 is just big enough and much more comfortable to use.
It would be better if they would put this Hi-res displays to notebooks instead of tablets :laugh:
I'd love to play around with the 10 but with that resolution it's awesome but at the same time I'd want to watch media on it and it's already a pain to have a 7" with a usb stick hanging out, imagine a 10" with a usb stick hanging out.
The 7 has been an awesome road warrior. Works great as a stand along GPS on the road minus the polarized effect but I just use it as a gps in portrait mode.
hmmm..i do have a galaxy 10.1 that needs replacing but I honestly wanted to make my 10" something along the lines of a windows 8 pro tablet/hybrid but damn those things will be double the price of a nexus 10 for the i5 models. =(
I'm tempted by a 10, not to replace my 7 but my iPad 2. Think I can probably sell my iPad for a reasonable amount on eBay.
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Thinking about passing down the 7 to another family member and grabbing a 10. I think I will have to wait a while for the pricing to make sense though.
Nexus 7 16 gb ===> 32 = $50
Nexus 10 16 gb ===> 32 = $100
That's the annoying old school Apple pricing there. Annoying, everyone in the world knows that that memory costs $5. Was happy with the new pricing thresholds for the Nexus 7, I assume the 10 will follow suit eventually. Probably when competitors get closer in specs.
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It is not exactly as you think.. Google is bearing a loss with 16gb version, not making profit. So extra 100 dollars cost is not actually for memory upgrade. Its stepping up from loss to profit.. Same applies for Nexus4 also..
yes that's what come to my mind.
basically my "gadget lover" instinct tell me to get nexus 10. But then i'm in the middle of choosing in-between because I feel that 2 tablet is useless. I try to ask myself "what is your need?" , but I realise that, it's not about need, it's about "lust". Nexus 7 is really awesome for portability, i bring it everywhere but Nexus 10 has 2500x1600 resolution, front speaker, gorilla glass 2, 9000mAH battery, and NEW. And if i do get N10, i rather sell my 16gb N7 for 200$ (comes with screen protector and 2 smart case) so i could buy accessories for N10 or add another 185$ to buy nexus 4.. So now i'm in doubt, if i don't get N10 when it released, i won't be able to get it at all since this is supposed to be my b'day present.
i love my nexus 7 sizes... i think that 10 is too much
already have a 10"..and considering the fact for me a tablet is not a must have..but only a plus to play with,i have no need to upgrade my eeepad transfomer with a nexus 10.i 100% keep my nexus7.when i went to shop for buy the n7,i was tempting to buy a gnote 10.1...but after a bit of thinking,i choose the n7 for the size screen.i rarely go out home with tablets,and if i do,i'll go with the nexus7.if i'd buy nexus10 it would stay always at home.full satisfied with my 7 and 10" tablets
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I'd love to play around with the 10 but with that resolution it's awesome but at the same time I'd want to watch media on it and it's already a pain to have a 7" with a usb stick hanging out, imagine a 10" with a usb stick hanging out.
The 7 has been an awesome road warrior. Works great as a stand along GPS on the road minus the polarized effect but I just use it as a gps in portrait mode.
hmmm..i do have a galaxy 10.1 that needs replacing but I honestly wanted to make my 10" something along the lines of a windows 8 pro tablet/hybrid but damn those things will be double the price of a nexus 10 for the i5 models. =(
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USB out of the nexus 7? I currently have a Acer a500 and thinking about going to nexus 7. Where are you plugging this USB into?
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USB comes from an OTG cable (microUSB > Full USB). Search Amazon for them.
I'm good with a 7". I had my Asus Transformer 10" and I loved it but it was just a little too big. I wanted to upgrade to a Tegra3 but didn't see it worthwhile just replacing it with another 10" tablet (Asus TF300). I bought my son a used Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" and I LOVED the size. Fortunately I held out and found the N7. It had all the great features (minus HDMI )I wanted but in a 7" form factor. Plus a price point that was great. I sold my Transformer for $225 and picked up a N7.
Most users here HAD a 10" and downsized to a 7" because we preferred the smaller size.

On the fence about getting the new Note 10.1 2014 Edition

I am in love with this tablet. It checks on pretty much everything that I'm looking for. But one thing is holding me back from jumping the gun on October 10..... the price.
550 for a 16gb and 600 for a 32gb sounds like a no brainer. But I feel that it's a no small pocket change to drop on a tablet. I know the screen is crazy good and the s pen makes it head and shoulders over what's currently available. But I keep on trying to justify the reasoning for the 600 price tag.
I believe the thing that I keep going back to is the lack of tablet optimized apps for Android. Don't get me wrong, I've been pro android since the htc hd2, and I been through my share of samsung devices (got the note 2, 1st day it launched) . But I also had the original galaxy tab 10.1 and chose to get it early and paid the premium for it. Then it seemed within less than 4 months, the price dropped and continued to do so. And even though it was great for consuming videos and browsing the web I felt like the majority of the apps just didn't either scaled properly to the 10.1 form factor, or they weren't as polished as the iPad apps are.
I waited last week, to see what Microsoft was going to do with their newly redesigned surface pro 2, but it failed to excite me unlike the new 10.1 note is doing. If I could dual boot jellybean and windows on the surface pro 2, i'd probably look into that.
Maybe things have changed for the better on the tablet side for Android apps. But i ultimately ended up giving the tablet to my grandfather so he could Skype his grandkids and watch football. I just want to see what you guys's reasons were for being excited and early adopters and paying the premium price for early adoption.
Thx for reading the lengthy post,
Eddie
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Well for some, myself included, this is a luxury item and think the slight increase in price from last years model isn't that bad. For your money you would be buying the best tablet available (imo) and it will be quite the beast for your daily consumption, and it will also last for years. Its really a laptop without the keyboard that has much better battery life and is more portable in the scheme of things. I'm not a laptop person and rather a tablet for the things I want to do.Since Android is taking tablets serious these days its gotten and will be much better in the future since its proving to not be a niche item any longer. I'm really anxious to start seeing reviews in the next week or so in the meanwhile..... I guess you have some deciding to do and I just wanted to chime in.
I too am not a laptop person. I was taken back a little bit by the price when it was announced. I was hoping for the 32GB to be around $550. For me the extra $50 is ok for all the extras it comes with. But really what it boils down to is how much I use my current tablet.
My current tablet is the HP Touchpad with Cyanogenmod Android ICS installed. I am a desktop fanatic and was completely blown away by how much time I shifted from my desktop to the tablet. I am a news junkie and a Reddit.com reader so I get tons of use out of a device that is, in my opinion, perfectly set up for internet consumption.
All in all, I love the 10 inch tablet form factor and use it for hours every day so I feel the price is justified for me.
I really am liking the extra features that Samsung has added on top of Android, such as being able to run two apps side by side. After having the last two Transformers (Prime and Infinity) and having a ton of issues with their performance, this is will be the best premium tablet on the market, and that comes with a price. Sure you can get a laptop for that price, but if a tablet fits your needs better, it'll be hard to top this tablet. If you need to save some money, wait for the next Nexus device. If this tablet isnt in your budget, don't feel pressured to get the device. It is better to be straight financially than to stress over a luxury item.
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Remember this has a card slot. You can buy a 16GB SD card for $10 so effectively you can get 32GB for 560. Not a bad deal when you consider the screen and CPU/GPU which are top-class and of course the S-pen.
Ultimately it all hinges on the S-pen. If that is useful to you I think this is an easy buy. If not you should probably look elsewhere, either the Nexus 10 or the iPad 4 .
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Remember this has a card slot. You can buy a 16GB SD card for $10 so effectively you can get 32GB for 560. Not a bad deal when you consider the screen and CPU/GPU which are top-class and of course the S-pen.
Ultimately it all hinges on the S-pen. If that is useful to you I think this is an easy buy. If not you should probably look elsewhere, either the Nexus 10 or the iPad 4 .
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i think even if the S-pen is bad, as long as that technology is in the tablet, you can use something like the bamboo FEEL by wacom to supplement the S-pen usage
This a premium product, it's going to be priced accordingly. I was honestly expecting $700, it's coming in under my expectations. This is a steal at this price.
No way am I paying 600$ for a tablet. This is just ridiculous. what are they thiniking
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Remember this has a card slot. You can buy a 16GB SD card for $10 so effectively you can get 32GB for 560. Not a bad deal when you consider the screen and CPU/GPU which are top-class and of course the S-pen.
Ultimately it all hinges on the S-pen. If that is useful to you I think this is an easy buy. If not you should probably look elsewhere, either the Nexus 10 or the iPad 4 .
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Just make sure you get a microSD card, as the note, and most phones and tablets in general, only have a microSD slot, not a full SD card slot.
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Kimo377 said:
No way am I paying 600$ for a tablet. This is just ridiculous. what are they thiniking
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I think that is a little high priced by mabe $50 bucks. I have owned dozens of android tablets since version 1.5 and I have a nexus 7 2013 edition. I am looking forward to this one would have liked at least 64gb. I also have an ipad 4 that is the 128gb version it was $799 plus $99 insurance plus $40 case plus tax = about a grand. I love the apps on ios but i know you can do more on android. I would like to see android tablet apps like iOS apps and 128gb and up android tablets to be able to install lots of apps on as apps are only instalable on internal memory. I know I overpaid for my ipad but I don't think the price would be far off with a comparable memory spec android tablet.
Thats why there are different specifications and different price points... To serve the masses..
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No way am I paying 600$ for a tablet. This is just ridiculous. what are they thiniking
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if you dont use the spen much id recommend something like the lg tablet coming out. Great size and specs with way less cost. Lots of tablets to fit almost any price range exist.
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if you dont use the spen much id recommend something like the lg tablet coming out. Great size and specs with way less cost. Lots of tablets to fit almost any price range exist.
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I need something with no less than 9 inch screen size and 250 ppi resolution. any suggestions?
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I need something with no less than 9 inch screen size and 250 ppi resolution. any suggestions?
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The lg g pad should be released soon and has an 8.9 inch screen, sd 600, and magnificent screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The new kindle is also 8.9 inch screen, sd 800, awesome screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The coming nexus 10 will have great specs and a 10 inch screen and will be cheaper. The tf701 infinity will be out soon and has a 10 inch screen, tegra 4 a d gorgeous screen res and ppi and will be cheaper. Those are the most popular. There are others you can google.
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The lg g pad should be released soon and has an 8.9 inch screen, sd 600, and magnificent screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The new kindle is also 8.9 inch screen, sd 800, awesome screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The coming nexus 10 will have great specs and a 10 inch screen and will be cheaper. The tf701 infinity will be out soon and has a 10 inch screen, tegra 4 a d gorgeous screen res and ppi and will be cheaper. Those are the most popular. There are others you can google.
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At the rate ASUS is going they will not be releasing the new infinity until 2014. Joking aside....I hear rumors its pushed back to mid-November though...something must be wrong. I'm not going to wait any longer for ASUS.
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The lg g pad should be released soon and has an 8.9 inch screen, sd 600, and magnificent screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The new kindle is also 8.9 inch screen, sd 800, awesome screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The coming nexus 10 will have great specs and a 10 inch screen and will be cheaper. The tf701 infinity will be out soon and has a 10 inch screen, tegra 4 a d gorgeous screen res and ppi and will be cheaper. Those are the most popular. There are others you can google.
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Where did you get price info for the tf701?? Because the tf700, at least at launch, was priced on par with the note 10, and that price didn't include the keyboard **** either, which case about $150 or so more.
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Where did you get price info for the tf701?? Because the tf700, at least at launch, was priced on par with the note 10, and that price didn't include the keyboard **** either, which case about $150 or so more.
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I was researching and following the new Transformer tf701 for a bit and I think the consensus was that it would be $399 for just the tablet and $499 with dock for the base model but I'm not 100% on that and I think its unofficial...I could be wrong though
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I was researching and following the new Transformer tf701 for a bit and I think the consensus was that it would be $399 for just the tablet and $499 with dock for the base model but I'm not 100% on that and I think its unofficial...I could be wrong though
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I have not heard pricing myself, didn't think pricing or availability had been said yet, at least not in any of the major news outlets or Asus website.
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conan1600 said:
The lg g pad should be released soon and has an 8.9 inch screen, sd 600, and magnificent screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The new kindle is also 8.9 inch screen, sd 800, awesome screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The coming nexus 10 will have great specs and a 10 inch screen and will be cheaper. The tf701 infinity will be out soon and has a 10 inch screen, tegra 4 a d gorgeous screen res and ppi and will be cheaper. Those are the most popular. There are others you can google.
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Thanks.I'm already considering the new kindle fire.
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I was researching and following the new Transformer tf701 for a bit and I think the consensus was that it would be $399 for just the tablet and $499 with dock for the base model but I'm not 100% on that and I think its unofficial...I could be wrong though
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this price is on par for what i paid for my TF700 tho, so i'd believe it.

Dell Venue or Surface Pro 2

Last year at this time my problem was that there were no good W8 tablets, and now these seems to be 2 very good W8 tablets upcoming. Money is not an issue, I have been saving since last year for one of these guys, but I was wondering, naturally it's hard to determine given that neither the pro2 or venue aren't out, but what does everyone think about the 2 tablets right now, does anyone have a preference or idea as to which may be better?
Currently debating the same thing, but the price of the Dell Venue is the deal breaker. Essentially half the price for the same tablet, take my money.
Honestly, I prefer the look of the venue 11 pro over the surface pro 2 although I have been massively put off by dell build quality. Every dell machine I have handled has been creaky, wobbly or outright faulty, lets hope the venue changes that.
The venue has a user replaceable battery and the keyboard dock is a design I prefer utilising an actual laptop hinge rather than relying on a kickstand to prop up the screen, would be wicked if the venue had the kickstand too though for when without a keyboard but thats just me wanting one rather than me saying they should have added one. The bay trail option is rather attractive too, £349 entry price for what I presume would be bay trail and no keyboard. Going right upto i5 with 8gb of ram (appears they are using the exact same chip as the surface pro 2 and with 8gb of ram they would essentially become the same device). If someone could assure me of the venue's quality that would probably be the device I went for.
Looks like about £210 for the 8" dell tablet. I am more interested in the 8" tablets right now than the 10 (or in case of venue 11). I have a 13" laptop and can't justify having 2 windows devices which are really quite similar in size. I'm keeping an eye on the 8" windows tablet market, would prefer 7 still but thats just me being picky. Looking to replace my phone first though and don't have the money for buying tablets too.
I think asus and lenovo are supposed to be announcing devices soon too.
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Currently debating the same thing, but the price of the Dell Venue is the deal breaker. Essentially half the price for the same tablet, take my money.
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Do we know the price of their i5 model yet?
Surface pro 2 all the way. The only dell that interests me is the 8in. Venue pro. Surface pro 2 and the pro 1 still has other new devices beat. Quality wise.
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Honestly, I prefer the look of the venue 11 pro over the surface pro 2 although I have been massively put off by dell build quality. Every dell machine I have handled has been creaky, wobbly or outright faulty, lets hope the venue changes that.
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Have you ever used any of their business-class models? The Latitude XT (later replaced by Dell with an XT2) I got from them years ago was drastically better quality than any of the home-class models I've ever gotten from Dell... and customer support was better on the business end as well.
Still, I'd pick the Surface Pro over a Dell tablet any day. With the Surface, you're pretty much guaranteed that Microsoft will keep supporting the tablet with driver updates and the like. With Dell, it's always (in my experience) been a crap shoot whether they would continue updating drivers for new operating systems... so while the Dell might work great with 8.1 now, who knows what will happen if 8.2 changes driver requirements a year down the line.
If there was a Venue Pro at around 6-7 inches though, I'd seriously consider using that to replace my cell phone... it just would still be paired with a Surface.
I've been going back and forth between the two and I think the Dell is going to win unless something else is announced soon.
Sp 2 has slightly better i5 but the dell is still going to top sp1 and will gain battery life/run cooler in the process
The magnesium build of the sp2 is offset by dells removable battery and serviceable hardware.
The keyboard doc is much better then microsofts power cover which relies on the kickstand for support plus is half the price.
Venue has display port AND hdmi port on the tablet.
sp2 does have wacom but synaptics is looking pretty good. For an artist or design pro this of course could be a deal breaker.
Sp2 panel may be higher quality not sure... they both look good and venue is slightly larger.
Hard to say about firmware/driver updates... probably depends on how many they sell. Honestly in a year I'll be itching for the next gen haswell anyway.
I will get the Venue 8 Pro. It is a perfect device.for work. Digital ink plus outlook, office, and one note. The only think I can concerned about us the pen technology they selected. I would have preferred Wacom to be compatible with my Samsung spens
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Currently debating the same thing, but the price of the Dell Venue is the deal breaker. Essentially half the price for the same tablet, take my money.
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Nope. The £349 price Dell has said is for the configuration with an Atom CPU. We still have to see the price for the config. with an Intel i5.
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I think asus and lenovo are supposed to be announcing devices soon too.
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Asus already anounced the tablet-PCs they will sell this year, the Transformer Book T100 (with Atom CPU), the Transformer Book Trio (Android tablet + WIndows dock) and the Transformer Book T300 (same hardware as the Surface Pro 2 but without stylus support).
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Do we know the price of their i5 model yet?
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November 7th the Venue Pro 11 will be available on UK, we'll have to wait until then to see the prices of the different configs on Dell's web.
I presume that the Venue11 is an 11" device, personally, and I know its only an inch, that extra one mackes it a pita to hold, I used to have one of the Samsung 11" tabs last year and it was too big..
Does anyone have an idea about the Venue pen technology?
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Does anyone have an idea about the Venue pen technology?
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I think I have read that the pen technology of the two Venue is from Synaptics, not from Wacom. Try to look on Youtube for videos where they show the device and hope to hear what technology it has.
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Does anyone have an idea about the Venue pen technology?
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In the announcement they said that the venue 8 is using synaptics, I would assume that the 11 also uses synaptics.

Nexus 9 is too expensive

The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase.
I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4, which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch count on its display , 2.3 ghz quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory.
Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase. I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4 which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch, 2.3 gig quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory. Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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What's the dev support like?
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What's the dev support like?
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Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
USBhost said:
Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
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Yeah I know, I developed a bunch of ROM's for it. Had to do blind tests since I don't have it.
scottharris4 said:
Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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It will mean that getting future custom ROMs could be potentially compromised because (1) Samsung may not release stuff that is needed for these ROMs, and (2) how many devs (which there aren't many to begin with) are going to want to keep putting in work to an "obsolete" device.
Anyone saying that other tablets are "comparable spec wise" either forgot about the 64-bit CPU or they are likely underestimating the effect it will have on performance. Unless you are considering a different tablet with either a Denver K1 or Snapdragon 810 there is probably no point in comparing it to the Nexus 9.
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
I even consider buying a iPad Mini 2 (only £329 for 32GB) given the iPad Mini 3 is not much of an upgrade to this and not worth buying.
But being a Nexus Fanboy, I'll probably will get a N9 and say Goodbye for my slow & laggy N10.
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iPad Air 2 16GB cost the same as a Nexus 9 32GB...
that's just too expensive
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What did you even expect from a new device coming out this late?
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
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You can always use OTG. I am almost always near a WiFi connection so I should be fine. I have a grandfathered Unlimited T-Mo plan without hotspot but I want to see if I can bypass that. All my media will be coming off my server computer and apps shouldn't be that much space.
Please do your home work on the nvidia shield tablet!!!
It has been known of self cracking corners! Plenty of customers on here, I was one of them!!! even with the second batch and LTE version
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Very poor WiFi!
And losses charge whilst on charge. Suss that one out?
I had one and sent it back after a week!
It could of been a very good tablet. But has some very big issues!
There are only a couple of very hard working devs over there as development stands.
But sadly the shield is a big flop. Really is a shame!!!!!!
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This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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For me it is bad. $399 screams highend and it should have had 32GB at that price point. But even that sounds bad. Should have been $300 for 16GB and $350 for 32GB.
Hate to bring up iPad's around here but a new retina mini cost $299 at 16GB. If you're not into rooting/hacking it looks pretty decent compared to these prices. Point being it won't take long for prices to drop on this new Nexus 9. I wouldn't be surprised to see these hit the refurb bins at $250 to $300 in 6 months. That's how I got my 2013 Nexus 7 for $130.
how about Xiaomi Mi pad?!
did u think about xiaomi's mi pad?! it has the same cpu and gpu. but at lower price.64 gb version is about 340$.also have the same size of Ipad mini2 and all the accessories of ipad mini2 fits to this one..from the Dev side of this tablet i dont know alot.but i know nvidia quickly turn behind to its cpu and products..i have htc one x..i waited a lot for some good games that never showed up!by the way i have ifive mini 3gs..i am very satisfied.. mi pad was my choice but i needed sim card slot so i bought this ifive.. Mi pad is a very good tablet..think about it :good:
I honestly believe that for what you get with the nexus 9 that it's going to be a decent deal.
I just bought a galaxy tab s 10.5 and am debating on buying the nexus 9 as my living room tablet.
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Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
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My Nexus 7 is still as smooth as the day I bought it

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