[Q] Is it safe to buy one now? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Considering all the defects Nexus 7 has, is it safe to buy a Nexus 7 now? I've been wanting to have a 7" tablet running with Android. This is basically what I need for Christmas but as I was surfing the Nexus 7 forum and found out everything about the defects, it made me think if I should get one or not.

Got mine at launch, never had an issue. If there is a hardware problem Google will take it back anyway..
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That's the problem, I just can't simply return the item because I am living in SEA. I'll be ordering my NX7 online.

jahmgwapo said:
Considering all the defects Nexus 7 has, is it safe to buy a Nexus 7 now? I've been wanting to have a 7" tablet running with Android. This is basically what I need for Christmas but as I was surfing the Nexus 7 forum and found out everything about the defects, it made me think if I should get one or not.
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Yes you should but definitely buy one from a local retailer if you can. Its way easier to return your device if you ever needed to exchange for another in case of a defect.

Yeah, I guess I will. Thanks all!

jahmgwapo said:
Considering all the defects Nexus 7 has.
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What defects? and what makes you think the millions of owners that don't post here, have problems too?

I purchased online upon release. The unit seemed to be in good condition. I returned it within the 14day policy without a hassle either (returned it because I also had an ipad and didnt want to own two tablets.)
I just picked up a new 32gb 7 and it is flawless. This latest build seems to be more solid. It gives the impression that Asus likely tightened up their assembly quality control.

CrazyPeter said:
What defects? and what makes you think the millions of owners that don't post here, have problems too?
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This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801464
And this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1770919
They're basically the same but yeah, those are the defects I'm talking about.

jahmgwapo said:
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801464
And this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1770919
They're basically the same but yeah, those are the defects I'm talking about.
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Yea , there are people reporting defects , but like he asked you , what makes you think that a very small percent of owners having issues means that they are poorly manufactured ? People typically don't start threads to say their device is working fine and defect free . Look up how many N7's have been sold vs. how many complaints you see in the posts you linked , I'll bet it is far below 1% defect rate . Just relax and stop worrying about it , if you want one , get it . You are never going to get a 100% guarantee that every device made will be defect free .

jahmgwapo said:
Considering all the defects Nexus 7 has, is it safe to buy a Nexus 7 now? I've been wanting to have a 7" tablet running with Android. This is basically what I need for Christmas but as I was surfing the Nexus 7 forum and found out everything about the defects, it made me think if I should get one or not.
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after four nexus 7 16GB tablets, I finally returned mine for a refund.
I promptly ordered a nexus 7 32GB. It is excellent as far as I can tell, no issues.

jahmgwapo said:
That's the problem, I just can't simply return the item because I am living in SEA. I'll be ordering my NX7 online.
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Electronics and Water don't mix in general

Wilks3y said:
Electronics and Water don't mix in general
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I got the 32GB one yday and the build quality looks great to me, nothing wrong with the screen and the whole device feels solid.

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Who has a non-defective Nexus 7

I'm sort of freaking out of all these issues I see in the forums. I received my nexus 7 last night, and it seemed ok but now I'm reading of all these problems. I'll have to wait until later in the day until I can check.
So while I'm waiting I wonder who has actually gotten a good Nexus 7. If you go by most of these threads you'd think no one.
bhobski said:
I'm sort of freaking out of all these issues I see in the forums. I received my nexus 7 last night, and it seemed ok but now I'm reading of all these problems. I'll have to wait until later in the day until I can check.
So while I'm waiting I wonder who has actually gotten a good Nexus 7. If you go by most of these threads you'd think no one.
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Mine is defective. It doesn't have any screen separation, light bleed, rattling sounds, or lag. I'm gonna have to return it.
I got two good ones.
Mine is perfectly fine. Bought from GP store. 16GB model. No light bleed, no separation, no squeaks or creaks. Only issue is flicker when light set at 0 when reading in bed in the dark. But this occurred on all my other tabs as well so no biggie. Only flickers if wifi is actively doing something.
I ordered two, one on the 5th and the other on the 17th. The one I ordered on the 5th has the lifted screen issue, but the other N7 is perfect. No other issues on the first N7.
No issues here
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Mine is not defective. no screen issues, no creaking, no battery issues, its nice and shiny (for now) and it works. got mine from macmall
Perfect, picked it up 2 days ago, new shipment to Staples.
Got mine from Currys and no defects or issues so far.
Mine is pretty good. im not going to look at any defective threads it might jinx it.
These threads account for like .01% of all the nexus 7's out there. So add another maybe 1% that might have a problem that don't post it on here and that makes 1.01% of thousands of nexi out there with a problem
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No issues at all
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No issues at all
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hic9582 said:
These threads account for like .01% of all the nexus 7's out there. So add another maybe 1% that might have a problem that don't post it on here and that makes 1.01% of thousands of nexi out there with a problem
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I don't think that's accurate. I purchased my N7 from Sam's Club on Friday the 13th and didn't notice the screen lifting until today. Just got back from returning it.
People who are saying "no problem here" need to wait a while and then make absolutely sure that their display is flush on the left side.
As for whether or not this is the minority defect you're claiming it to be, right now I'm only listening to those posters who have discovered the problem and used their replacement tablet for a week. Seeing as the device has only been on sale for a week, these people don't exist yet. They're the only ones who know what to look for, and I'll be waiting to see how this develops before re-ordering.
Sorry for not staying on topic, but it bugs me that someone is dismissing my experience as an anomaly and blatantly making up stats to do it.
pxlitup said:
I don't think that's accurate. I purchased my N7 from Sam's Club on Friday the 13th and didn't notice the screen lifting until today. Just got back from returning it.
People who are saying "no problem here" need to wait a while and then make absolutely sure that their display is completely flush on the left side.
As for whether or not this is the minority defect you're claiming it to be, right now I'm only listening to those posters who have discovered the problem and used their replacement tablet for a week. Seeing as the device has only been on sale for a week, these people don't exist yet. They're the only ones who know what to look for, and I'll be waiting to see how this develops before re-ordering.
Sorry for not staying on topic, but it bugs me that someone is dismissing my experience as an anomaly and making up stats to do it.
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$20 says you just didn't notice it until everyone started talking about it haha
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hic9582 said:
$20 says you just didn't notice it until everyone started talking about it haha
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Exactly. :laugh:
hic9582 said:
$20 says you just didn't notice it until everyone started talking about it haha
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True, but that doesn't mean that I saw a ghost because someone told me a story. The screen was in fact lifting ever so slightly on the left side. I was concerned that it might get worse over time, so I returned it. Also, I had a single dead pixel near the top of the screen and part of me was looking for a reason.
I agree that most people who do receive a "defective" unit will never notice it, and would not complain if they did, unless it gets worse.
Whew I feel somewhat better
Mines clean, got it from GameStop
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For those who say their device isnt defective . Can you test your digitizer? See if touching the lower part of your screen cancels out each other or if multiple touches causes some points not to register.
Please report back ... there's a know issue with the digitizer not registering on the first batch of N7's from the play store.
Here's the programs to test with :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.the511plus.MultiTouchTester&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50aGU1MTFwbHVzLk11bHRpVG91Y2hUZXN0ZXIiXQ..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.the511plus.MultiTouchTester

Where can I buy a Nexus 7 in UK that will ship to EU?

Hi.
I'm looking for a Nexus 7 but I can't seem to find any place which can ship to Denmark, I stumbled across Clove but £224 for the 8 gig version is just too much.
Can anyone help? Thanks.
ding0 said:
Hi.
I'm looking for a Nexus 7 but I can't seem to find any place which can ship to Denmark, I stumbled across Clove but £224 for the 8 gig version is just too much.
Can anyone help? Thanks.
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Got mine from eBay with next day ups delivery to central cph a week ago and its perfect
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my honest answer is DONT!!!!
At the moment there is to many hardware issues with the device.
-Screen separation
-Screen Flicker
-Light bleads
Imagine. on average (on xda) people are replacing their n7 about 2 times.
how much money youre going to spend on postage just to get a good unit?
Fair enough you might get a good unit at first time but you never know.
just wait till its going to be released in your country.
I was planning on buying online but decided not to just due to the cost of sending it back (for example had my Galaxy nexus shipped back twice and had to pay for it).
Oh well, I might wait.
Does these problems really occur that often
What did you pay for yours on eBay?
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Imagine. on average (on xda) people are replacing their n7 about 2 times.
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Really?! I smell a made up 'fact'...
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MattSkeet said:
my honest answer is DONT!!!!
At the moment there is to many hardware issues with the device.
-Screen separation
-Screen Flicker
-Light bleads
Imagine. on average (on xda) people are replacing their n7 about 2 times.
how much money youre going to spend on postage just to get a good unit?
Fair enough you might get a good unit at first time but you never know.
just wait till its going to be released in your country.
I was planning on buying online but decided not to just due to the cost of sending it back (for example had my Galaxy nexus shipped back twice and had to pay for it).
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Mate, you rarely see people happy with their devices on xda. People come here to whinge and mod. My device is perfect and there are plenty others without problems.
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ding0 said:
Oh well, I might wait.
Does these problems really occur that often
What did you pay for yours on eBay?
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£220 but then paid £40 for next day delivery I'm an impatient guy.
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well if you look through the topics there is more issues than positive things here.
main problem on n7 is screen flickering. this is definitely hardware issue and everyone has that, however, not everyone is so OCD about it. I'm on my 3rd one now and I have screen separation (it doesnt bother me that much tho as i can sort it out myslef), however there is "microscopic" flickering. 95% of people I would show it to probably wont even notice it yet to me its just friggin pain in the ass.
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well if you look through the topics there is more issues than positive things here.
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Because those who are happy with their device, don't post. They're busy enjoying their devices. Don't discourage others who will more than likely get a perfect device because a select few who have problems. It is very unfortunate that you have had problems and I hope you finally get one that you are pleased with.
As for the flicker. It is not 'definitely' hardware. The one x had similar issues with the tegra 3 GPU. It was solved with an ota update. I had that issue and my one x is perfect now. We in the one x forums were certain it was hardware. Loads of flaming and difference of opinions and it was sorted with a small update - I hope you guys with issues will get the same treatment.
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Well if I have to buy from eBay I might just wait till it hits Denmark, >200£ is just too expensive for my taste.

What should I do with my old Nexus 7?

I bought a new Nexus 7, returned it today due to screen problems, and ordered a new one from Best Buy that I should get tomorrow or Thursday.
I was wondering what you guys have done with your old Nexus 7 or any recommendations on what I should do with mine. Mine is 32GB and still perfectly functional. I was thinking about using it as a media server but I'm not sure how useful that would be. I'd rather not have it just sit here and collect dust.
Thanks ahead of time.
Sell it.
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I bought a new Nexus 7, returned it today due to screen problems, and ordered a new one from Best Buy that I should get tomorrow or Thursday.
I was wondering what you guys have done with your old Nexus 7 or any recommendations on what I should do with mine. Mine is 32GB and still perfectly functional. I was thinking about using it as a media server but I'm not sure how useful that would be. I'd rather not have it just sit here and collect dust.
Thanks ahead of time.
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Give it to a tech junky. I know at least one who loves all toys *raises hand* seriously don't you have any nieces or nephews or just a little cute neighbor? If we all try we can make someone less fortunate smile with our unused toys.
cyberprodigy said:
I bought a new Nexus 7, returned it today due to screen problems, and ordered a new one from Best Buy that I should get tomorrow or Thursday.
I was wondering what you guys have done with your old Nexus 7 or any recommendations on what I should do with mine. Mine is 32GB and still perfectly functional. I was thinking about using it as a media server but I'm not sure how useful that would be. I'd rather not have it just sit here and collect dust.
Thanks ahead of time.
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Why not using it with the daydream? An expensive alarm clock with weather notifications, along with some other stuff and as such it can also collect dust!
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You could use it as a permanent car mount, or a clock, or a computer remote ( unified remote works great), or just sell it.
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Send it to me so I can track OTAs for it
Leave it on a park bench with a post-it-note that says "You're welcome!"...
TheManii said:
Send it to me so I can track OTAs for it
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Track OTAs? What does that mean/what is the benefit of this?
[REF] Nexus 7 Stock OTA URLs
[REF]2013 Nexus 7 Stock OTA URLs
[REF] Nexus 4 Stock OTA URLs
just a couple examples, we have threads for every single nexus device.
But we dont actually own every one, so the rest depend on random people to post.
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[REF] Nexus 7 Stock OTA URLs
[REF]2013 Nexus 7 Stock OTA URLs
[REF] Nexus 4 Stock OTA URLs
just a couple examples, we have threads for every single nexus device.
But we dont actually own every one, so the rest depend on random people to post.
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But what benefit does this give me?
Nothing, just a suggestion
Find a less fortunate kid and give it them if you don't have your own kids or a nephew or niece... Or use it with multirom and have downloading all kind of Roms they have tons
Sent 4rm my Nexus 7 2013... It feels and looks so sexy...
Just give it to somebody you know who would use it if you don't need the money. I gave mine to my mom since she babysits my kids all the time for free.
Will give mine to my parents as well...
I say you mount it in your car for GPS/music. I don't give anything away to anyone for free ever. Except family
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Try to impress a date and bring it with you on a boat, only to fall into the water (happened to me.)
But seriously,
1. Ebay if you want to sell it fast, tho you probably won't get as much as you want for it, plus ebay and paypal fees sting.
2. Craigslist if you want to risk getting robbed.
3. Give to niece/nephew if you have them as a christmas present.
4. Keep it and wait 20 years until it becomes a collectors item, then sell it for bookoo bucks!!
5. Learn to develop games/apps with it.
6. Use it as a coaster.
Is developing something you couldn't do with the new one?
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wwr8bz said:
Is developing something you couldn't do with the new one?
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I only suggest using the old one to dev on just in case something goes completely wrong and it gets ruined. I don't know much about android development, so I don't know if its even possible to brick the N7, but just as a cautionary measure, I would rather use an older device than a brand new one JUST IN CASE.
In the same boat as you, have no clue about development, was just curious. But now that I too have an old nexus lying around maybe I'll look into it!
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adamhlj said:
I only suggest using the old one to dev on just in case something goes completely wrong and it gets ruined. I don't know much about android development, so I don't know if its even possible to brick the N7, but just as a cautionary measure, I would rather use an older device than a brand new one JUST IN CASE.
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Oh, it's possible. Believe you me, you can do it. It's just a bit harder to kill a Nexus device in most situations.
I can confirm it makes a great coaster. I'm starting to lose interest in flashing new ROMs every few months, but I may repurpose my Nexus 7 into a HUD unit of sorts to mount over my desk.

[Q] Should I buy New Nexus 7 right now or wait for another set of fresh models?

Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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As someone who just returned his 3rd with dead pixels, my only recommendation is to buy from a place that you know will let you return it.
It seems to be a random **** shoot, I see all these people reporting they have units that are good, and then there's me and the others in the dead pixel thread.
An update has already been released to fix the multitouch and GPS issue.
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As someone who just returned his 3rd with dead pixels, my only recommendation is to buy from a place that you know will let you return it.
It seems to be a random **** shoot, I see all these people reporting they have units that are good, and then there's me and the others in the dead pixel thread.
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One of my cousin lives in India and wants me to despatch one to him from Amazon,sound bad?So you are clearly saying that I should wait until Asus releases more fresh ones in a few months,right?
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An update has already been released to fix the multitouch and GPS issue.
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Does the update fix the issue?
And is it a good time to import one?
nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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I would buy without any hesitations. Don't read into many complains here, they will play with your head.
(just like IF I told you that your GF is cheating on you .. would it suddenly makes her look suspicious somehow ?).
Haha.... I'm looking forward to some factory-refurbished sales down the road.
No wonder credit cards rates are so high (know what I mean..).
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Does the update fix the issue?
And is it a good time to import one?
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https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&...3.152.3.3.0...0.0...1ac.1.T66OUul4cOI&qscrl=1
nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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Like you said most issues are fixable by update which are rolling out now but depends on your preference. I was thinking the same thing but waited a month. The current hardware which is what I have rev. E, seem to be issues free. Have spoke to others both 16gb and 32gb who are so far issue free under this rev so it really just depends where you buy it if they're still on the initial stock or if they've gotten new batches. I bought mine off amazon, through amazon them selves, meaning no separate sellers on amazon and got lucky with no issues but as said under rev. E, now I'm not totally sure how true that is that's what was explained to me by someone else while we are waiting for the current update, so I guess your best bet is to talk to someone who is experiencing these issues souch as multi-touch, random reboot and GPS issues. See what rev the initial stock was. Other wise like you mention you can just wait a month or so which most issues should be ironed out by then but seems as if they're getting a good handle on that so should have to wait too long if you choose to do so.
nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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In a few months I'd be looking forward to the Kindle Fire HD 2's better hardware with the Snapdragon 800 CPU.
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I would buy without any hesitations. Don't read into many complains here, they will play with your head.
(just like IF I told you that your GF is cheating on you .. would it suddenly makes her look suspicious somehow ?).
Haha.... I'm looking forward to some factory-refurbished sales down the road.
No wonder credit cards rates are so high (know what I mean..).
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I got you on that,haha.Normally refurbished models come problem-free,right?I am considering waiting for it,then.What do you think?Bcz its a question of importing one.
The thing about 'lots of issue' reports is that folks are bound to announce when they are upset, but majority or folks enjoying the products is keep enjoying it instead of complaining. So, it may seem like there are a lot of issues, but it actually isn't widespread in any way.
I got one and loved it, but I returned it. I didn't any issues. I returned it because I want the LTE version instead. So, if you want to hold out, do it if you want the LTE version (just $80 more than the 32GB wifi version), not if you're waffling about quality issues. But if you are concerned, by it from a brick & mortar store so you have a return window.
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Like you said most issues are fixable by update which are rolling out now but depends on your preference. I was thinking the same thing but waited a month. The current hardware which is what I have rev. E, seem to be issues free. Have spoke to others both 16gb and 32gb who are so far issue free under this rev so it really just depends where you buy it if they're still on the initial stock or if they've gotten new batches. I bought mine off amazon, through amazon them selves, meaning no separate sellers on amazon and got lucky with no issues but as said under rev. E, now I'm not totally sure how true that is that's what was explained to me by someone else while we are waiting for the current update, so I guess your best bet is to talk to someone who is experiencing these issues souch as multi-touch, random reboot and GPS issues. See what rev the initial stock was. Other wise like you mention you can just wait a month or so which most issues should be ironed out by then but seems as if they're getting a good handle on that so should have to wait too long if you choose to do so.
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I think you gave an excellent piece of info.But how do i check what rev.E that Nexus 7 is?I read that the updates arent helping everyone,but I reckon the update should do the trick.But the worry is I am importing one,so!
Oh you mean waiting for refurbished models can take longer time?
Curare said:
The thing about 'lots of issue' reports is that folks are bound to announce when they are upset, but majority or folks enjoying the products is keep enjoying it instead of complaining. So, it may seem like there are a lot of issues, but it actually isn't widespread in any way.
I got one and loved it, but I returned it. I didn't any issues. I returned it because I want the LTE version instead. So, if you want to hold out, do it if you want the LTE version (just $80 more than the 32GB wifi version), not if you're waffling about quality issues. But if you are concerned, by it from a brick & mortar store so you have a return window.
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Can you please give me the link to brick and mortar store if they provide online service?
Thank you and you made a point!
nsnarayan10 said:
I think you gave an excellent piece of info.But how do i check what rev.E that Nexus 7 is?I read that the updates arent helping everyone,but I reckon the update should do the trick.But the worry is I am importing one,so!
Oh you mean waiting for refurbished models can take longer time?
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Reboot into bootloader shutdown the hold vol down+ power, the hardware rev will be toward the bottom. As I said not sure how true that is haven't checked into this my self but would be good to know.
Don't listen to people to tell you to ignore complaints. There is a 30-something page thread about dead pixels going on since launch for a reason, and another about build quality that is huge as well.
The multitouch and GPS problems have been addresses in a (timely) update.
However, if you or your friend care about dead pixels or dust under your screen, it is something that people are indeed experiencing (again - i opened a july mfg unit yesterday and it had 2 dead pixels - my 3rd nexus with dead pixels).
I think the real question here is: If your friend opened one up in India with a dead pixel, some light bleed, some dust under screen, or any other blemish, would he be able to deal with it?
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Reboot into bootloader shutdown the hold vol down+ power, the hardware rev will be toward the bottom. As I said not sure how true that is haven't checked into this my self but would be good to know.
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Oh,thank you so much and its called Hardware REV?So you have faced no problem whatsoever?
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Oh,thank you so much and its called Hardware REV?So you have faced no problem whatsoever?
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Yes as mine say I booted into bootload and it says hardware rev. e, yours should show what its on I think like 3 lines down on the device info in bootloader mode near the bottom.
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Don't listen to people to tell you to ignore complaints. There is a 30-something page thread about dead pixels going on since launch for a reason, and another about build quality that is huge as well.
The multitouch and GPS problems have been addresses in a (timely) update.
However, if you or your friend care about dead pixels or dust under your screen, it is something that people are indeed experiencing (again - i opened a july mfg unit yesterday and it had 2 dead pixels - my 3rd nexus with dead pixels).
I think the real question here is: If your friend opened one up in India with a dead pixel, some light bleed, some dust under screen, or any other blemish, would he be able to deal with it?
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You are absolutely right.If its software issues like GPS and Multi-touch,it could be solved over updates but dead pixels and light bleeding can get him helpless.So its better to wait for refurbished models?If so will they come a bit late?
But are these common issues with every phone in this intensity?
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Yes as mine say I booted into bootload and it says hardware rev. e, yours should show what its on I think like 3 lines down on the device info in bootloader mode near the bottom.
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Thank you so much bro and I am scared what if i encounter any hardware issues like Dead-pixels and light bleeding.And this product is getting imported and worse is it could not be accepted for return since the product is not yet launched in that imported country.
nsnarayan10 said:
You are absolutely right.If its software issues like GPS and Multi-touch,it could be solved over updates but dead pixels and light bleeding can get him helpless.So its better to wait for refurbished models?If so will they come a bit late?
But are these common issues with every phone in this intensity?
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Yes forgot about the dead pixel issue, that is true but not as all have it, its pretty much rolling the dice to see if your lucky enough to get one issue free, at least at the moment. So maybe to wait would be best or even a return but the return hasn't always proven true for me. I came from the Asus transformer which was riddled with ghost touch issues, went through 3 of them just couldn't get around it whether it was a return or not.

One more update then - LAWYER UP!! Class Action....

I am willing to pursue a class action lawsuit on behalf of all of us who were sold defective Nexus 7 (2013) tablet's and have useless touchscreens.
I am giving them one more chance with an update to repair the problem and then I'm taking it to my company's lawyer.
I have sent it in once, they told me they "re-calibrated the screen and digitizer"......no improvement.
Still having sticky keys, phantom touches, long presses.....It is absolutely a useless tablet as I can't type like I normally can.
If you would like to pursue litigation, please join me.
GOOGLE, YOU HAVE ONE MORE CHANCE!! MAKE THIS RIGHT OR WE WILL END UP IN COURT - GUARANTEED.
Its no worse then what we saw (actually far better) with the Xoom timing out touch events after 15 seconds.
Don't get me wrong... It is certainly annoying... I'm just not certain that it meets the criteria for the type of litigation you are suggesting.
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Has Google refused to remedy your problem, either with a new tablet or an update? It's not as if the entire product line is defective - far from it. As with anything that's manufactured, there will be some items that fall below standard. I doubt you have the right to sue over this. I understand you're pissed but a CAL isn't going to happen.
Let us know what your lawyer says. I'd be surprised if you found one willing to take the case.
bananagranola said:
Let us know what your lawyer says. I'd be surprised if you found one willing to take the case.
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It's MY company's lawyer...
He doesn't have a choice....LOL.
....Are you guys really willing to be robbed from and then let them get away with??
As a business owner myself, I know how I would handle it if I wished to preserve my reputation.
We'll see, but having to resort to an older tablet to send emails is unacceptable.
I may simply demand a refund and go buy a Samsung......
If nobody else wants to get onboard....
I can't understand why you wouldn't but I'll get my money back and move on....
kayakaddict said:
I may simply demand a refund and go buy a Samsung......
If nobody else wants to get onboard....
I can't understand why you wouldn't but I'll get my money back and move on....
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Good luck with that. Unless you have multiple warranty replacements, they'd probably just laugh at you.
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If the entire product line was defective and Google refused to remedy the situation, then a CAL could be justified. Have you exhausted all avenues of approach yet? Demanded a refund? A new tablet? Those are your best options at the moment. I personally don't have a problem with my N7.
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Good luck with that. Unless you have multiple warranty replacements, they'd probably just laugh at you.
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That's exactly what they just did....
dkb218 said:
Have you exhausted all avenues of approach yet? Demanded a refund? A new tablet?
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OP, pay attention. This guy is thinking clearly. :good:
The111 said:
OP, pay attention. This guy is thinking clearly. :good:
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I demanded a refund just now from Google. Less than a month old - NOPE.
I was put in contact with ASUS. They want me to send it in and I have to pay the shipping.
Ridiculous. I'm going to buy a Samsung right now and sell this POS.
As if Sammy is any better... Good luck with bloatwiz...
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kayakaddict said:
I demanded a refund just now from Google. Less than a month old - NOPE.
I was put in contact with ASUS. They want me to send it in and I have to pay the shipping.
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Google's return policy is 15 days after the date of delivery, You missed out on the chance of getting a replacement or a refund.
Your best shot now is contact ASUS again and demand they pay for the shipping for a defective item, try to demand talking to a manager might help.
Am sure if we get Andy Dufresne involved he will fix it for us for a few cold beers each on the rooftop of asus factory for the defected units
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Regarding the CAL, if you missed the return/refund window for Google you can't really get anything from CAL.
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Don't quit your day job, you're no legal scholar.
Reckoning said:
Don't quit your day job, you're no legal scholar.
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I am not, and now I stand corrected.
If you're at all serious, here's a rich source of potential participants :
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
Rofl...problem is most people are too ignorant to even realize their device is defective.
Shouting about "my N7 works perfect!"....
FluffyR said:
Rofl...problem is most people are too ignorant to even realize their device is defective.
Shouting about "my N7 works perfect!"....
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+1 Someone say his Nexus isn't working properly and that is willing to take action, then the thread suddenly floods with people with "perfect" Nexus, and saying it's not a big deal.
If you don't have any problem with your Nexus, hooray! good for you, a lot of us do have problems.
PS: I was the owner of a Note 8, 0 problems, I though, well I had the Nexus 7(2012) and it worked fine, plus is pure android. So I jumped to this Nexus for the screen and pure android... now I'm starting to regret it, just know my keyboard started with the ghost touches, is incredibly annoying...
Let me say something. This guy is right we are getting the shaft. I been building computers and a tech for 20 yrs. I have had every top of the line tablet out there. I still love my IPAD 4.
I have bought 7 Nexus 7 2013 from 3 different places and the seventh still is messed up. Now you are going to say that is normal. Bullcrap.
Out of all of the top of the line tablets I have I never had to take them back and replace them. Once would be fine but 7 and still not working is not freakin right.
I have had the Asus TF101, Asus TF300, Asus TF700, Samsung GALAXY Tab 1, Galaxy tab 8.0, Toshiba Thrive, Toshiba Excite, HP touch pad and more never had a screen problem like this. I have a I7 3700K overclocked on air at 4.7ghz evo 212 cpu fan.
You should never have to replace more than 2 times to get something right, I would have to say that their product line is 85% bad on the Nexus 7 2013.

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