Thinking about the Nexus 4 and getting rid of my SGS3 but this bugs me:
Test Date: Nov 6, 2012 11:08:55 am
Connection Type: Lte
Server: Clifton, NJ
Download: 40652 kbps
Upload: 10838 kbps
Ping: 99 ms
No LTE on the Nexus 4!
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depends how much you care about internet speed
I personally couldn't possibly care less about the lack of LTE
Simple you either want LTE or you don't.
If you can live with slower speeds then go for the N4, if you need the LTE then most obvious choice is not to purchase.
Not sure how 3g speeds are in the States as we've only just got LTE in the UK so not much use to us having LTE phones as of yet.
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LTE is not important to me and that's why I'm getting it on first day!
HSDPA is still pretty damned fast for web browsing. Unless you're download big files, not much benefit to LTE.
like said above, if you care about speed and your area has LTE, ignore Nexus 4, else buy it. Simple. I sold my S3 as I can live with HSPA.
cc999 said:
Thinking about the Nexus 4 and getting rid of my SGS3 but this bugs me:
Test Date: Nov 6, 2012 11:08:55 am
Connection Type: Lte
Server: Clifton, NJ
Download: 40652 kbps
Upload: 10838 kbps
Ping: 99 ms
No LTE on the Nexus 4!
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Are you in contract with AT&T? If so, you will be limited to 3G and that would be a huge step backwards for you. If you are not on contract, see how TMobiles HSPA +42 coverage looks in your area. If you can get a strong signal, I don't think it will be as much of a deal breaker as just 3G would be.
Either way, your current speeds are ridiculous!.
I'm in Boston and can't even get 1mb/s on 3G. I cannot wait for the Nexus 4, I have excellent HSPA +42 coverage at my house and work :cyclops:
The lack of LTE is sad, but I've decided that I can live without it for a year. The benefits of Nexus software outweight the crazy fast download/upload speeds.
Furthermore, the low (comparatively) off-contract price and high resale value of Nexus phones makes this a low-risk purchase.
N ot that I have one, but I prolly wouldn't update If I had one.
E veryone says that the difference isn't that great.
V errily you may find that its a lot of work for a little gain.
E ven if the gain is big, it still seems terrible to deal with selling to me.
R eally tho, its all personal preference.
G otta really think about it I guess.
O nly you can decide if its worth it.
N oone here can really persuade you can they?
N otice though that the specs are better on the N4
A ctually they are really better.
G iven the pre-reviews tho, there may be some issues with heat.
I would wait a week or two after release. see if its really what you want?
V exing question none the same.
E ventually you'll come to an answer I am sure.
Y oull decide whats best i am sure.
O utside viewing angles are great on the phone I hear.
U nderstand its a question of what you want.
U nder these circumstances I can certianly see your delima tho.
P hone changing is cereal budniss.
LTE doesn't matter to me, why? Because I'm not paying the outrageous prices per month that contract plans come with for 1 person. Its a easy $90+ per month and then you don't even get unlimited minutes and get a usual crappy 2GB mobile data.
The nexus 4 I think will help usher in prepaid plans into the U.S.A and the value it brings.
Straight Talk $45/month unlimited and T-Mobiles $30/month will highly be used on this new phone.
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I just noticed something, on the xda app, the first letters of each line made "never gonna give you up" lol
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I just noticed something, on the xda app, the first letters of each line made "never gonna give you up" lol
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Prolly more noticeable on a PC.
I'm getting the same speeds around Woodbridge NJ, but my battery drains so fast you can watch it die out. I'd gladly give up LTE for a battery that lasts from the time I wake up to the time I go to sleep.
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I'm getting the same speeds around Woodbridge NJ, but my battery drains so fast you can watch it die out. I'd gladly give up LTE for a battery that lasts from the time I wake up to the time I go to sleep.
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I would not mind it either but I am reading the battery life is not that good on the Nexus 4.
If I take the plunge and accept losing the lte speed and the battery life is not good
that would be a major disappointment. What do you think?
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gulbir101 said:
I just noticed something, on the xda app, the first letters of each line made "never gonna give you up" lol
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rick roll reference?
Fact - Most 24 hour reviews can't measure battery performance well at all. Sites that have had the phone for a week+ say battery life is fine.
Fact - LG has historically had horrible battery life.
Honestly, the best thing to do is NOT order it right away, but wait a month or two for QC issues to pass and see what longer term results look like with the phone. That being said, we all know that most of us are going to jump on the N4 the first day or so, caution be damned. At least we'll be able to sell it for CLOSE to what we paid if we're not happy.
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I would not mind it either but I am reading the battery life is not that good on the Nexus 4.
If I take the plunge and accept losing the lte speed and the battery life is not good
that would be a major disappointment. What do you think?
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It really depends on what you want to do with your nexus. I personally don't need the Internet speed.
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It really depends on what you want to do with your nexus. I personally don't need the Internet speed.
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I think about 2 posts b4 the lte people roll in....
I'm really t tempted to cancel my Verizon contract sell my s3,buy a nexus4 and switch over to straight talk. but I'm kind of scared I'll lose my number or something will go wrong while setting it up and i won't have any service.
Anyone know if switching to straight talk from Verizon is a rather painless process?and what about Verizon's ETF? Do they send you a bill or can you party it off online?
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I'm really t tempted to cancel my Verizon contract sell my s3,buy a nexus4 and switch over to straight talk. but I'm kind of scared I'll lose my number or something will go wrong while setting it up and i won't have any service.
Anyone know if switching to straight talk from Verizon is a rather painless process?and what about Verizon's ETF? Do they send you a bill or can you party it off online?
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Personally I think it's stupid to cancel your contract, sell your phone, and then buy a new phone on a pre-paid plan like Straight Talk in an attempt to save money. For one, the ETF is going to kill you (I have a $225 ETF on Verizon and only 4 months left), then you have the hit on selling your phone and buying a new N4. It will take months to make up the fees you were charged by leaving Verizon early, mean time you will be paying that off while having slower speeds, worse customer service, and no store that you can walk into if you're having an issue and get a replacement phone right then and there.
I want a N4 as well, but I think I'll get one and then just pop in a T-Mobile or Straight Talk SIM when I feel like trying out T-Mobile or AT&T, the rest of the time I can just tether.
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My dad just kicked my at&t dell streaks azz in the dirt here in Atlanta with his new Thunderbolt! I mean he had download and upload speeds higher than home internet. Got me kind of pissed so I was wondering if I should switch?
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Depends can you still get unlimited with att. If not then you should switch to Verizon cause at the moment its unlimited at 30 bucks.
Yes I have an Unlimited grandfathered plan with AT&T. I also have heard that AT&T network is going to be the best in the long run.
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Yes I have an Unlimited grandfathered plan with AT&T. I also have heard that AT&T network is going to be the best in the long run.
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"Best" is very subjective. A lot depends on where you live, work, and spend most of your time and who has better coverage in those areas. For me, the customer service is just as important and on that side, VZW gets the nod above AT&T any day from me.
Verizions LTE is really good supposedly, I only have an Inc2 so I sadly won't know the actual specs
If (as it seems) you live in a Verizon 4G area, I'd say another factor to look at is when at&t plans to put 4G where you are. If it's going to be a year or more, you could switch to verizon for a while, then switch back to at&t later if you think their network is faster/better for you. Maybe you'll find you like Verizon better in the mean time, maybe not.
Extremely great points ... I think I am going to chill atm but I hope AT&T gets LTE soon ... Even if they do get it soon Ill have to upgrade my phone and Im not really interested in doing that atm.
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I'm in the same boat as you. It's absolutely driving me up the wall. I could care less about voice. I use a ton, A TON, of data. I don't have a home computer and, obviously, home Internet connection. My mobile is IT. The chance to put on a pair of big boy pants, right now, and play with unlimited LTE on a Charge is incredibly tempting.
The problems I see, if I leave the unlimited data on AT&T? I'll never go back since they have the ridiculous data caps. And when the T-Mobile merger happens, and yes, it will, there is simply too much money at stake for it to fail. No more unlimited data for T-Mobile. At that point I've effectively ruled out GSM. No more phone hopping and swapping unless Verizon enables LTE SIM swapping.
Who the heck knows when the AT&T LTE network is going to launch? They have problems running a 3G network. But say it's this fall? The merger will go through, T-Mobile will be eaten, and almost instantly AT&T will have as super big boy LTE network? At that point I'll be, pardon the phrase, sh___ing my pants since I didn't wait.
I'll concede I have have a couple hypotheticals in here but I'm open to any advice from my fellow members. Thoughts? Advice? Spare Change?
There is a link on xda somewhere that had att's migration to lte for the end of this year. only had about a half dozen listed, and I think three were in texas. Even when it does gets turned on, there's nothing to say they want cap transmission speeds like they do now. If you don't have the Iphone, your not on their preferred list. I agree that you could probably switch and come back when they upgrade, but there goes an umlimited plan you will not get back. If you are on the unlimited plan, they may still throttle after you pass the 2 gig mark. They are so greedy, it will stink for the consumer if the get t-mobile.
at&t LTE will be a looooong time coming, last i heard they are expecting it in 2013.
if you can wait that long....nevermind...move to VzW
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at&t LTE will be a looooong time coming, last i heard they are expecting it in 2013.
if you can wait that long....nevermind...move to VzW
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Any hard links to that date? I go back an forth by the day. Part of me wants to grab a Charge and play. Part of me screams to stop and wait.
Wait for AT&T...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/t-mobile-flips-on-42mbps-hspa-across-55-markets-to-launch-rock/
Our phones capable of taking advantage of that at all?
Maybe faster speeds? Maybe that is why my data kept dropping today.
It might mean better speeds all around, but wondering if this is something where the device/hardware has to be capable of supporting such speeds. Roommate has a g2x, being that it's so new i'm telling my roommate to run a couple speed tests. Of course he is pissing around about it.
Edit: Here in pittsburgh at 1 a.m. both our phones (g2 and g2x) are stuck on EDGE. Obviously the 3g is down for the upgrade, yay! Plus with that rocket thing coming out tomorrow, they pretty much gotta have this done over night so people dont go and buy them and ***** that the speeds aren't what they are advertised as. So if nothing else, tomorrow morning we shall see!
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It might mean better speeds all around, but wondering if this is something where the device/hardware has to be capable of supporting such speeds. Roommate has a g2x, being that it's so new i'm telling my roommate to run a couple speed tests. Of course he is pissing around about it.
Edit: Here in pittsburgh at 1 a.m. both our phones (g2 and g2x) are stuck on EDGE. Obviously the 3g is down for the upgrade, yay! Plus with that rocket thing coming out tomorrow, they pretty much gotta have this done over night so people dont go and buy them and ***** that the speeds aren't what they are advertised as. So if nothing else, tomorrow morning we shall see!
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I get almost get 4g/3g everywhere here at san diego, never goes to edge
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I get almost get 4g/3g everywhere here at san diego, never goes to edge
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Well me neither. But tonight we are stuck on EDGE. Kinda obvious that something is going on.
After reading this, i am starting to think that this will affect our devices and all 4g devices...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/t-mobile-upgrading-hspa-network-to-42mbps-this-year/
The radio on our phones still top out at 14.4 Mbps HSPA+. You may however benefit if TMobile are also upgrading the backhaul to the cell site, you may get closer to the 14 Mbps max.
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I've been getting better data speeds lately mostly between 7-9 mbps download best being 10.51 download.
before today I was consistently getting 4-6 mbps download
Of course we're not gonna see a number even close to 42mbps. When it was at 21mbps we didn't even see that. We saw numbers at 5-8 average. With the increase, hopefully Tmobile's network can go head to head with Verizon's LTE cause its damn impressive. If we can at least hit 12mbps, we'll be good!
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Of course we're not gonna see a number even close to 42mbps. When it was at 21mbps we didn't even see that. We saw numbers at 5-8 average. With the increase, hopefully Tmobile's network can go head to head with Verizon's LTE cause its damn impressive. If we can at least hit 12mbps, we'll be good!
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I think because there is a difference between mbps and MBPS. I don't think anyone thought it would go that fast from the getgo. But before I used to get 1 to 4 mbps, now since testing about twenty different times all over the city the past 12 hours, it is consistently 3 to 8 mbps. Big change here.
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I think because there is a difference between mbps and MBPS.
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The difference is b versus B (lowercase versus upper case)
Mbps = megabit per second
MBps = megabyte per second
1 Byte = 8 bits
But in talking about data transfer rates, Mbps is pretty universally used. Often, people get lazy and just type "mpbs" when it should really be "Mbps".
But technically, the lower case "m" is not correct. It symbolizes 1/1000th, like millimeter (mm). Uppercase "M" as the prefix symbolizes one million, very different. But there really is no such thing as a thousandth of a bit. So when "mbps" is typed, its usually understood that it means megabit per second.
Not for our android devices. Only for that Rocket 3.0 thing sadly.
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They keep on getting better and better with connections (4G, LTE, etc) but sometime soon the batteries need to catch up with that development. All the people I know with EVO's can barely last the day. The HTC Thunderbolt apparently has HORRENDOUS battery life when using the LTE network. Browsing and such is amazingly fast on it, but it ruins the battery life. I don't see the point in using these blazing fast speeds when the phone itself lasts half a day.
In general all this pisses me off. The connections keep getting better and faster, yet we keep getting more and more caps and restrictions placed on it to barely even utilize it. It's really getting out of control and ridiculous IMHO.
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They keep on getting better and better with connections (4G, LTE, etc) but sometime soon the batteries need to catch up with that development. All the people I know with EVO's can barely last the day. The HTC Thunderbolt apparently has HORRENDOUS battery life when using the LTE network. Browsing and such is amazingly fast on it, but it ruins the battery life. I don't see the point in using these blazing fast speeds when the phone itself lasts half a day.
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I think most people just accept that cell phones are supposed to last only a day. I dont think it's on any carriers/manufacturers priority list. It's just accepted knowledge at this point. Were not using piece of garbage clamshell razors that can last 3-4 days no more sadly I mean really when you look at how advanced and how much our phones can do, it really is a miracle of god that it can even last a day with such a small form factor and battery.
G2 and G2x can only run 14.4Mbps that's the max for our phone just the new vibrant 4G can run to 21.+Mbps and those 4G cell site upgrades aren't for the releasing of Rocket 3.0 only, android phones, tablets, web connect and anything that t-mobile sells that has web are all included.
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At least the new rate plans that rolled out Sunday have a 10GB option. I would prefer a true unlimited option, but at least it is not going the other way like ATT and Verizon with smaller data allowances and overage charges.
I do HATE the new advertising though. We are now supposed to answer the phones with "thank you for calling T-mobile, home of the $10 unlimited data plan". I'm sorry but 200MB is not even in the same ballpark of unlimited.
I can confirm speeds now of around 6-8 Mbps. Pretty nice bump. I do agree with the unlimited thing being BS. All the carriers but Sprint have jumped on the cap wagon. That being said, I'm liking the new speeds. My wife has the Thunderbolt but I can still laugh at her pathetic "3G" speeds. (LTE is not here in Portland, OR and won't be for some time) Now if we can only hit that 12 Mbps mark.....
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At least the new rate plans that rolled out Sunday have a 10GB option. I would prefer a true unlimited option, but at least it is not going the other way like ATT and Verizon with smaller data allowances and overage charges.
I do HATE the new advertising though. We are now supposed to answer the phones with "thank you for calling T-mobile, home of the $10 unlimited data plan". I'm sorry but 200MB is not even in the same ballpark of unlimited.
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How much is the ten gig plan?
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I'm in Pittsburgh (South Hills) and I've seen almost a double in data speeds since the turn on. Before, my average speed was 1-3Mb/s and 6Mb/s was something that I'd only get for wifi or maybe at like 3-4am on my way into work, I consistently hit 5-6 all afternoon yesterday. Even if we can't fully utilize it, it did benefit G2 users in some way.
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In general all this pisses me off. The connections keep getting better and faster, yet we keep getting more and more caps and restrictions placed on it to barely even utilize it. It's really getting out of control and ridiculous IMHO.
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Its exactly because speeds are getting faster that they are breaking it down to different plans. They don't want the network going down.
I know LTE speeds are not achieved with international SIM-Free S3. I can trade-off that one feature for many other things. I use Non-smartphone plan for 15$ vs 25$(LTE) a month which is pretty cool with unlimited data and i get speed up to 1.5Mbps(which is ok as i have wifi availability everywhere). Importantly the hardware, there is a possibility of Krait processor coming in for LTE handsets(rumor as heard). I don't want to take chances of losing Wolfson DAC this time(US LTE variants might have a different chipset).
Share your thoughts.
I am getting the international version because when I got my skyrocket I sold it right away profiting $500. I got the phone for FREE.
That being said, I live in the LA area and there is 4G LTE. But I have a limited data plan anyways and always have WiFi at work and at home (fios).
I'd rather have the Wolf, and Exynos over the S4 as the Exynos blows the S4 and Tegra 3 out of the water.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
U guys are yanks right? I think you should wait till the American branded versions are out.
There's a possibility they could be better with a much more appealing design.
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Agreed, but if all you're getting is 1.5Mbps, then I would scream bloody murder. I'm in Austin, TX and using international SGS2 on AT&T and get up to 7.5Mbps...!
I am on that plan and get avg 3-5mbs with mine. I have gotten 7-8mbs a few times and 12mbs at 1AM.
I just used 109GB on that plan and not a peep out of AT&T. LOL
I am going with international, if the ATT version ends up looking better or for some reason have better specs, than I will just buy that on contract and sell the international version. Not really worried about lte.
Also now that the ATT htc x one is the only version with a locked bootloader I am very hesitant to wait for the SIII ATT version.
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U guys are yanks right? I think you should wait till the American branded versions are out.
There's a possibility they could be better with a much more appealing design.
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I highly doubt it, there is a big chance it will be using the S4.
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I know LTE speeds are not achieved with international SIM-Free S3. I can trade-off that one feature for many other things. I use Non-smartphone plan for 15$ vs 25$(LTE) a month which is pretty cool with unlimited data and i get speed up to 1.5Mbps(which is ok as i have wifi availability everywhere). Importantly the hardware, there is a possibility of Krait processor coming in for LTE handsets(rumor as heard). I don't want to take chances of losing Wolfson DAC this time(US LTE variants might have a different chipset).
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I am getting close to 3MPS DL (provisioned on MediaNet, not Smartphone) As long as I can stream movie trailers without hiccups Its all good. Thats about the only time we use Carrier data while at a restruant deciding what movie to see...We have not used an ATT branded phones since the Captivate and won't be buying any soon except to sell.
We are saving over $600 a year on two smart phones. Plus the sale of the upgrades. It's an easy decision to buy the International versions on so many levels. even IF ATT had the IMEIs and billed for a Smart Phone in whcih case we go to Straight Talk. We don't need LTE for anything .
And the Wolfson DAC AFTER Supercurio does his magic is well worth the price of entry. But like all of our International devices so far SGS IIs and a Note, we buy used. Don't need a warranty as I void it anyway rooting and ROMming...LOL
Thee should be used ones becoming available in a couple months. In the mean time let the early adopters discover the issues and the Developers fix em. I can wait..........I think........or not.
Yea I choose to get the unlocked international version to ream att. For $15 I get unlimited data and I usually pull 6 down and 2 up. I can stream netflix, hulu, rdio and tunein radio without worrying about data usage.
not to mention hd video podcasts that i download all the time to my phone with doggcatcher ... all of this and i didnt even mention torrenting lol
I go through about 40-50 gigs a month.
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Yea I choose to get the unlocked international version to ream att. For $15 I get unlimited data and I usually pull 6 down and 2 up. I can stream netflix, hulu, rdio and tunein radio without worrying about data usage.
not to mention hd video podcasts that i download all the time to my phone with doggcatcher ... all of this and i didnt even mention torrenting lol
I go through about 40-50 gigs a month.
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People brag about anything these days, even their own data usage.
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People brag about anything these days, even their own data usage.
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Only if you believe the BS
Can u guys post ur APN settings? Mine only gets 2mb down.
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Can u guys post ur APN settings? Mine only gets 2mb down.
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You likely have the right settings. If you are not provisioned for a "Smart Phone" from ATT you will be on the MediaNet plan and your DL speeds will vary a lot and never really go that high,
. Mine go from 1.5 to 3mps. I have never had issues with streaming though when I needed.
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You likely have the right settings. If you are not provisioned for a "Smart Phone" from ATT you will be on the MediaNet plan and your DL speeds will vary a lot and never really go that high,
. Mine go from 1.5 to 3mps. I have never had issues with streaming though when I needed.
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based on "those" info, I was wondering why I can only get 2mb on my none smart phone data plan. thanks for your info.
Anybody know the official price for this thing cuz I don't want no overprices nonsense like the gn.
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Anybody know the official price for this thing cuz I don't want no overprices nonsense like the gn.
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wait for 6 months and you'll pay about 100 bucks less.
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Only if you believe the BS
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It's a fact, easily do that amount of data a month. But I would be jealous of me if I had to pay more than $15 for not unlimited.
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wait for 6 months and you'll pay about 100 bucks less.
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I 'd say 4 months after the first ones are shipped and $200+ less Used. I haven't bought a new International phone yet. Warranty iffy in the US and I fully intend to void it anyway rooting and ROMing it. May as well buy an already rooted device from someone reliable. Paid Less than $450 for the SGS IIs and Less than $600 for the Note. Those savings alone goes a long way toward the SGS III.
All I hope is that they will release both a LTE and non-LTE version in the US, like the SGS2.
Wishful thinking.
I'm getting international version and I am on t mobile. I have HSPA+ right now on my phone with them but honestly... Edge can still download stuff.
I'm a little upset that it won't support HSPA but I can live without it. More and more places that my friends and I frequent are putting up free WiFi so I feel like in a year's time WiFi will be so abundant that getting LTE devices won't be such a big deal.
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hey fellows,
out of curiosity, what would you favor between the 2 for this Nexus.. a price drop or LTE?
Price drop because with limited data lte isn't of much use.
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hey fellows,
out of curiosity, what would you favor between the 2 for this Nexus.. a price drop or LTE?
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Definitely LTE, I was ready to jump ship to AT&T but now I don't even know if I'll get this... waiting to see if any good LTE options become available in the next few weeks.
LTE is a dogs breakfast, especially in the US, when {again} it has decided to use different frequencies to most of the rest of the world...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte/in/3335719
%#$! lte... it's overpriced / not ready for prime time.
The $299 / 349 price for the N4 is insane and well worth it.
A price drop past the 300/350 mark =0?
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A price drop past the 300/350 mark =0?
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i meant the current price drop, the 350$ mark.
Oh, definitely the price drop. I mean, I'm not using my phone for anything that requires 42 mbps or any super high speeds anyway. As long as my YouTube videos are loading properly, which is the main thing I would need for speed, I'm okay.
Between LTE being overly battery hungry and the lack of unlimited data, I say no freaking way I want LTE! I've had LTE before and it's eye opening fast, but I think HSPA+ is the golden ticket right now. It's very battery friendly and plenty fast enough for a mobile handset.
I've had 2 Gnex's (maguro and toro) and I can say that the battery on the Maguro Gnex is easily 50% better. As power hungry as these mobile platforms are these days, until they make improvements on LTE power consumption, I will not have another LTE phone as I've had 3 of them and they're all power hungry!
i think the question is better asked, price drop or cdma compatible? because this phone is useless to me having Sprint about to switch to Verizon network...
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i think the question is better asked, price drop or cdma compatible? because this phone is useless to me having Sprint about to switch to Verizon network...
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A cdma nexus just doesn't seem like a real nexus:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
And there's precious little to suggest working with carriers is even in Google's best interests, or in the best interests of Nexus customers. The Galaxy Nexus was announced last year with a promised LTE version on Verizon, but the carrier held back releasing the phone for months to promote its own Droid RAZR instead. Google eventually grew tired of waiting and sent unlocked HSPA+ devices to reviewers. And software updates for Nexus phones sold through carriers have been problematic as well: it took the Verizon three full months to disseminate the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update to its Galaxy Nexus, slightly longer than Sprint.
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I definitely like the current price, I will be selling my att sgs3 for the nexus4 without a doubt in my mind. I don't really even get LTE in these parts of CT so lte is not a deciding factor at all.
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It's not fair :'(
My grandparents live in a rural area and its where I spend about 1/4 of the year. Tmobile and Att are GPRS, but Sprint and Verizon have 3g. Its the only internet there and I need reliable internet for work. I can't get the new Nexus.
I know I'm in a small boat of people but I'm still going to post my sob story. I just love the Nexus program.
ap3604 said:
A cdma nexus just doesn't seem like a real nexus:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
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while i agree the updates take longer... i also prefer to use Sprint/Verizon over GSM options...
I understand its coming to T-Mobile, but will the Nexus 4 work on AT&T's HSPA+ network?
I will take $350 price point over LTE.
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kanariya said:
I will take $350 price point over LTE.
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I agree with you there, I'm not too big on LTE myself, mainly for the fact that the faster my data is being processed, the more money I have to spend on data overages. But that's just me.
I would pay $500+ for 32GB and LTE if only Google would give me the option and take my money.
Instead I'm stuck between choosing between a capable phone and one that will get updates.
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%#$! lte... it's overpriced / not ready for prime time.
The $299 / 349 price for the N4 is insane and well worth it.
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Sounds like Fanboy talk to me. Brings me back to the Iphone 4s launch.
My GS3 gets great battery life and radios are getting better everyday.
No LTE is a dealbreaker. You can't honestly tell me that having this outdated technology is adequate. Not when most people keep heir phones for 2 yrs. T-mobile might not even be around in 2 yrs.
One of Androids biggest selling points is that they are always pushing the boundaries of technology. This is a huge step back.
One of the reasons, Apple products are so solidly built is they wait till the tech is old before they incorporate them into their products. I could get a cutting edge sailboat built but who uses sailboats. The Nexus 4 for is a cutting edge sailboat.
A 1.5ghz Quadcore Krait that's about a hair better than the International GS3. They could have at least gone Quad core Cortex A15.
All this so that I can have "Vanilla Android", if that's the price no thank you I'll stick with Cyanogenmod & AOKP.
Wouldn't mind a lte option but screw all the us carrier nonsense
Id rather have a dumb phone then have a CDMA device or anything at all to do with Verizon or sprint.
Anyone have recent experiences with either? Obviously, I am on sprint, but was thinking of making the switch. It would probably save me around 60 a month from sprint since I have two lines...and thats even with my discount with Sprint. Basically, I just want to know about service and coverage in general. Was there a difference in signal between the two in your everyday activities? I still want a slider phone and you can get a cheap and clean mytouch 4g slide for around 150. I want to stay with the slider and the upfront cost of the phone and savings with tmobile would pay for itself in 5 or 6 months. Plus i do not think a decent slider will be released anytime soon. Thoughts? Thanks in advance
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I convinced my girlfriend to switch to TMobile from at&t. She gets decent downlink speeds on their hspa+ (about 12mbps in certain areas) and her coverage is pretty good. Sprint sucks in my opinion, having been on their network in the past and having reports from my brother (also on sprint). I would switch, especially if it will save you money and you don't have an etf.
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The photon Q really wasn't a bad phone. It just never took off
HTC ONE! Everything your phone isn't!
I love T-Mobile. In my area they blow sprint completely out of the water. Fastest download speeds ive had werr around 15-16 mbps wherr with sprint in the same places od get 300kbps...only thing i dont like about T-Mobile is the truly unlimited plan is 70 per month.
Also if you get the My touch MAKE sure its the HTC one. If not your throwing money away.
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I have no experience with T-mobile but I absolutely hate sprint speeds and plan to jump ship as soon as my contract is up.
T-Mobile is good if your in an area with decent coverage. But they are areas coverage isn't good. Where I live it is great. Even in smaller rural towns. Seemed to be similar in Arizona and California. Went to Michigan and it was horrible in Lansing. All depends on your area.
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I love T-Mobile. In my area they blow sprint completely out of the water. Fastest download speeds ive had werr around 15-16 mbps wherr with sprint in the same places od get 300kbps...only thing i dont like about T-Mobile is the truly unlimited plan is 70 per month.
Also if you get the My touch MAKE sure its the HTC one. If not your throwing money away.
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Yeah...that's what I've been reading. Do you think the htc 4g slide is still a decent phone? I know they are still pretty active with the development of it. But it is almost two years old. But it is a hard deal to pass up for 150. I think the newest tmo slider is the Samsung relay, but the support for it is small.
Yeah, sprint service is hit or miss by the day and the data is really slow. Coverage really hasn't been an issue with sprint as it has been great, but the data speed varies tremendously.
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lvpre said:
Yeah...that's what I've been reading. Do you think the htc 4g slide is still a decent phone? I know they are still pretty active with the development of it. But it is almost two years old. But it is a hard deal to pass up for 150. I think the newest tmo slider is the Samsung relay, but the support for it is small.
Yeah, sprint service is hit or miss by the day and the data is really slow. Coverage really hasn't been an issue with sprint as it has been great, but the data speed varies tremendously.
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Well its def better than the off brand myTouch lol.
But in all seriousness they have tons of ports most of them have broken features. And that's not taking a shot at the Team SwArM because I am still with them just haven't devved in a while.
Battery life on the newer JB ROMs will suck some juice at a rate of up to 2% per few minutes of screen on time etc. And with every release of Android it will be like that (aosp).
Sliders are dying man, the relay was a fail...does it even have a dedicated forum topic yet?
*Go Nexus and never look back *:beer:
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