Value of S-Pen if you have bad penmanship - Galaxy Note 10.1 General

Haven't really latched on to the S-Pen, in fact it is getting neglected! Can you give me any tips to find a connection with the S-Pen or advise that I should forget it exists???
I love using apps like EverNote and OneNote for tracking my project notes at the office, but I tend to feel the need to have a keyboard to be productive in these tools.
With the S-Pen, my initial thoughts would be to rely on hand-writing recognition, well that was a bust... S-Note dropped text all over the place, it looked like hell. Trying to undo or edit improperly recognized text was a nightmare.
As I understand now, most folks that use the S-Pen for note taking are NOT using recognition and leaving their notes as "hand-written scrawl"...
I gave the unrecognized, hand notes a chance for about 30 seconds and realized my penmanship is worthy of a brain-surgeon!! My penmanship seems even worse on the S-Pen than real paper and pen.
What to do?

I say practice with it. I have dysgraphia and once I got in the habit of using it taking notes in Evernote at meetings it works amazingly, even with my horrid handwriting.

MNDaveC said:
Haven't really latched on to the S-Pen, in fact it is getting neglected! Can you give me any tips to find a connection with the S-Pen or advise that I should forget it exists???
I love using apps like EverNote and OneNote for tracking my project notes at the office, but I tend to feel the need to have a keyboard to be productive in these tools.
With the S-Pen, my initial thoughts would be to rely on hand-writing recognition, well that was a bust... S-Note dropped text all over the place, it looked like hell. Trying to undo or edit improperly recognized text was a nightmare.
As I understand now, most folks that use the S-Pen for note taking are NOT using recognition and leaving their notes as "hand-written scrawl"...
I gave the unrecognized, hand notes a chance for about 30 seconds and realized my penmanship is worthy of a brain-surgeon!! My penmanship seems even worse on the S-Pen than real paper and pen.
What to do?
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The only thing that helped with my illegible scrawl is 7Notes with mazec from the Market. Well worth the price. Prior to 7Notes I couldn't use HWR. My writing is very, very bad.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...Zlbmtub3dsZWRnZS5zZXZlbm5vdGVzcHJvZHVjdGVuIl0.

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Handwritting / Taking notes?

Anybody tried taking handwritten notes (with a stylus) on this thing? I am wondering how that would work with your hand resting on the screen. I have a feeling it doesn't...
And if someone could tell if the precision is enough to select 4 pixels wide and 4 pixels high (or at least 8px wide, 8px high) objects with capacitive stylus it would be nice. I have an application with such small objects that I want to use through VNC and wonder if Xoom will be good enough for this.
Ordered a stylus today to try it.
I am also looking for a good app for this. iPad had some good apps but all I find now are for the Android phones.
If someone has suggestions on this I would like to know.
rljohnson said:
Ordered a stylus today to try it.
I am also looking for a good app for this.
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MaplePaint looks ok for taking notes.
Also, Repligo looks pretty awesome for annotating PDF documents. Simply print any doc to PDF, put it on your XOOM, and off you go. You can do handwritten drawings, notes, you can highlight, etc. and save your annotations back to your PDF. That one I definitely like!
But again, I believe that the hand resting on the screen will throw the whole things off and the stylus won't work.
I haven't tried it yet, but WritePad also looks promising. It's not free though and also not sure on the hand resting on the screen issue.
Try ezPDF!
I'm hoping one the HTC Flyer comes out their scribe app will get pulled out and put to real use on the XOOM.
RaptorMD said:
I'm hoping one the HTC Flyer comes out their scribe app will get pulled out and put to real use on the XOOM.
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Anything is possible but I would not hold my breath. Scribe is more than software. The stylus is made specifically for the digitizer and the software may not work with different hardware.
I'm still waiting for a killer notetaking app that allows stylus use. I have found Handrite to be serviceable. It doesn't let you rest your palm, but that hasn't been too much of an issue for me so far.
I've written the makers of Penultimate for the ipad and they responded that as of early March, they have no plans for an Android port :/

Best styles note taking app?

Going to pickup my Stylus now and wondering what app should I get? I want to be able to take notes, then save to word or pdf and view later
which stylus are you getting out of interest?
Well, Handrite so far has probably been the best 'let me write **** down now' app, and its pretty simple and quick.
I think I have installed every note taking app in the market and have settled on it.
I'd like to see a 'wrist gaurd' so to speak so I can actually lay my hand on the screen and write - ipad has a note app that does it.
There are other more complex apps like Evernote that let you sync stuff to the cloud - but those are a little too much for my need, mainly my notes are written and just temporary 'todos' or 'how todos'
BTW, if you get the Griffin stylus - return it , the tip is to soft and you'll end up scratching the screen (thank god for screen protectors)
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which stylus are you getting out of interest?
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I got this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16858995181&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4169959&SID=10qk6ik2echjo
Kinda bummed, im left handed and whenever i try to write my wrist is on screen and the stylus doesnt work....
Stylus performance
How does the stylus itself work though, assuming your wrist isn't touching the screen? I really want to try one out, but not for $25. I feel like the foam tip would make writing a bit weird. Does it?
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How does the stylus itself work though, assuming your wrist isn't touching the screen? I really want to try one out, but not for $25. I feel like the foam tip would make writing a bit weird. Does it?
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its decent, i wont be using it for writing. I have the Xoom keyboard i guess ill use that when I need to. I am just going to use it for normal stuff when i dont want fingerprints everywhere
If you just want to take notes I would use Handwrite, solid app.
If you are Interested in drawing I recommend Sketchbook
And if your looking to take notes on like presentation : ezPDF
I've been trying out every hand writing app I can find. So far, the two I like most are MaplePaint (for quick handwritten notes/diagrams) and WritePad for more detailed documents.
I should note that WritePad is a keyboard replacement rather than a self contained app. You can use in conjunction with any text input (I've been using it with Quickoffice). I've been playing around with the WritePad free trial (you have to get it off www.phatware.com) all day and I'm more or less convinced it is worth the $10.
Does evernote allow you to write notes with a styles?
I had a pen like that but the screen is not very responsive if you write very fast(like everybody do)
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HTC Flyer has that 'stylus interupt' thing doesnt it? where you can lean on the screen as it 'disables' the finger touch when you are writing with a stylus...
thought it sounded a good idea

happy with the S-Pen, if yes explain

I am NOT very happy with my S-Pen because I have to press REALLY hard before the S-Pen touch register on the screen.
This makes the following very hard to do and not practical:
- Taking notes: kinda hard trying to take notes when I have to keep "jabbing" the screen really hard
- Drawing: forget about the pressure sensitive feature, there is only one for me --> press really hard!
I tried replacing the S-Pen (bought one from my local Fry's Electronics), no go.
How about you? Can you use the S-Pen on practical day-to-day basis...or this is just another "gimmick" for you?
I don't have to press any harder than I would with paper and a pencil. Although even now and again it will stop writing, like show a space between two lines because I didn't press hard enough. A lot of peoples are apparently too sensitive sometimes and will start to write above the screen... Samsung seems to have screwed up a few things with the note
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Looks like you have a problems with touch screen.
I try to use it. But always end up shoving it back in it's holder and just tapping out texts the old way.
Find it difficult to write with anyway, it doesn't flow naturally and seems a little behind all the time. Not got use to how fast or slow to use it.
The S pen is ok. Its not as good as I thought it was and I actually only use it to make rage comics and post them on 9gag.
Its not very useful for taking down notes on the spot
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My Problem is as follow :
There are 2 zones in my screen that don't respond to the pen at the First time,
I attached 2 screenshots showing :
The First with the blank untouchable 2 zones,
The second, is the same try, but I added some drawings later with my finger.
So this means that my screen is OK, and May be something is wrong with the S pen.
Any body experienced the same issue?
Sorry for the second screenshot, The volume bar came in
But you can clearly See the cercle with the + incidents. At the buttom zone.
Do you have a case with magnets?
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I use mine to play draw something and its great, love how accurate it is. Makes you seems like a right artist haahah
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Do you have a case with magnets?
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I tell you what,
Even If I stayed a month digging, I would'nt guess!
Thank you Thank you Thank you so much.
You saved my note
The First thing I will do now, is to throw my case away, and look for a non magnetic one.
Take a look at my thread, That could interest you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620625
My S Pen works fine for writing and drawing. It's basically the same as writing with a pen for me in terms of pressure. Granted, it is thinner and a little less friction on the surface than pen and paper.
I write a lot on whiteboards for work and it is a little similar to that for me. When writing on a whiteboard, you don't anchor your hand on the surface like you would with paper.
Sometimes if I want to draw very accurately, I will anchor my writing hand on the fingers of the hand holding the phone that stick out from the right hand side. But I find writing like this slower.
I use the S Pen a lot more than I though I would before I bought it. I originally thought it would be a gimmick and just wanted the big screen, but I use it a lot for taking handwritten notes in FreeNote+ (I find this quicker than dealing with text conversion and auto-correction) and also find it a lot more accurate for drawing and photo editing.
I also find myself using it for Swype quite a lot. It's quicker than using my fingers. I think because there's less friction and you have a longer reach, so you hand doesn't actually have to move as much.
Also, the accuracy is excellent for some games like Fruit Ninja and Deer Hunter.
It works well for me. Though, need to get a bit of used to.
I use it mainly for taking notes...
I use mine when I am wearing gloves. No need to remove them.
I use it for taking notes an play DrawSomething! I love it. Everybody prases my drawings and at several iPhone players say they envy my Note and wish they had one
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Those who enjoy using the on, do you see any issue with it? I.e. Pen not registering in screen, must press hard, etc.
Alexanderbooth said:
I use mine to play draw something and its great, love how accurate it is. Makes you seems like a right artist haahah
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useful
I find the S-Pen incredibly useful whenever you want to write something down on the go.
I find it much faster to take out my phone and launch a smartly-placed app to start taking a quick note (phone number, adress, any work-related post-it...) rather than searching your pockets for something to write on and asking for a pen (though i still always carry one on me )
The trick is then to process the notes and not just leave them in that folder you never go to. Well, that just takes a little discipline.
As for good apps, i've only tried a few but i think the first important thing to look out for in such an app is it's capacity to transform you're wavery note-taking skills into a nice smooth handwritten text on the screen. The S-Memo tool does it pretty well but i would recommend something more like Papyrus (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1580716&highlight=papyrus) which has some pretty useful vector-imaging capabilities.
EDIT : I forgot to add that the s-pen is meant to work without pressure on the phone (though it still requires a minimum of contact), and works flawlessly on mine (i don't use cases or covers to protect the phone, i just take care of it.). Anyone needing to press hard on their phone for the s-pen to work has a problem, either with the phone or the pen. Consider having it checked.
I don't use it for all tasks, because that would just make things much harder. It's good for playing basic games though, like Draw Something, or just any other game where it feels better to use the S-Pen.
lanwarrior said:
Those who enjoy using the on, do you see any issue with it? I.e. Pen not registering in screen, must press hard, etc.
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No, I don't have such problem. Sometimes, I find it a bit sensitive than I had hoped.
If you have to press REALLY hard for it to register, it might be a good idea to go to a shop and test one out to see if it's the same as your unit.
Maybe try and test their S Pen with your phone to see if it's a problem with the S Pen or the screen.
I think the spen is to small for 1 handed users. But works perfectly fine for all spen activities.
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How I felt superior to someone sitting next me.

I am a college student and I use my Note 10.1 to take notes in classes that typing notes is not viable (e.g. engineering).
I noticed that a girl sitting next to me was also taking notes using a stylus and a tablet. So my immediate thought was "Is she also using a Note 10.1?" but I quickly realized she was using an iPad as soon as I looked at the tablet.
So she was using a capacitive stylus with a huge rubber tip and a tablet without palm rejection to take hand written notes on her iPad. I don't know what app she was using, but it looked pretty nice though. Because the tip is too big to right in normal size and it's hard to write anywhere but bottom of the screen without palm rejection, the app implemented designated writing area at the bottom. It basically zoomed a rectangular part of the notebook which you could drag around on the screen. But of course, it cannot compare to Note 10.1 with an actual stylus for writing.
So that's why I felt superior haha. I didn't pay too much attention to her afterwards, but she probably saw me taking notes on my tablet too.
About taking notes with Note 10.1 in general, it's been great. I have successfully gone paperless. I bring a single notebook around for all of my classes just in case, but I never had to use it. In classes where I can type notes, I just use a bluetooth keyboard because I can type faster than write. I don't think I will ever need to go back to taking notes on paper.
In my opinion, this thread can't offer much to this section.
Closed.

[Q] What do you use the SPen to do?

I recently lost my Note 3 and didn't really have enough time with my first smartphone to find any major flaws with it other than Samsung's bloatware. However, with inevitable arrival of more phablets with impressive hardware, I was wondering if I should just get another Note 3 or wait.
The one thing that's making me consider waiting is the fact that I never really used the S Pen. The pen window never really seemed all that useful for me. That new app Cover seems like it'd take care of any fast switching I'd need to do anyway.
The only thing I ever used the S Pen for was editing photos, but even then I didn't feel as if I really took full advantage of its accuracy. Maybe I used the wrong apps. S Note was cool, but it's much faster to just type things than write it. And writing phone numbers and saving them was also nifty, but wasn't anywhere near as fast as just opening the phonebook and adding a new contact.
So what do you use it for and do you have any recommendations?
lollercauster said:
I recently lost my Note 3 and didn't really have enough time with my first smartphone to find any major flaws with it other than Samsung's bloatware. However, with inevitable arrival of more phablets with impressive hardware, I was wondering if I should just get another Note 3 or wait.
The one thing that's making me consider waiting is the fact that I never really used the S Pen. The pen window never really seemed all that useful for me. That new app Cover seems like it'd take care of any fast switching I'd need to do anyway.
The only thing I ever used the S Pen for was editing photos, but even then I didn't feel as if I really took full advantage of its accuracy. Maybe I used the wrong apps. S Note was cool, but it's much faster to just type things than write it. And writing phone numbers and saving them was also nifty, but wasn't anywhere near as fast as just opening the phonebook and adding a new contact.
So what do you use it for and do you have any recommendations?
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I never used the pen with my last note and I don't use it with this one either.
Tbh I rarely use mine also, unless I'm jotting down a note at work for something I need to do later.. but even then I'm a left and find it awkward to write sometimes.
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i use it to pick things out from under my finger nails
do you guys mean it works with the phone. i thought it was like the bits of a swiss army knife
I use my S-Pen a lot. Mainly because I like to doodle and the fact I don't like finger marks on my nice clean screen. I don't have a protector on it at the minute. I also use the handwriting recognition when sending texts.
Also my mates little girl likes using my phone to draw, and I help her with her reading, writing and spelling on it. Fabulous tool!
English_Gentleman said:
I use my S-Pen a lot. Mainly because I like to doodle and the fact I don't like finger marks on my nice clean screen. I don't have a protector on it at the minute. I also use the handwriting recognition when sending texts.
Also my mates little girl likes using my phone to draw, and I help her with her reading, writing and spelling on it. Fabulous tool!
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Ha, never knew you could use handwriting recognition for sending texts, just tried it. Looks like it works in pretty much any typeable field.
Yes, late to the party I know....
Note 3 is my 1st phone with S Pen, after using it, I fall in love with it. I often take screenshot and then use S Pen to write something on it, it is really useful.

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