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low memkiller

does anybody else notice that none of the mem tweak apps work anymore? i still drop below 40 mem at times and my phone drags. any suggestions other than overclocking?

Are you using AutoKiller? Do you have Superuser 2.2.2? If you answered yes to both, downgrade to Superuser 2.1. Then AutoKiller will work again.

im using superuser 2.1 not 2.2. what mem setting do you guys think is best?

For me, Moderate keeps things smooth without killing too many apps that I would like to keep running for convenience. As long as my free RAM never goes under 30 MB, I'm relatively lag-free.

I've found Auto Memory Manager to be a great replacement for AutoKiller for these Froyo builds. The settings stick and the features are on par w/ the other program. I encourage you guys to give it a shot.

I use optimum for AutoKiller

well let me ask this then, whats considered normal for the hero as far as free ram left?

normal stock i'm left with crappy 12-25mb left. AK at optimum i usually have around 35-40. I i think as long as you don't go over the 100mb which seems to cause problems, you'll be fine.

theresthatguy said:
normal stock i'm left with crappy 12-25mb left. AK at optimum i usually have around 35-40. I i think as long as you don't go over the 100mb which seems to cause problems, you'll be fine.
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**** im good then...i average between 68-90 free with the occasional drop below 50.

Unusually high ram usage

Hey guys, what's normal ram usage for you?
Cause to me, what I'm getting seems higher than it should be.
I'm seeing well in excess of a gigabytes used when I'm not doing anything on it, even after I first restart, there's around a gig used. I removed apps I don't use, I'm running the latest release of PACrom, here's a screenshot I just took.
http://imgur.com/w5KGKJF
Also battery usage always seems high, could that be related possibly?
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1.3Gig is usually normal for touchwiz but for AOSP not try changing the Rom and see as for the battery check what apps are draining it

Yeah, that's normal.Mine is using 1 gib and I don't have any apps running.

Blackwolf10 said:
1.3Gig is usually normal for touchwiz but for AOSP not try changing the Rom and see as for the battery check what apps are draining it
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My run is AOSP based, and according to the settings, the screen uses most of it.
But I rarely have the brightness up high, and often battery widget says I'm using in excess of 1300mah D:
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I'm using stock ROM with Deodexed and Zipaligned apps, My RAM is 0.8GB when no apps is opened, and it goes to 1GB when few apps are opened

That is NOT NORMAL AT ALL... Using aosp based Roms like pacman and slim bean I have an average of 400mb used and like 1.4 free... I don't think I've ever passed 800mb running an aosp ROM or any ROM for a matter a fact... Check to male sure it doesn't count cached apps cause that takes up around a gig sometimes...

..... its normal if you have some widget running....
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There is no reason to care about ram usage on a Linux system.
In Linux, unused ram is wasted ram.
Using all your ram doesn't mean no more ram is available. It means that the system is storing everything its done recently in ram so its more quickly accessed if you try to use it again. If your ram is full and you need to do something else the system will effectively and efficiently push the lowest priority task out of ram to free up more for the new task.
Using all your ram does NOT slow the system down. It is not like Windows where freeing up ram makes everything run faster.
All this monitoring ram is pointless in a Linux based OS.
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Skipjacks said:
There is no reason to care about ram usage on a Linux system.
In Linux, unused ram is wasted ram.
Using all your ram doesn't mean no more ram is available. It means that the system is storing everything its done recently in ram so its more quickly accessed if you try to use it again. If your ram is full and you need to do something else the system will effectively and efficiently push the lowest priority task out of ram to free up more for the new task.
Using all your ram does NOT slow the system down. It is not like Windows where freeing up ram makes everything run faster.
All this monitoring ram is pointless in a Linux based OS.
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I fully agree with your clear explanations but in my case when I reach low memory level like 100 Mg the camera doesn't fully start (black window).
I am forced to reboot or clean as well.
I feel something is weird in this phone memory managment. (GT9500 model for me)

Skipjacks said:
There is no reason to care about ram usage on a Linux system.
In Linux, unused ram is wasted ram.
Using all your ram doesn't mean no more ram is available. It means that the system is storing everything its done recently in ram so its more quickly accessed if you try to use it again. If your ram is full and you need to do something else the system will effectively and efficiently push the lowest priority task out of ram to free up more for the new task.
Using all your ram does NOT slow the system down. It is not like Windows where freeing up ram makes everything run faster.
All this monitoring ram is pointless in a Linux based OS.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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Best answer ive seen c:
This takes me to my other question of could this be affecting battery life ?
Ive had the battery go from 100% down to 85% in a space of 20 minutes, with brightness on auto, and only using one app (LINE) :c
I remembered seeing other peoples comments on using only a few hundred meg of ram, and also seeing compliments on the battery life of the rom (PACrom) around those same posts, So im trying to figure out how to prolong my battery life as its pretty important to me, I dont really get a chance to charge throughout the day D:

CountParadox said:
Best answer ive seen c:
This takes me to my other question of could this be affecting battery life ?
Ive had the battery go from 100% down to 85% in a space of 20 minutes, with brightness on auto, and only using one app (LINE) :c
I remembered seeing other peoples comments on using only a few hundred meg of ram, and also seeing compliments on the battery life of the rom (PACrom) around those same posts, So im trying to figure out how to prolong my battery life as its pretty important to me, I dont really get a chance to charge throughout the day D:
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Your question has nothing to see about this thread subject, so be kind to REpost direct to q&A. iT will be a better audience able to quickly answer.

lolo9393 said:
Your question has nothing to see about this thread subject, so be kind to REpost direct to q&A. iT will be a better audience able to quickly answer.
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Will do!

available memory?

Can anyone of you download advance task killer from the android market/Google Play. Download and could you check how many memory do you have? When I bought my note, I had only 40% of memory available on my phone, which means about 800 MB, and I couldn't take advantage the rest of the 2+GB memory because phone has couple hundred apps preinstalled... Now I started clearing and un installing all these unnecessary apps and now I have about 1.6 GB memory available on my phone, and as a result of that I was able to get two days battery every day. Basically I can't finish my battery in one day regardless of the usage, which is really good....

bishaarcc said:
Can anyone of you download advance task killer from the android market/Google Play. Download and could you check how many memory do you have? When I bought my note, I had only 40% of memory available on my phone, which means about 800 MB, and I couldn't take advantage the rest of the 2+GB memory because phone has couple hundred apps preinstalled... Now I started clearing and un installing all these unnecessary apps and now I have about 1.6 GB memory available on my phone, and as a result of that I was able to get two days battery every day. Basically I can't finish my battery in one day regardless of the usage, which is really good....
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Zip aligning the apps should give you more RAM as well. but yeah, hibernating with greenify and freezing apps really cleans the used RAM footprint up and gives you much improved battery.

bishaarcc said:
Can anyone of you download advance task killer from the android market/Google Play. Download and could you check how many memory do you have? When I bought my note, I had only 40% of memory available on my phone, which means about 800 MB, and I couldn't take advantage the rest of the 2+GB memory because phone has couple hundred apps preinstalled... Now I started clearing and un installing all these unnecessary apps and now I have about 1.6 GB memory available on my phone, and as a result of that I was able to get two days battery every day. Basically I can't finish my battery in one day regardless of the usage, which is really good....
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Don't worry about it, in Android free memory is wasted memory. This is how the sistem works... and it works well.

pedmond said:
Don't worry about it, in Android free memory is wasted memory. This is how the sistem works... and it works well.
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That's true to an extent. However when you have apps sitting in the memory using it all up then other apps will be automatically killed and this will cause redraws and extra time loading the app again. This happened on the 2gb version of the G3 which had a lot of launcher redraws because of all the bloatware. It's still best to get rid of bloatware so it doesn't reside in the RAM and cause apps you actually use to get killed.

bishaarcc said:
Can anyone of you download advance task killer from the android market/Google Play. Download and could you check how many memory do you have? When I bought my note, I had only 40% of memory available on my phone, which means about 800 MB, and I couldn't take advantage the rest of the 2+GB memory because phone has couple hundred apps preinstalled... Now I started clearing and un installing all these unnecessary apps and now I have about 1.6 GB memory available on my phone, and as a result of that I was able to get two days battery every day. Basically I can't finish my battery in one day regardless of the usage, which is really good....
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My freshly restarted note 4 shows 2.1 used out of available 2.7. There is an extreme amount of bloat and note specific apps running in TW that cannot be easily killed if at all.
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Antutu widget has the memory cleaner. I use only before games like Galaxy on Fire 2 HD, or if I run a benchmark. But debloated android you should leave alone memory unless you need many ram for specific app. Cleaning memory will consume your battery as CPU work harder reloading everything.
Note 4 debloated has much memory requirments. Android design handles that and it works good debloated. Android RAM is never should be in your mind as it works on PC.

Sublation said:
Antutu widget has the memory cleaner. I use only before games like Galaxy on Fire 2 HD, or if I run a benchmark. But debloated android you should leave alone memory unless you need many ram for specific app. Cleaning memory will consume your battery as CPU work harder reloading everything.
Note 4 debloated has much memory requirments. Android design handles that and it works good debloated. Android RAM is never should be in your mind as it works on PC.
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"Cleaning memory will consume your battery as CPU work harder reloading everything" Actually my experience tells me different than what you're saying. When I bought my note 4 my battery was very bad, I could't use it even one day, but now and after I compulutely removed all bul..... apps my phone gives me Two days normal usage or a day of crazy usage.......

bishaarcc said:
"Cleaning memory will consume your battery as CPU work harder reloading everything" Actually my experience tells me different than what you're saying. When I bought my note 4 my battery was very bad, I could't use it even one day, but now and after I compulutely removed all bul..... apps my phone gives me Two days normal usage or a day of crazy usage.......
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That is so good. I am receiving 24 hour but with 1x mobile here in Phillipines that is good. Very much demand user I am being. Note 3 I only have 12 hour.
But I am referring to cleaning memory on debloated the device. On bloated device cleaning memory is helpful

RAM usage high on low use

Just got a new s6 edge+ and absolutely blown away with the phone as a whole.
Only problem/issue is the RAM usage. I'm a light user for 90% of the day and i have barely any apps installed, yet the RAM is always above 50% even when all apps are closed and i 'clean' the RAM. Average RAM usage is 75%. 3GB?!?
Is this normal to all other users? My thought are that it could be a false reading. Or that it could be dummy using RAM and reassigns it to wherever needs it when any high usage apps run.
I am a UK user and the only update applied was a carrier pushed update. (E.g. i havent done any updates myself or messed around with the phone).
Attached is a screenshot of my kernal and baseband versions for anyone interest.
Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks, Zack.

I see the same on my SM-G9827 phone.It opens around 30 apps in background.If you clean them regularly it kills the battery.Its better to leave them like that.I am getting 6 hours SOT with 3 % left if i leave them as it it.

Ram is ment to be used. To make apps open fast when you need them. A lot of free ram does not make your phone faster AFAIK. So keep those apps running and enjoy a fast phone!
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Joakim_Aronsson said:
Ram is ment to be used. To make apps open fast when you need them. A lot of free ram does not make your phone faster AFAIK. So keep those apps running and enjoy a fast phone!
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I agree.
RAM is meant to be used, you've got 4GB of it. The OS has been optimised to kill any processes that haven't been used if memory is filling up. Forget about saving RAM and focus on enjoying the device.

Why does CM use more battery then stock?

Anyone have any idea why? I get quite a bit worse battery on CM then stock with the same settings with Squid kernel. I'd like to use CM because of more free ram(Not into the whole free ram is wasted ram thing) but battery keeps putting me back to stock.

xtremeed2705 said:
Anyone have any idea why? I get quite a bit worse battery on CM then stock with the same settings with Squid kernel. I'd like to use CM because of more free ram(Not into the whole free ram is wasted ram thing) but battery keeps putting me back to stock.
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Try using power save mode in battery profile.

I see no point of wasting Ram on stock rom.
when you check it shows free 600MB or 90MB, it doesn't mean much.
Battery drains 5-10% in comparison with stock is acceptable.
Using for a whole day remains 10% on stock or 5% on CM 13, you still need to plug into AC source. It means nothing.

If you don't play heavy games you don't have to worry about free ram. With my everyday use including browsing, youtube, gps & light gaming, the phone always have around 600mb free.
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stevedat said:
I see no point of wasting Ram on stock rom.
when you check it shows free 600MB or 90MB, it doesn't mean much.
Battery drains 5-10% in comparison with stock is acceptable.
Using for a whole day remains 10% on stock or 5% on CM 13, you still need to plug into AC source. It means nothing.
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Ehh it's way more then that for me. On stock I can get 8hrs Sot but on CM I get 6 hrs with less standby time
pijes said:
If you don't play heavy games you don't have to worry about free ram. With my everyday use including browsing, youtube, gps & light gaming, the phone always have around 600mb free.
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In my case I do run low on free ram... My browser(Ghostery) even said my phone was low on memory and that it would disable trackers less. Sometimes I check the free ram and it's down to like 200 or so MB. While on CM It's always 600 or above using the exact same Apps/setup.