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I have the Advanced Task Killer app for my phone (new android user lol) and with autokill set to "Crazy" on screen-off.
so most of the time I'll have ~200mb free ram. makes me feel good with big numbers.
but as i run more applications(settings/whatever), more com services start to run. i'm just wondering if there's a list somewhere (searched the net numerous times) about safe com-services to kill.
all in all... how much free ram do you have on average before/after kills?
I always have 90-110M ram
I've got AutoKiller set to aggressive, leaves me with about 100mb free. More than enough, imo.
I read somewhere that using task managers to kill apps ends them in an... improper way? Might want to look into AutoKiller instead ;o
steffe.jst said:
I've got AutoKiller set to aggressive, leaves me with about 100mb free. More than enough, imo.
I read somewhere that using task managers to kill apps ends them in an... improper way? Might want to look into AutoKiller instead ;o
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quite right, they interfere with androids memory management and can in fact actually cause slowdowns. Android like most modern operating systems have pretty good memory management and things that try and take that role over usually just end up causing issues.
I was using aggressive but have moved to strict and find that just as good, the lower you can go the better really.
Free memory is really wasted memory in modern OS's.
If the device constantly has 60MB free ram, i dont really see the real benefit of it having 200MB of ram.. i mean i expect it to perform the same since it is not running out of ram yet.
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If the device constantly has 60MB free ram, i dont really see the real benefit of it having 200MB of ram.. i mean i expect it to perform the same since it is not running out of ram yet.
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Trouble is, if you go too low on this device it becomes very laggy. As I type this I am down to 42mb and the thing is a dog!
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quite right, they interfere with androids memory management and can in fact actually cause slowdowns. Android like most modern operating systems have pretty good memory management and things that try and take that role over usually just end up causing issues.
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What makes me wonder if you let Android do everything on its own (eg. not close applications until more ram is needed), isn't the CPU used a lot more? Some programs aren't just on standby when not used afaik.
I reckon you're doing exactly the opposite. See, unless the app has service like functions it's unlikely to be using any clock cycles when onPause or onStop functions has been called.
On the other hand, if you simply kill an app the entire process of loading parts of app into RAM will have to be executed again, should you decide to start the app up again.
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I reckon you're doing exactly the opposite. See, unless the app has service like functions it's unlikely to be using any clock cycles when onPause or onStop functions has been called.
On the other hand, if you simply kill an app the entire process of loading parts of app into RAM will have to be executed again, should you decide to start the app up again.
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If the app does have services running which are doing things like maintaining a database, syncing with servers, etc. then force closing these background tasks may corrupt databases and cause other problems. The services are probably set up to auto start as well, so they will just come right back and use up battery+cpu reinitializing.
Also, you don't need 200mb of ram free when your phone isn't doing anything. If you do launch something that needs 200mb of ram, then your phone will kill off everything it needs (in this order-> apps without any windows, background windows, background services).
Also, most people will use the same apps (email, phone, etc) throughout the day, and only occasionally launch new apps. If you follow this usage, and you use a task killer, then every time you go into email, the email application has to fully restart which costs you battery, disk acces, etc.
hmm true. i guess i'm just ram hungry. i get about 150~ on average though. i should probably go back to autokiller and put it on a lower threshold.
but damn, my phone drains 30% overnight? it's appalling, anyone has that issue?
Adevem said:
hmm true. i guess i'm just ram hungry. i get about 150~ on average though. i should probably go back to autokiller and put it on a lower threshold.
but damn, my phone drains 30% overnight? it's appalling, anyone has that issue?
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You possibly have something on a high refresh interval, which is waking the phone throughout the night to sync. I was having this problem when I frist installed twitter as it ended up on a 15min refresh. I now have everything on the same refresh cycle, 3hrs I think, and now the phone is pretty much fully charged still in the morning.
impossible, I've for every syncs I know set to off. but I've flashed samset and all that good stuff so I shall monitor over the days!
My average is about 150 too , some times even 200
I have never seen 200MB of free MB. About 150 is the maximum I can get up to right now.
Still, why does the android OS use up so much RAM?
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I have never seen 200MB of free MB. About 150 is the maximum I can get up to right now.
Still, why does the android OS use up so much RAM?
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Because it can.
Aslong as there's enough free ram (determined by values alterable with AutoKiller) Android won't close applications/services for the simple reason that "Free RAM is wasted RAM". The only "benefit" of having tons of free RAM is epeen factor and possibly sometimes if you happen to load up a very RAM heavy game.
Note the "possibly sometimes"
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My average is about 150 too , some times even 200
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My most often available RAM if I leave things untouched and see 20+ programs running is about 80mb. If/when I am using ATK (I use manual mode), I see about 150, but 50+ goes into my UI combo (LauncherPro + Quickdesk + WidgetLocker + Widgets)
Adevem said:
hmm true. i guess i'm just ram hungry. i get about 150~ on average though. i should probably go back to autokiller and put it on a lower threshold.
but damn, my phone drains 30% overnight? it's appalling, anyone has that issue?
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I have the Advanced Task Killer app for my phone (new android user lol) and with autokill set to "Crazy" on screen-off.
so most of the time I'll have ~200mb free ram. makes me feel good with big numbers.
but as i run more applications(settings/whatever), more com services start to run. i'm just wondering if there's a list somewhere (searched the net numerous times) about safe com-services to kill.
all in all... how much free ram do you have on average before/after kills?
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Two biggest things that kill my battery when I'm not "using" the device is sync and ATK. Do not use ATK at night, no matter what, it's essentially wasted. IMO, for typical users there is also more costs associated with autosync during the night than benefits (cost = battery life, and a tiny bit of bandwidth... benefit = having the info available when you turn ur screen on rather than waiting less than 5 mins to get said info).
What ATK essentially does is take the phone out of an idle mode, run the processor to clear up memory. Then, Android does it's thing and opens more programs, recreating the need and a vicious cycle of close-open-close-open where you are using processor that is completely unnecessary. It sounds like you already have your answers and solution from this thread, but I'm just here to reaffirm your belief.
I'm also a bit of a RAM queen, but I only use ATK in the following two scenarios:
1) I'm about to do some heavy tasks (usually gaming, sometimes a GPS tracking)
2) I've just synced and updated to the marketplace (everything under the sun has launched and I just want to see them closed.
In both of these scenarios I actually kill ATK as well, I open it back up and see about 180mb of free RAM (and as I've said, I have about 50mb dedicated to my custom UI).
- Unrooted SHW-m110s, Korean, Galaxy S (waiting for FroYo).
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I'm also a bit of a RAM queen, but I only use ATK in the following two scenarios:
1) I'm about to do some heavy tasks (usually gaming, sometimes a GPS tracking)
2) I've just synced and updated to the marketplace (everything under the sun has launched and I just want to see them closed.
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I'm curious if this helps you at all - if I run ATK to kill tasks before starting a game, the game launches maybe 1-2 seconds quicker, but actually running ATK to kill the tasks takes 5+ seconds. Once I'm inside a game/benchmark, my fps seems to be identical.
Do you see the same thing? If so, why do you use ATK?
326Mb on i9000ugjg9
same with the international version
Adevem said:
I have the Advanced Task Killer app for my phone (new android user lol) and with autokill set to "Crazy" on screen-off.
so most of the time I'll have ~200mb free ram. makes me feel good with big numbers.
but as i run more applications(settings/whatever), more com services start to run. i'm just wondering if there's a list somewhere (searched the net numerous times) about safe com-services to kill.
all in all... how much free ram do you have on average before/after kills?
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AllGamer said:
326Mb on i9000ugjg9
same with the international version
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326mb as reported by atk ?
AllGamer said:
326Mb on i9000ugjg9
same with the international version
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Sure you're not looking at total RAM available? 'Cause that's the number I see when I go into Samsung's Task Manager (X/326MB).
Also jg9? I must've missed something
I am now on 25 hours without a charge and still have 65% battery left. Previously I couldn't make it through the day without hooking up the umbilical cord of life. I used to clear apps regularly with the stock task manager but would start out with 150MB free after boot and by the end of the day could not get better than 80MB free. Everyone was crying memory leaks. These are NOT memory leaks but errant programs that cache behind trhe scenes draining your battery and stealing resources. They are also immune to the stock task killer.
I found these bad bad apps by installing Memory Booster Lite from the market. After getting a 0 applications closed I went into the Task Killer in Memory Booster and found a bunch of apps loaded into memory still! Things like Google + hogging 28 MB of memory! There was Amazon Appstore, Maps, Facebook, Beatiful Widgets, Email, Telenav, Netflix, logsprovider....all immune to the stock task killer and slowly eating memory during the day as they load. I killed all the ones I recognized (no com.XXXX stuff) and then checked back in a few minutes to see what would reload. Google +, Beautiful Widgets, Facebook, Maps, and others would reload. Using the paid version of Titanium backup I froze apps like Google +, Maps, Netflix, and others that I don't use daily. You can use other apps for this like Autostarts. I deleted apps that are not worth my memory and battery power. I also set all syncs to manual and keep the display down as low as I need to. The results were tripling my battery life. I also stay on Wifi as much as possible and as soon as I get off XDA App, Tapatalk or any browser clear it with the stock task killer. I always have about 140 MB free now.
Your mileage may vary. The display is the biggest battery killer so if your a gamer, or spend hours reading, don't expect a lot of improvement from this but you will see some. I hope this helps battery life and memory leak myths for some of you.
The important thing in this forum is to have fun and help others.
I'm not trolling, and you do have great suggestions here. I just wish there were some easy way to get an entire day of full use without having to get an extended battery while using the epic to its full potential. I like autosync, adecently lit screen, and my range of Widgets which I use daily. Too bad I can't go more than 16 hours with everything on. I have tried at one point most of your suggestions, and it did greatly improve battery life. I suggest anyone at least give it a shot and then slowly turn back on the things they must have, like gmail sync or haptic feedback.
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Blankrubber, this is a good place to add on to what I just found. The key is to see what else is running that is immune to the stock task killer. I never knew how much Google + and Maps were killing my battery. I got rid of my extended battery long ago but now I am sill amazed. 29 hours and 52% left. But the key when you say using it fully is limiting display time and intensity. No matter what that is the biggest drain so if you are glued to your phone for over 4 hours it will always be tough to make it last. Phones that used to be just phones could go days without charge. Now they are little computers. Think...laptops only go about 2 hours runtime without a charge and those batteries are a lot bigger.
I use Bloat Freezer myself. It shows whatever is running in the background highlighted in gray. Google+,Maps, the others Kenny mentioned are the usual suspects. Doing what Kenny said will help out for sure. Yes, its annoying we have to do this to extend battery life but some apps are always at work. Memory Booster is pretty good. Viper baked it in a ROM a while back. Its definately worth checking out
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I use Bloat Freezer myself. It shows whatever is running in the background highlighted in gray. Google+,Maps, the others Kenny mentioned are the usual suspects. Doing what Kenny said will help out for sure. Yes, its annoying we have to do this to extend battery life but some apps are always at work. Memory Booster is pretty good. Viper baked it in a ROM a while back. Its definately worth checking out
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Thanks John, hard to keep up on all these apps to help manage apps and memory. Will have to check out Bloat Freezer. Hope there are less steps than Titanium to unfreeze.
I highly recommend Autokiller Memory.
After reading the dev's page and all he found I installed the app and after setting it up, its maintained my memory free of immune apps and battery life us off the hook!
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If something is just sitting in memory why would that have any effect on battery life? It should actually improve your battery life cuz then it just loads the app from memory and not a full re open of the app. Now if your saying that these questionable apps are just running processes then yes that would have an effect on battery as it is just sitting there doing something. But back to the memory side of this. Memory is used in all devices to take some of the load off the processor to make it load faster. It is there for a reason every device would not use memory if it was not efficient at loading apps and saving battery.
But if you only use the app once a week or so why waste those resources or the initial load time. If it sits in memory and another app needs that memory the processor uses more power and battery swapping apps in and out of memory needlessly. My phone is super fast and running 32 hours with 46% left. I can't put up a better argument than those results. Memory swapping is bad on battery it seems.
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kennyglass123 said:
Thanks John, hard to keep up on all these apps to help manage apps and memory. Will have to check out Bloat Freezer. Hope there are less steps than Titanium to unfreeze.
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I button to press to unfreeze with Bloat Freezer....actually 2. You press menu softkey then unfreeze all. The phones baked in apps are in red, running apps highlighted gray, and frozen apps blue. Its really user friendly
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kennyglass123 said:
I am now on 25 hours without a charge and still have 65% battery left. Previously I couldn't make it through the day without hooking up the umbilical cord of life. I used to clear apps regularly with the stock task manager but would start out with 150MB free after boot and by the end of the day could not get better than 80MB free. Everyone was crying memory leaks. These are NOT memory leaks but errant programs that cache behind trhe scenes draining your battery and stealing resources. They are also immune to the stock task killer.
I found these bad bad apps by installing Memory Booster Lite from the market. After getting a 0 applications closed I went into the Task Killer in Memory Booster and found a bunch of apps loaded into memory still! Things like Google + hogging 28 MB of memory! There was Amazon Appstore, Maps, Facebook, Beatiful Widgets, Email, Telenav, Netflix, logsprovider....all immune to the stock task killer and slowly eating memory during the day as they load. I killed all the ones I recognized (no com.XXXX stuff) and then checked back in a few minutes to see what would reload. Google +, Beautiful Widgets, Facebook, Maps, and others would reload. Using the paid version of Titanium backup I froze apps like Google +, Maps, Netflix, and others that I don't use daily. You can use other apps for this like Autostarts. I deleted apps that are not worth my memory and battery power. I also set all syncs to manual and keep the display down as low as I need to. The results were tripling my battery life. I also stay on Wifi as much as possible and as soon as I get off XDA App, Tapatalk or any browser clear it with the stock task killer. I always have about 140 MB free now.
Your mileage may vary. The display is the biggest battery killer so if your a gamer, or spend hours reading, don't expect a lot of improvement from this but you will see some. I hope this helps battery life and memory leak myths for some of you.
The important thing in this forum is to have fun and help others.
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1: you must never actually use your phone at all, if you do then your battery claims are bs
2: you obviously don't understand much about android/linux and how memory functionality works
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Zeinzu said:
1: you must never actually use your phone at all, if you do then your battery claims are bs
2: you obviously don't understand much about android/linux and how memory functionality works
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Whatever dude. Look at my posts count and thanks count. Got this phone a week after it came out in September and never could get better than 16 hours life out of the battery. I do a few simple things as posted and am at 38% with 32 hours. Obviously you are the one without a clue. Troll out of my thread if you have nothing constructive to add. Believe me or not I have nothing to gain by posting this.
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Zeinzu said:
1: you must never actually use your phone at all, if you do then your battery claims are bs
2: you obviously don't understand much about android/linux and how memory functionality works
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I've been around the Android platform for more than 3 years. I've pretty much read all google has shared with us (the Military) for application development and I do agree that there are dormit services that hog up your memory / battery even when your not using the phone.
I agree with this dev and his tool: http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
I think that he nailed it when he found out how did Android manage memory and the determination it takes in order to "kill" what you don't use.
Now... Do you care to share what you know about the subject that we don't, in stead of just coming bashing and leaving?
This is a forum, we are more than open to debates here.
megabiteg said:
I've been around the Android platform for more than 3 years. I've pretty much read all google has shared with us (the Military) for application development and I do agree that there are dormit services that hog up your memory / battery even when your not using the phone.
I agree with this dev and his tool: http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
I think that he nailed it when he found out how did Android manage memory and the determination it takes in order to "kill" what you don't use.
Now... Do you care to share what you know about that we don't, in stead of just coming bashing and leaving?
This is a forum, we are more than open to debates here.
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the v6supercharger fixed these issues for me. also if you use go launcher, there is a tab in the app drawer of running apps which you can close with ease!
megabiteg said:
I highly recommend Autokiller Memory.
After reading the dev's page and all he found I installed the app and after setting it up, its maintained my memory free of immune apps and battery life us off the hook!
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that's the app i use...i only kill the apps that don't close properly after i use them and frozen some services with titanium...i have amazing battery life (eco5 btw, gingerbread is not stable enough for me)
Tw wats ur onscreen time?? Would u post some screenshots? The longest battery I ever had was like 15 hours and 4 hours of onscreen time with around 10% left
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omair2005 said:
the v6supercharger fixed these issues for me. also if you use go launcher, there is a tab in the app drawer of running apps which you can close with ease!
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+1 for V6, im usually at 250mb free ram consistently, while closing NOT A DAMN THING
For that basher out there, I am sorry if I don't spend hours watching porn on my phone for you to really judge battery life but here is the pic:
And I may not be able to code Android but I am familiar in C++ and CPU usage and how much you lose by not having available memory to swap programs with.
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the v6supercharger fixed these issues for me. also if you use go launcher, there is a tab in the app drawer of running apps which you can close with ease!
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Nice. That was my issue though is that some of these memory/battery killers don't show up in the launcher's task killers. Google + and Maps never show up and get stopped and continue to kill the battery getting data behind the scenes because Google wrote them in that way. It is important to at least check if you have bad battery life what else is running with a good task killer like Memory Booster Lite.
i think the best solution for battery life is autokiller, v6 script and titanium..the stock gingerbread task manager aka (the running services in settings) isn't that great...when i was on eg22, i noticed it displayed the wrong amount of ram left and didn't display every single app running in the background..autokiller is able to see every single app running in the background but never kill the programs with (com.google and android.process)...I only kills apps i use like engadget and pulse..when u exit these with back button, they always stay in the background and use autokiller to make sure it's completely killed...never set any task killer to autokill apps, that will drain your battery faster...and they are some annoying 3rd party apps that always run in the background since they are not coded well (imo)..for example, i froze the script manager with titanium after i implemented the v6 script because it kept restarting itself all the time..i suggest people follow RandomKing's tutorial on how to extend battery life, it helped a lot..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106524...i constantly have 150 to 200 ram free with im not running any apps..im on eco5 aosp rom with eco5 (eg22 and eh06 are not stable enough for me)
To be honest, I think you're overestimating the effect these task killers are having on your phone.
Your graph looks very similar to mine when I'm using it moderately, and I haven't installed any task killers. (And, yes, I've got the same Maps, Google+, etc apps on my phone). The only changes I've made are:
- Turning my screen brightness all the way down.
- Having very few non-push syncs.
Today I'll be using my phone a lot as a camera, but I'll try to remember to leave it off the charger one day this week so that I have a power graph that lasts longer than 18 hours.
So i am curious to know does any utility working on Note, that improves performance of Note.
I have installed
1.Set CPU - really i dont find any markable improvement
2.Auto starts - It stops loading some SF on starts definitely, but what? does it has any outcome?
3.RAM manager - My Note have MAY B slight more free RAM, but again does it improve performance?
Really telling i feel all above procedure giving me placebo effect not more than this.
B'coz when i compare it with stock, hardly i can feel difference.
Sure these have marked effect on low capacity RAM devise. when there is consumption of RAM > 80 always remain. But In case of Note, I think it is useless.
Share your review please.
dr.ketan said:
So i am curious to know does any utility working on Note, that improves performance of Note.
I have installed
1.Set CPU - really i dont find any markable improvement
2.Auto starts - It stops loading some SF on starts definitely, but what? does it has any outcome?
3.RAM manager - My Note have MAY B slight more free RAM, but again does it improve performance?
Really telling i feel all above procedure giving me placebo effect not more than this.
B'coz when i compare it with stock, hardly i can feel difference.
Sure these have marked effect on low capacity RAM devise. when there is consumption of RAM > 80 always remain. But In case of Note, I think it is useless.
Share your review please.
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Don't use SetCPU. Your phone will not go to Deep Sleep if you use that app.
Try system tuner pro.
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2.Auto starts - It stops loading some SF on starts definitely, but what? does it has any outcome?
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Seriously you don't see the advantage of this?
Not just giving you RAM which benefits are vague. Depending on your use. When the blocked app is not is loaded.
As well as you stop a program from loading, which might ask for sync, wake up the device etc.
Its an alternative to Tits backup Freeze. Except you still can call up on the program with the allowed actions.
I agree it stops loading blocked application, it may released some RAM too. But what i am asking is after releasing of that RAM, does it improves performance?
b'coz Note have alwyas remain 200-300 RAM free, if it is 300-350MB then does it have any outcome? really I dont see.
dr.ketan said:
I agree it stops loading blocked application, it may released some RAM too. But what i am asking is after releasing of that RAM, does it improves performance?
b'coz Note have alwyas remain 200-300 RAM free, if it is 300-350MB then does it have any outcome? really I dont see.
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Did you even read what I wrote .
It stops the program, like the tits freeze. the program won't run.
like for example you stop with this the samsung auto update.
Means it will stop syncing. Eating your battery.
Again saying it. Its like a safer way to freeze an app...
With Autostart you reach better battery stats and lower RAM usage due to blocking/freezing the apps.
They won't start at the beginning and if they aren't loaded, they aren't in the RAM and then you have low RAM usage.
I don't use Set CPU, because the Note is fast enough and doesn't need any overclocking or undervolting.
I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro to see how the stats of my battery are, i can see the full time and when it goes to deep sleep.
Livewings said:
Don't use SetCPU. Your phone will not go to Deep Sleep if you use that app.
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And 'CPU MASTER PRO' has this issue?
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No problem here with deep sleep and setcpu.
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With my last rooted phone, I diligently went through every single app that started up without my say-so. You can disable every event they respond to. It is a lot of work, but satisfying to the OCD child inside.
There were dozens, all popping up any time they wanted and eating CPU cycles merrily. I did get more RAM and battery doing that. I will do the same when I root this mother.
Setcpu is working beautifully. No issues with deep sleep whatsoever.
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It's true, setcpu working perfectly
I use Tegrak Overclock instead of setCPU because it allows me to overclock GPU as well. Overclocking gives me better experience in gaming and smoother interface.
Autostarts gives me better boot times and gives me control over apps. I like apps to run when I want them to run. Why would I need my car fuel management app to run in the background most of the time of I use it once a week? What kind of a dimwit had that idea? It has nothing to do with freezing apps (except that they don't run at boot in both cases).
RAM manager is my favourite snake oil. According to nearly all the experts around it does absolutely nothing except killing my battery. Somehow I like the way it's been kiling my battery for last 2 months and I'll leave it that way. I don't care about the mechanics of it - simply put since I've installed it I experience less laggy moments in UI (ie. when i press my back button 78906 times to go back through several apps) and the effect of my Note getting sluggish after a day of use is gone.
By the way, I've been wondering - if the famous Android memory management is so perfect - why is it being tweaked so much in so many custom ROMs? And this is what RAM manager really is - set of tweaks packaged in a convenient app, not a task killer.
mfractal said:
Setcpu is working beautifully. No issues with deep sleep whatsoever.
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I remember using SetCPU and the battery dropped from 100% to 50% within half an hour.
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I remember using SetCPU and the battery dropped from 100% to 50% within half an hour.
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then it's YOUR isolated case where you have done something wrong as it working great for 99.99% of people.
The kind of statements you make can confuse new users and prevent them from using a perfectly usable and useful program.
mfractal said:
then it's YOUR isolated case where you have done something wrong as it working great for 99.99% of people.
The kind of statements you make can confuse new users and prevent them from using a perfectly usable and useful program.
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Yet you do the same by throwing out 99.99%... 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Lol... I've had instances where SetCPU has crushed my phones battery...3 diff phones. So does that make it 99.98% now?
I use Autostarts religiously. Just becareful disabling system apps.
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Yet you do the same by throwing out 99.99%... 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Lol... I've had instances where SetCPU has crushed my phones battery...3 diff phones. So does that make it 99.98% now?
I use Autostarts religiously. Just becareful disabling system apps.
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I won't enter this semantics argument with you or anyone else. You know exactly what i meant.
The point was, don't bash a perfectly useful app when YOU'RE the one to be blamed.
Livewings said:
I remember using SetCPU and the battery dropped from 100% to 50% within half an hour.
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But this is the very nature of overclocking. When it goes wrong it goes wrong - reboot or pull the battery and choose some other parameters. If it's not OK with you don't do it. Why blame an app which is simply a tool (just one of many, I had the same problem with Tegrak several times)???
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I won't enter this semantics argument with you or anyone else. You know exactly what i meant.
The point was, don't bash a perfectly useful app when YOU'RE the one to be blamed.
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Mmk.. Nice blinders
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Hey guys, what's normal ram usage for you?
Cause to me, what I'm getting seems higher than it should be.
I'm seeing well in excess of a gigabytes used when I'm not doing anything on it, even after I first restart, there's around a gig used. I removed apps I don't use, I'm running the latest release of PACrom, here's a screenshot I just took.
http://imgur.com/w5KGKJF
Also battery usage always seems high, could that be related possibly?
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1.3Gig is usually normal for touchwiz but for AOSP not try changing the Rom and see as for the battery check what apps are draining it
Yeah, that's normal.Mine is using 1 gib and I don't have any apps running.
Blackwolf10 said:
1.3Gig is usually normal for touchwiz but for AOSP not try changing the Rom and see as for the battery check what apps are draining it
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My run is AOSP based, and according to the settings, the screen uses most of it.
But I rarely have the brightness up high, and often battery widget says I'm using in excess of 1300mah D:
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I'm using stock ROM with Deodexed and Zipaligned apps, My RAM is 0.8GB when no apps is opened, and it goes to 1GB when few apps are opened
That is NOT NORMAL AT ALL... Using aosp based Roms like pacman and slim bean I have an average of 400mb used and like 1.4 free... I don't think I've ever passed 800mb running an aosp ROM or any ROM for a matter a fact... Check to male sure it doesn't count cached apps cause that takes up around a gig sometimes...
..... its normal if you have some widget running....
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There is no reason to care about ram usage on a Linux system.
In Linux, unused ram is wasted ram.
Using all your ram doesn't mean no more ram is available. It means that the system is storing everything its done recently in ram so its more quickly accessed if you try to use it again. If your ram is full and you need to do something else the system will effectively and efficiently push the lowest priority task out of ram to free up more for the new task.
Using all your ram does NOT slow the system down. It is not like Windows where freeing up ram makes everything run faster.
All this monitoring ram is pointless in a Linux based OS.
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Skipjacks said:
There is no reason to care about ram usage on a Linux system.
In Linux, unused ram is wasted ram.
Using all your ram doesn't mean no more ram is available. It means that the system is storing everything its done recently in ram so its more quickly accessed if you try to use it again. If your ram is full and you need to do something else the system will effectively and efficiently push the lowest priority task out of ram to free up more for the new task.
Using all your ram does NOT slow the system down. It is not like Windows where freeing up ram makes everything run faster.
All this monitoring ram is pointless in a Linux based OS.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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I fully agree with your clear explanations but in my case when I reach low memory level like 100 Mg the camera doesn't fully start (black window).
I am forced to reboot or clean as well.
I feel something is weird in this phone memory managment. (GT9500 model for me)
Skipjacks said:
There is no reason to care about ram usage on a Linux system.
In Linux, unused ram is wasted ram.
Using all your ram doesn't mean no more ram is available. It means that the system is storing everything its done recently in ram so its more quickly accessed if you try to use it again. If your ram is full and you need to do something else the system will effectively and efficiently push the lowest priority task out of ram to free up more for the new task.
Using all your ram does NOT slow the system down. It is not like Windows where freeing up ram makes everything run faster.
All this monitoring ram is pointless in a Linux based OS.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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Best answer ive seen c:
This takes me to my other question of could this be affecting battery life ?
Ive had the battery go from 100% down to 85% in a space of 20 minutes, with brightness on auto, and only using one app (LINE) :c
I remembered seeing other peoples comments on using only a few hundred meg of ram, and also seeing compliments on the battery life of the rom (PACrom) around those same posts, So im trying to figure out how to prolong my battery life as its pretty important to me, I dont really get a chance to charge throughout the day D:
CountParadox said:
Best answer ive seen c:
This takes me to my other question of could this be affecting battery life ?
Ive had the battery go from 100% down to 85% in a space of 20 minutes, with brightness on auto, and only using one app (LINE) :c
I remembered seeing other peoples comments on using only a few hundred meg of ram, and also seeing compliments on the battery life of the rom (PACrom) around those same posts, So im trying to figure out how to prolong my battery life as its pretty important to me, I dont really get a chance to charge throughout the day D:
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Your question has nothing to see about this thread subject, so be kind to REpost direct to q&A. iT will be a better audience able to quickly answer.
lolo9393 said:
Your question has nothing to see about this thread subject, so be kind to REpost direct to q&A. iT will be a better audience able to quickly answer.
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Will do!
Just got a new s6 edge+ and absolutely blown away with the phone as a whole.
Only problem/issue is the RAM usage. I'm a light user for 90% of the day and i have barely any apps installed, yet the RAM is always above 50% even when all apps are closed and i 'clean' the RAM. Average RAM usage is 75%. 3GB?!?
Is this normal to all other users? My thought are that it could be a false reading. Or that it could be dummy using RAM and reassigns it to wherever needs it when any high usage apps run.
I am a UK user and the only update applied was a carrier pushed update. (E.g. i havent done any updates myself or messed around with the phone).
Attached is a screenshot of my kernal and baseband versions for anyone interest.
Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks, Zack.
I see the same on my SM-G9827 phone.It opens around 30 apps in background.If you clean them regularly it kills the battery.Its better to leave them like that.I am getting 6 hours SOT with 3 % left if i leave them as it it.
Ram is ment to be used. To make apps open fast when you need them. A lot of free ram does not make your phone faster AFAIK. So keep those apps running and enjoy a fast phone!
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Joakim_Aronsson said:
Ram is ment to be used. To make apps open fast when you need them. A lot of free ram does not make your phone faster AFAIK. So keep those apps running and enjoy a fast phone!
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I agree.
RAM is meant to be used, you've got 4GB of it. The OS has been optimised to kill any processes that haven't been used if memory is filling up. Forget about saving RAM and focus on enjoying the device.