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Stay Stock Or Custom Rom?

Im getting a Nexus 7 for christmas and im wondering if i decide to root the nexus 7 is it possible to go back to stock as its not amobile phone i cant think it would be to hard because i love the stock jelly bean 4.2 system but im wanting paranoid rom so i can get table ui on the nexus 7 but if i dont like it can i just go back to the stcok jelly bean rom?? (nexus 7 has been bought from offical google website)
Thanks Guys
George

Why would you not like it...its stock plus so many more options.
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Yes.
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dparrothead1 said:
Yes.
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out

Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35472344#post35472344

dannymassacre said:
Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
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This doesn't even matter, all the devs have the official ota update before it comes out due to Google dropping the source before they actually push it out.
Way better to root, you'll have the updates faster that way.
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IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out

While I personally prefer stock (with modifications of course) on my N7, it is trivial to revert these devices back to stock, or any other ROM, if you want to. You don't even need to revert and upgrade - you could just download the latest FULL image and flash your device that way, skipping the update step altogether.
But if updates are your only concern, I imagine most of the ROM developers would incorporate the new version into their ROMs very soon after the OTA drops.

BrianDigital said:
IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
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This.
Even if you don't run a custom rom initially, if the bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom recovery and rom later. The problem is that if you unlock all the internal storage gets wiped which is not the end of the world if you backup first but it's still a minor inconvenience.
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paranoid is great, but depends what you like. I love it fit the tablet interface and customization options. stock 4.2 had a lot of the same customization built in, so it's awesome as well.
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To me, its custom ROM or bust.
-Sent from Marino's Nexus 7-

Multi ROM
you may want to use Multi ROM.
Root your stock ROM.
Install Custom Recovery to install Multi ROM.
After installing Multi ROM, you may now install other or more ROMs inside.
Also, you have the option to auto-boot from stock ROM or from other ROM.
With that, you may access your stock ROM without removing your custom ROMs and vice versa.
Goodluck!

I unlocked and rooted my nexus 7 so that I could use otg cable---> a flash drive … I have extra storage now. Just download an app called stick mount an your all set...

Rooting should be the first thing you should do. As others said you can keep it stock if you want. Only difference is you get to install apps like titanium backup and file managers like root explorer. You also will have a custom recovery so you can backup your latest STABLE and smooth ROM so you can revert back if you ever run into trouble like the 4.2 OTA debacle.
As far as any maintenance and fixing issues... having root makes it a breeze as factory resets just mean in 10 minutes you are back in businesses, you just need redo your screens.

I took the plunge and after rooting I installed this: [EXPERIMENTAL] MultiROM v3
Now I'm running stock along with a few other ROMS, including Ubuntu.

Custom ROM/recovery/... vs Stock

Hey there, I have been flashing my HTC Desire HD for a long time with different ROMs. I found it kinda annoying to always check certain websites for new updates, manually download and flash them just to find out that half of the stuff was buggy.
Now I got the Nexus 4. I loved the idea of having fast OTA updates. But now I want to flash a new kernel.. which means I got to install a custom recovery. But then OTA will not work anymore.
So I wonder:
Should I stay with
CWM + Stock ROM + Custom Kernel (no OTA update but no problem with buggy custom ROMs)
CWM + Custom ROM + Custom Kernel
Everything stock
Cyanogenmod is nice but for me it doesn't have any big advantages over stock 4.2 ? So I really wonder what you guys would recommend? What are your reasons to do a "certain setup" ?
Thanks

You don't need a custom recovery to flash a kernel.
It can be flashed with fastboot leaving everything else stock.
You still wouldn't be able to install the OTA without flashing the stock kernel again though.

Oh crap.. so as soon as I change ANYTHING... no OTA updates anymore
Hmm... I guess I will stay with custom kernel + flashing stock ROM then :/ Is there any way to automatically check for updates tho?
Thanks

zakazak said:
Oh crap.. so as soon as I change ANYTHING... no OTA updates anymore
Hmm... I guess I will stay with custom kernel + flashing stock ROM then :/ Is there any way to automatically check for updates tho?
Thanks
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Yeah you will get the notification and it will try to install but it will fail and reboot if you aren't 100% stock.
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Go with TWRP instead of cwm
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Go with TWRP instead of cwm
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+1, TWRP is great :highfive:

TWRP is the way to go!

But then I have another problem (well I already have it but..):
I would like to use ROMmanager.. after all it might be able to check for rom updates & flash them "automatically" (stock + custom?). I am not sure if it could also check for kernel updates?
Anyway, it seems to work only with CWM ? Altough it doesn't seem the already installed CWM on my Nexus 4 :S

Anyone?

I would never use ROM manager. Not a good program. Use a custom recovery, and if you want lots of customisation then I would recommend AOKP Rom as it is just as fast and stable as the stock ROM but with a whole host of customisation options.
Beauty of this phone is that you can go back to complete bone stock with no issues, I did, but missed all the customisation and put AOKP back on lol.

alright I uninstalled it. I just hoped for some "app" which could look for all kind of "custom" updates and install them automatically (kernerl,rom,...)

If you're interested in CM, I think delta CM will allow you download only the changes made to the project.
Also, why do people say to use TWRP instead of the more tried and true CWM? It seems to have a lot of sex appeal to some recently, and there doesn't seem to be a clear cut answer. Is there added functionality?

About rooting (stock rom)

Hey, I'm about to get my N4 next week and I wanted to ask... If I root my phone and use a custom kernel (Franco/AK/Faux etc...) will i still get OTA updates from the stock rom? will the root/custom kernel cause problems with those updates? Cause I wanna use some apps that require root but I want to be able to update with android 4.4 somewhere in the near future
thanks.

You will get the updates but you won't be able to update right away.
You got some options:
1.Unroot, Flash stoch recovery and kernel and then update.
3.Sideload the update and re-root.
Maybe there are other methods that I don't know off but well, this is all I got.
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Go ahead and do it. You can always revert to stock by flashing the stock kernel during the time of updates. You may install a custom ROM as well. Moving from one ROM to another or stock barely takes time and you wouldn't lose any personal data, you can backup everything necessary in a few mins.
The nexus 4 is a Dev friendly device, so feel free to enjoy the nexus by flashing your fav kernel or rom's. Everything will be simple enough once you give it a try.
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Who's Going Back to Stock for KitKat?

Just wondering who is planning to go back to stock for KitKat?

When is the release date? the 28th or is it a rumor

I am. Of course the factory images will probably be released before OTA so I will flash them instead
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When is the release date? the 28th or is it a rumor
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No one knows for sure = rumor

I am
I'm on PA now, but will probably go back to stock when 4.4 arrives. As I heard over at ParanoidAndroid Community on G+ on 4.4 they're going to make it all over again, so it's going to take time.
Waited for PA 4.3, not going to wait again for 4.4

I am currently back on stock in anticipation of that sweet chocolatey crunch.

I can use AOSP or stock as long as Xposed Framework is working for it too.

After what happened with 4.3 update -_- I am going to wait for couple days before jumping to Kit Kat. Probably will wait for PA Kit Kat rom.
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I literally just flashed back to stock today. However, I am considering flashing another rom because I keep losing data on stock. I can always flash the system image for KitKat when it's released.
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I m already on stock. Will I get the OTA if iam on a rooted stock ROM?
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I'll go back to stock just to have the vanilla experience for awhile before jumping on a rom.

always been on stock rom rooted and twrp installed phone always takes ota updates just fine ......never seen any point flashing custom rom on this phone as phone is pretty cool as is ...only issue i have with the nexus 4 is that they knocked 100 off price 3 weeks after i purchased haha but love this phone

Will probably flash back to stock and then restore my current ROM as a second rom.

I will flash factory images and start all over with a fresh new phone. Hopefully it still has root. I wanna stick with stock for awhile now sick of various bugs here and there. For example, on cm my GPS takes hours to lock and even when it locks it isn't precise but on PA, GPS works just fine. The phone also lags here and there like when I initially turn it on from sleep and try to unlock or pull notification bar down. For me stock has always been faster than custom ROMs even though they have some really useful features
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I just got a new nexus 7 2013. So I left that stock and lucky me on my Nexus 4 started getting base band unknown on anything but stock JWR rooted. So clean wiped and flashed stock. I had a Neo kernel system folder with scripts I couldn't delete. Feel much better now, couldn't say if I had ever clean wiped since getting the phone.
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I will flash factory images.. I don't want to wait the OTA..

Already stock except for the kernel. Just a quick 'fastboot flash boot boot.img' of the stock 4.3 kernel and I'll be all set for OTA or Factory Images (though Factory Images would mean I don't even need to waste time reflashing stock 4.3 kernel.)
Probably going to use default stock launcher for awhile depending on the changes instead of Smart Launcher. Really like the rumors/previews we've seen of it so far. Especially since I am so embedded with Google Now. The left panel swipe would be awesome I think.

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Just wondering who is planning to go back to stock for KitKat?
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I do absolut! I'm tired of custom ROMs with full bug and error. Just today I m back to stock. I've only root.

Ümit said:
I do absolut! I'm tired of custom ROMs with full bug and error. Just today I m back to stock. I've only root.
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Exactly that
That solved nearly all of my problem's
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I would but I can't live without franko kernel or PIE, so I'll wait for Pa update
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[Q] How do I get OTA with a custom rom/kernel?

I have the liquid smooth custom ROM (which installed a custom kernel) on my nexus 4 but now I have the erge to go back to OTA and stock..... I looked at the other threads and none gave me a good explanation on how to do so. I am pretty much done with custom ROMs so please help me.
P.S My nexus 4 is rooted with unlocked bootloader... Also I'm not exactly an expert with all things android.

You don't get OTA updates with a custom ROM/kernel unless the developer provides them. If you want to return to stock just download the factory images from here:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occam
And flash them. You will lose all your data!!! Then you'll get the latest OTA at first boot/internet connection required/.
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