Hey, I'm about to get my N4 next week and I wanted to ask... If I root my phone and use a custom kernel (Franco/AK/Faux etc...) will i still get OTA updates from the stock rom? will the root/custom kernel cause problems with those updates? Cause I wanna use some apps that require root but I want to be able to update with android 4.4 somewhere in the near future
thanks.
You will get the updates but you won't be able to update right away.
You got some options:
1.Unroot, Flash stoch recovery and kernel and then update.
3.Sideload the update and re-root.
Maybe there are other methods that I don't know off but well, this is all I got.
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Go ahead and do it. You can always revert to stock by flashing the stock kernel during the time of updates. You may install a custom ROM as well. Moving from one ROM to another or stock barely takes time and you wouldn't lose any personal data, you can backup everything necessary in a few mins.
The nexus 4 is a Dev friendly device, so feel free to enjoy the nexus by flashing your fav kernel or rom's. Everything will be simple enough once you give it a try.
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So I'm thinking about rooting my Nexus S and keeping the stock rom, now my question is if I do root will I not receive the OTA update for ICS or will I still get it?
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A little reading wouldn't have hurt............
Anyways, if you do not modify anything in /system then you should be fine. I wouldn't ever be worried about receiving an ota anyways. Chances are someone will post the full rom here before your phone ever recieves the ota notification.
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Thanks for the fast reply, I new I was going to get hit with the not reading part, but rooting was something I thought of on an impulse and I did as much reading as I could before I got into work so I thought I would ask for a quick answer. Now that I have the answer I have a lot more reading to do before I even try to root.
Thank you again for the answer.
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So I'm thinking about rooting my Nexus S and keeping the stock rom, now my question is if I do root will I not receive the OTA update for ICS or will I still get it?
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You WILL get the OTA update
Guys sorry if this a noob question. But I just recently rooted as well .
I'm running stock rom and francos kernel. Will stock rom and diff kernel mess up if you accept ota?
I'm also looking at trying diff kernels like trinity teuv.
I know I have to wipe cache and dalvik when flashing another kernel however some state to reflash the rom as well. I'm on stock so nothing to really reflash . What steps should I take to make sure kernels don't conflict.
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I've had wifi driver issues when flashing kernel outside of rom flash also, sometimes it works fine, other times I get the wifi error. Do not update ota if your using a custom kernel and recovery, you must be 100% stock to do so. There are stock flashable roms however, google peter Alfonso, his stuff is in rom manager as well. Also bugless beast is a stock based rom with many improvements, very stable also. Perhaps check it out.
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I've had wifi driver issues when flashing kernel outside of rom flash also, sometimes it works fine, other times I get the wifi error. Do not update ota if your using a custom kernel and recovery, you must be 100% stock to do so. There are stock flashable roms however, google peter Alfonso, his stuff is in rom manager as well. Also bugless beast is a stock based rom with many improvements, very stable also. Perhaps check it out.
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Always disable wifi before flashing a rom. In fact putting your device into airplane mode is the safest bet.
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I'm not saying that's not good advice but I have done both and still had the error, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt.
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If you're rooted, most likely you will not get the OTA notification. That's not a big deal. When ICS hits, it's going to hit here just as quick if not quicker. You'll most likely get an error if you try to flash an official OTA on a rooted device, has to be stock.
Btw, Oxygen is my ROM of choice, so I await his ICS 4.0 ROM anyway. Heck with the OTA.
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So I rooted today, before I rooted I was on 2.3.7 after I rooted I was on 2.3.4 and it told me there was an update, so I took the update the screen went black showed the picture of the Android with a ! Next to it, after about an hour I pulled the batter and when I booted back I was still on 2.3.4 and it no longer says I have an update.
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Manually update, look in rom manager under peter Alfonso for 2.37
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Im getting a Nexus 7 for christmas and im wondering if i decide to root the nexus 7 is it possible to go back to stock as its not amobile phone i cant think it would be to hard because i love the stock jelly bean 4.2 system but im wanting paranoid rom so i can get table ui on the nexus 7 but if i dont like it can i just go back to the stcok jelly bean rom?? (nexus 7 has been bought from offical google website)
Thanks Guys
George
Why would you not like it...its stock plus so many more options.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35472344#post35472344
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
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This doesn't even matter, all the devs have the official ota update before it comes out due to Google dropping the source before they actually push it out.
Way better to root, you'll have the updates faster that way.
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IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
While I personally prefer stock (with modifications of course) on my N7, it is trivial to revert these devices back to stock, or any other ROM, if you want to. You don't even need to revert and upgrade - you could just download the latest FULL image and flash your device that way, skipping the update step altogether.
But if updates are your only concern, I imagine most of the ROM developers would incorporate the new version into their ROMs very soon after the OTA drops.
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IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
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This.
Even if you don't run a custom rom initially, if the bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom recovery and rom later. The problem is that if you unlock all the internal storage gets wiped which is not the end of the world if you backup first but it's still a minor inconvenience.
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paranoid is great, but depends what you like. I love it fit the tablet interface and customization options. stock 4.2 had a lot of the same customization built in, so it's awesome as well.
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To me, its custom ROM or bust.
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Multi ROM
you may want to use Multi ROM.
Root your stock ROM.
Install Custom Recovery to install Multi ROM.
After installing Multi ROM, you may now install other or more ROMs inside.
Also, you have the option to auto-boot from stock ROM or from other ROM.
With that, you may access your stock ROM without removing your custom ROMs and vice versa.
Goodluck!
I unlocked and rooted my nexus 7 so that I could use otg cable---> a flash drive … I have extra storage now. Just download an app called stick mount an your all set...
Rooting should be the first thing you should do. As others said you can keep it stock if you want. Only difference is you get to install apps like titanium backup and file managers like root explorer. You also will have a custom recovery so you can backup your latest STABLE and smooth ROM so you can revert back if you ever run into trouble like the 4.2 OTA debacle.
As far as any maintenance and fixing issues... having root makes it a breeze as factory resets just mean in 10 minutes you are back in businesses, you just need redo your screens.
I took the plunge and after rooting I installed this: [EXPERIMENTAL] MultiROM v3
Now I'm running stock along with a few other ROMS, including Ubuntu.
Hello,
Being new to the Nexus series I am curious to know how things work with OTA. I never got those one that SGSII. So I've looked through a few threads and I do not see a clear answer to the question of "do you lose root after OTA update? Assuming your stock rooted nothing else changed. No custom recovery. If you do lose root. How do you get it back? Can you just use one of the toolkits to fix it? Do you have to wait until the devs figure out HOW to root this particular version again? Again someone without a custom recovery just a stock rooted phone. Thanks for your help. I'm just debating in staying stock without a recovery. I tried several roms and now I'm back to stock and I kinda like it....
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jcnbama said:
Hello,
Being new to the Nexus series I am curious to know how things work with OTA. I never got those one that SGSII. So I've looked through a few threads and I do not see a clear answer to the question of "do you lose root after OTA update? Assuming your stock rooted nothing else changed. No custom recovery. If you do lose root. How do you get it back? Can you just use one of the toolkits to fix it? Do you have to wait until the devs figure out HOW to root this particular version again? Again someone without a custom recovery just a stock rooted phone. Thanks for your help. I'm just debating in staying stock without a recovery. I tried several roms and now I'm back to stock and I kinda like it....
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If you have stock and a custom recovery then your custom recovery might be able to keep root for you. Alternatively you could try OTA rootkeeper but that is not guaranteed to work. I was rooted stock with a custom recovery when I received the 4.2.2 update and it installed fine through my recovery but after that I lost root and my custom recovery.
You can use voodo root keeper from play store, it saves root and can be restored after update. It has worked every time I have used it :thumbup:
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Gigabitex2 said:
You can use voodo root keeper from play store, it saves root and can be restored after update. It has worked every time I have used it :thumbup:
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Great! That seems easy lol. I guess that works across multiple Android versions?
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It has worked on my nexus7 from version 4.1 to 4.2.2 and on my n4 I've used it for 4.2, 4.2.1 and 4.2.2. Just remember to save root/ unroot before update and restore after you receive ota. Hopefully it will work for keylime but only time will tell.
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After rooting this device, will I still be able get the regular official updates from Google automatically? And if I get an update, will it remove the root and I have to root again?
If I install a custom ROM, can I be able to come back to official ROM?
Are there any tweaked version of the official camera app and what is the best camera app for nexus 4?
Thanks for your help
S
You have to have the stock recovery to receive official updates, but when you root you install a custom recovery and therefore will not receive official updates. The answer to the second question is just that you won't get any official updates until you uninstall root and flash the factory IMG. And yes you can easily flash back to stock after installing a custom ROM but make sure to back up your data as it will all be wiped. The last question I don't know the answer to. I like the stock camera and its simplicity, but if you want something more "professional" I would suggest looking in the play store.
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aanonymoushuman said:
You have to have the stock recovery to receive official updates, but when you root you install a custom recovery and therefore will not receive official updates.
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I believe that you can still recieve an ota if you have a custom recovery installed. It will overwrite it though.
Read here for more info about ota info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
good morning -- just like you to know the beauty of this forum is the ability to find all the answers to your questions by searching. First off updates do not exactly come once a week but they will with custom roms. As well any update that Google puts out you will easily be able to flash here.
There are ways to maintain root in most cases especially with using SuperSu I believe. I am not 100% on that but I have read of this in passing. Its just easier to me to flash the updated rooted version
Tweaked versions of the may be found in the apps section but again a search would of told you so.
Basically what I am saying is enjoy your time here but think of it like this what ever question you may think you have has been asked 100x before so just take some time look it up and gain some knowledge about android, rooting and N4 :good:
sany said:
After rooting this device, will I still be able get the regular official updates from Google automatically? And if I get an update, will it remove the root and I have to root again?
If I install a custom ROM, can I be able to come back to official ROM?
Are there any tweaked version of the official camera app and what is the best camera app for nexus 4?
Thanks for your help
S
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aanonymoushuman said:
You have to have the stock recovery to receive official updates, but when you root you install a custom recovery and therefore will not receive official updates. The answer to the second question is just that you won't get any official updates until you uninstall root and flash the factory IMG. And yes you can easily flash back to stock after installing a custom ROM but make sure to back up your data as it will all be wiped. The last question I don't know the answer to. I like the stock camera and its simplicity, but if you want something more "professional" I would suggest looking in the play store.
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chromium96 said:
I believe that you can still recieve an ota if you have a custom recovery installed. It will overwrite it though.
Read here for more info about ota info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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You can be on Stock Rom with No Mods Unlocked Rooted with a Custom Recovery and you will get the ota update and it will install fine.
The ota update link will be posted here before you get on your device so it's good to have a custom recovery so you can just flash it. It will also protect you from losing root and your custom recovery
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Thanks all for the responses.
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I have the liquid smooth custom ROM (which installed a custom kernel) on my nexus 4 but now I have the erge to go back to OTA and stock..... I looked at the other threads and none gave me a good explanation on how to do so. I am pretty much done with custom ROMs so please help me.
P.S My nexus 4 is rooted with unlocked bootloader... Also I'm not exactly an expert with all things android.
You don't get OTA updates with a custom ROM/kernel unless the developer provides them. If you want to return to stock just download the factory images from here:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occam
And flash them. You will lose all your data!!! Then you'll get the latest OTA at first boot/internet connection required/.
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